Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 201. (Read 77449 times)

I already surpass him in this. Actually, you agree with BADecker and don't realize. Why? Because you pick the sides that are handed to you. East: Russia, China, Middle East, etc vs. West: US, EU, CA, NZ, AU, etc. When in actually there is one-side and it is winning over the masses. You think the elite fight amongst one another to a degree yes but they've become more complacent in the current crony capitalist system we have (not true anarchic capitalism). The question is will the masses wake up and realize they are being played by both sides which as I have said before created the problem: Food and Energy along with other artificial resource shortages per green policy and war which will bring about a reaction: from the masses: riots, chaos, shutdowns of local infrastructure and their solution: kneel to the elite and take their deal of CBDCs and full control of your mind and efforts which benefit them.


I have to agree with you on this one. I'm thinking he might walk with the connections he has which will piss people off. I mean look at others that screwed over their customer base and walked off. If they would have arrested him by now then I could see something would happen in a legal sense but he seems to still be a free man and even if they try to arrest him I bet he'll hide out like the others have.

News from alternative reality - Russia destroyed 4 HIMARS systems (again):
https://tass.com/politics/1547125
Probably they already destroyed few times more HIMARS than Ukraine actually have.

So many conspiracy theories in one post. But I think that you forgot to add something about Covid and vaccines that it were made to reduce world population.

So? Quote from 75th edition of Time - ''Person of the Year is an annual issue of the United States news magazine and website Time featuring a person, a group, an idea, or an object that "for better or for worse ... has done the most to influence the events of the year"
Where it's said that it have to be person who have done something positive? Shortly, it's person who was most influential that year. Probably half of these people were selected from negative perspective.

Just to show that it is the US that is making wars, watch what will happen, now. The US and Nato will try to break up the Russia-China alliance any way they can. But first the alliance will get stronger... almost to BRICS strangth.

Note that the Russia-China gas agreement was signed in 2014... same year the US did their major coup takeover of Ukraine.


Russia's mega gas pipeline to China nearly complete - Xinhua

Do you want to grow up to be like BADecker?  Because that's what's going to happen if you don't learn how to let a stupid conspiracy theory go.



Pretty much this.

And even if they had everything in order to issue an arrest warrant today, why would they mess up SBFs busy schedule of incriminating himself every other day to a new major media outlet?  

The war was made by the US trying to destroy Russia through Ukraine. Russia's part was simply to stop the US from taking over Ukraine.

Here is why it's so hard to get to the truth: US legal propaganda - http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/687/video/LEGAL_PROPAGANDA.MP4.

Well i am stepping in. One reason could be that they need to go trough mountain of evidence to even decide if they can extradite / contain him, and should they yet even do that. And, who is going to arrest him? He lives in bahamas and most likely haven't broke any laws in there, and bahamas likes to protect their criminals, if they would give up people easily, many criminals wouldn't choose it as place to live.

Also it was FTX international that failed, didn't accept US customers so i am not even sure if they broke any US law. But this is a huge case and so many people and firms were affected that it can take months or even years to build a case against him. People just think that because ftx went down fast we could arrest him fast as well.

Ok aside from US political party donations and potential aid to the Ukraine which the media seem to want pushed under the rug. Why haven't they arrested SBF for the fraud he committed? Is he too big to jail like the banksters of 2008 we tried to get away from in crypto? Is it because he donated to both parties and by arresting him he can snitch on all of them? Your thoughts?

Sam Bankman-Fried says he donated just as many millions to Republicans as Democrats, but didn’t publicize it because reporters would ‘freak the f–k out’
“All my Republican donations were dark. The reason was not for regulatory reasons, it’s because reporters freak the fuck out if you donate to Republicans. They’re all super liberal, and I didn’t want to have that fight.”
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/30/ftx-billionaire-sam-bankman-fried-dark-money-republicans



Other than the $25 FTX credit for Ukrainian FTX users, all they did was help converting crypto to fiat.  There was no laundering because Ukraine never sent anything back.  Everything that was donated to the addresses shared by government officials were converted to fiat and deposited directly into Ukraines National Bank.  Also, FTX was only involved for about a month in March/April and was only involved in exchanging a couple million of the couple hundred million.  It's just a stupid conspiracy theory from idiots who love to make connections that don't exist but help confirm their bias.

