Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 191. (Read 73754 times)
^^^ Since the US is the cause of the war through the 2014 Ukraine coup, and the gigantic amount of funding, the US first, by backing out of Ukraine in every way, and by starting to repay Russia.
This war is really affecting the civilians heavily. Sometimes these world leaders engage in power tussle at the detriment of their citizens. My advice is for the rest of the world's leaders outside Ukraine and Russia to try and make peace between the two rival countries.
That's easy, Russia has all the keys to do that, They just need to retreat back to Russia and pay for the war crimes they have committed. So, your move Russia! Oh not going to happen? You want invade Ukraine and maybe Finland next. Well that's not going to happen. This war is not going to have a happy end unless Putin dies and Russia gets democracy. But they never really had that do i guess we'll wait until russians overthrow their government again and see what happens next. 
I am surprised there haven't been any threads opened about this yet.
In recent months, Russia has massed hundreds of thousands of troops and other military equipment on the Russia-Ukraine border. It is well known that Russia wants Ukraine to be part of its county, however Russian dictator, President Putin, has claimed that the troop mass is part of a training exercise.
The US and NATO allies are sending military equipment to Ukraine to help repeal an attack, and there is some talk about possibly sending troops to the region.
Update 2/18/22:
It appears there may have been some kind of false flag operation in Dumbas, Ukraine, an area controlled by a separatist group, today, possibly involving an alleged bombing of the car belonging to the leader of the separatist group. It is possible this is part of some kind of false flag operation to create a pretext for an invasion.
President Biden today said he believes Putin has made the decision to invade and will start an invasion in the coming days.
Update 2/21/22:
It appears an invasion has begun
Update 2/23/22:
It appears there are some kind of bombings in Kiev, the capital of Ukraine
In recent months, Russia has massed hundreds of thousands of troops and other military equipment on the Russia-Ukraine border. It is well known that Russia wants Ukraine to be part of its county, however Russian dictator, President Putin, has claimed that the troop mass is part of a training exercise.
The US and NATO allies are sending military equipment to Ukraine to help repeal an attack, and there is some talk about possibly sending troops to the region.
Update 2/18/22:
It appears there may have been some kind of false flag operation in Dumbas, Ukraine, an area controlled by a separatist group, today, possibly involving an alleged bombing of the car belonging to the leader of the separatist group. It is possible this is part of some kind of false flag operation to create a pretext for an invasion.
President Biden today said he believes Putin has made the decision to invade and will start an invasion in the coming days.
Update 2/21/22:
It appears an invasion has begun
Update 2/23/22:
It appears there are some kind of bombings in Kiev, the capital of Ukraine
This war is really affecting the civilians heavily. Sometimes these world leaders engage in power tussle at the detriment of their citizens. My advice is for the rest of the world's leaders outside Ukraine and Russia to try and make peace between the two rival countries.
Did you hear Putin fell down the stairs and pooped his pants?
Don't believe any rumors, it was Biden.Could be both.
Could be the new normal
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A must have bank note (500 UAH to $13.54)
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There are several sources and estimates between a drop of 4% and 1%, just google a bit if you need to. It is all right if you want to deny and all that, the economy does not care for it - in the end, people loose their employment, investment is reduced and everyone is worse off. Congrats on the "victory".
https://www.reuters.com/markets/russias-more-gradual-economic-contraction-extend-into-2023-2022-12-02/#:~:text=MOSCOW%2C%20Dec%202%20(Reuters),room%20to%20cut%20interest%20rates.
I asked where did you get that for a country in the BRICS group anything less than growing the GDP by 5% is an absolute failure?https://www.reuters.com/markets/russias-more-gradual-economic-contraction-extend-into-2023-2022-12-02/#:~:text=MOSCOW%2C%20Dec%202%20(Reuters),room%20to%20cut%20interest%20rates.
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MOSCOW, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Russia's economy is set to shrink by 2.5% next year, on top of a 3% contraction in 2022, a Reuters poll suggested on Friday, with stubbornly high inflation giving the central bank only limited room to cut interest rates.
Russia's economic landscape changed drastically after Moscow sent tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine on Feb. 24, triggering sweeping Western restrictions on its energy and financial sectors, including a partial freeze of Russian reserves, and leading scores of companies to exit the market.
Russia's economic landscape changed drastically after Moscow sent tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine on Feb. 24, triggering sweeping Western restrictions on its energy and financial sectors, including a partial freeze of Russian reserves, and leading scores of companies to exit the market.
Two main reasons:
- Employment is linked to growth. Most countries only generate new employment when they grow above 2% or so. BRICS need more than that to generate opportunities for their young people, as usually population is also on the rise.
- Because investment is about risk versus benefit. A BRICS is by their own nature can only attract investment and financing by offering a great growth rate.
It is quite basic. BRICS often have "bad years" but very rarely have several consecutive "bad years", but anyway, if you think is going well out there... enjoy.
And the reason why things seem to be a bit of trouble for BRICS is, they are trying to bring world money back onto a value-trade standard, rather than the current world money system which is a fiat, debt-backed, Ponzi scheme.
