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Topic: Scam Andrej Brda/Wili Clip,Gold Hunt,Fish Hunt,earn free lindens,Second Ads Life - page 12. (Read 59030 times)

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ive started selling off my shares in all companys

time to get out and go else where
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Also i find it very interesting that wili Clip has deleated all his past comments here (page 1)

Also how hes emptied his profile or all his boasting of the amount of users he has ect

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/wiliclip-756961

(also take note of last time on, exactly the same time as the alt hes using now to try and make out its not him, not as dumb as i look
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Not just ADS ive shares in

like i said i have a lot of shares in quite a few companys, so im selling them off and getting out, this should not have got this far, it should have been sorted a while ago, its a obvious blantent attempt to get o of things. Everyone is burying their heads in the sand in hopes it goes away.

Honestly i have had enough, pulling out of Capex as of feb 14th, any shares i have left will just be sold at rock bottom prices to get off Capex and future scammers.

This is beyond funny, and ADS isnt the only one thats going to loose out, there are a few companys that ARE paying their divendends and doing things right, i will even be selling those shares, it is time i moved to another trading site.

Its a shame as skip has a good idea, and a good business(its getting destroyed bit by bit and day by day and me cashing out will hurt the game a lot and i would not be suprised if capex does not close its doors because this will hurt it a great deal in money terms.)

But people like Wili are making a compleate mockery of the system, ill be fully out and done by Feb 14th and cashed out and gone else where. Shares i dont sell i will be honest will just be abandonded, i really do not care anymore. Its gone to far.
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Take it easy, if you sell now, you will lose a lot. And you'll be doing Brda a favor: he has been actively buying these cheap ADS shares (he wasn't the only one, at this prices those shares are a bargain). With secondads Resident he is about to get 50% of ADS. He will be very glad to buy them from you at current prices. Wait a little longer.
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Changed the CEO so he can keep his Wili Clip account? (even i can find that the alt hes been posting on here trying to make out that Wili is a good person is infact Wili Clip)

ok its time to draw a line under this bullcrap, time to sell off all my shares in capex and cash out, its people like Wili Clip that give things a bad name, from what im reading hes using alts to try and cover his tracks and make it look like hes doing nothing wrong, both on here and in Capex, trying to get around paying divedends he obviously owes for the past 2+ years, trying to get out of respocability, so its time i withdraw from Capex compleatly

ill be asking Skip to pay what needs to, then cancelling my account (almost 3000 USD $ invested in numorius companys will be withdrawn and taken else where away from Capex because of Wili Clip)

It also looks like going with the amount of halted trading companys others are also getting out of Capex by selling off their shares within companys (at the lowest possible price), looks like Capex has now gone to the dogs because of this and Wili Clip, ill be taking a loss on a lot, but at least what ive got left is safe from Capex and future scams. skip has let this go on far to long and not stepping in to sort it out.

Ive seriously had enough of this bullcrap then ill be contacting my local law enforment agency as per govermental site and start the ball rolling to get him at least investigated on fraud and imbelzlement
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But on the information about ADS it still says Wili Clip is the CEO, only the avatar was changed: https://www.onlinecapex.com/symbol/ADS/profile

This is irrelevant. Of course, he had a reason to do that, but I don't think it's linked to his scams.
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hmm whats going on....

Director secondads Resident
Status Not actively traded at this time
Created 2011-02-21 07:27:25

Director changed to secondads Resident


secondads Resident is an alt of Brda/ADS, therefore is an irrelevant change.
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No one told you were the only one scamming. But you are one of the CEOs with more profits, therefore probably you were the one that stole more.

Even if you start paying real dividends, that won't compensate in any terms for the 3 years of dividends you didn't pay. You will be doing the right thing, the account Bitcoining will stop bothering you, but you will end up profiting a lot from us.

You have a PM here.
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I gave you negative feedback also in this account, Brda: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=307001

I'll remove it, if you start paying real dividends.
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Doesn't really look like you were scammed in anything


Since Brda likes to make quotes, let's make one or two.

"This guidance addresses "convertible" virtual currency. This type of virtual currency either has an equivalent value in real currency, or acts as a substitute for real currency."

"Accepting and transmitting anything of value that substitutes for currency makes a person a money transmitter under the regulations implementing the BSA."

https://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/guidance/html/FIN-2013-G001.html

You received a virtual currency that is fully convertible to the USD, lindens; therefore you received "something of value". You planed ahead to steal it and never pay it back, that is fraud. You kept something you received (profits), but you had a duty to give back to shareholders, but you didn't give it: that's embezzlement. It makes you a criminal.

