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I think they can bring as many star players to their league as they want, but it will not be of interest to most people, it will only be talked about and forgotten for 1-2 days.
Their league has no value and I don't think it will.

European leagues will always become the major league that paid a lot of attentions from football fans. Arabian league was just trying to blow up its name by bought so many great names that have very big popularity and it works now.
You can't even deny the fact that even if arabian investors were starting to acquire more and more EPL clubs. People knew it so well. People were still putting a lot of attentions to the ronaldo even though he has been playing for nassr for a half of season.

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We will never see the quality of football in Europe there.
America and China did the same thing, but I don't think much has changed.

There's no need to become as good as european league. SPL wants only to increase its engagement with all of footballers fans in the world. This will help SPL to get more considerations from all of major investors in the football too.
American and chinese investors are not as crazy as arabian investors. As you can see that even MU will be acquired by qatari investors as well.

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I agree that nothing can compete with the European Leagues but the Saudi League is different from other leagues like China and America.
Saudi has a pretty good football federation so there is still a big possibility that the Saudi League will develop in the future.
Even though they are not yet able to compete and surpass the European Leagues, at least the Saudi League is increasingly known and liked by football fans.

The Asian and European castes are different in football and Europe has dominated football for a longer time, so it will be very difficult for the SPL to compete with them because this is a different regional zone.
The Saudi club have a lot of money and that's what makes their football so alive players will be attracted here because of the tempting offers, it won't be surprising to me that some other young players will be here in the future as the SPL competition is getting tougher in their league and also players are getting paid tall.

And the Arab League has actually succeeded in attracting the attention of the world of world football after successfully bringing in Cristiano Ronaldo by Al-Nassr last season. And this season another big name from the world of football has also returned to the SPL. He is another legend from Real Madrid, namely Benzema. and of course in the future maybe the SPL will be in the spotlight more and maybe it will be able to compete more with European football competitions. Sometimes financial strength can change things so quickly. But even so, it's still from the European League that has always produced more star players since long ago. but nowadays many Asian players are also starting to take part in European clubs. and that means Asian football will see improvements in the future, including from the Arab League, of course.

The efficiency that Saudi football has shown in a short span of time is nothing less. Football is basically a European game but it was not a concern of countries like Saudi Arabia a few days ago. Their journey has just begun and they are now quite popular in the football world. After all SPL is a small league at the moment but in the next few years it can be known as a bigger football league than top European leagues. Saudi Arabia attaches great importance to football. If they maintain this importance then it is not impossible to reach the number one position in football in the future because they have great financial support.

Correct. And it seems that the enthusiasm for football in the Arab plains is increasingly showing a fairly high spike. So it's not surprising that one day the Arab leagues will become increasingly known, one of which is the SPL. And actually at this time we ourselves have realized that some clubs in Europe today are even owned by people from Arabs. mainly from qatar and saudi arabia. So do not be surprised if one day other clubs in England and in other leagues will be acquired by Arab businessmen who are indeed very rich. even now Man United is in the process of negotiating to buy its shares by Sheikh Jassim bin Hamad bin Jassim. and the latest news even mentions that the buying process has taken place, just waiting for the official opening.

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I agree that nothing can compete with the European Leagues but the Saudi League is different from other leagues like China and America.
Saudi has a pretty good football federation so there is still a big possibility that the Saudi League will develop in the future.
Even though they are not yet able to compete and surpass the European Leagues, at least the Saudi League is increasingly known and liked by football fans.

The Asian and European castes are different in football and Europe has dominated football for a longer time, so it will be very difficult for the SPL to compete with them because this is a different regional zone.
The Saudi club have a lot of money and that's what makes their football so alive players will be attracted here because of the tempting offers, it won't be surprising to me that some other young players will be here in the future as the SPL competition is getting tougher in their league and also players are getting paid tall.