Actually, all that Russia and BRICS have to do is hold out for a while longer. The big fiat Ponzi that rules the world, now, will collapse due to its own weight... its fakery.
Another post of "when this happens" or "if this happens"... Managing countries and the lives of people is not based on your hypothesis about the apocalypses and your God intervening in the world, but in politics, hard facts and managing risks that are actually there and can actually be managed.
As I have said in previous posts, it is good that you are a patient person - patience is a virtue and one can spend a whole life wating for "holding a while longer", just until the current fiat system collapses all the sudden. Yes... I do advise you plenty of patience.
Now, how is that application for RF citizenship going BA?
Do you think that American, European or Ukrainian media never lie, or do you have a special goal in life to expose lies only in the Russian media?
Never said that. But Wester and Ukrainian is ages behind Russian in making of fakes.You were given a link to a completely official Ukrainian site, where they named the approximate number of bayraktars from 60 to 96. Everything else is guesswork. For some reason, you don't ask yourself that bayraktars have practically ceased to be talked about in the media. With a high degree of probability this means that they have all been destroyed (from 60 to 96), otherwise what's the point for the Armed Forces of Ukraine not to use them? In any case, only the General Staff of Ukraine knows the truth, how many bayraktars were in total and how many of them were lost. Shares such information, including on the HIMARS and aircrafts, during the hostilities no one will ever. Therefore, your conversations are at the level of faith. You also cannot refute the words of the Russian general Konashenkov, because you don't have the appropriate level of knowledge for this. What real evidence do you have that Konashenkov is lying, apart from your guesses?
Since when Defence-ua.com become official source? I always thought that offical source is Ministry of Defence of Ukraine or General Staff of the AFU, but not some news website which focus on military topics.Quote
For some reason, many in the West think that everything in this conflict is tied to Putin. Of course, I don't know the inner workings of the Kremlin, but judging by the Telegram posts of the former Russian President Medvedev (who 3 days ago met with the leader of China), Putin is generally a dove of peace against his background, and if such a repulsed hawk as Medvedev comes, then a total war can quickly flare up. If it seems to someone that Medvedev is nothing from a military point of view, then I hasten to remind you that in 2008 (08.08.08), under Medvedev, they dealt with the Georgian army in five days, which attacked the territory of South Ossetia.
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Oh, alcochol additctive Dimon who is now playing role of clown Zhirinovsky who loves to make apocalyptic scenarios which never turn into reality. Is it really worth to pay attention to his words?https://talkimg.com/images/2023/09/10/meC7Z.png
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Do they (Oryx) also always "tell the truth" like the American press? Let's see what they write about Oryx on Wikipedia:
^ One of Oryx worked with a British military intelligence company. Do you even know that the British military are among the most active supporters of Ukraine and are never a neutral side in this conflict? Also, the authors are former employees of Bellingcat. Now let's see what opinion other information resources have about this organization:
Source: archive of American investigative reporter Emma Best
So, where is the problem exactly? Do you have proofs about them publishing fakes or only problem that you found is personalities that runs website?Code:
Oryx, or Oryxspioenkop is a Dutch open-source intelligence (OSINT) defence analysis website,
and warfare research group. It is run by Stijn Mitzer and Joost Oliemans. Both have previously worked
for Netherlands-based Bellingcat. Oliemans also worked for Janes Information Services, a British
open-source military intelligence company.
^ One of Oryx worked with a British military intelligence company. Do you even know that the British military are among the most active supporters of Ukraine and are never a neutral side in this conflict? Also, the authors are former employees of Bellingcat. Now let's see what opinion other information resources have about this organization:
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[2016-10-22 17:53:09]Bellingcat is part funded by the UK MoD and is UKUSA aligned.
Putin had sooo wanted peace. He had hoped that his February police action would quell the US takeover of Ukraine. But things didn't work out the way he had hoped. So, finally, he is realizing that he has to get serious.
Putin now making preparations to finish Ukraine and take on NATO with massive military buildup that includes nuclear-capable hypersonic nuclear missiles
Putin now making preparations to finish Ukraine and take on NATO with massive military buildup that includes nuclear-capable hypersonic nuclear missiles
Quote from: https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-12-24-putin-now-making-preparations-to-finish-ukraine.html
The Russian generals who planned the invasion of Ukraine likely told President Vladimir Putin the operation would be relatively painless and very easy. Meaning, there wouldn’t be many casualties and that Russian forces would quickly reach their objectives.
Ten months later, it’s become quite obvious how utterly wrong those generals were. Not only has Russia failed to reach most objectives, but Ukrainian forces have proven to be much tougher than estimated and, with an influx of Western weapons — primarily from the United States — Russian forces are reeling and have been pushed out of areas they initially captured.
But Moscow’s military misfortunes may be about to change, and soon: As winter sets in and the ground in Ukraine becomes hard and frozen, it looks as though Putin is priming his military for a major offensive that reportedly will include two of NATO’s newest members, Finland and Sweden.
