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June 13, 2024, 07:14:31 PM
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newbie
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June 13, 2024, 12:14:00 AM
Moreover, if Russia does not like trade relations from the United States, then why did Russia not attack the United States, but attack Ukraine?
The United States began supplying tanks and other serious weapons to Ukraine to protect against Russian attacks after the attack itself, and even then not even in the first year of the war. As always, your chronology of events is not all right.

You know this last question of yours makes me doubt your IQ level.

Why would Russia attack the US when the real immediate danger was Ukraine?

If Russia attacked the US then this would have been the proof that Putin was an imbecile and this would have been just what the US neocons would need in order to succeed in making all the world population believe that Putin was a Hitler.
newbie
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June 13, 2024, 12:03:50 AM
In fact, the principle of a market economy also applies in international trade. Each state buys products at prices and in volumes that are beneficial to it. If it is not profitable for Russia to sell products at a low price, it has the choice not to sell at that price and look for another buyer. No state has the right to start an open war because of this.
The West has been vvery clever at teaching Russia the principles of free market economy.
If the West is following the principles of market economy then why has the Biden administration just imposed 100% import duty on Chinese EV's?

Besides, I want to say and any savvy economists know it very well that the state has a duty to develop economy by subsidizing hi tech industry in the country. if it does that then there is no point in exporting raw materials at the price of an international market.

I read that as soon as the USSR disintegrated the Boeing company paid a substantial bribe to the minister of aviation of Russia and in return he had to watch that the new government of Russia would not give any subsidies to the Russian aviation industry. As a result the aviation industry in Russia was killed by this corrupt minister and Boeing started selling its airplanes all over the world without any competition from aviation industry of Russia.

Later even Russian companies started bying Boeing planes instead of buying the Russian made airplanes.

This was an example of economic sabotage in Russia by the US.

So, the US gave bribes to the right people in the government of Russia in the past 20 years and because of that all and any hi tech industry was killed and Russia started exporting only gas and oil at international prices.

The leaders of the US enjoy telling stories to fools about the magic of a free market economy while the US takes advantage of these fools and derives very high income as a result of a policy of dumbing down politicians of the third world countries.

If you want to better understand how it is done then you need to read the book "Confessions of an economic hitman"  

So please don't tell me stories about the free market economy and all that BS.    
sr. member
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June 12, 2024, 09:29:08 AM

One of the ways to postpone the inevitable collapse inside the US and collapse of the US dollar is by conquering Russia and forcing Russia to ship vast quantities of raw materials to the West  at very cheap prices like it was done in the past 30 years. Putin publicly told to the West long time ago that he did not agree to this kind of unfair distribution of profits by supplying to the West raw materials at very low prices.
US necocons did not like that because this hurt their profits and they started pumping Ukraine with tanks and weapons.
In fact, the principle of a market economy also applies in international trade. Each state buys products at prices and in volumes that are beneficial to it. If it is not profitable for Russia to sell products at a low price, it has the choice not to sell at that price and look for another buyer. No state has the right to start an open war because of this.

Moreover, if Russia does not like trade relations from the United States, then why did Russia not attack the United States, but attack Ukraine?
The United States began supplying tanks and other serious weapons to Ukraine to protect against Russian attacks after the attack itself, and even then not even in the first year of the war. As always, your chronology of events is not all right.
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June 12, 2024, 08:27:57 AM


If Putin had not started this war NATO would have already had military bases in Ukraine with US ballistic missiles aiming at Russia. Therefore, I believe he made a right move.

The path for a state to join NATO takes a very long time, sometimes decades. If at least one state that is a member of this alliance is against it, there can be no talk of any entry.
When the pro-Russian Yanukovych became president of Ukraine in 2010, words about Ukraine’s desire for NATO membership were gradually removed from all government documents, as well as from the law “On the Fundamentals of Domestic and Foreign Policy.” Therefore, at the time of Russia’s attack on Ukraine in 2014, there was not even a remote prospect for Ukraine to join NATO. Therefore, NATO missiles from Ukraine aimed at Russia are complete nonsense.

Was Russia actually not at all bothered by NATO missiles aimed at it from Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia? And now these missiles aimed at Russia from Sweden and Finland are not interfering? Really, you can live with this? Only when Ukraine could join NATO in ten to twenty years did it for some reason become such a global danger for Russia that a decision was immediately made to destroy Ukraine militarily. Maybe the reasons for the attack on Ukraine were still different than these fairy tales about NATO?
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June 11, 2024, 11:57:06 PM

Russia has already lost over 520,000 of its soldiers, more than 23,000 tanks and armored vehicles, about 14,000 artillery systems, 359 aircraft, 326 helicopters and other equipment in the war against Ukraine. Isn’t the price too high for “help in restoring the sovereignty of Ukraine,” which no one asked for? Putin's Russia simply wants to conquer Ukraine and use its resources. And everything else is words of an absurd justification for the seizure of someone else's territory.