And the Arab League has actually succeeded in attracting the attention of the world of world football after successfully bringing in Cristiano Ronaldo by Al-Nassr last season. And this season another big name from the world of football has also returned to the SPL. He is another legend from Real Madrid, namely Benzema. and of course in the future maybe the SPL will be in the spotlight more and maybe it will be able to compete more with European football competitions. Sometimes financial strength can change things so quickly. But even so, it's still from the European League that has always produced more star players since long ago. but nowadays many Asian players are also starting to take part in European clubs. and that means Asian football will see improvements in the future, including from the Arab League, of course.

The efficiency that Saudi football has shown in a short span of time is nothing less. Football is basically a European game but it was not a concern of countries like Saudi Arabia a few days ago. Their journey has just begun and they are now quite popular in the football world. After all SPL is a small league at the moment but in the next few years it can be known as a bigger football league than top European leagues. Saudi Arabia attaches great importance to football. If they maintain this importance then it is not impossible to reach the number one position in football in the future because they have great financial support.

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Quote from: zuzie on June 14, 2023, 10:16:35 AM

I agree that nothing can compete with the European Leagues but the Saudi League is different from other leagues like China and America.
Saudi has a pretty good football federation so there is still a big possibility that the Saudi League will develop in the future.
Even though they are not yet able to compete and surpass the European Leagues, at least the Saudi League is increasingly known and liked by football fans.

The Asian and European castes are different in football and Europe has dominated football for a longer time, so it will be very difficult for the SPL to compete with them because this is a different regional zone.
The Saudi club have a lot of money and that's what makes their football so alive players will be attracted here because of the tempting offers, it won't be surprising to me that some other young players will be here in the future as the SPL competition is getting tougher in their league and also players are getting paid tall.

And the Arab League has actually succeeded in attracting the attention of the world of world football after successfully bringing in Cristiano Ronaldo by Al-Nassr last season. And this season another big name from the world of football has also returned to the SPL. He is another legend from Real Madrid, namely Benzema. and of course in the future maybe the SPL will be in the spotlight more and maybe it will be able to compete more with European football competitions. Sometimes financial strength can change things so quickly. But even so, it's still from the European League that has always produced more star players since long ago. but nowadays many Asian players are also starting to take part in European clubs. and that means Asian football will see improvements in the future, including from the Arab League, of course.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on June 14, 2023, 08:01:29 AM

@zuzie their intent is very clear that they want to make SPL even bigger then the Premier League and the La Liga hence I believe that they’ll keep acquiring young and old stars from these two leagues primarily. Furthermore Messi isn’t coming but I won’t be surprised if several young star’s ditch their clubs and move to SPL because they can always return back in a year or two but they won’t get this kind of money elsewhere.

No, no league can compete with the leagues in Europe so if the goal is to compete clearly it is wrong they want to attract attention with a mission
SPL isn't the first to do this previously there were leagues in China and America doing the same thing and we know what happened is only temporary
In addition, young players who leave the European leagues will no longer get a place there we already have many examples.

You're right and the Saudi Pro League is just going to be a pretty highly competitive league in Asia nothing more, and if anyone is touting that they could be one of the best leagues in the world it's bullshit. Bringing old players to their league is clearly the goal only to increase the value of their country and league so they can win the 2030 World Cup election. And if there are young players who go there, of course because they don't get good offers from big clubs, it could be because of their skills is average but if at the same time get an offer from one of the clubs in Europe which is quite competitive of course these young players will choose Europe, the Saudi pro league is suitable for players who have got a lot of achievements and it's time to earn more money, and I quite doubt they will continue to do the same thing for the next ten years because of course it will be seen whether it provides benefits or not.

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Quote from: borovichok on June 14, 2023, 11:21:52 PM

There is no other league that is as competitive as the European league. Saudi Arabia is doing everything they can, but the sooner they accept that they will never be able to compete with Europe in football, the better. Signing players over is never an option to increase their league; rather, it will become popular based on the great names that play there; after all, the players who migrate to the Saudi pro league are basically the ones who have no energy left for the tough bouts in Europe. Karim Benzema and Cristiano Ronaldo are old, and despite their top-level performances, they only want to play football and retire with gigantic wages.

