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December 15, 2022, 06:45:04 PM
Oh, guess who is back.

Speaking of disappearances, did we ever get Veleor's take on the "negative offensive" around Kherson or the 100 HIMARSes destroyed by Konashenkov? I don't recall. Veleor usually brings the full digest of Russian propaganda, much better than be.open's lazy channel 1 parrot act.
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December 15, 2022, 05:30:28 PM
This reasoning doesn't make any sense when you look any closer.

If (and they don't) US had their precious bio-labs in ukraine then that would be the reason for defending it?

Then don't you think that destroying those labs would come way cheaper then funding a bloody WAR for a year. Do you know how much building a new factories full of labs costs versus a WAR? Do you know what one missile costs? You might not realize that only thing they would need to preserve from those supposed labs is data to build them in anywhere else.

I can't believe i have to say this out loud but this biolab excuse is just total nonsense.
You're trying to find logic in his posts? Give up, mate, it's pointless thing.

Many in Russia are of the opinion (including myself) that the special operation to liberate Donbas should have started eight years earlier. But in fairness, I note that not only Ukraine used this time to strengthen its combat capability, but also Russia - to diversify and minimize the risks associated with Western sanctions. Russia's disconnection from SWIFT, Visa and Mastercard in 2014 would have been a disaster for the financial sector, and in 2022 it went almost painlessly. From a food importer in eight years, Russia has become a major exporter. Therefore, I am not inclined to dramatize about the hypocrisy and duplicity of Merkel, in this world everything happens only on time.
Oh, guess who is back. We haven't seen you for a while, probably since shameful retreat of Russians from Kherson. It was a bit boring without you, it would be interesting to read your insights about it.
Sanctions went almost painlessly? It's same like "special operation" goes as planned.
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December 15, 2022, 11:58:53 AM
So, you think that your reason is the only reason, right? My point was the US bio-labs in Ukraine... labs that they don't want taken over by russia. All you have to do is search on it to find out where some of them are located. Try https://duckduckgo.com/?q=location+of+the+US+bio-labs+in+Ukraine&t=ffab&ia=web.
This reasoning doesn't make any sense when you look any closer.

If (and they don't) US had their precious bio-labs in ukraine then that would be the reason for defending it?

Then don't you think that destroying those labs would come way cheaper then funding a bloody WAR for a year. Do you know how much building a new factories full of labs costs versus a WAR? Do you know what one missile costs? You might not realize that only thing they would need to preserve from those supposed labs is data to build them in anywhere else.

I can't believe i have to say this out loud but this biolab excuse is just total nonsense.

The thing that you don't see is that it is a money laundering machine at the same time that there are bio-labs. Since Biden's son was involved, it means more money for the Bidens and the Dems (and Reps) they work with.

As for funding the war, the money is created for Ukraine by loans (money creations) to the US. Taxpayers only support the payments on the loans. As the money filters into the Ukraine economy, it is filtered into the US economy... and around the world because many countries can trade their currency for USD through the Forex. It's the reason we have world inflation right now. HOWEVER, it has to be done slowly enough, and in just the right way, or the system will collapse in on itself.

So, the labs are only a small part, but they are a part. The whole idea is for the families that own the banking system to be able to own the world. Russia is resisting, as are a few other countries... BRICS.

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December 15, 2022, 11:40:03 AM
So, you think that your reason is the only reason, right? My point was the US bio-labs in Ukraine... labs that they don't want taken over by russia. All you have to do is search on it to find out where some of them are located. Try https://duckduckgo.com/?q=location+of+the+US+bio-labs+in+Ukraine&t=ffab&ia=web.
This reasoning doesn't make any sense when you look any closer.

If (and they don't) US had their precious bio-labs in ukraine then that would be the reason for defending it?

Then don't you think that destroying those labs would come way cheaper then funding a bloody WAR for a year. Do you know how much building a new factories full of labs costs versus a WAR? Do you know what one missile costs? You might not realize that only thing they would need to preserve from those supposed labs is data to build them in anywhere else.

I can't believe i have to say this out loud but this biolab excuse is just total nonsense.
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December 15, 2022, 11:28:30 AM

The US has gained the animosity of many. Most of them irrelevant in the world order, but Saudi Arabia and part of Latin America have made a point of playing either neutral or against US. They do not seem to fear the repercussions, right or wrong? Time will tell.

