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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 18, 2023, 09:06:10 PM

I could agree when you say that the Glazer family have messed up with the club. But they don't have any intention to sell the ownership, at least in the near future. Sheikh Jassim Bin Hamad Al Thani of Qatar and Jim Ratcliffe of INEOS were interested in purchasing the club, but in the last few days both of them have come out with statements accusing the Glazer family of arrogance. Qataris are claiming that Glazers have asked a price that is manytimes the fair valuation, while Glazers are adamant that they will not transfer the ownership cheaply. Let's see who blinks first.

So, what's point for glazer to offering manchester united to the investors if the family is not willing to sell the club? The fact that if glazer was a greedy family. This family wants 6 billions for MU while 5 billions can be considered as good amounts of money that being offered by jassim.
Sir Jim is also trying to offer its best price for glazer. If what you said above was true and then glazer should not have an intention to sell the club. it sounds non sense.
Glazer's valuation was actually non sense. Jasim has sent the best price for MU to the glazer. I hope that glazer will able to make a decision regarding the ownership of club. The main problem is there are some members of family refused to sell their shares.

That has become the main problem why jassim is not able acquiring manchester united till this moment.

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Quote from: X-ray on July 19, 2023, 03:13:32 AM

The match between nassr vs celta vigo already ended last night. Ronaldo club being humiliated by celta vigo. Celta vigo was destroying al nassr with 5-0 as the final score.

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Cristiano Ronaldo's Al-Nassr were on the receiving end of a 5-0 thumping in his first pre-season friendly this summer, as they lost to Celta Vigo on Monday night.

Ronaldo played 45 minutes of the match, which saw Marcelo Brozovic make his debut for the Saudi Pro League side. The first half was a goalless draw, but it all fell apart when Celta Vigo opened the floodgates after the break in Faro.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12308627/Cristiano-Ronaldos-Al-Nassr-spanked-5-0-Celta-Vigo-pre-season-friendly-saw-Marcelo-Brozovic-make-debut-Saudi-club.html

It was not surprising me. The fact that if football was a game for 11 players. it's not only 1-2 players in the club. It seems like that al nassr needs to buy more european player.
That being said that if a few good players are still nothing. The team gonna be good if al nassr will buy more european club.

GGWP for al nassr. There must be so many improvements to be made before the first match against ettifaq.

With the money they have and also not closing the possibility of other clubs that are in one ownership by the Public Investment Fund which is also the owner of Al Hilal, Al Ittihad and Al Ahli it is not impossible to bring in more players who play in Europe and of course that is preferred by clubs whose players are targeted by SPL clubs because they get fresh funds especially if the players being targeted are those they really want to sell, but the question will be whether it is possible for a club in SPL to be filled by more than 50% foreign players? , because every league has rules. That is why the leagues in Europe remain at the top because the level of play of their local players is at the same level as foreign players so there is always a balance in the game.
The defeat experienced is an illustration that sports based on teams will be successful not because of one or two players but teamwork.

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Quote from: Fiatless on July 19, 2023, 06:44:29 AM

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BTW, Al Nassr is banned from signing anymore European players, due to a dispute with Leicester (regarding the transfer fee for Ahmed Musa). They were planning to bring Hakim Ziyech and Domenico Berardi to Saudi Arabia.

Al Nassr is banned by FIFA from signing new players until they pay Leicester City a £390,000 debt. This should not be a problem for a financially sound club. They should be able to pay the debt without much stress. Saudi league clubs should also be careful because UEFA is not happy with the way players are moving to the Arabian nation. They can be given a strict punishment if any abnormality is dictated from their financial transactions.

Quote from: X-ray on July 19, 2023, 03:13:32 AM

The match between nassr vs celta vigo already ended last night. Ronaldo club being humiliated by celta vigo. Celta vigo was destroying al nassr with 5-0 as the final score.

It's just a friendly game and a warm up for the next season. Five goals is not a good score but the most important thing is to learn lessons from the game. Al Nassr coach should be able to analyse the game and make the needed changes. The first half was fine with a goalless scoreline but Ronaldo missed a clear chance to put the Saudi side ahead. But it's all good.

Well still wierd that they didnt pay debt they owe to Leicester,for them its nothing and this should be resolved fast. Also the defeat against Celta came in the second half after all of their first squad players left the field plus once they left they got a red card that caused such a big result. But still this shows that this Saudi teams dont have a roster and just got humiliated against a middle spanish team

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 19, 2023, 04:08:18 AM

BTW, Al Nassr is banned from signing anymore European players, due to a dispute with Leicester (regarding the transfer fee for Ahmed Musa). They were planning to bring Hakim Ziyech and Domenico Berardi to Saudi Arabia.