The UK’s Daily Mail reported:
Vladimir Putin has dramatically escalated the Ukraine war again by raising his nuclear combat readiness and bolstering his troops by 350,000 to turn the tide on his failing campaign, raising fears of a global conflict.
The war-mongering despot warned the Kremlin will invest whatever necessary to increase its nuclear arsenal and vowed his much-hyped Zircon hypersonic cruise missiles will be available to his forces within weeks.
New military units will be formed on Russia’s western borders to terrorize and scold Finland and Sweden for seeking to join NATO in the face of Kremlin aggression.
The major buildup of forces means that the war will be escalating as well, both of which should send pause through the ranks of Western civilian and military leaders after weeks of decent gains by Ukrainian forces and a visit to the United States by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to plead for more weapons. The specter of a nuclear conflict has now been raised dramatically as well, given that the Zircon missiles are capable of intercontinental travel and can be tipped with nuclear warheads. Oh, and no missile defenses in American or Western arsenals can stop them, either.
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Ten months later, it’s become quite obvious how utterly wrong those generals were. Not only has Russia failed to reach most objectives, but Ukrainian forces have proven to be much tougher than estimated and, with an influx of Western weapons — primarily from the United States — Russian forces are reeling and have been pushed out of areas they initially captured.
But Moscow’s military misfortunes may be about to change, and soon: As winter sets in and the ground in Ukraine becomes hard and frozen, it looks as though Putin is priming his military for a major offensive that reportedly will include two of NATO’s newest members, Finland and Sweden.
The UK’s Daily Mail reported:
Vladimir Putin has dramatically escalated the Ukraine war again by raising his nuclear combat readiness and bolstering his troops by 350,000 to turn the tide on his failing campaign, raising fears of a global conflict.
The war-mongering despot warned the Kremlin will invest whatever necessary to increase its nuclear arsenal and vowed his much-hyped Zircon hypersonic cruise missiles will be available to his forces within weeks.
New military units will be formed on Russia’s western borders to terrorize and scold Finland and Sweden for seeking to join NATO in the face of Kremlin aggression.
The major buildup of forces means that the war will be escalating as well, both of which should send pause through the ranks of Western civilian and military leaders after weeks of decent gains by Ukrainian forces and a visit to the United States by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to plead for more weapons. The specter of a nuclear conflict has now been raised dramatically as well, given that the Zircon missiles are capable of intercontinental travel and can be tipped with nuclear warheads. Oh, and no missile defenses in American or Western arsenals can stop them, either.
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Americans are generally champions when it comes to hypocrisy, but sometimes you bump into honest one
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I don't. And - as usual with whataboutism deflection - you failed to indicate whether those two things are supposed to be positive or negative.
If you say you don't, then it's true. Let me think though... Nah, this is nonsense. You do it. And your thesis about "whataboutism" is your subjective assessment.
I said "[you] post Z-links and other Russian propaganda as facts." You responded by saying that I post Western propaganda as facts. That is whataboutism as defined above (counter-accusation). And even if your counter-accusation were true, it doesn't make any sense as a counter-argument. "someone else does it too" doesn't work as an excuse even for toddlers.
For you, everything that is printed in the American media like CNN or AP about the Ukrainian conflict is true. A little bit of a journalistic "investigation" has appeared against the Russian troops and you are ready to swallow everything that American propaganda offers you. Moreover, you are ready to defend it as the ultimate truth. You don't even question their articles, if they were published in the American media, then it's true. You consume information in such a way and your perception is so tuned.
I don't really consume the media the way you imagine. Most of the information about the war I'm getting from TG, both Russian and Ukrainian channels. When I post links to media sites it's likely because they're more accessible. I doubt I ever claimed they only publish absolute truth and nothing but the truth, but your rebuttals are quite pathetic. Like trying to claim that a couple thousand Ukrainians surrounded in Mariupol for a month managed to bomb themselves while defending against 20 BTGs of Russian forces. Makes no sense. Or that some social media comment is proof of something. Photo/video/witness evidence beats armchair expert opinions IMO.
No, I'd say I have a pretty good understanding. Here is a quick recap if you need help: your genocidal dictator invaded Ukraine.
Judging by what you just wrote, you are generally far from any understanding.[...]
I kinda expected that "genocidal dictator" will trigger you, but holy crap, this is a lot of work to justify the old deluded wannabe tsar.
But let's assume in some contrived alternate universe Putin's invasion was justifiable. How do you imagine he's going to achieve his objectives? So far he's managed to kill many more Donbas residents than were killed in the prior 8 years, and left a huge trail of destruction everywhere, from ruined Mariupol (or e.g. Severodonetsk - not even basic services/utilities functioning 6 months after occupation) to the capital of one of their new republics Kherson, which they're bombing non-stop killing supposedly new Russian citizens (TBH I don't really follow the annexation logic if there is one).
There was never any proof beyond speculation of Ukrainians having that many, let alone any proof of Russians destroying that many.
