Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 33. (Read 75389 times)

What can you expect. Mess with anybody or any country, and get the results. Russia has been way more patient with Ukraine than they deserve. Probably the Kharkiv strike was Ukraine doing it as they have so many times. In fact, that was what started the war a couple of decades ago in the Donbas region... Ukraine against their own people.

You throw up some pictures without their story. However, when you ask for war, that's what you get. And accidents happen in war, even when they aren't meant to. If you can't fight in a war, surrender... or at least back off.

But you know that. You know how happy you are when Ukraine goes and kills a bunch of Russians. So, quit being a 'holier than thou' a**h***.  Russia Is Not Our Enemy - https://ronpaulinstitute.org/russia-is-not-our-enemy/


Russia's Capture Of Pokrovsk Could Reshape The Conflict's Dynamics

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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russias-capture-pokrovsk-could-reshape-conflicts-dynamics
Authored by Andrew Korybko via Substack,

The head of neighboring Mirnograd's military administration bluntly said:

"Don't wait. It will not get better, it will only get worse. Leave", and then admitted that "The enemy is advancing faster than expected."

The Associated Press cited local commanders who blamed Russia's swift gains on their side's poorly trained conscripts.

One of them claimed that "Some people don't want to shoot. They see the enemy in the firing position in trenches but don't open fire. ... That is why our men are dying…They don't receive even the lowest standard of training required for our (combat) actions." An unnamed soldier also lamented that "The main problem is the survival instinct of newcomers. Before, people could stand until the last moment to hold the position. Now, even when there is light shelling of firing positions, they are retreating."
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BA, look at this. This is the government of Ruzzia that you are defending. Look well, and tonight, after you prayers, dream of the children burnt.

Georgia:



Syria:



https://uploads.guim.co.uk/2022/03/17/Dekstop-Aleppo.mp4

Chechenia



Kharkiv

I am sure it will benefit whoever has the facility intact and full of oil. To profit from the price you must keep the oil, it is not sellable pre-burnt or as smoke. It does not move the jet fighters nor the tanks either if it burns before getting to them. Not to mention that this is probably the moment in which Ruzzia needs more oil for self-consumption for  this stupid war.

It seems like the targeted destruction of some early warning radars (I published a few pics a month or so ago) is paying off not. The airport in Volgograd is burning crazy all over, the 28 drones must have hit the fuel depots and possibly many other things.

I guess you are going to argue that this benefits Ruzzia because it raises the price of planes an Ruzzia sells planes?

Well, the price of the ferries for transport in Crimea is also on the raise according to your theory.

https://x.com/KOvsianyi/status/1826912895021494724

Sources say this was the last remaining ferry / railway usable to supply Crimea from Kerch. Ruzzia aparently is not using the bridge for supplies - perhaps is too risky.

So Russia should set all of its refineries and oil depots and possibly oil wells on fire then. That'll bankrupt those pesky Ukrainians.

You are forgetting two major things.

Ukraine tried its best, but that's all they have. But Russia is barely starting.

Russia is trying its hardest to downplay the role that Russia had in the USSR. Russia wants peaceful trade with the world... not Stalin-like force.

PUTIN: Ukraine Tried, But Failed, To Attack Russian Nuclear Power Plant in Kursk - https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/putin-ukraine-tried-but-failed-to-attack-russian-nuclear-power-plant-in-kursk

I spoke with old person who was in wars he said russia is not soviet anymore - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-spoke-with-old-person-who-was-in-wars-he-said-russia-is-not-soviet-anymore-5507162


How Sanctions Against Russia Are Collapsing The EU’s Economy

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https://greatgameindia.com/how-sanctions-against-russia-are-collapsing-the-eus-economy/
Europe's economy is facing serious trouble. Business failures in the European Union (EU) rose by 3.1% in the second quarter of the year. This follows an even bigger increase of 4.5% in the previous quarter. Despite this worsening situation, the EU is sticking with its tough sanctions against Russia, which seem to be making things worse for Europe.