Al Nassr is banned by FIFA from signing new players until they pay Leicester City a £390,000 debt. This should not be a problem for a financially sound club. They should be able to pay the debt without much stress. Saudi league clubs should also be careful because UEFA is not happy with the way players are moving to the Arabian nation. They can be given a strict punishment if any abnormality is dictated from their financial transactions.

Quote from: X-ray on July 19, 2023, 03:13:32 AM

The match between nassr vs celta vigo already ended last night. Ronaldo club being humiliated by celta vigo. Celta vigo was destroying al nassr with 5-0 as the final score.

It's just a friendly game and a warm up for the next season. Five goals is not a good score but the most important thing is to learn lessons from the game. Al Nassr coach should be able to analyse the game and make the needed changes. The first half was fine with a goalless scoreline but Ronaldo missed a clear chance to put the Saudi side ahead. But it's all good.

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Quote from: bering on July 18, 2023, 09:04:41 AM

Christiano Ronaldo was closed the possibilities to return to europe this because he feel comfortable to playing at Al Nassr moreover currently he was 38 years old so with his current age Ronaldo was very doubt his fitness still can able to playing at high level of competitions on Europe so that's why he was decide to staying much longer at Al Nassr

Pre season match for Al Nassr doesn't run well because yesterday they were lost with huge scores 5-0 against Laliga team Celta Vigo although Al Nassr were playing with their best starting lineup with Ronaldo and new player just like Marcelo Brozovic but Al Nassr unable to performing well and this is big alert for Al Nassr and they have to evaluated that loses however Al Nassr has 3 more matches for pre season against Benfica, PSG, and Al Shabab

Everyone knows that Ronaldo is done with playing football at the highest level.
The problem is that he made a butthurt statement about the level of European football going down and the Saudi League being better than the Major Soccer League. Perhaps the Saudi League will become better than the US, Turkish league and the Netherlands league if the Saudi clubs keep buying European and Latin American football players. There's no other way for the Saudi Arabian football to become competitive to any European league. Just throwing money at everything and everyone is a guaranteed way to succeed. Grin

Anyway, Cristiano Ronaldo is slowly turning into a laughing stock with his butthurt comments.

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Quote from: Polkeins on July 19, 2023, 06:04:12 AM

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As for FIFA's punishment, I just found out. It turns out that this is a matter of buying Ahmed Musa who played for Leicester City from 2016 to 2018. Then moved to Al Nassr and helped Al Nassr become the 2018/19 Saudi Arabian League champions. This shouldn't be a problem regarding money, because An Nassr has a lot of money at the moment. Maybe they forget, but this is really bad for the club's image in Europe. In addition to this heavy loss, it seems that they are prohibited from carrying out transfer activities for 3 periods.

Let's see how it turns out for Al Nassr. The most recent information from FIFA is that they have laid out certain conditions to remove the ban on the Saudi club on player registration. First of all, need to settle the debt with Leicester City (probably with penalty and interest). Musa's deal with Al Nassr back in 2018 was worth €16.5 million. They paid the transfer fee to Leicester, but refused to pay around €460,000 in some add-ons. This is not a very big amount for Al Nassr and should be settled very soon (unless there is a dispute).

I think Al Nasr is paying more for training balls than he owes for Ahmed Musa, because Al Nassr find 200 million for Cristiano Ronaldo salary and not finding 400k is some joke.

Apparently, Al Nassr did not agree with the interest or bonuses that they had to pay Leicester and decided not to pay out of principle, because they did not agree with the amount of the debt, and now because of Al-Nasr's transfers the whole situation is in plain sight and apparently still have to pay Leicester 400 thousand, so as not to lose millions.

This issue on sanctions by Fifa on Alnassr is not a problem.They will sort it they're busy in the market now not minding they have been sanction. They just bought Alex Telles from Manchester United and they are still bidding.Once they get all the players they wanted, they will now sort out with Fifa.

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Quote from: X-ray on July 19, 2023, 03:13:32 AM

The match between nassr vs celta vigo already ended last night. Ronaldo club being humiliated by celta vigo. Celta vigo was destroying al nassr with 5-0 as the final score.

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Cristiano Ronaldo's Al-Nassr were on the receiving end of a 5-0 thumping in his first pre-season friendly this summer, as they lost to Celta Vigo on Monday night.

