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The fact that foreign corporations pay rent in Ukraine much lower than the market price is all just your assumptions, which are not based on anything.


This is the truth and this is not my assumption. It's as clear as a day to me. Please give me proof that the Ukrainian land is leased at a market price. It would be impossible to prove it to me. No way.

You just want everything to be bad in Ukraine. But the standard of living of Ukrainians is much higher than in Russia, where people live well mainly in Moscow, St. Petersburg and several other large cities. Having the largest reserves of natural gas, only 71-73 percent of its territory is gasified in Russia.


No I don't want everything to be bad in Ukraine. Why would I want that when my father was a Ukrainian?
The standards of living in Ukraine have nothing to do with the matter of our argument here.

Ukrainians, of course, do not want to fight with the Russians, as well as with other nations of the world. But in this case, the Russians are attacking and trying to seize as much of Ukraine as possible. Therefore, the right and duty of every Ukrainian to defend their territory and their state from an attack by an aggressor. Moreover, such an obligation exists in every democratic state, and not just in Ukraine. To save Ukrainians from having to fight and die at the front against the Russians, Russia only needs to withdraw its occupation forces from the territory of Ukraine. Then the war will stop and no one will die.


No no no! You are terribly mistaken! Russia is not an enemy but a liberator of Ukraine because Russians and Ukrainians have been peacefully living side by side for centuries. We are one and the same people. It's just that millions of young Ukrainians have been duped by Nazi propaganda during the last 30 years.
It is CIA and US neocons who want to divide Russia and Ukraine and start a war between one and the same people.

The fact that foreign corporations pay rent in Ukraine much lower than the market price is all just your assumptions, which are not based on anything. You just want everything to be bad in Ukraine. But the standard of living of Ukrainians is much higher than in Russia, where people live well mainly in Moscow, St. Petersburg and several other large cities. Having the largest reserves of natural gas, only 71-73 percent of its territory is gasified in Russia.

Ukrainians, of course, do not want to fight with the Russians, as well as with other nations of the world. But in this case, the Russians are attacking and trying to seize as much of Ukraine as possible. Therefore, the right and duty of every Ukrainian to defend their territory and their state from an attack by an aggressor. Moreover, such an obligation exists in every democratic state, and not just in Ukraine. To save Ukrainians from having to fight and die at the front against the Russians, Russia only needs to withdraw its occupation forces from the territory of Ukraine. Then the war will stop and no one will die.

OK. The black soil land has not been bought out but leased to foreign corporations.
At what price was it leased? I believe at much below market price.
As regards the lease of Ukrainian land by France and Norway these countries are US vassal countries and these countries are actively supplying weapons to Ukraine.
So it means that the Western countries have leased Ukrainian land at very low prices and now they are supplying armament to Ukraine by using the profits obtained through leasing of land at artificially low prices.
So as you can see the people of Ukraine are impoverished by Ukrainian elite and foreign corporations that are ripping off the people of Ukraine by leasing land at artificially low prices. .
Ukrainian people don't want to fight and die in the front but they are forced to be used as cannon fodder by the Ukrainian elite. Is this the democacy that you are talking about?
Did the Ukrainian people take part in Maidan in 2013 so that now in 2024 they could be forcibly sent to the front and murdered by Bandera regime? 
The West is attempting to destroy Russia at its expence and at expence of Ukraine.

You see, you do not have any factual evidence that during the events that took place on Independence Square in Kyiv at the end of 2013, the actions of Ukrainians were controlled by the American CIA. This is what Russian propagandists simply want to see in order to at least somehow explain the reasons for the subsequent military invasion of Ukraine.

As for the sale of Ukrainian land and the role of the American company BlackRock in this, I can also disappoint you. Yes, Ukraine is famous for its black soil. The country owns a third of the world's reserves of black soil, which is considered the standard of fertile soil. According to various estimates, there are from 27 to 32 million hectares of black soil in Ukraine.

Since 2001, there has been a moratorium on the sale of agricultural land in Ukraine. In 2020, the moratorium on the sale of land in Ukraine was lifted. Until 2024, only Ukrainian individuals could buy agricultural land, but not more than 100 hectares per person. Starting this year, Ukrainian legal entities can buy land, and the threshold has increased to 10 thousand hectares. Foreigners are still not allowed to buy it. But given that legal entities can be affiliated, this can be considered a form of permission for foreigners.