Moreover, having started the war, Putin counted on a quick victory, but now he can no longer stop it, since this would mean his death in the literal and figurative sense of the word. So he sacrifices several tens of thousands of Russian lives every month in order to delay his death. But it will come anyway, and very soon.

If Putin had not started this war NATO would have already had military bases in Ukraine with US ballistic missiles aiming at Russia. Therefore, I believe he made a right move.
 
US neocons and democrats in general are in a desperate situation because the US is running a huge budget deficit of 34 trillion dollars and it raises by 1 trillion dollars every 100 days.
Very soon social security payments in the US will no longer be distributed to US citizens. The day of reckoning is approaching rapidly.
One of the ways to postpone the inevitable collapse inside the US and collapse of the US dollar is by conquering Russia and forcing Russia to ship vast quantities of raw materials to the West  at very cheap prices like it was done in the past 30 years. Putin publicly told to the West long time ago that he did not agree to this kind of unfair distribution of profits by supplying to the West raw materials at very low prices.
US necocons did not like that because this hurt their profits and they started pumping Ukraine with tanks and weapons.
newbie
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June 11, 2024, 11:44:12 PM
If you read the news, you might have noticed that Zelensky and Biden do not have very good relations due to the fact that Ukraine does not really listen to US recommendations on many issues of waging war with Russia. This means that Ukraine is pursuing its own policy, although it is largely dependent on the supply of Western military equipment.


Pleae don't tell me stories manufactured for dumbed down electorate. I don't beieve anything written by the MSM.
sr. member
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June 11, 2024, 08:41:03 AM

Ukraine will choose the path of its foreign policy development itself, including which military and political blocs to join and where to send its missiles, and the force, blackmail and threats that Russia has always used in such cases only add to the determination of Ukrainians to defend their sovereignty and independence .

It's not Ukraine that chooses the path of its foreign policy development but the Biden administration. Russia will not allow that to happen.

In reality Ukrainians do not have any sovereignty and independence because they are ruled by the Biden administration,
Hence Putin started this military operation in order to restore  sovereignty and independence in Ukraine. Independence from the West that is.
If you read the news, you might have noticed that Zelensky and Biden do not have very good relations due to the fact that Ukraine does not really listen to US recommendations on many issues of waging war with Russia. This means that Ukraine is pursuing its own policy, although it is largely dependent on the supply of Western military equipment.

Russia has already lost over 520,000 of its soldiers, more than 23,000 tanks and armored vehicles, about 14,000 artillery systems, 359 aircraft, 326 helicopters and other equipment in the war against Ukraine. Isn’t the price too high for “help in restoring the sovereignty of Ukraine,” which no one asked for? Putin's Russia simply wants to conquer Ukraine and use its resources. And everything else is words of an absurd justification for the seizure of someone else's territory.

Moreover, having started the war, Putin counted on a quick victory, but now he can no longer stop it, since this would mean his death in the literal and figurative sense of the word. So he sacrifices several tens of thousands of Russian lives every month in order to delay his death. But it will come anyway, and very soon.
newbie
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June 10, 2024, 12:44:01 PM

Ukraine will choose the path of its foreign policy development itself, including which military and political blocs to join and where to send its missiles, and the force, blackmail and threats that Russia has always used in such cases only add to the determination of Ukrainians to defend their sovereignty and independence .

It's not Ukraine that chooses the path of its foreign policy development but the Biden administration. Russia will not allow that to happen.

In reality Ukrainians do not have any sovereignty and independence because they are ruled by the Biden administration,
Hence Putin started this military operation in order to restore  sovereignty and independence in Ukraine. Independence from the West that is.
newbie
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June 10, 2024, 12:32:31 PM
Are the Russian “brothers” already openly admitting that they want to destroy Ukraine and its people? I think that even the most stupid people in the Kremlin, in the third year of the war, already realized that they would not be able to capture Ukraine, and therefore periodically still change the reasons and goals of such an attack on Ukraine.