Ronaldo played 45 minutes of the match, which saw Marcelo Brozovic make his debut for the Saudi Pro League side. The first half was a goalless draw, but it all fell apart when Celta Vigo opened the floodgates after the break in Faro.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12308627/Cristiano-Ronaldos-Al-Nassr-spanked-5-0-Celta-Vigo-pre-season-friendly-saw-Marcelo-Brozovic-make-debut-Saudi-club.html

It was not surprising me. The fact that if football was a game for 11 players. it's not only 1-2 players in the club. It seems like that al nassr needs to buy more european player.
That being said that if a few good players are still nothing. The team gonna be good if al nassr will buy more european club.

GGWP for al nassr. There must be so many improvements to be made before the first match against ettifaq.

X-ray they need to add quality player’s because Ronaldo is a big brand I get that but on the pitch he won’t be off much help hence they need to add player’s that can score lots of goals and make the team stronger. Furthermore I was expecting Ronaldo to leave but he’s declared that he’s staying back and it looks likes that the end of his European career.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 19, 2023, 04:59:08 AM

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As for FIFA's punishment, I just found out. It turns out that this is a matter of buying Ahmed Musa who played for Leicester City from 2016 to 2018. Then moved to Al Nassr and helped Al Nassr become the 2018/19 Saudi Arabian League champions. This shouldn't be a problem regarding money, because An Nassr has a lot of money at the moment. Maybe they forget, but this is really bad for the club's image in Europe. In addition to this heavy loss, it seems that they are prohibited from carrying out transfer activities for 3 periods.

Let's see how it turns out for Al Nassr. The most recent information from FIFA is that they have laid out certain conditions to remove the ban on the Saudi club on player registration. First of all, need to settle the debt with Leicester City (probably with penalty and interest). Musa's deal with Al Nassr back in 2018 was worth €16.5 million. They paid the transfer fee to Leicester, but refused to pay around €460,000 in some add-ons. This is not a very big amount for Al Nassr and should be settled very soon (unless there is a dispute).

I think Al Nasr is paying more for training balls than he owes for Ahmed Musa, because Al Nassr find 200 million for Cristiano Ronaldo salary and not finding 400k is some joke.

Apparently, Al Nassr did not agree with the interest or bonuses that they had to pay Leicester and decided not to pay out of principle, because they did not agree with the amount of the debt, and now because of Al-Nasr's transfers the whole situation is in plain sight and apparently still have to pay Leicester 400 thousand, so as not to lose millions.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on July 18, 2023, 05:34:11 PM

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Maybe by bringing in Alex Telles, Al-Nassr's defense can become stronger. Alex Telles is a pretty good defender. He has defended Sevilla on loan since last season. He is a Manchester United player. And it looks like he is included in the list of players that will be released by Man United this season.

Eh, but I just remembered about Al-Nassr's problem with FIFA which has the potential to prevent Al-Nassr from registering the new players they get. Has this problem been resolved by Al-Nassr?

It's not a big deal , Al nassr just needs to pay their bills because there are payments that have not been completed so when they want to bring in new players then the previous problems must be resolved first I'm sure it's easy to solve. Alex Telles is one of the Manchester United players who failed to break into the main squad so he was loaned out and released this season , I don't know what price Manchester has set for this player.

Well, hopefully the problems experienced by Al-Nassr can indeed be resolved quickly. Because supposedly with Al-Nassr's current financial condition, of course, the arrears of unpaid debts will be quite easy to settle. If this is not resolved quickly, the FIFA sanctions will become more difficult to withdraw. But after seeing that Al-Nassr is still active in the hunt for new players, I think Al-Nassr is quite confident that he can solve this problem with FIFA.

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Quote from: Luzin on July 19, 2023, 04:25:01 AM

As for FIFA's punishment, I just found out. It turns out that this is a matter of buying Ahmed Musa who played for Leicester City from 2016 to 2018. Then moved to Al Nassr and helped Al Nassr become the 2018/19 Saudi Arabian League champions. This shouldn't be a problem regarding money, because An Nassr has a lot of money at the moment. Maybe they forget, but this is really bad for the club's image in Europe. In addition to this heavy loss, it seems that they are prohibited from carrying out transfer activities for 3 periods.

Let's see how it turns out for Al Nassr. The most recent information from FIFA is that they have laid out certain conditions to remove the ban on the Saudi club on player registration. First of all, Al Nassr need to settle the debt with Leicester City (probably with penalty and interest). Musa's deal with Al Nassr back in 2018 was worth €16.5 million. They paid the transfer fee to Leicester, but refused to pay around €460,000 in some add-ons. This is not a very big amount for Al Nassr and should be settled very soon (unless there is a dispute).