In Russian and other media, the investment company BlackRock, which manages $8 trillion in assets around the world, is called the main contender for Ukrainian agricultural land, but this is not true.
Over the past two years, the head of this campaign, Larry Fink, has actually spoken with Ukrainian President Zelensky several times. In September 2022, they agreed that BlackRock Financial Markets Advisory could provide free advice to the Ukrainian government on the creation of a reconstruction fund. “The goal of the fund will be to create an opportunity for both public and private investors to participate in the reconstruction and rejuvenation of the market economy in Ukraine by providing fair returns to investors,” Zelensky’s official website reported at the time. In November, BlackRock FMA announced that it had signed a memorandum on this with the Ministry of Economy of Ukraine. In December 2022, Zelensky spoke with Fink again. It was reported that the BlackRock team had been preparing for months to advise the Ukrainian government on the country's recovery funds and that some BlackRock leaders were planning to visit Ukraine in 2023. However, the topic of land was not mentioned.

According to the Californian Oakland Institute, in 2022, of the 4.3 million hectares of land leased by large owners, 3 million hectares were actually leased by a dozen multinational companies. These are, in particular, Monsanto, Dupont and Cargill. Another largest investor is the US pension fund NCH - it leases 450 thousand hectares of Ukrainian land.
In addition, according to Oakland, after the IPO, the largest agricultural holdings in Ukraine are controlled by global investment funds - the American Vanguard Group, the Kopernik Global Investors fund, the NN Investment Partners Holdings group, part of Goldman Sachs, and Norges Bank Investment Management, which manages Norway's sovereign wealth fund.
The second largest landowner in Ukraine is the American private investment company NCH Capital (it has 430 thousand hectares), which operates through a local legal entity, the Agroprosreris company. The third player in the land market, the MHP holding (370 thousand hectares), and the fifth, the Astarta company (250 thousand hectares), are co-owned by the American Kopernik Global Investors LLC.

However, not only Western investors are active in this field. Saudi Agricultural and Livestock Investment Company (SALIC) owns the Mriya agricultural holding with 300 thousand hectares in Ternopil, Khmelnitsky, Ivano-Frankivsk, Chernivtsi and Lviv regions. The Saudi royal conglomerate Continental Farmers Group (also controlled by the Saudi SALIC) leases 195 thousand hectares of black soil. The French agricultural holding AgroGénération has 120 thousand hectares of land.
Source:
https://ko.ru/articles/rokovoy-blackrock-kto-uzhe-seychas-skupaet-ukrainu/

But this is all about renting land in Ukraine. If you know anything about the sale of land in Ukraine to foreign companies in circumvention of Ukrainian legislation, write to us and we’ll discuss it.

If you have facts that the people on Maidan were controlled by the CIA, share such facts with us. It would be very interesting. Instead, constantly write here only political slogans, blaming the USA for everything.


How could I do it? It is impossibe for someone living in another country.
Besides that both of us know that CIA are masters of disguise and political manipulation.  
I just know that the US was behind Maidan because this is very typical of the US.
Victoria Nuland was in Kiev at the time of Maidan. It was orchestrated by her. Everybody knows that.

Your discussions about the spirit of freedom or democracy only make me laugh.
You say that I am blaming the US for any troubles in Ukraine but tell me, my friend, who bought large masses of land in Ukraine? Haven't they been bought off by the US greedy corporations?
What country are Ukrainians fighting for? Do they know that huge masses of land in Ukraine have already been bought by the US? This is not their country anymore. What freedom are you talking about? Freedom to do what? Freedom to live off which land?

Didn't Blacrock buy a lot of land mass in Ukraine? How could they do it without Zelensky? I am sure that Zelensky knows about it and the Ukrainian land was sold to Blackrock not without Zelensky assistance in this matter, he knows about it and profits massively from it.
Therefore he is traitor of Ukrainian people.
At least Putin does not sell the land of Russia to foreign corporations. And if that's the case then Zelensky is many times more a traitor of the country that he rules rather than Putin. Do you understand my logic?  

Yanukovych actually fled Ukraine because of the events that took place on Independence Square in the center of Kyiv. I fully admit this. He thought it would be like in Russia. Indicatively, he will kill a couple of hundred dissatisfied people and the rest will run away in fear. But Ukrainians are not Russians. Ukraine has always had the spirit of freedom, the Cossacks and the Zaporozhye Sich. Instead, one of the Maidan centurions on the square openly declared that at ten in the morning the next day, his hundred would storm the presidential administration building. And the murderer Yanukovych was afraid of popular anger. That same evening, he loaded the most valuable of the loot onto three helicopters and fled to Russia.
Let me remind you that according to the Constitution of Ukraine, power in the country belongs to the people. The people elect the president and have the right to oust him. After Yanukovych fled, free elections took place and the people elected another president.