You were given a link to a completely official Ukrainian site, where they named the approximate number of bayraktars from 60 to 96. Everything else is guesswork. For some reason, you don't ask yourself that bayraktars have practically ceased to be talked about in the media.Which media? I see them mentioned a lot, particularly in Russian channels. Seems that Bayraktars are now mostly on recon duty, what with Ukrainians having better weapons like HIMARS now. Of course Russians could be lying, that sometimes happens too
Shares such information, including on the HIMARS and aircrafts, during the hostilities no one will ever. Therefore, your conversations are at the level of faith. You also cannot refute the words of the Russian general Konashenkov, because you don't have the appropriate level of knowledge for this. What real evidence do you have that Konashenkov is lying, apart from your guesses?
Number of airplanes Ukraine had and number of HIMARS launchers it received - both are well known. I'd dig them up but it seems kinda pointless since you'd find someone on the internet saying that it's not true and that will be your rebuttal.
Do you really think The Sun can start a world war?
Do you feel the difference between "starting a war" and "providing information support to escalate the conflict"?The most recent war started on false information that I remember was the invasion into Iraq, and it wasn't tabloids, it was bad intelligence. So I'd still say that your claim is absurd. If anything the UK/US yellow media tends to dig up shit that discredits their military, because again - catchy headlines, clicks, and revenue.
It seems to you that the war can simply be ended with the withdrawal of Russian troops.
Yes. And likely that's how it will end in any case, give or take the exact line the withdrawal will happen at.
Kremlin officials would rather destroy the whole of Europe together with Ukraine in a nuclear fire than go for it
It'd be suicide though. I'm sure even the most deluded kremlinists can figure that one out, otherwise they'd have nuked Kyiv long time ago.
If it seems to someone that Medvedev is nothing from a military point of view, then I hasten to remind you that in 2008 (08.08.08), under Medvedev, they dealt with the Georgian army in five days, which attacked the territory of South Ossetia.
Makes one wonder why he isn't in charge of the "special operation" then. Might have something to do with him being a drunk troll, although it's cute how you think that Medvedev was in charge of anything in 2008 when Putin let him sit on the throne for a few years.
Do they (Oryx) also always "tell the truth" like the American press?
Their data is not based on opinion - they provide photo/video evidence, which is a lot more than you get from Konashenkov (or UA General Staff for that matter).
Did you hear Putin fell down the stairs and pooped his pants?
Don't believe any rumors, it was Biden.Could be both.
Did you hear Putin fell down the stairs and pooped his pants?
Don't believe any rumors, it was Biden.
I don't. And - as usual with whataboutism deflection - you failed to indicate whether those two things are supposed to be positive or negative.
If you say you don't, then it's true. Let me think though... Nah, this is nonsense. You do it. And your thesis about "whataboutism" is your subjective assessment. For you, everything that is printed in the American media like CNN or AP about the Ukrainian conflict is true. A little bit of a journalistic "investigation" has appeared against the Russian troops and you are ready to swallow everything that American propaganda offers you. Moreover, you are ready to defend it as the ultimate truth. You don't even question their articles, if they were published in the American media, then it's true. You consume information in such a way and your perception is so tuned.No, I'd say I have a pretty good understanding. Here is a quick recap if you need help: your genocidal dictator invaded Ukraine.
Judging by what you just wrote, you are generally far from any understanding.You have been told more than once in this thread that at the beginning of 2014, the Kyiv junta carried out an anti-constitutional coup against the legitimate Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych, when 1 million rebels in Kyiv decided the fate of 35 million people throughout Ukraine, without any vote. If you don't know, that's not how democracies behave. Do you remember what in the United States calls the rioters who disagreed with the results of the voting in favor of Biden and who entered the Capitol on January 6, 2021? They are called "domestic terrorists". But in relation to Ukraine, Western propaganda called the rebels "democracy fighters", because it is beneficial for the United States to set fire to the underbelly of Russia and weaken it economically. The goal is to keep this area in a constant zone of tension. Do you think that Russia needs this most of all - to have hostilities right next to its border? Think about who is benefiting the most financially from the fact that Russia doesn't trade with the European Union.
For several years, a gang lured by the United States (and personally by Joe Biden), called the "Kiev government" refused to comply with the UN resolution in the form of the Minsk Agreements, according to which the regions of Donbass (DPR and LPR) would remain part of Ukraine, but with a special status. Instead of solving everything peacefully, the Ukrainian junta, on the contrary, has been arming itself to the teeth all this time, building fortifications in the Donbass and bombing the Russian-speaking population there. Sponsors from US and NATO helped junta in this.
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From 2014, when Russia first invaded Ukraine,
through November 23, 2022, the United States has provided
approximately $21.8 billion in security assistance "to help
Ukraine preserve its territorial integrity, secure its borders,
and improve interoperability with NATO".