I don't think so. Russia is not in any hurry. Russia is doing the job of demilitarization and denazification very slowly and methodically and is carefully watching how the American empire is gradually collapsing. 
sr. member
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June 09, 2024, 11:50:13 PM

Secondly, demilitarization means the desire of the Russians to destroy the armed forces of Ukraine, and denazification means the destruction of Ukraine as a sovereign state and Ukrainians as a nation. If the Kremlin hasn’t understood yet, Biden recently said that Russia will not bring Ukraine to its knees.


Regrattably this must be done because the armed forces of Ukraine have been sold to their US masters. Ukraine is governed not be Zelensky but by Washington. I don't give a f..ck to what this senile Biden tells about Ukraine. 
Biden is a lier and a murderer of Ukrainian people because he wants Ukraine to fight with Russia up to the last Ukrainian soldier.
Are the Russian “brothers” already openly admitting that they want to destroy Ukraine and its people? I think that even the most stupid people in the Kremlin, in the third year of the war, already realized that they would not be able to capture Ukraine, and therefore periodically still change the reasons and goals of such an attack on Ukraine.

Ukraine will choose the path of its foreign policy development itself, including which military and political blocs to join and where to send its missiles, and the force, blackmail and threats that Russia has always used in such cases only add to the determination of Ukrainians to defend their sovereignty and independence .
newbie
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June 09, 2024, 01:08:13 PM

Have you heard such a popular expression attributed to Alexander Nevsky: “Whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword.” This is exactly what will happen to the Russian occupiers.

Yes of course I know this famous Russian proverb. This is exactly what will happen to necocons in Washington who want to  use Ukraine for defeating and subjugating Russia. 
newbie
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June 09, 2024, 01:05:48 PM
Thirdly, Ukraine and Ukrainians have already seen enough of what Russian beasts did in Bucha and other populated areas during their temporary occupation.

The events in Bucha is a lie and a provocation concocted by CIA and fascist Ukrainian nationalists.
newbie
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June 09, 2024, 01:03:51 PM

Secondly, demilitarization means the desire of the Russians to destroy the armed forces of Ukraine, and denazification means the destruction of Ukraine as a sovereign state and Ukrainians as a nation. If the Kremlin hasn’t understood yet, Biden recently said that Russia will not bring Ukraine to its knees.


Regrattably this must be done because the armed forces of Ukraine have been sold to their US masters. Ukraine is governed not be Zelensky but by Washington. I don't give a f..ck to what this senile Biden tells about Ukraine. 
Biden is a lier and a murderer of Ukrainian people because he wants Ukraine to fight with Russia up to the last Ukrainian soldier.
newbie
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June 09, 2024, 12:59:30 PM

Well, first of all,  don’t come to their brothers’ house with weapons and start killing them right away. Those who do this, and the entire Russian people are doing this now, become the worst enemies of the Ukrainians. Therefore, do not impose yourself on the Ukrainians as brothers. You are animals, the ancestors of the Mongol-Tatars.


The Russians came to their Ukrainian brothers because these brothers turned themselves into traitors and sold themselves to Biden and the company. They were about to let their US masters to install NATO military bases in Ukraine with misiles directed at Russia.

This is a treason. That's why Ukraine must be demilitarized and denazified.   
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June 09, 2024, 08:00:19 AM

And your information that even before the war hatred of Russians was incited in Ukraine is nothing more than the fantasies of Kremlin propagandists, who somehow needed to explain to their citizens the reason for the attack on Ukraine. And now this hatred really exists and it is growing, as the Russian occupiers continue to invade the territory of Ukraine and continue to kill its citizens.

No this is no fantasy. It is you who is living in the dream world or rather in the world of Washington lies.
The Russian forces continue to kill those who don't want to be demilitarized and denazified. If the Ukrainian army surrended then there would be no more killings because Ukrainians are our brothers who have been subjected to mass psychosis.
Well, first of all,  don’t come to their brothers’ house with weapons and start killing them right away. Those who do this, and the entire Russian people are doing this now, become the worst enemies of the Ukrainians. Therefore, do not impose yourself on the Ukrainians as brothers. You are animals, the ancestors of the Mongol-Tatars.

Secondly, demilitarization means the desire of the Russians to destroy the armed forces of Ukraine, and denazification means the destruction of Ukraine as a sovereign state and Ukrainians as a nation. If the Kremlin hasn’t understood yet, Biden recently said that Russia will not bring Ukraine to its knees.