If you have facts that the people on Maidan were controlled by the CIA, share such facts with us. It would be very interesting. Instead, constantly write here only political slogans, blaming the USA for everything.

There is one more thing that I would like to touch upon.
I have just read that in reply to Washington confiscating the assets of Russian Federation in the amount of about $5 billion Moscow retaliated by seizing the assets of JP Morgan bank in Russia in approximately the same amount.
i have the following suggestion that I want to get across to you and may be you would forward my suggestion on to the Biden administration.
Why wouldn't the US government allocate the Russian assets that have been confiscated to JP Morgan?
Thus all parties would be happy about such an amicable solution to the problem.   

The chronological order of events is of paramount importance because it clearly indicates what happened in Ukraine and who attacked whom and who is defending himself. As soon as Putin and Yanukovych did not succeed in refusing European integration, which the Ukrainian people insisted on, Putin immediately sent troops into the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea, and then into the Donetsk and Lugansk regions.


Stop, stop, stop. Not so fast.
Yanukovich was a duly and legally elected president of Ukraine. He had to to flee from Ukraine because of Maidan that was arranged by CIA. Why don't you acknowledge this?

 
Ukraine has the right to defend itself against a military attack by another state. And if the Russians began to fire at Ukraine from the territory of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, then the response would come to where they were shooting from. This is ordinary arithmetic and the logic of war.


No,no, no. This is a lie. It is the Ukrainian military that started firing upon the territories of 2 breakaway provinces.
Why don't you acknowledge this as well?

During the Second World War, no one accused the USSR of firing into Nazi-occupied territory, which inevitably killed the civilian population. Only Russian propagandists are now focusing on this and deliberately increasing the deaths of the civilian population of Donbass by hundreds and thousands of times in order to justify their aggression and the illegal conquest of the territory of a neighboring state. I would also like to draw your attention to the fact that, according to international law, the aggressor is responsible for the safety of the civilian population of the occupied territories. There were no deaths at all until the boot of a Russian soldier set foot on the territory of Ukraine. It is Russian troops who are bringing to Ukraine the almost complete destruction of cities and villages in Ukraine and the mass death of the civilian population.


What about the intention of the Biden administration to install military bases in Ukraine with missiles pointed in the direction of Russia?
The US gave a promise to Gorbachov in 1990 that NATO would not move to the east any single inch.
This promise was broken by them. What about that? Doesn't this justify the special military operation of Russia on the territory of UKraine?

Actually, you yourself confirm the fact of a military attack on Ukraine by Russia, talking about some kind of punishment of Ukrainians by Putin and Russia by military means. And it’s generally stupid to refute this, since military operations by the Russians are still ongoing on the territory of Ukraine.


Yes that's correct but please note that the ordinary people living in Ukraine are not the targets in this military attack. The target of a military attack is the army of Ukraine and military installations and infrastructure only.
Still government  builidings in Kiyev are not being fired upon.
If Putin were Hitler then the Russian army would murder civilian population in large quantities but this does not take place. Why is that so?
 

The chronological order of events is of paramount importance because it clearly indicates what happened in Ukraine and who attacked whom and who is defending himself. As soon as Putin and Yanukovych did not succeed in refusing European integration, which the Ukrainian people insisted on, Putin immediately sent troops into the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea, and then into the Donetsk and Lugansk regions. Ukraine has the right to defend itself against a military attack by another state. And if the Russians began to fire at Ukraine from the territory of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, then the response would come to where they were shooting from. This is ordinary arithmetic and the logic of war.

During the Second World War, no one accused the USSR of firing into Nazi-occupied territory, which inevitably killed the civilian population. Only Russian propagandists are now focusing on this and deliberately increasing the deaths of the civilian population of Donbass by hundreds and thousands of times in order to justify their aggression and the illegal conquest of the territory of a neighboring state. I would also like to draw your attention to the fact that, according to international law, the aggressor is responsible for the safety of the civilian population of the occupied territories. There were no deaths at all until the boot of a Russian soldier set foot on the territory of Ukraine. It is Russian troops who are bringing to Ukraine the almost complete destruction of cities and villages in Ukraine and the mass death of the civilian population.

Actually, you yourself confirm the fact of a military attack on Ukraine by Russia, talking about some kind of punishment of Ukrainians by Putin and Russia by military means. And it’s generally stupid to refute this, since military operations by the Russians are still ongoing on the territory of Ukraine.