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Quote from: X-ray on July 19, 2023, 03:13:32 AM

The match between nassr vs celta vigo already ended last night. Ronaldo club being humiliated by celta vigo. Celta vigo was destroying al nassr with 5-0 as the final score.

It can be seen how the quality of the Saudi Arabian League is still below Spain, of course this reflects the strength of Asia is still below the European level for football. But I know a lot of Asians who have good quality and are in demand by top European clubs.

Quote from: Sithara007 on July 19, 2023, 04:08:18 AM

BTW, Al Nassr is banned from signing anymore European players, due to a dispute with Leicester (regarding the transfer fee for Ahmed Musa). They were planning to bring Hakim Ziyech and Domenico Berardi to Saudi Arabia.

As for FIFA's punishment, I just found out. It turns out that this is a matter of buying Ahmed Musa who played for Leicester City from 2016 to 2018. Then moved to Al Nassr and helped Al Nassr become the 2018/19 Saudi Arabian League champions. This shouldn't be a problem regarding money, because An Nassr has a lot of money at the moment. Maybe they forget, but this is really bad for the club's image in Europe. In addition to this heavy loss, it seems that they are prohibited from carrying out transfer activities for 3 periods.

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^^^^ How many more players do they need to buy? Apart from Cristiano Ronaldo and Marcelo Brozović, they have Latin American players like Talisca and David Ospina. The margin was just shocking. RC Celta de Vigo is not even one of the top sides in La Liga. Last season they finished at 13th place. Anyway, it was good to see Marcelo Brozović making his debut for Al Nassr. BTW, Al Nassr is banned from signing anymore European players, due to a dispute with Leicester (regarding the transfer fee for Ahmed Musa). They were planning to bring Hakim Ziyech and Domenico Berardi to Saudi Arabia.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on July 19, 2023, 03:11:44 AM

One good thing about Saudi teams spending too much money to buy expensive players from top European teams is they give good money to these European teams, mostly when a player joins Saudi teams, it means he can't play in the European teams anymore and they can make a good amount of money by selling the players they don't need. They usually invest this money to buy other players or grow younger talents.

Do you mean a European club releasing players over 30 to the Saudi Pro League is a good move? Of course it is right to reduce the burden of expenses and provide space for young players to get more playing minutes. It is one way to generate income for the club and the proceeds can be used to buy younger players. Isn't that like running a football business, moreover looking for profits through buying and selling players is a step that is most often done. Every club from Europe or Asia has its own goals and programs to carry out its vision and mission and of course the ultimate goal is to win a championship trophy.

I think it's only natural that these former players move to the SPL at their old age. While enjoying a large salary they can relax while still playing actively, and of course they can improve the SPL League for the better.

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The match between nassr vs celta vigo already ended last night. Ronaldo club being humiliated by celta vigo. Celta vigo was destroying al nassr with 5-0 as the final score.

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Cristiano Ronaldo's Al-Nassr were on the receiving end of a 5-0 thumping in his first pre-season friendly this summer, as they lost to Celta Vigo on Monday night.

Ronaldo played 45 minutes of the match, which saw Marcelo Brozovic make his debut for the Saudi Pro League side. The first half was a goalless draw, but it all fell apart when Celta Vigo opened the floodgates after the break in Faro.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12308627/Cristiano-Ronaldos-Al-Nassr-spanked-5-0-Celta-Vigo-pre-season-friendly-saw-Marcelo-Brozovic-make-debut-Saudi-club.html

It was not surprising me. The fact that if football was a game for 11 players. it's not only 1-2 players in the club. It seems like that al nassr needs to buy more european player.
That being said that if a few good players are still nothing. The team gonna be good if al nassr will buy more european club.

GGWP for al nassr. There must be so many improvements to be made before the first match against ettifaq.

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One good thing about Saudi teams spending too much money to buy expensive players from top European teams is they give good money to these European teams, mostly when a player joins Saudi teams, it means he can't play in the European teams anymore and they can make a good amount of money by selling the players they don't need. They usually invest this money to buy other players or grow younger talents.

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Quote from: borovichok on July 18, 2023, 08:40:16 PM

Quote from: Volgastallion on July 18, 2023, 06:38:43 PM

Manchester United after Sir Alex Ferguson exit was allways a shit in the trade markets, in both ends, in players who brougth and their performance and also in their exchange, always having net loses in every window of transfer.