The ex-president of Ukraine Poroshenko and ex-Chancellor of Germany Angela Merkel admitted that the Minsk agreements were a temporary respite for Ukraine. Zelensky has said that he is not satisfied with the way the Minsk agreements are drawn up. Moreover, on February 19, 2022, Zelensky began to talk about the rejection of the Budapest Memorandum, which means Ukraine's nuclear armament. Imagine nuclear weapons in a country whose armed forces officially include recognized Nazis from Azov.
When the heads of the DPR and LPR asked Zelensky on February 22, 2022 to withdraw troops from the Donbass, he refused to listen to them, sarcastically asking "Who is this?". During the 2019 presidential election in Ukraine, Zelensky promised to end the war in Ukraine. But then his plans changed and now he cuts Ukrainian soldiers into minced meat, cashing in on the deaths of ordinary Ukrainians with his wife and his inner circle.
This gave Putin a pretext to attack in February 2022 in accordance with Article 51 of the UN Charter, Chapter 7.
Also, in early October 2022, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said a phrase that I would like to verify with the help of independent qualified international lawyers. On October 4, 2022, referring to the UN Charter and the declaration of the General Assembly, Lavrov said the following: "Everyone must respect the territorial integrity of those states that have governments that recognize the right to self-determination and represent all the people living in the territory of a particular country. Zelensky's regime, and even more so Poroshenko's, didn't meet these criteria".
There was never any proof beyond speculation of Ukrainians having that many, let alone any proof of Russians destroying that many.
You were given a link to a completely official Ukrainian site, where they named the approximate number of bayraktars from 60 to 96. Everything else is guesswork. For some reason, you don't ask yourself that bayraktars have practically ceased to be talked about in the media. With a high degree of probability this means that they have all been destroyed (from 60 to 96), otherwise what's the point for the Armed Forces of Ukraine not to use them? In any case, only the General Staff of Ukraine knows the truth, how many bayraktars were in total and how many of them were lost. Shares such information, including on the HIMARS and aircrafts, during the hostilities no one will ever. Therefore, your conversations are at the level of faith. You also cannot refute the words of the Russian general Konashenkov, because you don't have the appropriate level of knowledge for this. What real evidence do you have that Konashenkov is lying, apart from your guesses?Do you really think The Sun can start a world war?
Do you feel the difference between "starting a war" and "providing information support to escalate the conflict"? The American press works more effectively on you than the British. You seem to really underestimate the power of media influence, you don't even feel like you yourself fell on their hook. Because you are ready to tear Putin with your teeth after their articles. In your opinion, tabloids don't influence politics. Although this is not the case, judging by how many Britons are ready not only to send financial assistance to the Armed Forces of Ukraine and freeze in cold dwellings so that the Ukrainian soldiers fight against Putin's troops, but even go to fight as mercenaries in Ukraine. Western propaganda also went through the local users in such a way that now they put in their signatures the slogans that the Nazi Ukrainian formations shouted in the 40s of the 20th century, and call Russian subhumans.Damn, you still think Zelensky as a person and/or his "regime" is what's important in this war. Here's the thing. Putin gives an order to retreat - war ends. Or if he croaks - there's a good chance war ends too. Zelensky does that - war most likely doesn't end. Take a minute to think about that.
Zelensky is a tool in the hands of American and British manipulators.It seems to you that the war can simply be ended with the withdrawal of Russian troops. For the Kremlin, any departure from the initial plan of demilitarization, denazification and Ukraine's neutral/non-bloc status will be considered an unconditional military defeat for Russia and is at great risk of triggering a coup d'état in Russia. The Kiev government is ready to fight until Russia returns the Donbass and Crimea, and the Zelensky government also wants to demand reparations 600 billion euro and a military tribunal for Russia. Remind me how much the US and NATO countries paid Iraq, Syria, Libya and other countries to rebuild? I have to disappoint you, but Kremlin officials would rather destroy the whole of Europe together with Ukraine in a nuclear fire than go for it, or they will all be destroyed by radical Russian citizens who have been told for years about the genocide of people in the Donbass and about Crimea liberated from the Nazis. Too much is at stake in this conflict, and it's not about Ukraine at all, but about NATO's ambitions, which understand only the language of force. And there is no need to start tales here that NATO is a defensive alliance, these "defenders" have already killed millions of people for the sake of their goals. The forces of the alliance are stopped only by the presence of nuclear weapons in Russia, otherwise the smoldering coals would have long been left in the place of the Kremlin.
For some reason, many in the West think that everything in this conflict is tied to Putin. Of course, I don't know the inner workings of the Kremlin, but judging by the Telegram posts of the former Russian President Medvedev (who 3 days ago met with the leader of China), Putin is generally a dove of peace against his background, and if such a repulsed hawk as Medvedev comes, then a total war can quickly flare up. If it seems to someone that Medvedev is nothing from a military point of view, then I hasten to remind you that in 2008 (08.08.08), under Medvedev, they dealt with the Georgian army in five days, which attacked the territory of South Ossetia.
Oryx collects photo or video proof and goes to painstaking lengths to verify/deduplicate/identify the equipment. As far as sources go, it's one of the best. It's quite telling that you try to discredit it based on who posted the link.