The aim of the Saudis will not be to make the league the most competitive, they need the attention from people I think as a country and football is a way for them to achieve it, that is why they are going after old players who they know people already like. It will be difficult for any league to match the competition in the english premier league, even other leagues that have known players has not been on the same competition level with the premier league, so this cannot be the goal of Saudia Arabia. Saudi Arabia have plans to host the world cup sometime in the future like Qatar did, they are doing all this to make their bid easier later.

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I think they can bring as many star players to their league as they want, but it will not be of interest to most people, it will only be talked about and forgotten for 1-2 days.
Their league has no value and I don't think it will.
We will never see the quality of football in Europe there.
America and China did the same thing, but I don't think much has changed.

There is no other league that is as competitive as the European league. Saudi Arabia is doing everything they can, but the sooner they accept that they will never be able to compete with Europe in football, the better. Signing players over is never an option to increase their league; rather, it will become popular based on the great names that play there; after all, the players who migrate to the Saudi pro league are basically the ones who have no energy left for the tough bouts in Europe. Karim Benzema and Cristiano Ronaldo are old, and despite their top-level performances, they only want to play football and retire with gigantic wages.

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I think they can bring as many star players to their league as they want, but it will not be of interest to most people, it will only be talked about and forgotten for 1-2 days.
Their league has no value and I don't think it will.
We will never see the quality of football in Europe there.
America and China did the same thing, but I don't think much has changed.

LOL.. don't be too sure. China and the US also did the same. But they though that if they bring 1-2 star players per team, then the quality would automatically improve. The SPL clubs are not doing that. They are revamping their entire squads and at the same time they are hiring the best possible non-playing staff from around the world. And regarding popularity, the viewer numbers have already hit a record for the Saudi Professional League, and next year promises to be even bigger, with addition of players like Benzema and N'Golo Kanté.

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Yes, you're right, the European League is one of the better leagues and has more competitive competition compared to other leagues. What makes the names of soccer players famous are those who played in the European League before, such as Messi, Ronaldo and Benzema, by making stunning achievements with the big teams in Europe. So for now, haven't we heard of players in the SPL who are quite famous besides Ronaldo and Benzema.

Young players only can grow up well if they are playing in biggest leagues and at best clubs. Because playing in such environment will help young players to learn from experienced star players and facing against tough opponents will help those young players to break their limits. Without challenge to break through, you will not hit your best and European Leagues are helpful for young players to achieve this for their career. Like Benzema will not discover all of his potential and limits if he did not leave Lyon to join Real Madrid years ago.

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The SPL is an Arab league and chose a different atmosphere to the Europa League and it is not worth comparing them. I think the Arab League will become the Arab League and those who play there I think their dream is to play in the highest caste, namely in the big European teams.

It is fairer to compare Saudi Professional League to other leagues in the Middle East countries. They have similar conditions from culture, domestic and local player resources, average salary, continental competitions for clubs and national teams. With latest big transfers of Cristiano and Benzema, Saudi Professional League are leading Middle East area but it is too soon to conclude their league will gain improvement in quality and their local players will become better in next several years.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on June 14, 2023, 04:06:17 PM

I think they can bring as many star players to their league as they want, but it will not be of interest to most people, it will only be talked about and forgotten for 1-2 days.
Their league has no value and I don't think it will.
We will never see the quality of football in Europe there.
America and China did the same thing, but I don't think much has changed.

I support your words, no matter how many big stars come to the Saudi League, the Saudi League will never be like the European League. For example, when Ronaldo came to Saudi Arabia, 2-1 days there was a lot of discussion and criticism about Ronaldo. Then slowly the discussion and criticism of Ronaldo stopped. After Karim Benzema came to the Saudi League, he was criticized for 2-1 days. Then slowly people stopped criticizing properly. Despite the presence of many big stars in the Saudi league, people do not find the Saudi leagues as attractive as the European leagues. So finally I want to say that even if can spend a lot of money in the Saudi League and have big star teams, it will never be like the European League.