The mainewire article you posted isn't false.  It explains the conspiracy theory can only be true if Ukraine was somehow investing in FTX.  We now know that wasn't happening.  The theory no longer makes sense.  

From the article:


Why The Theory That Sam Bankman-Fried Laundered Ukraine Aid Makes No Sense
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdurot/2022/11/15/why-the-theory-that-sam-bankman-fried-laundered-ukraine-aid-makes-no-sense

Posts spin baseless theory about FTX, Ukraine and Democrats
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-ftx-ukraine-democrats-laundering-996663874380

You and Pixie have a point here. Time is a magazine I'm just saying that they have polarizing people on them. The Time pic reply with SBF was just a minor footnote in what I am trying to say here.



Sounds ridiculous to you but just wait until suddenly your store shelves are empty. The power goes on and off. Your city's water stops working and the world stops. It might get blamed on the war or something else altogether but the bottom line something is amiss just like in 2019-2021 for the pandemic theater. There are shortages and it seems like rather than a war in Eurasia its a war on humanity and the current mostly capitalist system since the "pandemic". There is a global consortium that wants humanity to heel to them nation-states are starting to become irrelevant look at the EU as a greater example. I don't want any of this I'm trying to warn you.


Wrong SBF gave money to both parties but mainly the Democrats:

SBF was No. 2 donor to Democrats
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/sam-bankman-fried-ftx-team-among-top-political-donors-before-bankruptcy-11669031663161.html

"Mr. Bankman-Fried was the No. 2 overall top donor to Democrats in the election cycle, only behind George Soros, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Mr. Salame was the No. 11 overall donor to Republicans."


As for the Ukraine....

Sam Bankman-Fried’s FTX Collapse Touches Ukraine, the World Economic Forum, Silicon Valley and Both Sides of D.C.
https://www.themainewire.com/2022/11/sam-bankman-frieds-ftx-collapse-touches-ukraine-the-world-economic-forum-silicon-valley-and-both-sides-of-d-c/

"Sam Bankman-Fried is a name you’re going to hear a lot about over the next year – and rightly so. The implosion of his cryptocurrency empire is like if Enron and Bernie Madoff had a baby, and that baby became the 2nd largest Democratic Party donor on his 2nd birthday while partnering with the World Economic Forum and the Bank of Ukraine."

"According to reporting from Coin Desk, the Ukrainian government partnered with FTX to help convert cryptocurrency “donations” into arms and war supplies. According to some estimates, between FTX and the National Bank of Ukraine facilitated the flow of up to $100 million worth of bitcoin and cryptocurrency for the war effort."

Ukraine Partners With FTX, Everstake to Launch New Crypto Donation Website
https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/03/14/ukraine-partners-with-ftx-everstake-to-launch-new-crypto-donation-website/

"A press release on the Aid to Ukraine efforts reads:

The official website for Aid For Ukraine, an initiative that raises funds from the crypto community for the benefit of Ukraine’s military and humanitarian needs, has officially launched. The initiative is powered by the Ministry of Digital Transformation of Ukraine, FTX, and Everstake. This is the first instance of a cryptocurrency exchange providing a conduit for crypto donations to a public financial institution."

Sam Bankman-Fried, FTX Founder: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
https://heavy.com/news/sam-bankman-fried-ukraine-politics-biden/


No to you its the World Economic Forum and Bilderberg group along with many others:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Economic_Forum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_meeting


Ok I might actually agree with you here (yet disagree with you). Klaus Schwab and Vladimir Putin could be viewed as dictators but we have to listen to them in order to see the bigger picture that is their plans for the world. If you don't have a discourse with people we disagree with then how can we learn new things? If we just listened to those we agree then we would do the same things over and over again.


