Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 199. (Read 73750 times)

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Kherson Left Bank deserves a 10/10 from what I can see.  Civies were given re-settlement options anywhere they wanted to go, anything which was fit to tow was removed, and there were zero losses in the military ranks....

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Stuff as usual. Even retreat of Russia is considered as win.
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If you think about it, Ukraine really hasn't captured anything in a real fight.  Yes, they re-occupied areas that the Russians didn't want any more or where just decoys strategically, and of course the Ukroids/Western sponsors made a big deal about it in their pathetic sort of low-grade propaganda way, but I cannot think of anything of significance that they flat out won in Bakmud-style hard combat.

Latest word is that Ukraine themselves are evacuating Kherson after figuring out the hard way which was pretty obvious to every thinking person; It's a loser at this point in time and will be as long as Russia can easily destroy anything which moves on the West Bank and will likely do so for quite some time.  And, of course, if anyone destroys the dam the whole place is wiped clean as though by the wrath of God.

One reason Ukraine might be abandoning Kherson City is that they might be going to have another go at the dam in order to fuck with the water supply to Crimea, but it would be very NaZiocon to keep the population in place at gunpoint just because it's the kind of thing they do.  The Russians certainly knew that which is why the resettled the decent elements of the population before pulling out.

Have you abandoned your whole "the war is fake, the whole thing is being orchestrated by the global elite and the outcome is pre determined" conspiracy theory?

How will this war ever end if Russia will never leave Crimea and Ukraine will never cede Crimea?If Ukraine attempts to retake Crimea will Russia openly declare war on Ukraine and carpet bomb it or simply try to defend it from within which has proved to be a futile tactic against an impressive Ukrainian offensive?Both sides seem to be well matched on the battlefield.Is there anyone here with any military experience who could give some input?

On that topic, it's interesting to note the evolution of the last phase of the Russian decoy operations (the pull-out).  It's pretty complicated given the op-sec considerations, PR considerations, etc:

Kiev area was a disaster and nobody is saying that one was worth bragging about.  They lost significant kit and persons killed not to mention the poor locals who didn't have a chance against the jackal-like 'friends and neighbors'.  It was so bad that there was widespread sackings and suspicions that the Russian intel people were in on it.

Kharkiv went pretty well, but they left to many good Ukroid people behind for the Ukrainian Secret Police Nazis to have their way with which was quite sad.  Some broken down junk was left.

Kherson Left Bank deserves a 10/10 from what I can see.  Civies were given re-settlement options anywhere they wanted to go, anything which was fit to tow was removed, and there were zero losses in the military ranks.  So they say.  Not only that but the abandoned area was well prepared as a killing field (a new Russian specialty) so much so that the Ukroids stuck their nose in, got it bopped, then got out fast.  It's more than possible that the Russian performance here was bolstered by a deal with the West to get a leash on coke-head Zenenskij.   Or maybe he was just on a powerball binge/crash and didn't notice until Ivan was safely across the river.

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None of that is happening, is just the effect of that pill the they sold you after Maths II class.

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A Polish politician believes the Ukrainian missile that struck his country was a “provocation” by Kyiv.

On Nov. 15, a missile struck southeastern Poland, near the border with Ukraine, killing two Polish citizens. Jaroslaw Pakula, chairman of the city council of Lublin in southeastern Poland, believes that the strike clearly came from Ukraine and was a provocation against the government in Warsaw. (Related: Associated Press makes major mistake – almost starts World War III with fake news report about missile that killed two people in Poland.)

“Of course, this is a Ukrainian rocket. Of course. This is a provocation on the part of the Ukrainian authorities,” Pakula wrote on his official Facebook page. “The rocket could not be fired 100 kilometers [62 miles] in the opposite direction by mistake.”

Pakula added that the purpose of attempting to provoke Warsaw was to scare Poland and the European Union and get more support for more military aid to be sent to Kyiv. Pakula believes that, instead of telling “fairy tales” about where the missile came from, Polish President Andrzej Duda should respond to the provocation by telling Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that Warsaw “will no longer put up with this behavior.”

“I urge [Duda] to rethink Poland’s position [regarding] this war in the event that the red line is crossed again,” Pakula concluded.

Polish government, NATO believes missile was Ukrainian despite Kyiv’s denial

Zelensky immediately accused Russia of being responsible for the missile attack, claiming that Moscow is attacking Poland and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and trying to blame it on Kyiv.

Official government statements from Ukraine claim that the incident showed the need for NATO to “close the sky” over Ukraine, repeating the demand the country has had since February that NATO should enforce a no-fly zone over Ukraine to prevent Russian military aircraft from defending Russian citizens and military positions in the area.