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I think they can bring as many star players to their league as they want, but it will not be of interest to most people, it will only be talked about and forgotten for 1-2 days.
Their league has no value and I don't think it will.
We will never see the quality of football in Europe there.
America and China did the same thing, but I don't think much has changed.

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Europe is surely leading football competitions around the world. The Europa League is always at the top level, they are a reference for other leagues. Almost all top players are playing in the Europe leagues, which makes Europe competitions on the other level. Because most top players there, Europe leagues become more competitive than other leagues and they have more established football teams as well. And football teams in Europe are always got sponsorships from top companies because they get a big advantage by promoting their companies with the football clubs. That makes football teams in Europe have established finances, too. We know Saudi clubs also have good finances, but the quality of players in the league is much different from the players' quality in the Europa leagues.

Yes, you're right, the European League is one of the better leagues and has more competitive competition compared to other leagues. What makes the names of soccer players famous are those who played in the European League before, such as Messi, Ronaldo and Benzema, by making stunning achievements with the big teams in Europe. So for now, haven't we heard of players in the SPL who are quite famous besides Ronaldo and Benzema.

The SPL is an Arab league and chose a different atmosphere to the Europa League and it is not worth comparing them. I think the Arab League will become the Arab League and those who play there I think their dream is to play in the highest caste, namely in the big European teams.

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Quote from: rendravolt on June 14, 2023, 08:51:51 AM

Mourinho gave the right decision to reject Al-Ahli, we know Mourinho is still at the highest level to handle Europe's top teams and his choice to stay with Roma is proof that he will still try to bring titles to the capital team.

mourinho is probably aiming to win serie A and put rome back in the champions league, he has goals to increase his titles, this shows that his determination is stronger than money and also because he knows that if he were to arabia and something went wrong he wouldn't go back to europe and get a good team right away, so arabia would be the kind of place mourinho would only go to if he no longer had a place in europe and wanted to retire, which doesn't seem to me to be the case current scenario. speaking in arabia, does anyone know if ronaldo or al nassr's team already has a coach?

and what I've seen on the news (I don't know if this is true or just another rumour, as the news has been lying a lot lately to gain an audience, so it's hard to believe what I've seen on the news) that ronaldo was allowed to choose new players for nassr, if this is true why don't they start looking for a good coach first and then let the coach do the job he was hired for, but they want to create conflicts, if ronaldo chooses the new players and when they bring a coach, what is that coach fara on the team? I sincerely hope it's just a rumor that ronaldo is choosing the new players

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It is impossible for them to make Saudi Professional League as a big league like either La Liga or Premier League. Because you can not have a big league with very old players like Benzema or Cristiano, Kante. Those old players can bring some lessons to domestic players in Saudi but their performances will not be as same as when they were young years ago.

If Saudi Professional League can have players like Mbappe, many of such young super star players, they can increase the league quality a lot. Unfortunately it is impossible to convince players like Mbappe to join the league. They will want to play in Europe and win Champions League, Ballon d'Or, money is not all they want.

Young players can not grow up to super star players if they only play in Saudi or South America countries like Brazil, Argentina or Uruguay. We all see those youth players try to find their future in Europe. It is impossible to convince youth European players to join Saudi Professional League. They must build the league with their local players and players from Middle East nations.

They are not really aiming at being that good, they are aiming at top 10 for the time being, and in order to do that fame would be enough. They started this path with getting Ronaldo first, and that's a big enough name that he could make others come, now they have a few more, and that will make it so that they could get a few more.

There are a lot of great players you could convince with just 10-20 million a year, and they could get those players. This is why I honestly believe that they are going to spend a lot of time finding the right players. When they do build it, which won't be in a single season, they will be able to get into top 10, even if 10th, and that's not impossible to achieve if you spend enough amount of money.