This guy thinks US is a rogue state

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/09/us-world-climate-collapse-nations

The US is a puppet of their banking system, which is attempting to rule the world.

Hitler was bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, etc. But he was right on about the banking system, which was and is worse, worse, worse, worse, worse, etc.

The banking system will fail, but there will be troubled times coming for the people, as well.

A few countries are resisting the banking system, Russia being the most prominent of them, along with BRICS.

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December 15, 2022, 09:51:51 AM

The US has gained the animosity of many. Most of them irrelevant in the world order, but Saudi Arabia and part of Latin America have made a point of playing either neutral or against US. They do not seem to fear the repercussions, right or wrong? Time will tell.

This guy thinks US is a rogue state

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/09/us-world-climate-collapse-nations
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December 15, 2022, 08:36:01 AM
One of the major reasons for the war is the fact that the US has bio-warfare labs in Ukraine...

No, it's because Putin invaded Ukraine.  US doesn't have any bio-warfare labs in Ukraine.  

The thought is ridiculous. Setting up facilities that can be perfectly fine in the middle of the Nevada desert or in some stupid lost island in a country that is right by the door of an aggressive military local power is just so stupid that only the feeblest minds can fall for it. I am sure there are plenty of labs in Ukraine, there are certainly hundreds in a 100 mile radius of where I am right now. Calling something "bio-lab" is playing with words, like if anything that start with "bio" is something to be afraid of. So silly.

https://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/absolut-unerwartet-putin-zeigt-sich-enttauscht-von-merkel-wegen-ausserungen-zur-ukraine-9006844.html

In the interview published on Thursday, Merkel literally said: "And the 2014 Minsk Agreement was an attempt to give Ukraine time. She also used this time to get stronger, as you can see today.”

According to Merkel, Putin could easily have overrun Ukraine in early 2015. "And I very much doubt that the NATO countries could have done as much back then as they do today to help Ukraine."


Putin was fooled, war was planned since forever...USA didn't plan to honor any agreements since dissolve of USSR
Many in Russia are of the opinion (including myself) that the special operation to liberate Donbas should have started eight years earlier. But in fairness, I note that not only Ukraine used this time to strengthen its combat capability, but also Russia - to diversify and minimize the risks associated with Western sanctions. Russia's disconnection from SWIFT, Visa and Mastercard in 2014 would have been a disaster for the financial sector, and in 2022 it went almost painlessly. From a food importer in eight years, Russia has become a major exporter. Therefore, I am not inclined to dramatize about the hypocrisy and duplicity of Merkel, in this world everything happens only on time.

Perhaps it should have started 8 years earlier. But Putin was trying - and still is - to out-trade the US. And he is doing it, too... considering the countries that are wanting to join BRICS.

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The US has gained the animosity of many. Most of them irrelevant in the world order, but Saudi Arabia and part of Latin America have made a point of playing either neutral or against US. They do not seem to fear the repercussions, right or wrong? Time will tell.
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December 14, 2022, 06:05:02 PM
https://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/absolut-unerwartet-putin-zeigt-sich-enttauscht-von-merkel-wegen-ausserungen-zur-ukraine-9006844.html

In the interview published on Thursday, Merkel literally said: "And the 2014 Minsk Agreement was an attempt to give Ukraine time. She also used this time to get stronger, as you can see today.”

According to Merkel, Putin could easily have overrun Ukraine in early 2015. "And I very much doubt that the NATO countries could have done as much back then as they do today to help Ukraine."


Putin was fooled, war was planned since forever...USA didn't plan to honor any agreements since dissolve of USSR
Many in Russia are of the opinion (including myself) that the special operation to liberate Donbas should have started eight years earlier. But in fairness, I note that not only Ukraine used this time to strengthen its combat capability, but also Russia - to diversify and minimize the risks associated with Western sanctions. Russia's disconnection from SWIFT, Visa and Mastercard in 2014 would have been a disaster for the financial sector, and in 2022 it went almost painlessly. From a food importer in eight years, Russia has become a major exporter. Therefore, I am not inclined to dramatize about the hypocrisy and duplicity of Merkel, in this world everything happens only on time.

Perhaps it should have started 8 years earlier. But Putin was trying - and still is - to out-trade the US. And he is doing it, too... considering the countries that are wanting to join BRICS.