Yes this a communist plot but the new system will be far worse than communism. You would not have a choice and it will be hard to resist if at all. No this isn't speculation but reality and you aren't seeing the bigger picture. The cabinets are penetrated by these organizations and that is why all of this is unfolding. War, food and energy shortages, pandemics, etc because they want to create the "problem" the public then "reacts" to it and then they come in with the "Solution". So their solutions are no more animal protein or choice of food. You'll eat bugs, weeds and recycled wastewater.


Did I mention Trump at all in my replies to you here? He must live rent-free in your head. He has nothing to do with the Ukraine and is presently a politically, irrelevant person at this time. I don't want any of this at all that is why I'm trying to tell you people about this. I don't want this war, nor the implications of what is happening in the background. Otherwise I would chose not to post at all but most of the ignorance of people on here make me question why I bother.

Here is a link of what I think you are experiencing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echo_chamber_(media)#:~:text=An%20echo%20chamber%20is%20%22an,reflect%20and%20reinforce%20their%20own.%22

No that's just a bs claim without any basis on reality. I might regret this question but who exactly is "Keepin us in line" since you are using quotes?

Yes, let's listen more to lying, misogynic, homophobic, murderous dictators when they didn't want to hear reason in the first place.

Oh the horrors. This literal fiction must be an evil communist plot i am guessing?

Not biased speculation at all?

And why did you link this then? Yes, insects are excellent source of protein.

Yes, vegetarian food is good.

Yeah, this has good points

Who is they? I thought "THEY" wanted us to consume and make profits for them which would be the opposite of owning nothing. This doesn't make any sense but few conspiracies do. Are you talking about Trump followers? Because they seem to want this serfs and nobles thing.

This text needs so much folio that i would need a folio factory to decypher it.

Here's a link that explains what you are most likely experiencing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia

And they deserved it.  Whether you've done good or evil is not considered when deciding who wins.  Just who had the biggest effect on the news of the year.


No, Russia invaded Ukraine because Putin wants to control Ukraine.  You really think there's a secret club that called up Putin and Zelensky and said "we need you go to war with each other and make it look like Russia wants to control Ukraine and Ukraine doesn't want to be controlled by Russia so that we can control the world".   That's ridiculous.



Ukraine used FTX to convert all their crypto donations to fiat.  That's literally all there is to the story.  I don't think SBF even donated money directly to Ukraine.  But if he wanted to, he wouldn't have made it a secret (unlike the dark money donations he claims he made to Republicans).

wow you picked that out of everything I said?!?!? I think this is why I left because there are just so many hopeless people on here and everywhere that believe what they are told. Will the mainstream media make cordless bungee jumping off a bridge a cool thing soon? Will you follow that and cordless bungee jump off a bridge?

George Carlin - It's A BIG Club & You Ain't In It!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyvxt1svxso

Food Prices Set to 'Spike' Again in 2023: How Global Elites' Policies Are Leading to Food Shortages
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_6QT0HK9yA

They also gave the title to Putin in 2007. That was before he became so obsessed with finding nazis in Ukraine that they had to nominate Zelensky to balance things out.

Sure Putin was the problem created by the WEF's direction to do so. Meanwhile Zelensky gets funding from the US, EU, and other western nations to 'fight' them. But the real "solution" against a further awakening western populous is to starve them of food and energy resources by instigating this war. This is to keep us in line as I said...

Putin speaks at Davo 2021 World Economic Forum before the war
https://www.weforum.org/events/the-davos-agenda-2021/sessions/special-address-by-vladimir-putin-president-of-the-russian-federation

I will own nothing and be happy WEF Forbes:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/worldeconomicforum/2016/11/10/shopping-i-cant-really-remember-what-that-is-or-how-differently-well-live-in-2030/?sh=3d27f3c41735

KLAUS SCHWAB Question CANCELLED in CANADIAN Parliament ("penetrating the cabinets of the world")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORFoecIkNEQ

Why we need to give insects the role they deserve in our food systems
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/07/why-we-need-to-give-insects-the-role-they-deserve-in-our-food-systems/

5 reasons we need to start nurturing – and eating – weeds
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/11/weeds-good-food-control-climate-change/

The US must rethink how it uses and reuses wastewater
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/04/wastewater-us-circular-rethink/

They want us to "own nothing and be happy" what does that say about the agenda about the WEF? They want feudalism where we are the serfs, and there are only a few nobles and kings.