I have found a very interesting copy of a letter sent to Russia from the Ukrainian side of the front by some of those Ukrainians who are sympathetic to Russia and want this war to stop once and for all. These are the real patriots of Ukraine.

Information taken from here: https://m-kalashnikov.livejournal.com/4558295.html

The streets in Ukraine  are now practically deserted. I don’t see any men over 16-18 years old or under 60-65 on the streets. Everyone lays low. The situation on the public transport is similar: there are no men on the trams passing by.

We are already mentally prepared for the Russians to come to Slavyansk. Few of them plan to leave the city. They did not directly state this (the consequences of this are known), but the hints are quite transparent.

The Armed Forces of Ukraine have recruited personnel with pre-war training and highly motivated ones. It is also significant that in a number of places the defense is “collapsing” - which means that there are no longer barrage detachments (anti retreat detachments) there.

There is information circulating that military authorities wanted to attract foreign fighters to the barrage detachments, but they quickly exposed this plan and refused to participate.

The decline in the morale of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was strongly influenced by the fact that more and more people caught by force on the streets are being thrown to the front, and by the fact that the soldiers are actually denied demobilization and rotation, not to mention the amount of “combat” payments. Perhaps a further worsening of the gap between the army and the authorities in Kyiv will result in the surrender of positions, the flight of units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from occupied defense areas, and massive surrenders to the Russian army..."

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“Along with ordinary draft dodgers (hiding at home), we see the new phenomenon such as soldiers leaving the location of a military unit without authorization.

There are currently between 100 and 120 thousands of this type of  episodes. It is also known that a number of programs for training Ukrainian personnel for the Armed Forces of Ukraine abroad are now being phased out, and their training is now being planned to take place directly on the ground in Ukraine. The reason for this is that personnel sent for training abroad leave location of the training centers abroad, cut off all communications, and thus they try to escape to other countries. This happens often..."

So much for a desire of Ukrainian soldiers to fight and die for NATO.

“...Against the backdrop of increasing doubts about the legitimacy of the overdue term of President Zelinsky and the emerging delinquency of the Supreme Council, there are deep doubts that the end of spring, summer and the first half of autumn of this year would not bring about major upheavals in the country. And in this case, it would be extremely logical on the part of the Russian Federation, after president Zelensky powers come to an end, to organize an emigrant government of Ukraine, with a purpose to conclude a number of agreements with it on the future fate of the country (including territorial reorganization), up to occupation of, say, Sumy or Chernigov regions with taking them under  control by this government.

With creation of detachments of Ukrainian soldiers who voluntarily came over to our side under Russian leadership (like Polish Army did during the WW2), etc. Not to mention intensification of a work to paralyze and disintegrate the enemy’s rear through a deep combined air and ground offensive operation, and propaganda campaigns to undermine the rear and front line...

But really smart Russians who have the will, intelligence, and are able to act decisively, without regard to “dear Western partners,” are capable of this. If they took advantage of this now, by mid-late summer the war could finally end...”
So as you can see more and more Ukrainian soldiers do not want to fight and die in this war on the side of NATO because they know that US neocons with Biden at the top are their mortal enemy who want to lead this war up to the last Ukrainian or Russian soldier.


The US and NATO will not prevail in this conflict, you will lose badly and this is inevitable. You should remember your history. Any invasions of Russia were not successful in the past. Napoleon was defeated, Hitler was defeated and NATO will be defeated this time as well.

By the way I vividly remember the day when I first read about the MH-17 Malaisian plane shot down over Donetsk region. Girkin (or Strelkov, that's his second last name) has nothing to do with that incident.
It was clear to me as a day that this was a job done by CIA. Most likely the plane was downed by Ukrainian military and then it was declared to the whole world that the crime was done by Russian military.
This was a provocation carried out by CIA. CIA are experts in this kind of thing.

To expose your lies, it is enough to go through the chronology of the development of events. The first in this chain of military events was the escape on February 22, 2014 of the then President of Ukraine Yanukovych on three military Russian helicopters to Crimea, where, under a lease agreement, there was a Russian military base of the Russian Black Sea Fleet.

  On the morning of February 23, Putin announced his decision to annex the Ukrainian peninsula. Already by that time, in the cities of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, the so-called “little green men” were noticed - professional Russian military personnel without identification marks, preparing a springboard for the seizure of sovereign Ukrainian territory.

On February 27, armed people without identification marks seized the Supreme Council of Crimea and the Council of Ministers of Crimea, hanging Russian flags on them. In a building seized by armed people, local deputies scheduled a referendum “on the status of Crimea” for May 25.