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December 14, 2022, 02:02:13 PM
https://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/absolut-unerwartet-putin-zeigt-sich-enttauscht-von-merkel-wegen-ausserungen-zur-ukraine-9006844.html

In the interview published on Thursday, Merkel literally said: "And the 2014 Minsk Agreement was an attempt to give Ukraine time. She also used this time to get stronger, as you can see today.”

According to Merkel, Putin could easily have overrun Ukraine in early 2015. "And I very much doubt that the NATO countries could have done as much back then as they do today to help Ukraine."


Putin was fooled, war was planned since forever...USA didn't plan to honor any agreements since dissolve of USSR
Many in Russia are of the opinion (including myself) that the special operation to liberate Donbas should have started eight years earlier. But in fairness, I note that not only Ukraine used this time to strengthen its combat capability, but also Russia - to diversify and minimize the risks associated with Western sanctions. Russia's disconnection from SWIFT, Visa and Mastercard in 2014 would have been a disaster for the financial sector, and in 2022 it went almost painlessly. From a food importer in eight years, Russia has become a major exporter. Therefore, I am not inclined to dramatize about the hypocrisy and duplicity of Merkel, in this world everything happens only on time.
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December 14, 2022, 01:03:13 PM
One of the major reasons for the war is the fact that the US has bio-warfare labs in Ukraine...

No, it's because Putin invaded Ukraine.  US doesn't have any bio-warfare labs in Ukraine. 

So, you think that your reason is the only reason, right? My point was the US bio-labs in Ukraine... labs that they don't want taken over by russia. All you have to do is search on it to find out where some of them are located. Try https://duckduckgo.com/?q=location+of+the+US+bio-labs+in+Ukraine&t=ffab&ia=web.


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December 14, 2022, 04:32:50 AM
One of the major reasons for the war is the fact that the US has bio-warfare labs in Ukraine... labs that are doing bio-research. What bio-research? Let's watch the video at the site and see if we can figure it out. After all, we wouldn't want Russia to stop our bio-lab research, now would we! And heaven forbid that it would fall into Russian hands. After all, we couldn't have found a safer spot, far away from Russia, for this kind of research, now could we?



Looks like it's real and they aren't playing around when it comes to that kind of huge amount of money involved in this operation. I never thought in my life that I see such news where they are actually having the forbidden experiment for their own advantage and let's just hope that they are not fully ready yet to be executed because we are really doomed if that's gonna happen. Damn! man, I really hate being chased by Zombies. That's why they have been using their resources to help Ukraine

Though I'm not really a hundred percent sure about this it makes sense that they won't spend that much for medical reasons rather it's for something more important I guess.
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December 13, 2022, 10:35:47 PM
One of the major reasons for the war is the fact that the US has bio-warfare labs in Ukraine...

No, it's because Putin invaded Ukraine.  US doesn't have any bio-warfare labs in Ukraine. 
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December 13, 2022, 06:12:13 PM
According to Merkel, Putin could easily have overrun Ukraine in early 2015. "And I very much doubt that the NATO countries could have done as much back then as they do today to help Ukraine."

Putin was fooled, war was planned since forever...USA didn't plan to honor any agreements since dissolve of USSR

Poor Putin, feeble foolish dictator, always doing what evil NATO tells him to do, and failing miserably.

Or perhaps you're making shit up again.

Not me, but Angela Merkel
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December 13, 2022, 05:50:03 PM
One of the major reasons for the war is the fact that the US has bio-warfare labs in Ukraine... labs that are doing bio-research. What bio-research? Let's watch the video at the site and see if we can figure it out. After all, we wouldn't want Russia to stop our bio-lab research, now would we! And heaven forbid that it would fall into Russian hands. After all, we couldn't have found a safer spot, far away from Russia, for this kind of research, now could we?


Ukrainian Bio-Labs Funding


The Biden administration passes a $40 Billion dollar aid package for Ukraine. Buried within that spending bill are an additional $50 million dollars appropriated for for the Department of Defense for "Research, Development, Test and Evaluation." Why is the Department of Defense spending $50 Million dollars on research inside of an active war zone? On this episode of the Whistleblowers we take a look at what we know about the existence of bio-labs in Ukraine with journalist & author Patrick Lawrence.