Let’s break it down:

A Wave of Business Failures

In Greece, the number of businesses going bankrupt has skyrocketed by 133%. Lithuania and Slovakia also saw increases of 16.7% and 7.6% in business closures, respectively. Meanwhile, Italy is struggling with a massive public debt that hit a record €2.94 trillion in June 2024. The country’s debt has grown by €30.3 billion in just one month.

The Sanctions Backfire

The EU has imposed a whopping 19,500 sanctions on Russia, hoping to hurt Russia’s economy. But these sanctions are having the opposite effect. Instead of weakening Russia, they’ve caused serious economic problems for the EU.
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This will lead to increase in oil price, and guess who benefits from oil price increase, Russia or Ukraine?

I suggest you take the offer.


It looks quite the opposite.  What you are looking at there, in the black smoke, is a billiion size investment in infrastructure and fuel burning. Some sources are saying that Ruzzia is really going down the hole economically.

^^^ Oh come on, paxmao . You know that while Ukraine is futzing around in one little area, that the Russians are almost chuckling at their pathetic attempts.

Sure, some tiny area of Russia is hurt a little. But Russia has barely been fighting, while Ukraine has essentially nothing left.


Putin designates Russia a “safe haven” for those seeking to escape liberal values, offers Westerners easy residency

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https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-08-22-putin-designates-russia-safe-haven-escape-liberal-values.html
Russian President Vladimir Putin has designated his country a “safe haven” for those living in Western countries who no longer want to be subjected to “destructive neoliberal ideas.”

A newly signed decree will give any foreigners who wish to trade Western liberal ideals for Russian moral values an easy path to residency. It enables them to apply for temporary residence "outside the quota approved by the Russian government and without providing documents confirming their knowledge of the Russian language, Russian history, and basic laws" that aspiring residents are normally subjected to.

By appealing to those who share “traditional Russian spiritual and moral values,” Putin is making a play for the growing number of people in countless democracies who are fed up with liberal leadership and lamenting where it has brought their country. It’s particularly well-timed considering the possibility that Kamala Harris could win the election in November, undoubtedly sending America even further down the leftist spiral that has damaged our economy, national security and morale and seeks to divide and censor Americans.

Three-month visas using the new, expedited process are expected to be issued as soon as next month.

Russia has been trying to attract disillusioned Westerners for a long time

Russian authorities have been on a push to draw conservative Westerners in recent months and years, trying to position the country as a place where traditional values are still respected.

As part of this push, they announced they were creating a “migrant village” outside of Moscow last year where conservative American and Canadian expats can live. One migration lawyer claimed to already have roughly 200 families who wanted to move there for “ideological reasons” at the time. He added that there were “tens of thousands” of foreign people without any Russian roots who were interested in moving to Russia due to their ideology.

The lawyer, Timur Beslangurov, stated: “The reason is propaganda of radical values: Today they have 70 genders, and who knows what will come next.”
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I am going to quote you on the Seim river comments, just for future reference. This is not about an massive surrender, it is about many troops and a very tiny pass - even if you lay 3 or 4 pontoons and they hold a bit. We do not know how many pontoon can be laid, but something tells me that the Ukraine high command does in near real time.

The situation includes innumerable possibilities of encircling troops in localities, as there is not a trench line or a proper front offered in defence. It is the definition of being caught unaware - now, that is what I call a gift.

In the dilema of keep the push in the East or protect Kursk, Ruzzia has choosen mostly to loose Kursk and allow untested troops to be basically be taken as hostages. Either way the result for Ukraine is interesting and, in my view, clearly value for money in terms of resources, loses and gains.

This is the latest attack on Marinovka, Volgograd (AKA Stalingrad). There has been jet plane carnage for sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_Vnytjdcrc

If UA will move its reserves out of Odesa I'm sure RU can find some land in Russia they can stay at for some time.

Doubt UA will be able to take south of Seim River, the element of surprise is gone, usually the more talk you hear the less action will follow. The thing about pontoon bridges is that we don't know how many were put up, and how many RU is able to put up per day, it's not a really wide river, there are also air bridges etc... UA moves have been purely for PR lately, so if they decide to put in more troops and temporary take south of Seim but permanently give up Kherson, i'm sure RU would probably go for that, so the question is what UA would be willing to give up for the south of Seim.