On the night of February 27, the seizure of the Belbek airport in Sevastopol began - about 400 Russian troops occupied it, blocking the entrances to the territory with barbed wire. Russian planes land at the airport, and the movement of Russian equipment is recorded.

On March 1, the leader of the Russian Unity party, Sergei Aksenov, appointed by local deputies as the new prime minister of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, called on Putin to send Russian regular troops to Crimea - by the evening the Kremlin had made a corresponding decision. The Russian military (usually without identification marks) begins an active seizure of Ukrainian military units and infrastructure facilities on the peninsula.

The next day, March 2, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) condemned the military aggression of the Russian Federation and called for an end to the annexation of sovereign Ukrainian territory.



What it is that I lie about? How exactly do I lie?
Do you want to say that Russian speaking Ukrainians were not burned alive in Odessa in 2014?
Do you want to say that there was no artillery bombardment of 2 rebel provinces?



On March 16, at gunpoint from the Russian military, an illegal “referendum” was held in Crimea, the ballots of which contained two questions:
• “Are you for the reunification of Crimea with Russia as a subject of the Russian Federation?”
• “Are you for restoring the 1992 Constitution of the Republic of Crimea and for the status of Crimea as a part of Ukraine?”
At the same time, the “ballot” assumed the answer to only one of these questions and only “yes” - by checking the appropriate box next to the question. Any mark was interpreted as a “yes” answer, while two marks invalidated the ballot. Thus, citizens could vote either “yes” or their answer would be invalidated. https://nv.ua/ukraine/politics/okkupaciya-kryma-kak-rf-provela-feykovyy-referendum-hronika-novosti-ukrainy-50010647.html


I don't believe Ukrainian press. They can't be trusted because following Maidan CIA took the country and dictated who should say what.  


As of 2021, no state has issued official legal acts recognizing Crimea as part of Russia, although official representatives of several states (Afghanistan, Belarus, Bolivia, Syria, Sudan, North Korea) spoke out in support of the Russian position.


I am not interested in hearing opinion of any state on the issue of Crimea. The fact is that Crimea has always been a territory of Russia since 17th century.
The only argument that Ukraine uses is that Krushov gave Crimea to Ukraine in order to simplify bureaucratic procedures.
Krushov could not forsee in 1954 that USSR would disintegrate in 1991 and Crimea would become a territory of Ukraine which would become a separate country under US control that would have Ukraine join NATO, which is a mortal enemy of Russia.
It's just that Krushov made a colossal mistake in 1954 by this edict and the US is using this as a pretext to declare that Putin is Hitler.
The US promised to Gorbachov in 1990 that NATO would not move to the East. That promise was broken.
I believe that in view of this fact Putin did a right thing by annexing Crimea.
I think that Crimea could be returned back to Ukraine in case NATO withdraws from all those Eastern European countries. This seems pretty fair to me.
NATO broke their promise and this was admitted by them. Why doesn't NATO rectify their crime and then Crimea could be returned to Ukraine? How about that?
  

Thus, Russia’s military aggression, as a result of which the Ukrainian Crimean peninsula was seized by force, occurred in February-March 2014. The date of the start of hostilities on the territory of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine is considered to be April 12, 2014, when several dozen people, some of whom had Russian citizenship and had previously participated in the annexation of Crimea, under the command of a former Russian FSB employee Girkin, seized administrative buildings in Slavyansk, Donetsk region . But this is a completely different stage of Russian military aggression. https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%B8 %D1%8F_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D1%8B_%D0%B2_%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B1%D0%B0%D1 %81%D1%81%D0%B5

So who began to seize foreign territory by military means, and is thus the aggressor? Undoubtedly, Putin's Russia.


The chronological order that you refer to does not matter. Why are you talking about it?
Besides I can add that Maidan took place in the end of 2013. As soon as Maidan took place it was clear as a day that this was a coup carried out by CIA. That's why 2 breakaway provinces decided to break away from Ukraine and that's why Crimea was annexed by Russia.
Maidan in Ukraine was a crime commited by the US. Therefore it must be brought to justice and annexation of Crimea was a sort of justice served.
 

To expose your lies, it is enough to go through the chronology of the development of events. The first in this chain of military events was the escape on February 22, 2014 of the then President of Ukraine Yanukovych on three military Russian helicopters to Crimea, where, under a lease agreement, there was a Russian military base of the Russian Black Sea Fleet.

  On the morning of February 23, Putin announced his decision to annex the Ukrainian peninsula. Already by that time, in the cities of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, the so-called “little green men” were noticed - professional Russian military personnel without identification marks, preparing a springboard for the seizure of sovereign Ukrainian territory.