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December 13, 2022, 04:42:28 PM
https://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/absolut-unerwartet-putin-zeigt-sich-enttauscht-von-merkel-wegen-ausserungen-zur-ukraine-9006844.html

In the interview published on Thursday, Merkel literally said: "And the 2014 Minsk Agreement was an attempt to give Ukraine time. She also used this time to get stronger, as you can see today.”

According to Merkel, Putin could easily have overrun Ukraine in early 2015. "And I very much doubt that the NATO countries could have done as much back then as they do today to help Ukraine."


Putin was fooled, war was planned since forever...USA didn't plan to honor any agreements since dissolve of USSR
Nice interpretation of interview. But actually, consequences that we have today is result of Merkel and other Western politics decisions. Like sucking Russian gas pipe without having other suppliets made Europe heavy dependent on Russian gas. Too positive attitude towards Russia. And actually, when Russia occupied Crimea and invaded Eastern Ukraine, Europe gave time for Russia to become stronger. Sanctions that they imposed then was complete joke. Reaction wasn't harsh enough.

It is false logic ("Ukraine made itself stronger, thus they were not going to comply" False, Ukraine had all reasons to get stronger since the RF had shown clear intent of using violence to achieve its objectives).

The Minsk agreements are pretty much an unconditional surrender and a treaty that is imposed like that does only hold while the balance of power holds. There have been many comments already on who broke what in the agreements. Adolf Putin is not neutral to this.
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December 13, 2022, 04:19:05 PM
https://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/absolut-unerwartet-putin-zeigt-sich-enttauscht-von-merkel-wegen-ausserungen-zur-ukraine-9006844.html

In the interview published on Thursday, Merkel literally said: "And the 2014 Minsk Agreement was an attempt to give Ukraine time. She also used this time to get stronger, as you can see today.”

According to Merkel, Putin could easily have overrun Ukraine in early 2015. "And I very much doubt that the NATO countries could have done as much back then as they do today to help Ukraine."


Putin was fooled, war was planned since forever...USA didn't plan to honor any agreements since dissolve of USSR
Nice interpretation of interview. But actually, consequences that we have today is result of Merkel and other Western politics decisions. Like sucking Russian gas pipe without having other suppliets made Europe heavy dependent on Russian gas. Too positive attitude towards Russia. And actually, when Russia occupied Crimea and invaded Eastern Ukraine, Europe gave time for Russia to become stronger. Sanctions that they imposed then was complete joke. Reaction wasn't harsh enough.
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December 13, 2022, 02:05:34 PM
According to Merkel, Putin could easily have overrun Ukraine in early 2015. "And I very much doubt that the NATO countries could have done as much back then as they do today to help Ukraine."

Putin was fooled, war was planned since forever...USA didn't plan to honor any agreements since dissolve of USSR

Poor Putin, feeble foolish dictator, always doing what evil NATO tells him to do, and failing miserably.

Or perhaps you're making shit up again.
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December 13, 2022, 12:48:44 PM
^^^ But it was the way that Putin was fooled that counts.

Putin was attempting to win the world over by free and honest trade. He knows that the world doesn't want war. He also knows that the threat of what his nukes can do to the world will maintain reasonable peace. But Putin was fooled by believing that things like Biden, the Dem leaders, and the world banking system wouldn't go to all-out war

And that is what we are looking at. We are staring into the abyss of World War for real, because the evil leaders of the US and the world banking system would rather die than lose the world... even than losing it through fair and honest trade... like Putin was trying to do.

Of course, this means that the people of the world were fooled, just as Putin was, into thinking that the US leaders and the banking system wanted fair trade. What they are looking for is ownership... of the whole world... and they will get it or destroy the whole world trying.

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December 13, 2022, 03:47:33 AM
https://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/absolut-unerwartet-putin-zeigt-sich-enttauscht-von-merkel-wegen-ausserungen-zur-ukraine-9006844.html

In the interview published on Thursday, Merkel literally said: "And the 2014 Minsk Agreement was an attempt to give Ukraine time. She also used this time to get stronger, as you can see today.”

According to Merkel, Putin could easily have overrun Ukraine in early 2015. "And I very much doubt that the NATO countries could have done as much back then as they do today to help Ukraine."


Putin was fooled, war was planned since forever...USA didn't plan to honor any agreements since dissolve of USSR
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December 11, 2022, 02:25:03 PM
^^^ The elite control by the promise of money to those they control. People understand that money means value. But they don't always understand that value doesn't always mean money.

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