Unfortunately for Zelensky, both Poland and the entirety of NATO believe that the missile was launched by Ukraine.

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None of that is happening, is just the effect of that pill the they sold you after Maths II class.

If you think about it, Ukraine really hasn't captured anything in a real fight.

 Yes, they re-occupied areas that the Russians didn't want...

Latest word is that Ukraine themselves are evacuating Kherson after figuring out the hard way which was pretty obvious to every thinking person;

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 It's a loser at this point in time and will be as long as Russia can easily destroy anything which moves on the West Bank and will likely do so for quite some time.  And, of course, if anyone destroys the dam the whole place is wiped clean as though by the wrath of God.
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One reason Ukraine might be abandoning Kherson City is that they might be going to have another go at the dam in order to fuck with the water supply to Crimea, but it would be very NaZiocon to keep the population in place at gunpoint just because it's the kind of thing they do.  The Russians certainly knew that which is why the resettled the decent elements of the population before pulling out.

I've got a few 10 year old sock-puppet accounts here.  ...

How will this war ever end if Russia will never leave Crimea and Ukraine will never cede Crimea?If Ukraine attempts to retake Crimea will Russia openly declare war on Ukraine and carpet bomb it or simply try to defend it from within which has proved to be a futile tactic against an impressive Ukrainian offensive?Both sides seem to be well matched on the battlefield.Is there anyone here with any military experience who could give some input?

Congrats on your newly purchased account.

Gas pipeline explosion near St. Petersburg. Any bets as to whether the Americans, James Bond, or Ukrainian bio-engineered geese did it?

Or it could be Russia just being Russia and disintegrating due to its own rot and corruption.



Another gas explosion in Sakhalin, residential building, 9 people dead. The thing about this one is that the building - like 1/3 of Russia, the "super power" threatening other countries with oil and gas blackmail - does not have natural gas piped to it, so residents use propane tanks, which caused the explosion.



Makes one wonder if that whole "Europe is gonna freeze" thing might have been a bit of a projection.

You constantly talk in this thread about the future victories of Ukraine and how clumsily the Russian army is fighting. Apparently, you are very confident in the victory of Ukraine, then I offer you a bet with the following conditions:
- if Ukrainian troops manage to recapture any of these cities before January 1, 2023: Kherson, Mariupol, Melitopol, then I will leave this forum forever.
- if the Ukrainian troops until January 1, 2023 are NOT able to recapture any of these cities: Kherson, Mariupol, Melitopol, then you will leave this forum forever.
If you're not ready for this bet, then maybe you will stop your wishful talking?
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Yet, all that Ukraine had to do was adhering to Minsk 2 and all this would be avoided

Yet, all that Ukraine had to do was adhering to Minsk 2 and all this would be avoided

It did win. I consider pushing one of the biggest armies in the world back to where they came from a win. The war hasn't ended, but according to the Russians there was no war in the first place, so there's nothing to end, or is there?

It always makes me laugh when I remind myself that Russian TV channels were all screaming that there's no war just a little military operation that's going to end soon and months later they say Russia wants to negotiate with Ukraine but Ukraine refuses. Negotiate what? Take the remains of your special operation and GTFO to your side of the border!


As far as I know it does share a border with RF.

As far as I know it does share a border with RF.

he also believed his own propaganda like you do, and said Ukraine will win in May 2022, because USA and UK are backing Ukraine 

Also, yes sure, Poland wants to share a border with the RF. What could go wrong?

Crazy how accurate he was:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwcwGSFPqIo

I find it funny that some people apparently identify as a russian troll so deeply that they seem to get offended when i only criticize russian trolls.

And while doing this they try to took apart meme that i made just to try to point out that i didn't understand the point.

And if someone doesn't (have the mental capacity to) understand: Those aren't real quotes either. I made them up and could have written literally any made up quote and it seems that they would defend it as a wise thing to say that i just don't get.
 
I know this must be hard to process for someone who only blindly trust to that group of people who don't trust anyone either.

That very good point. Russians is very selective. When Western media says something against Russia, it's lies, fakes and etc. But when news fits their agenda, even partially, they quote it as reliable source, often taking things out of context.

I saw some Russian vatniks saying that NATO now should activate 5th article against Ukraine because they attacked NATO country.
About Poland invading Ukraine, it fits their agenda that they use since beginning of war that Poland and Hungary have intentions to share Weatern part of Ukraine.

Poland has provided arms and other military equipment to Ukraine worth at least $1.7 billion, says President Andrzej Duda, who repeated his call for the country’s allies to help it make up the shortfall.