Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 203. (Read 59362 times)

What if we combine those two? What would happened if you showed up in Germany with this flag? Rhetorical question
 




https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-president-fires-security-service-chief-prosecutor-general-2022-07-17/

And before that, Ukrainian law enforcers detain former Crimea SBU department chief

And before that,


Hero spies? Isn't that mutually exclusive? Or just a new term? https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/17857369/ukraine-peace-negotiator-spy-shot-russia-kireev/


And i'm sure i'm missing many other top ranking UA officials killed/arrested/sacked for treason. Is there anyone left in SBU who's not a spy? How do people yelling genocide explain all these treason cases at the highest level of government? If this is happening in the top ranks what's happening bellow them? Orc mind control drugs from Putin?

This video is from October 2021 or so.

Are you talking about a guy in Russian symbols in Ukraine? Then a couple of interesting facts
1. Any propaganda and support for Russia is prohibited in Ukraine, including the public publication of symbols. Guess why? Because Russia is officially recognized as an aggressor country. Because Russia has already committed a huge number of wild crimes on the territory of Ukraine. Propaganda includes an open display, including Russian symbols, as well as communist ones. This is the legal norm in Ukraine. I see nothing wrong with banning regimes that have killed tens of millions of Ukrainian citizens over the past 80 years.
Tell me - for example, in Germany, you walk the streets for a long time with a swastika, an SS flag, and a portrait of Hitler to the cries of "Heil Hitler"? So in Ukraine, the bastard communist and today's bastard-Nazi Putin's regime are prohibited by law. This is fine !
And the person who purposefully demonstrates it is just a provocateur who aims to create a hype.


2. Guess for what actions they give a real criminal term in Russia?
- for the poster "No to war"
- for the poster "I am for Peace"
- for publishing YOUR personal opinion on social networks, against military aggression.
- for the publication of the facts of Russian war crimes committed in Ukraine.
- they even detain you for clothes, if for example your clothes consist of yellow and blue (the colors of the Flag of Ukraine)!
You say this is idiotic and fake? I will answer you - no, in Russia this is a reality!
At the same time, Russia officially says that there is no war, that the Ukrainians are brothers, and that they are fighting against some kind of ephemeral "Nazis, Bandera and the Kyiv junta" - does it sound true?

It would be even more fun to watch this guy running around the square somewhere in Tel Aviv in a nazi t-shirt. I wonder how many minutes would've passed before these good looking gals slaughtered him.

Wonder what would happen if an American with a Ukrainian T-Shirt started running his mouth like that guy did in Moscow and then tried to run after the police started to question him...

I don't have all day to seek vids for you to get your rocks off, but here's a couple showing, 'how they do'.  They being a swath of Ukrainian society apparently.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/kUmwkUWdmIe7/

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/UbkKFEnIVq1w/

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/JMVapFcdfVrK/

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/K2F9ctbPVHi7/

Maybe these peeps were looters, maybe not, but one way or another it's not likely to be very palatable to most Western audiences.  Thus necessitating some preemptive psychological work by those who specialize in such operations.

Honestly, I don't really mind this type of 'justice' when it is 'legitimate'.  Say, the person really is a looter.  Getting caught speaking Russian isn't grounds in my mind for such treatment, and my sense is that my opinion is not shared by certain segments of Ukrainian society.  Especially not the ones sporting Nazi tattoos even if they welcome Hebrew...oddly enough...

Yeah, it's completely normal to get detained Russian flag and making provocations. It's not first time when you post this shit. As I already said, war didn't started on 24th of February. It started 8 years ago when Russia occupied Crimea and invaded Donbas. So, it's not surprising that someone Russian flag isn't accepted positively.
BTW, he is actually Russian and he didn't just ''disappear''
And how about Russia. Now they are so afraid of Ukrainian flag that now they're repainting buildings, fences or benches if it have blue-yellow colour.

You have not read carefully. In my view it is an RF occupied territory belonging to Ukraine. The media is a collaborator of the RF, either voluntarily or by force.

I hope the OP does not get 15 years for saying that it is Ukrainian.




May I see the video of the public sodomy? I have just seen one with an old lady kicking the wrapped dude, but not anything like what you mention.

I mean there is nothing to investigate, hes literally an orphan who was born in Russia was adopted and moved to the USA. If someone filed a report it would be dope (just for lulz of course). I bet hed like the Tver oblast where he from originally.

The vid struck me as staged psy-op bullshit when I saw it some weeks ago.  It being peddled on Jewtube lends even more strength to the hypothesis.

Irregardless of sides, the guy wearing the tee richly deserved to get his ass kicked by either the cops or bystanders (again, if it wasn't some fake-n-gay staged show.)
My guess was that the vid was made to counter the hundreds of vids of Ukranians taping people to light posts and publicly sodomizing them.  That is, trying to make the Ukrainian 'police' look like weak but good guys who respect human rights and dignities.

