Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 303. (Read 73604 times)

Is the perfect size for an early alert radar, six to eight S-400 batteries and, given the need, a few nuclear silos.

It is also the perfect size for an early alert radar, a couple of Patriot batteries and, given the need, a THAAD or some form of earlier interceptor.

Now that we are talking about it... Putin may not be as worried about having nukes near his territory, but rather having a possible current secret or future system of early interception of Nukes. Nukes are very difficult to intercept, in the late stage we are talking objects of 1m diameter going a several times the speed of sound and accelerating at several G's. In the early stage this may actually be possible. I am guessing a lot here but... could be the case.


100 km? Are you sure? Anyway, yes these are modern artillery and there seems to be very good geoloc passed to them. Now that I think of it, they may have used NATO guided shells, specific for this smaller targets. That would explain the amazing precision. They do not look like the shells that can actually kill 2 tanks with one round.


However, it is a completely different thing how the tanks react to a hit. At first, they are unlikely to know if it is artillery, a drone, an MANPAD or a Stugna-P or even a land mine. However, no matter what it is, the only thing that is clearly wrong is to sit in there. Tactical Cannon Fodder sent there by a soulless leadership.

Victory parade in Mariupol, Ukraine. 09 may2022
https://www.bitchute.com/video/UyWrfnhvkmLO/

These howitzers have a range of 24 km up to 100 km depending on the charge they use. You can hardly escape being hit in the open, and since there are mostly inexperienced soldiers in armored vehicles/tanks, they are very easy targets. If you watched the video then you can see that some tanks are trying to go forward, but one was destroyed in motion (2:50), while only a few were saved by returning to the shelter of the settlements they passed through before.

With the fact that more and more smart weapons are coming into the hands of Ukrainians and that they are being trained to use them, Russia's losses will be greater than before.

Income potential for the Ukrainian postal service too.

The island is quite small though. I wonder what happens when it's all covered in imaginary downed Bayraktars. I hope it warps through a wormhole into the Red Square.

Ooops... I took me a while to realise. Snake Island will be used as the bait for the Russian navy in the B.S. There is no intention to "re -capture" in the short term, just to make it look like it could actually be captured and destroy anything getting near by. Quite strategic giving it's proximity to Romania and other countries in the Balcans. Short of a Cuba.


This is what modern artillery does by the looks of it. This is not "barrage" or 100 shells one hit tactics nor a second world war shut and cross fingers - this is tank located, tank blasted.

There seems to be much doubt on the tank group on what to do, something like "hey looks like Boris's been hit. Let's stop right here, to present a better target ourselves".

This is the third time I have to answer this question. It seems that you are not reading this topic carefully enough before answering something here, which is generally a violation of the Politics branch rules.

US-sent M777 howitzers have finally been used, and the video shows them successfully destroying 7 of 11 Russian tanks in one convoy. I would say that this is a great result for the first time, and when the Ukrainian soldiers train a little better, I believe it will be even more precise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9ZTR6yC6O4

No, I meant the one in Kyiv.  The one that would be naive and foolish to think wouldn't happen.  Why didn't they have one there?  That's rhetorical, of course.  The reason is because the Russian military lost that battle.  I'm just curious how much you're willing to twist yourself to not admit it.  It's tough to deflect such an obvious black and white situation. 

Leads me to think that they may not even need sanctions of components. Their own corruption works perfectly well.

There seems to be a very wide distance between the fancy last gen. missiles and some of the jets and the general state of the Russian ground troops.

Except there is video evidence of Russia losing multiple boats, SAMs, and a helicopter, but there's no evidence of Ukrainian losses and it wouldn't make sense for them to even attempt sending troops or equipment there when they can safely attack Russians remotely.

More Russian MoD fantasies. Destroying Ukrainian Bayraktars for the the third time, and airplanes for the second time. I think tanks and boats are into the second round as well.

Edit - Meanwhile the glorious Russian military is inventing new ways to use rotten capitalist technologies because glorious Russian technologies are too advanced I guess:

Snake island is a territory of Ukraine that right now is being used a a place to deploy Russian soldiers that need to die for nothing. If you insist that Ukraine is not heroic at this point, you should go there a see for yourself chairborne soldier.

There is no particular reason to "hide" advances. Both sides are actually making minor advances in different fronts but overall there is nothing decisive.

This is the same island whose Ukrainian defenders sent the Russian ship to hell and then died heroically. Then it turned out that they were captured and were exchanged. Then the island was controlled by Russia, but a few days ago Ukraine launched an operation to liberate it. It seems that Ukraine has already lost several missile boats, planes, helicopters and bayraktars there, Russia also has losses, at least one helicopter. Now the island is gray on the maps, its status is uncertain. Why Ukraine had to spend so much effort to capture this island is beyond me. Theoretically, the island can be fired upon by the new M777 howitzers with some types of long-range ammunition, it is located 40 km from the nearest coast and about 56 km from Odessa.

Perhaps Ukraine is tritely trying to divert attention from the painful defeat in the Donbass, after losing control over Popasna.

It was one of those amusing fabrications that the Western media got involved in early on.  Like the 'Ghost of Kiev' lady who took out a whole Roosian air wing in her modified Pitts Special fighter plane (with graphics supplied by a video game.)