Edit:

  wondering who could possibly be pushing for this and  breaking another round of peace talks for such a brilliant plan


BORIS JOHNSON: After a week of tactical brilliance, Ukraine could finally end this war

He can either let the insult go unavenged – impossible – or else he will be forced to retake the ­salient, village by village, with waves of conscript troops. What this war has shown so far is that it is far costlier – in blood and ­weapons – to retake a piece of land than to defend it.

So Putin will probably have to divert troops from elsewhere, and the Ukrainians are naturally ­hoping that this will relieve the pressure in the Donbas.

Ahh, right, of course Boris... Well, at least now no one can say that UA didn't try.

Good, I am sure there will be many more gifts in the near future.  

What do you think is going to happen south of the Seim River? I mean, all bridges blown up and drone footage showing three attempts of laying temporary pontoon bridges blasted by drones? One could think that the Ruzzia troops in there may experience some "difficulties" with supplies?

Today, a ferry full of fuel has been blasted near the Kerch bridge. It is also the fourth day in which the massive fuel depot at Proletarsk near Rostov keeps burning. Ruzzian firefighting teams have given up trying to contain it.




https://youtu.be/MT3LGz5yduI?t=12

And it keeps burning...

Marinovka air field has been hit and it is likely a few planes have been successfully "decommissioned". The new Ukrainian drones explode at some altitude and are much more effective against soft targets, such as hangars and planes.

Putin is buying such an expensive bit of real state... I guess he thinks is worth the money (and the lives of others).

progress in 3 days as long as Putin can take the political heat while military works, i don't think RU military could've asked for a better gift than for UA reserves to just willingly leave Donbas and go stay somewhere else (even in RU).

This comment is too little too late. There are plenty of sources of information well away from "western media", many of them using OSINT to provide maps, events and comments. It is as simple as googling or youtubing for these. Milbloggers, NASA OSINT, ... you name it. If you want to verify a claim there has never been an age in which it is easier if it can be seen from space.
The rest of the stuff you wrote is just wishful thinking and weak analysis.

We only have one sided story and it's mostly western media

But we don't know nothing nobody in there and don't see with own eyes.
What it need to be done is to take neutral sides put on table the russia and ukraine take all the evidence and international laws and info of USA RUSSIA satelite photos and all the other info put together all this then judge.

What we know so far ukraine was not in nato not in european union...so those are only facts we need to considering here and what really happens there we don't know the neurtal countries should send their over watchers in there to check evidence and record videos photos and track the activities....right now the ukraine neither russia not right here until they don't sit down all together put on the table all the info and let the WOLRD judge whos right whos is wrong... probably Donald trump Will put ukraine and russia to talk and then TRUMP will judge whos right whos wrong.

Also the latest ukraine missile attacks to buildings was the short distance rockets so smart people will have a lot questions.

Whoever of the russia or ukraine are wrong Will want to destroy the evidence so we see who want peace and who want war it show's the one who want peace got nothing to hide when world judge countries going to in there to start investigation.

So If both countries wrong it means they both want to continue....

Same goes for middle east and Israel war so donald trump will judge Im sure donal trump will be on the judge whos right and whos wrong.

Meanwhile, in a land far far away from where your brain lives called "The Real World of Things that are Actually Happening"....


Ukraine has blown all the permanent and pontoon bridges over the Seim River = depending of the sources, there may be even a full Ruzzian brigade, of regular troops, not conscripts, operationally encircled in the region. There is also a settlement - with an unknown number of Ruzzians - properly encircled in the area.

Lastly, some milibloggers - Ruzzian milibloggers - are saying that there is some Ukranian attacks registered in Zaporizilla, not far from Krinky. Is this panic or maybe we are about to see another "Kursk ineffective offensive".

Seems that the new CIA is the media. Or has the CIA simply taken over the media? They are infiltrating Russia to spread propaganda like they did in Ukraine a couple decades ago... and still are.