Do they (Oryx) also always "tell the truth" like the American press? Let's see what they write about Oryx on Wikipedia:Code:
Oryx, or Oryxspioenkop is a Dutch open-source intelligence (OSINT) defence analysis website,
and warfare research group. It is run by Stijn Mitzer and Joost Oliemans. Both have previously worked
for Netherlands-based Bellingcat. Oliemans also worked for Janes Information Services, a British
open-source military intelligence company.
^ One of Oryx worked with a British military intelligence company. Do you even know that the British military are among the most active supporters of Ukraine and are never a neutral side in this conflict? Also, the authors are former employees of Bellingcat. Now let's see what opinion other information resources have about this organization:
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[2016-10-22 17:53:09]Bellingcat is part funded by the UK MoD and is UKUSA aligned.
There are several sources and estimates between a drop of 4% and 1%, just google a bit if you need to. It is all right if you want to deny and all that, the economy does not care for it - in the end, people loose their employment, investment is reduced and everyone is worse off. Congrats on the "victory".
https://www.reuters.com/markets/russias-more-gradual-economic-contraction-extend-into-2023-2022-12-02/#:~:text=MOSCOW%2C%20Dec%202%20(Reuters),room%20to%20cut%20interest%20rates.
I asked where did you get that for a country in the BRICS group anything less than growing the GDP by 5% is an absolute failure?https://www.reuters.com/markets/russias-more-gradual-economic-contraction-extend-into-2023-2022-12-02/#:~:text=MOSCOW%2C%20Dec%202%20(Reuters),room%20to%20cut%20interest%20rates.
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MOSCOW, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Russia's economy is set to shrink by 2.5% next year, on top of a 3% contraction in 2022, a Reuters poll suggested on Friday, with stubbornly high inflation giving the central bank only limited room to cut interest rates.
Russia's economic landscape changed drastically after Moscow sent tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine on Feb. 24, triggering sweeping Western restrictions on its energy and financial sectors, including a partial freeze of Russian reserves, and leading scores of companies to exit the market.
Russia's economic landscape changed drastically after Moscow sent tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine on Feb. 24, triggering sweeping Western restrictions on its energy and financial sectors, including a partial freeze of Russian reserves, and leading scores of companies to exit the market.
Two main reasons:
- Employment is linked to growth. Most countries only generate new employment when they grow above 2% or so. BRICS need more than that to generate opportunities for their young people, as usually population is also on the rise.
- Because investment is about risk versus benefit. A BRICS is by their own nature can only attract investment and financing by offering a great growth rate.
It is quite basic. BRICS often have "bad years" but very rarely have several consecutive "bad years", but anyway, if you think is going well out there... enjoy.
And the reason why things seem to be a bit of trouble for BRICS is, they are trying to bring world money back onto a value-trade standard, rather than the current world money system which is a fiat, debt-backed, Ponzi scheme.
Actually, all that Russia and BRICS have to do is hold out for a while longer. The big fiat Ponzi that rules the world, now, will collapse due to its own weight... its fakery.
There are several sources and estimates between a drop of 4% and 1%, just google a bit if you need to. It is all right if you want to deny and all that, the economy does not care for it - in the end, people loose their employment, investment is reduced and everyone is worse off. Congrats on the "victory".
https://www.reuters.com/markets/russias-more-gradual-economic-contraction-extend-into-2023-2022-12-02/#:~:text=MOSCOW%2C%20Dec%202%20(Reuters),room%20to%20cut%20interest%20rates.
I asked where did you get that for a country in the BRICS group anything less than growing the GDP by 5% is an absolute failure?https://www.reuters.com/markets/russias-more-gradual-economic-contraction-extend-into-2023-2022-12-02/#:~:text=MOSCOW%2C%20Dec%202%20(Reuters),room%20to%20cut%20interest%20rates.
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MOSCOW, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Russia's economy is set to shrink by 2.5% next year, on top of a 3% contraction in 2022, a Reuters poll suggested on Friday, with stubbornly high inflation giving the central bank only limited room to cut interest rates.
Russia's economic landscape changed drastically after Moscow sent tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine on Feb. 24, triggering sweeping Western restrictions on its energy and financial sectors, including a partial freeze of Russian reserves, and leading scores of companies to exit the market.
Russia's economic landscape changed drastically after Moscow sent tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine on Feb. 24, triggering sweeping Western restrictions on its energy and financial sectors, including a partial freeze of Russian reserves, and leading scores of companies to exit the market.
Two main reasons:
- Employment is linked to growth. Most countries only generate new employment when they grow above 2% or so. BRICS need more than that to generate opportunities for their young people, as usually population is also on the rise.
- Because investment is about risk versus benefit. A BRICS is by their own nature can only attract investment and financing by offering a great growth rate.
It is quite basic. BRICS often have "bad years" but very rarely have several consecutive "bad years", but anyway, if you think is going well out there... enjoy.