On February 27, armed people without identification marks seized the Supreme Council of Crimea and the Council of Ministers of Crimea, hanging Russian flags on them. In a building seized by armed people, local deputies scheduled a referendum “on the status of Crimea” for May 25.

On the night of February 27, the seizure of the Belbek airport in Sevastopol began - about 400 Russian troops occupied it, blocking the entrances to the territory with barbed wire. Russian planes land at the airport, and the movement of Russian equipment is recorded.

On March 1, the leader of the Russian Unity party, Sergei Aksenov, appointed by local deputies as the new prime minister of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, called on Putin to send Russian regular troops to Crimea - by the evening the Kremlin had made a corresponding decision. The Russian military (usually without identification marks) begins an active seizure of Ukrainian military units and infrastructure facilities on the peninsula.

The next day, March 2, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) condemned the military aggression of the Russian Federation and called for an end to the annexation of sovereign Ukrainian territory.

On March 16, at gunpoint from the Russian military, an illegal “referendum” was held in Crimea, the ballots of which contained two questions:
• “Are you for the reunification of Crimea with Russia as a subject of the Russian Federation?”
• “Are you for restoring the 1992 Constitution of the Republic of Crimea and for the status of Crimea as a part of Ukraine?”
At the same time, the “ballot” assumed the answer to only one of these questions and only “yes” - by checking the appropriate box next to the question. Any mark was interpreted as a “yes” answer, while two marks invalidated the ballot. Thus, citizens could vote either “yes” or their answer would be invalidated. https://nv.ua/ukraine/politics/okkupaciya-kryma-kak-rf-provela-feykovyy-referendum-hronika-novosti-ukrainy-50010647.html

As of 2021, no state has issued official legal acts recognizing Crimea as part of Russia, although official representatives of several states (Afghanistan, Belarus, Bolivia, Syria, Sudan, North Korea) spoke out in support of the Russian position.

  Thus, Russia’s military aggression, as a result of which the Ukrainian Crimean peninsula was seized by force, occurred in February-March 2014. The date of the start of hostilities on the territory of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine is considered to be April 12, 2014, when several dozen people, some of whom had Russian citizenship and had previously participated in the annexation of Crimea, under the command of a former Russian FSB employee Girkin, seized administrative buildings in Slavyansk, Donetsk region . But this is a completely different stage of Russian military aggression. https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%B8 %D1%8F_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D1%8B_%D0%B2_%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B1%D0%B0%D1 %81%D1%81%D0%B5

So who began to seize foreign territory by military means, and is thus the aggressor? Undoubtedly, Putin's Russia.

Do you want to convince us that it was Ukraine that attacked Russia, and therefore, in reality, in this brutal war, Russia is actually the victim?
Well then, give the facts of how Ukraine attacked Russia before Russia, with the help of its Sevastopol military base of the Black Sea Fleet, captured the Ukrainian Crimean peninsula within a few days with virtually no resistance from Ukraine in 2014, since hostilities began from here and then spread to the east Ukraine. Moreover, any previous grievances, unresolved issues and conflicts, and so on, do not matter here. The aggressor or victim of aggression is determined only by the fact of the one who invaded the territory of another sovereign state with his troops, since all issues must be resolved in a civilized, political or diplomatic way.


Do I have to retell you again for 101st time about how the Ukrainian army has been firing at Donetsk and Lugansk since 2014 and and how this a this artillery fire killed many thousands of innocent civilians in those two rebel provinces? Do you know how the people living in those 2 provinces were called by Ukrainian nazies? They were called Colorado bugs. Thus the people living there were dehumanised.
In 2014 a team of fascist neo nazies arrived to Odessa where they burned alive about 64 Russian speaking citizens of Odessa  who publicly spoke out against Maidan.

The people living in Crimea did not want to be terrorised like these people  in Odessa that had been brutally murdered.
And Putin saved their lives by annexing the territory of Crimea to Russia
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Everyone here knows that Crimea has alway been a territory of Russia and it was moved to Ukraine by Khrushov who wanted just to simplify bureaucratic procedures by this edict. One may say that Crimea never belonged to Ukraine.

Do you want to convince us that it was Ukraine that attacked Russia, and therefore, in reality, in this brutal war, Russia is actually the victim?
Well then, give the facts of how Ukraine attacked Russia before Russia, with the help of its Sevastopol military base of the Black Sea Fleet, captured the Ukrainian Crimean peninsula within a few days with virtually no resistance from Ukraine in 2014, since hostilities began from here and then spread to the east Ukraine. Moreover, any previous grievances, unresolved issues and conflicts, and so on, do not matter here. The aggressor or victim of aggression is determined only by the fact of the one who invaded the territory of another sovereign state with his troops, since all issues must be resolved in a civilized, political or diplomatic way.