They still won't easily overcome the problem that young and strong players won't give up a career in Europe for 10-20 million per year in Saudi Arabia because they can earn that money in Europe already. The price will stay very high for Saudi Arabian clubs to get players who are in their prime and who are outstandingly strong. Take Bellingham as an example, I wonder what a club from the SPL would have had to pay him in order to make him waive the offer from Real Madrid at this stage in his career only because he can earn more money in Saudi Arabia. He would give up on everything he dreamt of. Playing for Real Madrid in the Champions League one day and win the most important trophies in the world. Even when they paid him 50 million, he wouldn't have decided to go to the SPL. It will remain expensive for them and that can't be sustainable forever.

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Quote from: hd49728 on June 14, 2023, 08:08:36 AM

The Asian and European castes are different in football and Europe has dominated football for a longer time, so it will be very difficult for the SPL to compete with them because this is a different regional zone.
The Saudi club have a lot of money and that's what makes their football so alive players will be attracted here because of the tempting offers, it won't be surprising to me that some other young players will be here in the future as the SPL competition is getting tougher in their league and also players are getting paid tall.

Europe is surely leading football competitions around the world. The Europa League is always at the top level, they are a reference for other leagues. Almost all top players are playing in the Europe leagues, which makes Europe competitions on the other level. Because most top players there, Europe leagues become more competitive than other leagues and they have more established football teams as well. And football teams in Europe are always got sponsorships from top companies because they get a big advantage by promoting their companies with the football clubs. That makes football teams in Europe have established finances, too. We know Saudi clubs also have good finances, but the quality of players in the league is much different from the players' quality in the Europa leagues.

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It is impossible for them to make Saudi Professional League as a big league like either La Liga or Premier League. Because you can not have a big league with very old players like Benzema or Cristiano, Kante. Those old players can bring some lessons to domestic players in Saudi but their performances will not be as same as when they were young years ago.

If Saudi Professional League can have players like Mbappe, many of such young super star players, they can increase the league quality a lot. Unfortunately it is impossible to convince players like Mbappe to join the league. They will want to play in Europe and win Champions League, Ballon d'Or, money is not all they want.

Young players can not grow up to super star players if they only play in Saudi or South America countries like Brazil, Argentina or Uruguay. We all see those youth players try to find their future in Europe. It is impossible to convince youth European players to join Saudi Professional League. They must build the league with their local players and players from Middle East nations.

They are not really aiming at being that good, they are aiming at top 10 for the time being, and in order to do that fame would be enough. They started this path with getting Ronaldo first, and that's a big enough name that he could make others come, now they have a few more, and that will make it so that they could get a few more.

There are a lot of great players you could convince with just 10-20 million a year, and they could get those players. This is why I honestly believe that they are going to spend a lot of time finding the right players. When they do build it, which won't be in a single season, they will be able to get into top 10, even if 10th, and that's not impossible to achieve if you spend enough amount of money.

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Quote from: hd49728 on June 14, 2023, 08:08:36 AM

It is impossible for them to make Saudi Professional League as a big league like either La Liga or Premier League. Because you can not have a big league with very old players like Benzema or Cristiano, Kante. Those old players can bring some lessons to domestic players in Saudi but their performances will not be as same as when they were young years ago.

If Saudi Professional League can have players like Mbappe, many of such young super star players, they can increase the league quality a lot. Unfortunately it is impossible to convince players like Mbappe to join the league. They will want to play in Europe and win Champions League, Ballon d'Or, money is not all they want.

Saudi professional league can't get to the level which European football has gotten with the type of players they're going after. It'll take forever for them to achieve that although they can make their league relevant if they continue with how they're spending. Arabic money are already dominating Europe football so they should organize friendly regularly and look for the way the two continents can cross path through football. If the Saudis league can grow ti the level of Serie A then they can use their money to influence a tournament which teams from Saudi and other top European league compete then the Saudi league will be taken more seriously.

As it stands now the Saudi professional league is just been seen as a retirement league for top players and for average players to get the bag they can use for retirement. The Saudi league can't attract players like Mbappe, Mbappe is hungry for success and wants to win everything possible in football and most especially the champions league. He already has the world cup so winning the champions league is now his top priority and also winning the Ballon D'or with other individual awards.

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