There are several sources and estimates between a drop of 4% and 1%, just google a bit if you need to. It is all right if you want to deny and all that, the economy does not care for it - in the end, people loose their employment, investment is reduced and everyone is worse off. Congrats on the "victory".
https://www.reuters.com/markets/russias-more-gradual-economic-contraction-extend-into-2023-2022-12-02/#:~:text=MOSCOW%2C%20Dec%202%20(Reuters),room%20to%20cut%20interest%20rates.
I asked where did you get that for a country in the BRICS group anything less than growing the GDP by 5% is an absolute failure?https://www.reuters.com/markets/russias-more-gradual-economic-contraction-extend-into-2023-2022-12-02/#:~:text=MOSCOW%2C%20Dec%202%20(Reuters),room%20to%20cut%20interest%20rates.
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MOSCOW, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Russia's economy is set to shrink by 2.5% next year, on top of a 3% contraction in 2022, a Reuters poll suggested on Friday, with stubbornly high inflation giving the central bank only limited room to cut interest rates.
Russia's economic landscape changed drastically after Moscow sent tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine on Feb. 24, triggering sweeping Western restrictions on its energy and financial sectors, including a partial freeze of Russian reserves, and leading scores of companies to exit the market.
Russia's economic landscape changed drastically after Moscow sent tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine on Feb. 24, triggering sweeping Western restrictions on its energy and financial sectors, including a partial freeze of Russian reserves, and leading scores of companies to exit the market.
Remember when I asked what your source was for the claim that the Iranian drones Russia was using were produced in Russia? You never did answer...
Or was that branko. Maybe I'm mixing you two up.
The war between Ukraine and Russia went on in defiance of their preconditions. And during the war between these two countries, the economic system of the whole world was seriously affected. That's why the whole world is now standing at the border like a helpless person, the economic system of the neighboring countries is suffering the most due to the war between these two countries. However, because of the UKraine and Russia, they are also falling into many crises from the economic system, but if a country goes to war, it will take a long time to restore their economic system.
There are several sources and estimates between a drop of 4% and 1%, just google a bit if you need to. It is all right if you want to deny and all that, the economy does not care for it - in the end, people loose their employment, investment is reduced and everyone is worse off. Congrats on the "victory".
https://www.reuters.com/markets/russias-more-gradual-economic-contraction-extend-into-2023-2022-12-02/#:~:text=MOSCOW%2C%20Dec%202%20(Reuters),room%20to%20cut%20interest%20rates.
I asked where did you get that for a country in the BRICS group anything less than growing the GDP by 5% is an absolute failure? https://www.reuters.com/markets/russias-more-gradual-economic-contraction-extend-into-2023-2022-12-02/#:~:text=MOSCOW%2C%20Dec%202%20(Reuters),room%20to%20cut%20interest%20rates.
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MOSCOW, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Russia's economy is set to shrink by 2.5% next year, on top of a 3% contraction in 2022, a Reuters poll suggested on Friday, with stubbornly high inflation giving the central bank only limited room to cut interest rates.
Russia's economic landscape changed drastically after Moscow sent tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine on Feb. 24, triggering sweeping Western restrictions on its energy and financial sectors, including a partial freeze of Russian reserves, and leading scores of companies to exit the market.
Russia's economic landscape changed drastically after Moscow sent tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine on Feb. 24, triggering sweeping Western restrictions on its energy and financial sectors, including a partial freeze of Russian reserves, and leading scores of companies to exit the market.
Oh, guess who is back. We haven't seen you for a while, probably since shameful retreat of Russians from Kherson. It was a bit boring without you, it would be interesting to read your insights about it.
And I, in turn, got bored with the topic of Ukraine, at least against the backdrop of the recent World Cup.Sanctions went almost painlessly? It's same like "special operation" goes as planned.
Yep, almost painless. It seems that Europe suffers from anti-Russian sanctions much more than Russia. For "twice torn to shreds" the Russian economy feels just fine.Not at all. For a country in the BRICS group, anything less than growing the GDP by 5% is an absolute failure - which is the case. But that is only the short term. I wonder if RF is counting on China buying their oil and gas, because others will think twice before trusting the crazy Ivans.
There are several sources and estimates between a drop of 4% and 1%, just google a bit if you need to. It is all right if you want to deny and all that, the economy does not care for it - in the end, people loose their employment, investment is reduced and everyone is worse off. Congrats on the "victory".
https://www.reuters.com/markets/russias-more-gradual-economic-contraction-extend-into-2023-2022-12-02/#:~:text=MOSCOW%2C%20Dec%202%20(Reuters),room%20to%20cut%20interest%20rates.
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MOSCOW, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Russia's economy is set to shrink by 2.5% next year, on top of a 3% contraction in 2022, a Reuters poll suggested on Friday, with stubbornly high inflation giving the central bank only limited room to cut interest rates.
Russia's economic landscape changed drastically after Moscow sent tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine on Feb. 24, triggering sweeping Western restrictions on its energy and financial sectors, including a partial freeze of Russian reserves, and leading scores of companies to exit the market.