An acquaintance showed his video from the front line, where body parts of both his soldiers and Russians lay, and said that on this section of the front neither they nor the other side were taking anyone prisoner. The war is quite tough and there they have practically come to terms with the idea that they will not return home alive. Russia made a catastrophic mistake in that once again, as after the 1917 revolution, it set out to conquer Ukraine as an independent state. Then the Bolsheviks managed to do it. But now the situation is different. There is the Internet, there are social networks, and true information instantly spreads throughout the world. Therefore, Ukraine has enormous international support as a victim of aggression.


It seems to me more and more that all of my writings and explanations are falling on deaf ears. One has to be very dumbed down to believe the western propaganda that Ukraine is a victim of Russia's agression,
But this does not surpise me at all because there are millions and millions of dumbed down people in the West.
But I believe that soon these people will see the light and realize that they have been duped bythe Biden administration. Now the US rapidly is being divided into 2 parts hating each other

As regards killings and torturings of Ukrainian prisoners of war by Russian soldiers this might be true in some isolated incidents because this is war and not a walk in the park.But on the whole Russia treats Ukrainians very well. Generally people of Slavic nationalities are quite peaceful and not cruel.

You know how cruel could be people of Asian origin in a war. Just recall the massacre of Chinese women by Japanese soldiers in China or in Korea during WW2. Neither Ukrainians nor Russians are capable of such cruelty.   .
 

Unlike Ukraine, Russia does not allow international organizations access to either prisoners of war or Ukrainian citizens in the occupied territory. This means that Russia has something to hide, and this is a fact. A good appeal to prisoners of war can be made in a staged video, although in reality the situation there is different. The Ukrainian side, using drones, has already recorded many times the execution of Ukrainian prisoners of war immediately after they were captured. Such videos are also released online by the Russian military itself. This was also confirmed by relevant international organizations. Similar videos with executions of prisoners of war can also be deliberately released on the Internet so that the Ukrainian side also shoots Russian prisoners of war and thus encourages them not to surrender.

An acquaintance showed his video from the front line, where body parts of both his soldiers and Russians lay, and said that on this section of the front neither they nor the other side were taking anyone prisoner. The war is quite tough and there they have practically come to terms with the idea that they will not return home alive. Russia made a catastrophic mistake in that once again, as after the 1917 revolution, it set out to conquer Ukraine as an independent state. Then the Bolsheviks managed to do it. But now the situation is different. There is the Internet, there are social networks, and true information instantly spreads throughout the world. Therefore, Ukraine has enormous international support as a victim of aggression.

Here is a link to a good article on the Ukrainian conflict written by Doug Casey:

Doug Casey on the Likelihood of Nuclear War With Russia

https://internationalman.com/articles/doug-casey-on-the-likelihood-of-nuclear-war-with-russia/?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Welcome%20to%20the%20Warfare%20State&utm_campaign=05%2F08%2F2024-%20Non-DDCI%20Buyers-%20Welcome%20to%20the%20Warfare%20State&vgo_ee=Maqn2JCUEt2zhrlb8oTloWsS8AnBZcCn07gdn6BZNA%3D%3D%3AwRJMJyiumCDKTQBN5kvVgb%2Fq818CHl4Q

Here are a few excellent snippets from that article:

As far as Russia annexing Crimea and the regions of the Ukraine in question, it seems to me—from a historical point of view—that would be par for the course. Remember that borders have been flowing and ethnic groups moving for a thousand years in that part of the world. In any event, it makes no sense to take sides in disputes between nation-states. In this case, it amounts to the US sticking its nose into a border war between two shit-hole countries.

That said, being as objective as possible, I’d say that the Russians have a certain amount of right on their side. They’ve been mightily provoked since the Maidan Revolution of 2014 and the attack by the Ukrainian Army on the Donbas. It’s too bad that this is spinning out of control—largely because of US intervention. In a rational world, it would basically be worth a couple of columns on the sixth page of the New York Times and then forgotten.