Anyway, if you steal a valued baseball card, try to tell the judge it was just from a kid's card collection, a kid's game. If you steal something with economic value, you are a criminal.

http://siliconangle.com/blog/2015/02/23/mintpal-scammer-ryan-kennedy-arrested-in-u-k-over-theft-of-3700-bitcoins/

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/11/business/man-charged-in-bitcoin-scheme-appears-in-new-york-court.html

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Brda came again for another round of ludicrous excuses, untenable positions and immoral arguments.

Don't you have at least a slave, working for you, willing to come here and vouch for you?

We know it's you Brda and, again, you shoot yourself on the feet.

You have so little imagination that you used the Chili or Chiliy nick in pages you made under the name of Andrej Brda. You just confirmed again that you are Brda. We don't need any other confirmation, but feel free to scan your identity card and post it here.

Do you remember this page? http://profileengine.com/people/chiliy/andrej.brda You are waiting for more people to find all about you in the future, before you delete it?

Actually, the lack of imagination is striking, because this nick wasn't originally yours. You copied it from a slovenian friend, owner of a blog on technology where you wrote about Second Life a couple of times with the nick andrej. I won't post the link, but it's still available on https://web.archive.org. Do you remember him? I'm not going to post his name or picture, but he currently works for the slovenian government.

I wonder if he knows your scams or if he has been in any way your accomplice on them.
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Just for your information I am not CEO Wili Clip. I have been making L$ playing his games in second Life for years now. I am officially an elder in his LGH group and a MODERATOR trainee (soon to become a moderator in LGH and for goldtokens.net gaming community). I am very supportive of what he does and without him Second Life would not be an interesting place like it is. I personally think that all accusations of scam against CEO of ADS are fabricated. And what you all are posting here on this forum is not correct towards mr. Wili Clip.

I will explain and prove my point. Mr. Clip has already explained a lot and I'll borrow some of his sentences. I don't think mr. Clip will mind me protecting his good name a bit.

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Since IPO and SPO back in 2011 ADS has paid 104,3% in dividends of the funds it has raised through IPO and SPO and plan is to keep on operating as long as technically possible in the event if onlinecapex.com stopped or disappeared all shareholders will be moved onto another virtual stock exchange game with similar features or shareholders will be properly restituted for their ingame investment like it is the case with many other virtual companies that were operated on onlinecapex.com and have simply disappeared and were delisted silently.

Looks like all accusations are unabased. Current plans for ADS are to consistently follow new dividends policy and follow a strategy to increase the share price and increase in trading activity. Same with SNUF.

Those that are making huss and fuss need to understand that this is a GAME and this is not a real stock exchange operation. And you are not receiving real shares or any rights to any business operation/s. As long as the stock exchange simulation game is active virtual shareholders can expect that they will be able to trade their shares with other traders and also collect some dividends. Here it is more than anywhere else important to follow the known saying: "Never invest what you're not prepared to loose."


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From the onlinecapex.com game rule book (terms of service) that all players agreed to when they started playing:
To be very clear, Capital Exchange Stock Market Simulation Game is not a real-world stock exchange and does not offer opportunity for direct real-world investment or profit, and is a “game of skill”. Shares purchased on this stock exchange simulation game do not entitle you to any legal rights to a listed virtual company. Please play the game of skill accordingly.

When you invest in companies on this exchange game you are consciously taking the RISK that you might never see your invested funds again or you can make some trading profit and something off dividends. In many cases it has appeared that with most virtual companies virtual investors do loose money because they stop operating and disappear into unknown. But this is not the case with ADS and all allegations and accusations of SCAM against ADS have no base.

With ADS currently there isn't anyone who would loose invested funds because ADS CEO is still active and with a plan to revive ADS shares trading if possible on this game exchange platform (onlinecapex.com) or on some other. Only way anyone would loose money with ADS was if CEO suddenly disappeared like it is the case with many other CEOs. And it is also very funny that among those CEOs that did disappear there are many who were making large drama and scam accusations against ADS in past. Smiley

It is important for some shareholders to understand and be aware of that one of the reasons why the stock trading on the onlinecapex.com has decreased due to lack of interests and lost of trust on shareholders side due to recent events (online reports) about onlinecapex.com operator Skip Oceanlane (Carmen Dubaldi from New York).

http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/general-sl-discussion/110336-capital-exchange-ceo-under-active.html
http://www.recordonline.com/article/20151208/NEWS/151209472
http://www.recordonline.com/article/20151027/NEWS/151029289
http://www.recordonline.com/article/20150827/NEWS/150829521

And the fact that slcapex.com (now onlinecapex.com) has not been operating for several months and ADS and SNUF shares could not be traded for months is another factor that has lead to decreased investors/players interest to trade ADS shares. Many CEOs of virtual companies in there that have raised much much more funds than ADS did are not active and many are in process of getting delisted, many already left/disappeared.