Thirdly, Ukraine and Ukrainians have already seen enough of what Russian beasts did in Bucha and other populated areas during their temporary occupation. Have you heard such a popular expression attributed to Alexander Nevsky: “Whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword.” This is exactly what will happen to the Russian occupiers.
newbie
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June 08, 2024, 11:47:42 AM

And your information that even before the war hatred of Russians was incited in Ukraine is nothing more than the fantasies of Kremlin propagandists, who somehow needed to explain to their citizens the reason for the attack on Ukraine. And now this hatred really exists and it is growing, as the Russian occupiers continue to invade the territory of Ukraine and continue to kill its citizens.

No this is no fantasy. It is you who is living in the dream world or rather in the world of Washington lies.
The Russian forces continue to kill those who don't want to be demilitarized and denazified. If the Ukrainian army surrended then there would be no more killings because Ukrainians are our brothers who have been subjected to mass psychosis.
newbie
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June 08, 2024, 11:42:40 AM

What did Russia achieve by attacking Ukraine and trying to destroy it?
Because of this attack, Sweden and Finland became new members of NATO, and Ukraine will join this alliance no later than the end of the war and will definitely direct its missiles towards Russia as its most dangerous neighbor.


Russia does not have any plans to destroy Ukraine. The goal of this military operation is demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine because it was on the brink of installing NATO bases with missiles pointed in the direction of Russia.   
newbie
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June 08, 2024, 11:37:35 AM

You yourself admitted that such a promise, if it existed at all, was given in a private conversation to the first and last president of the USSR, Gorbachev, and therefore such a promise does not have any legal consequences for states.

And such a promise could not even be fulfilled in principle, since according to Article 10 of the North Atlantic Treaty establishing NATO, “The Contracting Parties may, by general consent, invite any other European state capable of developing the principles of this Treaty and making its contribution to the security of the North Atlantic region to join to this Agreement." This means that any European state at any time has the right to express a desire to become a new NATO member, and this issue is decided by all NATO member states, and not just the United States. The US representative had no right to make such a promise, since it was obviously impossible to fulfill.

Listen. I don't care about the Article 10 of the NATO. I don't give a f..ck.

The reality is that NATO has been moving eastward despite the fact that about 20 years ago Putin publicly proposed that Russia join NATO.

When you say that any European state at any time has the right to express a desire to become a new NATO member I see in my mind a corrupt politician of that European state who has been bought off by Washington.
I believe that sooner or later all these corrupt politicians will be voted out of office by their electorate. This will just take some time.

What I do is I paint a real picture whereas you reply formally and anyone with any brain can see that you give a formal reply which does not mean anything. It's just words without any meaning.

Therfore by your reply you acknowledge that the US ia global bully that can do whatever it wants without any responsibility but as soon as someone like Libiya or Russia speaks the truth the US wants to crush him like a fly. But it won't happen this time. Wake up. The age of a great empire is coming to an end.  
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June 08, 2024, 01:28:07 AM

In your reasoning you miss one important point: the US broke their promise that they would not move NATO to the east anymore.
Ukraine was on the brink of setting up NATO military bases that would point their missiles in the direction of Russia.
The US has already placed a number of bio laboratories in Ukraine that were developing biological weapons against Russia.
CIA has been executing massive information campaigns in Ukraine for at least 10 years that turned Ukraine into anti Russia. As a result masses of Ukrainian population have started hating Russia even before the war started.
Every single day any Ukrainian citizen watching TV was bomparded by anti Russian hate.  
What could Putin do with all that threat?

You yourself admitted that such a promise, if it existed at all, was given in a private conversation to the first and last president of the USSR, Gorbachev, and therefore such a promise does not have any legal consequences for states.

And such a promise could not even be fulfilled in principle, since according to Article 10 of the North Atlantic Treaty establishing NATO, “The Contracting Parties may, by general consent, invite any other European state capable of developing the principles of this Treaty and making its contribution to the security of the North Atlantic region to join to this Agreement." This means that any European state at any time has the right to express a desire to become a new NATO member, and this issue is decided by all NATO member states, and not just the United States. The US representative had no right to make such a promise, since it was obviously impossible to fulfill.

What did Russia achieve by attacking Ukraine and trying to destroy it?
Because of this attack, Sweden and Finland became new members of NATO, and Ukraine will join this alliance no later than the end of the war and will definitely direct its missiles towards Russia as its most dangerous neighbor.

And your information that even before the war hatred of Russians was incited in Ukraine is nothing more than the fantasies of Kremlin propagandists, who somehow needed to explain to their citizens the reason for the attack on Ukraine. And now this hatred really exists and it is growing, as the Russian occupiers continue to invade the territory of Ukraine and continue to kill its citizens.
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