Vladimir Putin recently gave a speech in which he said:

“The West is ready to cross every line to preserve the neo-colonial system which allows it to live off the world, to plunder it thanks to the domination of the dollar and technology, to collect an actual tribute from humanity, to extract its primary source of unearned prosperity, the rent paid to the hegemon. The preservation of this annuity is their main, real and absolutely self-serving motivation. This is why total de-sovereignization is in their interest. This explains their aggression towards independent states, traditional values and authentic cultures, their attempts to undermine international and integration processes, new global currencies and technological development centers they cannot control. It is critically important for them to force all countries to surrender their sovereignty to the United States.”

Doug Casey: I’ve listened to a number of Putin’s speeches.

It’s fashionable to make him out as being not only the devil incarnate but irrational and somebody that wants to conquer Europe and perhaps destroy the world in the process. But in fact, compared to all of the other European leaders, he’s the most cool-headed, the most thoughtful, and the one with the most perspective.

He is absolutely right when he says that the West is acting as a hegemon. In particular, the US has been exporting dollars for decades—which have allowed it to live way above its means—and control the world by controlling the world’s monetary system. With the dollar accepted as the international reserve currency, backed up by institutions like the World Bank and the IMF, and a giant military with bases in over 100 countries, the US can basically call the shots for other cultures and countries.

You can think as you like, but the fact remains: Russia fires at the territory of Ukraine every day with all possible types of weapons. According to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, 97 percent of such attacks occur on civilian targets. Putin lied before about Ukraine, he is lying now and will continue to lie. Near the frontline zone, Russian troops directly fire conventional cannon artillery at populated areas, destroying the homes of ordinary people every day. Every day, according to morning reports in Ukraine, information is received about the shelling of approximately 120 settlements in the front-line zone with shells and mines. Every day they show the consequences of such shelling, the number of civilians killed and wounded. All this is carefully recorded, including by international experts, and will be presented as evidence at an international special tribunal where Russia will be tried for the genocide of the Ukrainian people.


I believe that this is a blatant lie. Putin does not fire at the homes of ordinary people.

And the Russian citizens are either being fooled, or they just want to hear it themselves. Because even logically, if Russian troops fire about ten thousand shells a day and launch cruise missiles across Ukraine almost every day, then civilians will die from this every day. Some Russians do not want to notice this, others even call for the destruction of more Ukrainian civilians.


Of course some Ukrainians will die from the missiles but this is the cost of a war, collateral damage.
 

But karma will definitely overtake Russia for this. Higher powers are already warning Russians about floods, fires, or other natural disasters. Can you remember that on May 9 there was frost and snow in Moscow? And this is just the beginning. You can’t just attack and kill people en masse, whom you also call one people. The sooner Russia wakes up from Putin's dope, the less punishment it will receive. For the war to end and this senseless massacre to stop, Russia only needs to withdraw its troops from Ukrainian territory. In Ukraine, sooner or later, every Russian soldier will find only his own death.


The sooner the US stops meddling in Ukraine and the sooner the fascist nazies in Ukraine lose their power the sooner peace would come to Ukraine. Many Ukrainians understand that they are guilty in this war by their inactivity and indifference when Maidan took place in Ukraine. If the Ukrainian people would not have let the Maidan happen in Ukraine then all these atrocities would not happen there now.

I believe that sooner or later karma will overtake the US and we will see civil war in the US soon.

You can think as you like, but the fact remains: Russia fires at the territory of Ukraine every day with all possible types of weapons. According to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, 97 percent of such attacks occur on civilian targets. Putin lied before about Ukraine, he is lying now and will continue to lie. Near the frontline zone, Russian troops directly fire conventional cannon artillery at populated areas, destroying the homes of ordinary people every day. Every day, according to morning reports in Ukraine, information is received about the shelling of approximately 120 settlements in the front-line zone with shells and mines. Every day they show the consequences of such shelling, the number of civilians killed and wounded. All this is carefully recorded, including by international experts, and will be presented as evidence at an international special tribunal where Russia will be tried for the genocide of the Ukrainian people. And the Russian citizens are either being fooled, or they just want to hear it themselves. Because even logically, if Russian troops fire about ten thousand shells a day and launch cruise missiles across Ukraine almost every day, then civilians will die from this every day. Some Russians do not want to notice this, others even call for the destruction of more Ukrainian civilians.

But karma will definitely overtake Russia for this. Higher powers are already warning Russians about floods, fires, or other natural disasters. Can you remember that on May 9 there was frost and snow in Moscow? And this is just the beginning. You can’t just attack and kill people en masse, whom you also call one people. The sooner Russia wakes up from Putin's dope, the less punishment it will receive. For the war to end and this senseless massacre to stop, Russia only needs to withdraw its troops from Ukrainian territory. In Ukraine, sooner or later, every Russian soldier will find only his own death.