I think both Zel and Putin are in on this together because why is Europe pushing its "Green" agenda about disrupting fossil fuel energy sources along with pushing EU farmers off their land? For CONTROL plan and simple they want to control the food and energy so we'll buckle when they want us to. If they really cared they would reinvest in the fossil fuel industry to fund their war with the resources and they would promote more farming to feed a starving war machine. Instead they are doing the opposite. Isn't this counterinitiative to you? They don't want people questioning this instead they just want people to go along with it all. Russia is the bad guy for West and Ukraine is the good guy. While in the East Russia is the good guy and Ukraine is the bad guy. The WEF/UN/elite's influence is to collapse Western government and perhaps even the Eastern Governments of Russia, China and the Middle East so they can bring about a one world government. That is the point I'm trying to make the WEF/UN/Davos/Bilderberg elites benefit because they then have full control over the masses no other governments to barter/bargain with instead the people have to subsist on their dictates/mandates.


Translation: "I believe everything the mainstream media says"

You know that Time magazine had Hitler and Stalin (twice) as person of the year as well... Its not because Putin wants control of the Ukraine our dear elite that run things behind the scenes want control of this world.

Maybe this guy should be included in your post since he laundered I mean "donated" so much to the Ukraine:

because Putin wanted to control Ukraine.

That's why this war happened.

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Easiest decision Time has made in recent memory...

A good example of this was the fact that when KGB turned into FSB, people weren't fired. They stayed in their seats because it costs a lot of money to train a spy as well as a killer.
They can play around with names and flags but Russian Federation is still the good old Soviet Union. The name could no longer be used not because they weren't soviet anymore, but because there was no more union.

Fun fact: Gorbachev died this year. He was the last president of the Soviet Union and lived long enough to see Russia bleed and lose the most people and armament since WWII, 5 times more than they lost in Afghanistan, back when they still were fighting under the red banner.

Elite? Who is that then? Putin? Because he is the one to blame for invasion and preventing grain production/shipments. And we in EU need to pay more for energy because were totally not prepared for this when russia cut us off. Now we will probably have some blackouts in the winter to remind of that. You really haven't thought about this trough. This war is bad for everyone and there will most likely come caps with electricity bills as well so how is that benefiting energy companies? And who benefits when citizens have no buying power exactly?

All this chaos is just from russian playbook of having war against everyone, creating chaos in EU benefits them and they have been doing it for so long

So, Russia has lost a little to Ukraine drones. But Ukraine doesn't even have electricity and water to a whole lot of major areas because of Russian drones.

Both sides are learning. But Russia has way more resources for pushing drones... except that the US moves more drones into the Ukraine.

While the US might not be feeling a formal, physical attack like Russia has just now, the US economy is gradually being destroyed. But Russia is simply moving to other areas of economy... selling to other countries than the sanction countries.

But the point is, Ukraine is being destroyed.

It seems that air attacks in general are at the moment exceeding the defensive capacity in general. Anti-air is expensive and cannot cover all territory, but just vital points and perhaps cities. Meanwhile, cheap IKEA drones can be cheaply be sent by the hundreds, so even if 80% are lost it does not matter.

Having said that, these attacks are a weapon of destruction, but not really a weapon of conquer. It seems that the RF is trying to force a diplomatic hand rather than real military gains.

So this war happened to cause chaos in the markets triggered by our dear elite to make us plebs pay more for energy and food. The Ukraine produces large amounts of grain and Russia produces large amounts of oil and natural gas energy. How can I prove my point do you ask look at the Netherlands and EU where they block farmers from protesting draconian measures to do away with farming.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/dutch-farmers-dump-manure-garbage-on-roads-to-protest-planned-emission-reductions

https://thefederalist.com/2022/12/06/dutch-government-takes-next-step-in-its-climate-crazed-crusade-against-nations-farmers/

What these factors have in common is control over the masses through expensive food and energy for absolute compliance with anything. You think 2019-2020 is bad? I'm sure its about to get worse because that is their playbook until 2030 per the UN's Agenda 2030.