The question is, why is Russia putting up with it? If they are sure, why don't they simply wipe at least the media personnel out? Or are the US mercenaries protecting the media that well?


Russia Summons US Envoy Over Presence Of American Mercenaries, CNN Crew In Kursk Region

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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-summons-us-envoy-over-presence-american-mercenaries-cnn-crew-kursk-region
Russia condemned "provocative actions" of both American journalists and US mercenaries spotted on Russian territory in the context of the Kursk invasion.

The foreign ministry in the meeting with US Embassy Chief of Mission Stephanie Holmes issued "strong protest" in "connection to the provocative actions of American reporters who illegally entered the Kursk region to produce propaganda for covering up the crimes of the Kyiv regime."

The statement further said that national law enforcement authorities plan to "carry out the necessary investigative measures" examining the American journalists' work.

Last week a CNN crew filed a report from the heart of the Russian town Sudzha just after the Ukrainian army took it over. It was clear that the CNN journalists were there under the protection of the Ukrainian military, as their words describing a segment indicated:

Chief International Security Correspondent Nick Paton Walsh gained some of the first access to a Ukrainian-held Russian town Friday, to witness their control over the town of Sudzha and the intensity of the fight. CNN was accompanied by the Ukrainian military who reviewed the video without sound prior to release for operational security reasons, yet had no editorial control.

Moscow views his as unauthorized American journalists illegally entering Russia's sovereign territory without permission, ultimately to assist with Ukrainian propaganda under Kiev's military protection.

But among the more interesting charges aimed at Holmes from the Russian Foreign Ministry centers on the alleged presence of US military contractors assisting the Kursk invasion.

The ministry pointed to "evidence that has emerged of the participation of American private military companies on the side of the Ukrainian armed forces during" the offensive into Russia.

While not naming specific companies or firms, Russian state sources have flagged a posting by the American military lifestyle brand Forward Observations Group.
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Seems that the 'Kursk' thing is so puny and ineffective that the Russians are handling it mainly with kids doing their mandatory year and not with contract soldiers, although they are also using units of the truly effective Chechen and Wagner 2.0 forces.  Probably it is the later which are making piles of Ukroid corpses when a good opportunity presents itself.  The actual threat from the Ukroid is now known to be minimal so they can afford to bait them into ripe-for-harvest groupings.

Meanwhile, the mop-up around the rest of the Donestk oblast is that much easier due to the Kursk mis-adventure, and proceeding at an increasingly brisk pace.

The biggest sting to Russia would have to be the NATO weapons and personnel operating in and around old-Russia.  My fondest hope would be that Russia doesn't forget this an responds in kind at an opportune time if/when the natives of the West might benefit from their doing so and realize a 'time of need'.

As for the internal population issues in Russia, my read is that while most of the country is pretty solid, within a couple of major population centers there is a contingent of people who genuinely qualify as Western groupies (pseudo-intellectuals, operatives on globalist payrolls, etc.)  The U.S. has always had the same but in the opposite direction.  Some of this contingent beat feet when the fighting started and the neocon dream of internal revolution within Russia crumbled to dust.  It will be interesting to see how the contingent who fled the country a few years ago are welcomed back.

Yes, I honestly believe that it would be the perfect outcome, not judging on how feasible or likely it might be. Like sending Putin and their courtiers to be judged, perfect outcome may not be likely as of today.


Putin is in Chechenia, trying to squeeze more cannon fodder from their dominions, just as they would do with Ukraine if they ever take Ukraine. He certainly is not going to levy troops in Moscow.

There are news of an encirclement in Malia-Tokmaya (pardon my spelling) in Kursk. This is a locality with a noticeable Ruzzia contingent fully encircled and ready to become an excellent source of trading cards.

HAHAHAHA 

Do you honestly believe this? I am asking without any sarcasm.

Putin is silent, all his lackeys are silent... It seems to me that something powerful is being prepared, maybe a nuclear weapon strike on its territory? After all, Putin definitely does not have the strength to recapture the earth.