Russia's economic landscape changed drastically after Moscow sent tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine on Feb. 24, triggering sweeping Western restrictions on its energy and financial sectors, including a partial freeze of Russian reserves, and leading scores of companies to exit the market.
BTW, again the smoking habits of the RF soldiers has causes problems in their most valued assets. I wonder if there may be also smoking near power production plants in the future.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-12-12/russia-s-only-aircraft-carrier-stricken-by-fire-in-latest-mishap
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Russia’s Only Aircraft Carrier Hit by Fire in Latest Mishap
Blaze started during repair work on Admiral Kuznetsov. Originally built by Soviets, ship had long suffered problems
Blaze started during repair work on Admiral Kuznetsov. Originally built by Soviets, ship had long suffered problems
More and again, Ukraine is losing the war. Zelensky's requests for more troops and war materials from the US amount to getting a new military from the US. What ever happened to their last military? Oh that's right. Russia happened to them. Yet, the US in general stupidity is going to send more to Ukraine.
It isn't the people of the US and Nato countries that are sending 'stuff' to Ukraine. It's the leaders. It isn't the general populace of the US and Nato countries that are against Russia. It the manipulation by the lying media of those countries... which is controlled by the government leaders behind the scenes.
So, people die for this stupid nonsense... which in reality is making a bunch of money for the leaders.
Washington Is Prolonging Ukraine's Suffering
It isn't the people of the US and Nato countries that are sending 'stuff' to Ukraine. It's the leaders. It isn't the general populace of the US and Nato countries that are against Russia. It the manipulation by the lying media of those countries... which is controlled by the government leaders behind the scenes.
So, people die for this stupid nonsense... which in reality is making a bunch of money for the leaders.
Washington Is Prolonging Ukraine's Suffering
During a speech given on November 29, Polish Vice-Minister of National Defense (MON) Marcin Ociepa said: "The probability of a war in which we will be involved is very high. Too high for us to treat this scenario only hypothetically." The Polish MON is allegedly planning to call up 200,000 reservists in 2023 for a few weeks' training, but observers in Warsaw suspect this action could easily lead to a national mobilization.
Meanwhile, inside the Biden administration, there is growing concern that the Ukrainian war effort will collapse under the weight of a Russian offensive. And as the ground in Southern Ukraine finally freezes, the administration's fears are justified. In an interview published in the Economist, head of Ukraine's armed forces General Valery Zaluzhny admitted that Russian mobilization and tactics are working. He even hinted that Ukrainian forces might be unable to withstand the coming Russian onslaught.
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The Biden administration’s unconditional support for the Zelensky regime in Kiev is reaching a strategic inflection point not unlike the one LBJ reached in 1965. Just as LBJ suddenly determined in 1964 that peace and security in Southeast Asia was a vital U.S. strategic interest, the Biden administration is making a similar argument now for Ukraine. Like South Vietnam in the 1960s, Ukraine is losing its war with Russia.
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Meanwhile, inside the Biden administration, there is growing concern that the Ukrainian war effort will collapse under the weight of a Russian offensive. And as the ground in Southern Ukraine finally freezes, the administration's fears are justified. In an interview published in the Economist, head of Ukraine's armed forces General Valery Zaluzhny admitted that Russian mobilization and tactics are working. He even hinted that Ukrainian forces might be unable to withstand the coming Russian onslaught.
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The Biden administration’s unconditional support for the Zelensky regime in Kiev is reaching a strategic inflection point not unlike the one LBJ reached in 1965. Just as LBJ suddenly determined in 1964 that peace and security in Southeast Asia was a vital U.S. strategic interest, the Biden administration is making a similar argument now for Ukraine. Like South Vietnam in the 1960s, Ukraine is losing its war with Russia.
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Oh, guess who is back. We haven't seen you for a while, probably since shameful retreat of Russians from Kherson. It was a bit boring without you, it would be interesting to read your insights about it.
And I, in turn, got bored with the topic of Ukraine, at least against the backdrop of the recent World Cup.Sanctions went almost painlessly? It's same like "special operation" goes as planned.
Yep, almost painless. It seems that Europe suffers from anti-Russian sanctions much more than Russia. For "twice torn to shreds" the Russian economy feels just fine.Not at all. For a country in the BRICS group, anything less than growing the GDP by 5% is an absolute failure - which is the case. But that is only the short term. I wonder if RF is counting on China buying their oil and gas, because others will think twice before trusting the crazy Ivans.
The Russia Ukraine war is in our daily lives for almost everyone Many problems have to be faced Due to the prolonged war, the economic condition of almost every country has become very weak This war is one of the reasons why cryptocurrencies have fallen so much Because of the war crypto market At the same time, the consumer demand of daily life has decreased so much that the market price has increased.We wish this war to stop very soon.But it is possible for our daily life to be normal again with crypto market also.As much as we are facing problems, the lives of many ordinary people in Ukraine have become difficult Many are losing their lives It is a sad matter and I hope that the war will stop and the life of the people there will be easier
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