In the Western press, the Ukrainian 'defenders' told the Rooskies to F-off, mounted bayonets, grabed their entrenching tools, and fought to the last man.  In reality, they surrendered and were returned to Ukraine with a promise to not participate in the struggle any more.  Probably most of the neglected the pledge (at gunpoint from the swastika guys) I would guess, and was chalked up as an example of the early false hopes that the Russians had about the disposition of the Jewish funded CIA-run enemy.

Answer, the Russians or their proxies did not have it prior to the war.  From what I can tell they had it but don't have it now.  The (rather questionable) story from the Russian side is that the fought off an attack recently, but then abandoned the island anyway.  Add this to the list of things which make me wonder how much of this whole conflict is made up out of whole cloth on BOTH sides of the info war.

I didn't follow closely, who kept Snake Island before special operation started, and who is
keeping it now?

Running out of missiles, that is unlikely. Being able to replace the ones used without access to any advanced microchips, that is more than unlikely. Sanctions are slow, but persistent.

The use of missiles depicts a situation in which that is the only option and certainly an inadequate one. These are very expensive and are a weapon of choice for a certain range of targets that are high value, strategically important and are clearly located and researched (for example, sinking the Moskva is a perfect use for missiles).

Using a missile to hit a civilian building actually reveals that Putin's Psychos cannot use anything more "appropriate" near Odessa. To put it plainly: a couple of artillery shells do nearly the same effect at a tenth of the cost and the effects can be better predicted and evaluated. Putin's army has not run out of missile, it has run out of steam.

Mobilisation would be a solution, but Putin knows the political cost of doing so: Recognising before his own that Russia is a belligerent nation in an ongoing war and getting bodybags / plenty of human ashes delivered to the door of Russian mothers and widows.

Options are very limited for Putin and none of them are good - just no worse than others.

RE Wali, I take it as a personal experience and for what he says, Ukraine needs to make better use of this type of experts. The good thing is that at least they are sober, not like the unmotivated and homesick youngsters that Putin is sending to the front.


Sure... they were training at a shopping centre. While people also did their shopping before being massacred.

I agree, there are looses on both sides in Snake Island. Ukraine seems to be loosing grenades and drone bombs while Putin's Army seems to be loosing cannon fodder young Russian soldiers and equipment.

As of now, this Island is probably the most photographed spot on earth along with the Eiffel Tower.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hF8ZNkLLLY

You can run but you cannot hide...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJV40LM-4TA



My take is that these are not lies, from their point of view. Russia does not recognise these waters as Ukrainian, the ship is permanently in the Black Sea and the unfortunate young sailor may have the victim of an accident (e.g. burned by the flames) and his location has not been determined because either there is not enough of him left or because nobody really cared where the guy ended.

Do not die for Putin - there is no reason to kill yourself going to Ukraine.

Victory Day in Russia is a great national holiday, and you will not be able to spoil it with your impotent poisonous fantasies.

Don't have enough helicopters and jets to show at the air parade because half of the air force is being dismantled for scrap by Ukrainians and the other half is busy bombing cities. How are we going to hide it?
Say that it's too cloudy today! Nobody's going to ask any questions. They know where questions lead.

A single remote message with information that has not been confirmed does not make the entire channel an unreliable source. With this approach, you will not have any sources at all.

This joint conviction has far-reaching legal implications. The Kresy Restitution organization managed to collect information about 100,000 (according to other sources, more than 160,000) Polish heirs and property owners in Western Ukraine.

The parade in Moscow took place yesterday as usual, except that they did not begin to disperse the clouds for the air show. Putin did not declare a general mobilization and the Crimean bridge was also not damaged, so I have nothing to please you with.

I appreciate your optimism! It seems that Russia should have run out of missiles in early March.

Rumor has it that a hypersonic missile flew into the hotel where the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who were trained in firing from the American M777 howitzer, lived, but I cannot find an exact confirmation. Something strange is also happening around Snake Island, it seems there are losses on both sides.

This is an old video, since then Wali's opinion has changed a lot. A sniper has little chance in a situation where the Russians use artillery instead of sniper rifles.

Fuck off with your copy pasta is what I think.

Today's update:

- Odessa has taken several missile strikes. Putin's Psychos The Russian Army has gloriously destroyed a mall to de-nazify the people who where shopping inside and made the world a little more inhuman than before. Hypersonic missiles were used to avoid the air defences and alarms did not sound before impacts.
- Kalibr missiles are likely to be used, as the air defences in Odessa seem to take good care of anything cheaper.
- Apparently a cyberattack succeeded in changing the headlines of Russian digital TV to: - Ukraine seems to have some success near Kharkiv, with a salient attack that has recovered a few villages. Seems like Putin's army is having trouble. Will this end in Belgorod?
- Another glorious attack by Putin's Psychos killed 60 in a school.
- Azovstal continues being pressed, and continues holding in Mariupol.

On the political front, the EU is trying to get Slovakia, Czechia and Hungary to agree on the Petroleum decoupling with Russia, to be progressive during the next six months. It will be a difficult negotiation but it is certainly worth it for the impact that will have on the war finances. As it usually happens with the EU, the response is always a bit slow and sometimes a bit weak, but it is a good start for the total future decoupling from Putin's Russia energy.