And we are like 10 years of this, its not so unpredictable they sell the club.

Manchester United is lagging behind in terms of improvement; the Red Devils are working hard to return the club to its stronghold home of won victories. The Alex Ferguson era was extremely different from what we are experiencing presently at Old Trafford; everything changes with time, but United's success is entirely and exclusively dependent on their past achievements when it comes to ratings, which are very complex. The club should be sold quickly; the Glazers family has messed up the club, and it's time for them to depart and be replaced by a more promising and ambitious individual who can take the club to new heights.

I could agree when you say that the Glazer family have messed up with the club. But they don't have any intention to sell the ownership, at least in the near future. Sheikh Jassim Bin Hamad Al Thani of Qatar and Jim Ratcliffe of INEOS were interested in purchasing the club, but in the last few days both of them have come out with statements accusing the Glazer family of arrogance. Qataris are claiming that Glazers have asked a price that is manytimes the fair valuation, while Glazers are adamant that they will not transfer the ownership cheaply. Let's see who blinks first.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on July 18, 2023, 06:38:43 PM

Manchester United after Sir Alex Ferguson exit was allways a shit in the trade markets, in both ends, in players who brougth and their performance and also in their exchange, always having net loses in every window of transfer.

And we are like 10 years of this, its not so unpredictable they sell the club.

Manchester United is lagging behind in terms of improvement; the Red Devils are working hard to return the club to its stronghold home of won victories. The Alex Ferguson era was extremely different from what we are experiencing presently at Old Trafford; everything changes with time, but United's success is entirely and exclusively dependent on their past achievements when it comes to ratings, which are very complex. The club should be sold quickly; the Glazers family has messed up the club, and it's time for them to depart and be replaced by a more promising and ambitious individual who can take the club to new heights.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 17, 2023, 04:30:32 PM

Doubtful. I didn't hear that MLS became the most watched league (and I don't remember anything about Ligue 1 either). Individuals are important, but the average is the most important, although I am sure that if the Saudis could somehow lure Mbappe and Haaland into their league now, it would explode interest in them.

That reminds me with the article posted by redbull https://www.redbull.com/us-en/most-watched-soccer-leagues.
The ronaldo's effect has brought so many new viewers to the SPL. It's bullshit to call that SPL became the most watched league. Saudi can send billions offer for mbappe and haaland. We will gonna see whether they have an interest in taking such offer or not.

MLS and SPL have been entering into the most watched laegue ranking in the world. I hope that SPL will able to enter into top 10 most watched league after saudi clubs were doing crazy things by signing so many great players.

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Quote from: Docnaster on July 18, 2023, 05:51:54 PM

Talking from the side of Manchester United, they have never made profitable business. I don't know if the problem is from their scout department. Starting from the sell and rebuy of Pogba till date, they have never bought low and sold high.

For Alex Teles, Saudi move is perfect for his career as he found it difficult to break into Manchester United defence. He is not such a super defender, so clubs seeking his services will be few in Europe. Saudi will be nice for him.

Manchester United after Sir Alex Ferguson exit was allways a shit in the trade markets, in both ends, in players who brougth and their performance and also in their exchange, always having net loses in every window of transfer.

And we are like 10 years of this, its not so unpredictable they sell the club.

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Quote from: Docnaster on July 18, 2023, 05:51:54 PM

Talking from the side of Manchester United, they have never made profitable business. I don't know if the problem is from their scout department. Starting from the sell and rebuy of Pogba till date, they have never bought low and sold high.

For Alex Teles, Saudi move is perfect for his career as he found it difficult to break into Manchester United defence. He is not such a super defender, so clubs seeking his services will be few in Europe. Saudi will be nice for him.

Transfer fees usually refer to market value Alex Telles' current market value is €7.5 million maybe around that price €5-10 million, Manchester United will not press the price because they no longer need this player but he had to leave immediately and be free from the burden of the club, besides that Man United will get additional funds for other purposes. By the way the deal is not final Al Nassr is still in the process of checking documents after all is done then the next stage is the fee and salary.

Anyone watching the Al Nassr vs Celta Vigo match? Al Nassr was destroyed by Celta Vigo with a score of 5-0 This is pre season match to monitor the composition and strength of the team so is this the reason Al Nassr is looking for a defender? conceded 5 goals very embarrassing even though their opponents were a european team so Al Nassr needs to strengthen the line of defense because this line is their main weakness since last season. I'm guessing Alex Telles won't be the last one, they'll be looking for another defender before the transfer window closed.

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