He is just an idiot. If he is an American citizen, he should be taken to the Polish border, and banned from ever entering Ukraine.
(He would get the same treatment in Poland. Probably would get his ass kicked before police can get to him.)

If he is a Russian citizen he should be detained and investigated as a potential threat to national security.

The funniest bit was when he (the white guy) accused other white guys of being... wait for it... a racist, ROFL.

What a tool?

PS. I would pass his information to the FBI to check him and his circle for potential links to Russian sleeper cells in the US/West.

I thought you didn't believe in germs or viruses.


Yes Branko.  You get detained for mentioning Russia or simply wearing a Russian T Shirt in Ukrain. That's exactly what happened.

So its normal in Ukraine to get detained if you mention Russia, or wear t-shirt like that?
If he would be Russian instead American, would he just "disappear"?

What i need to expalin? A guy wore a t-shirt with russian symbols in Ukraine so he was detained. What does this video has to do with my post you replied to? Are you mad?

American idiot intentionally pisses a bunch of people off in Ukraine, on Ukrainian independence day, rambling about Russia, when the cops question him he intentionally tries to piss them off too, then he tries to run while being questioned, so they chase him and arrest him.

Video is uploaded with caption "American guy detained for wearing Russian flag t-shirt in Odessa, Ukraine" and millions of idiot Putin/Trump fanboys eat it up like Beef Stroganoff.

Well they can't really call it Putins Final Solution to the Ukraine Question, look how it ended for the last guy that tried that phrased his attempt to exterminate a culture.

Well, link a credible German source where your position is explained. There's no credible source because my description is what's happening in Germany currently.
Putin tried to get a monopoly for fossil fuels in Germany to have power over Germany. Unfortunately, some German politicains didn't see what was coming (Putin invading Ukraine and Putin using his monopoly on gas against Germany).
And Lafontaine isn't a credible source, he's a joke.  
At least regarding Ukraine vs. Russia.

If you are referring to my general position, that I'm against Putin's war because it's inacceptable to invade Ukraine and that Putin is commiting war crimes.
Calling reports from various OSINT reporters, reports from various Ukrainian journalists and even various reports from Ukrainians on this forum "Scholz TV" is a little bit far-fetched, isn't it?  

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LOL  
It's funny when a Putin apologist tries to quote a German source, they are always quoting the least credible outlets in Germany.  
BILD Zeitung is based on rage, hate and fear. (or fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD)).
The only purpose of BILD is to sell their newspaper. And yes, what's selling better than "monster winter incoming, no gas for heating, we are all gonna die"  
I'm not saying that all reports from BILD are bad. They have some good reporters on the front in Ukraine.  
Regarding possible gas shortages it is true, that it won't be easy to get independant from Russian gas, but it's important to achieve it.
And Putin will be totally pissed, when it's done and he can write as much propaganda pieces as he wants.
Russia will lose Europe as a purchaser for his gas long-term.

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Sure, there's some sort of... uummmm... "Special Operation" ongoing in Ukraine?  
Right?  
Or maybe he doesn't want to end in prison when he's calling out, what's happening there: Russia INVADED Ukraine and Russia started a WAR.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/08/world/europe/russia-aleksei-gorinov-prison.html

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I've never said, that there should be a "total information boycott to operate in Germany". There should be statements from both sides and people can get information, what's happening there. But there have been cases, when people like Lavrow said 100% bullshit and these statements were not addressed.
Well, you mentioned in your comment, that Lavrow denied that Russia invaded Ukraine.
We all know what is really true. Some viewers (like Lafontaine) might believe Lavrow, that there's actually not a Russian invasion (or whatever bullshit the Russian side has drafted out of thin air).
There was even a Putin apologist on ZDF spreading for 2 hours almost all Kremlin talking points.

So, you can't call it a "total information boycott in Germany".  

But there's currently "total information boycott" operating in Russia, for example when people are calling the "special operation" a "war".  

Please explain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1EqK4suenY

Yes, fully agree! In russian worldview "denazification == deukrainization" or "russification". If you don't want to speak in russian, if you do not want to share russian narratives and cultural "memes" (from Galeev - meme in culture == gene in biology) then you're 100 % nazi.

And "normal ukrainian" is russificated ukrainian (in terms of language and culture)

Come on, it's not even proper whataboutism, if you really think that killing civilians could be justified by the other side doing the same. Donetsk is Ukraine. If you wanted to present an "equivalent" example of evil Ukrainians invading and bombing Russia the same way Putin's army invaded and bombed Ukraine, you gotta find some story about a Ukrainian missile hitting a supermarket in Pskov.

Here's the thing though. Many things in this invasion point to a systematic attempt to destroy and/or oppress Ukrainians as a nation - from Putin's war declaration speech denying even the existence of such nation, to the entire narrative of "denazification", which basically defines every Ukrainian as a nazi.

There is no "equivalent" systematic attempt from Ukraine to destroy Russians as a nation. At most they want Russian forces to leave Ukrainian territory. Twist it all you want but the aggressor is Russia.  No "what about" here.