Still ADS CEO has a plan to revive the trading of ADS for shareholders so that share price recovers and shareholders get some benefit from shareholding of ADS through dividends. At goldtokens.net they create games that benefit all the players. He is known to be very successful and it is not in his interest to have any players feel cheated.

This is a game and all players subscribed to this game rules and probably with intentions to learn about stocks and get a chance to make some profit if everything goes well. ADS CEO did not subscribe to this game to steal anything from people...

Those that accuse ADS of scamming anyone have no grounds in reality because CEO is still there and active and he is prepared to work with his shareholders so that they make the game of virtual stock trading game (at least for ADS shareholders) enjoyable and rewarding.

ADS CEO did not disappear like some of the other CEOs did who you can rightfully call fraudsters and thiefs...

For all of those that are reading about onlinecapex (previously SLCapex) for the 1st time and are forming 1st opinion about all this its important to know that all players even these that are writing all these forum posts with accusations of theft.
www.onlinecapex.com stock exchange simulation game has a disclaimer in the footer:

This website © 2008-2016 CapEx Inc. Capital Exchange Stock Market Simulation Game is a game of skill and is not a real stock exchange.
This website is not a place of investment and is for entertainment purposes only. Companies listed within the game are fictitious and are not real companies or corporations.
Buying stock in a company on this website gives a buyer no legal rights nor a share in any legal company. All rights reserved.


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Article I - Capital Exchange Disclosure Statement
Capital Exchange Stock Market Simulation Game Terms of Service and Agreement



Article I: Capital Exchange Disclosure Statement

Capital Exchange Stock Market Simulation Game (also referred to as “CapEx” and “Capital Exchange”) is a fictional stock market simulation game operating for entertainment and educational purposes only, and currently exists partially in support of Second Life®, a feature-rich online 3-D virtual world operated and supported by Linden Research, Inc. Capital Exchange (http://www.onlinecapex.com) is not affiliated with Linden Research, Inc. For more information regarding Second Life® please visit (http://www.secondlife.com).
Capital Exchange Stock Market Simulation Game is owned and operated by CapEx Inc. Throughout this document, when referring to “onlinecapex.com”, it is understood that CapEx. Inc. is included in its definition and coverage of legal liability.

To be very clear, Capital Exchange Stock Market Simulation Game is not a real-world stock exchange and does not offer opportunity for direct real-world investment or profit, and is a “game of skill”. Shares purchased on this stock exchange simulation game do not entitle you to any legal rights to a listed virtual company. Please play the game of skill accordingly.

Capital Exchange Stock Market Simulation Game operates independently of the Second Life® game environment, and beyond its boundaries via our website which acts as a clearinghouse for the trading of CapEx-listed "Stocks" and "CapEx Dollars (CD$)" within the game. The underlying game companies are fictitious and none of the companies offer "registered" investment quality securities for sale in any form whatsoever via our website. CapEx Dollars (CD$) used to purchase virtual stock are in essence being transferred to the ownership of the person you are buying the virtual shares from, and not Capital Exchange. All stock and shares purchased are for purely entertainment only, and not considered part/whole ownership in any legal entity or real life company.

The terms "profit" and "earnings" as used within the context of the onlinecapex.com website game, and any claim of monetary value therein, relates solely and specifically to the valuation of $CapEx Dollars as specified in the CapEx Terms of Services.

The CapEx Dollar (CD$) virtual "currency" is a limited license right available for purchase or free distribution at CapEx Inc.’s sole discretion..

CapEx offers direct opportunity for conversion of CapEx Dollars to and from legal tender currencies including $US Dollars through PayPal only (www.paypal.com).

Notwithstanding the warnings herein, CapEx as designed and offered is a serious stock market simulation game. The participants here “play for keeps” and their time and CapEx Dollar (CD$)-based holdings represent a considerable investment in our community.

Your participation here is not without risk. You could lose some or all of your CapEx Dollars (CD$) and/or US Dollars (US$) used within the game. Only invest in Capital Exchange Stock Market Simulation Game what you can afford to lose.

A game CEO retains all liability for game stock issued, until repurchased by the game CEO, unless that liability has been properly transferred according to the Terms of Service and rules of onlinecapex.com . The owner and operator of Capital Exchange Stock Market Simulation Game does not issue "refunds" for game stock lost due to a delisting or other occurrence that results in the loss of stock, or a loss of game stock value for any reason. All users of onlinecapex.com play at their own risk and understand that some or all of their game playing "investments" could be lost.

There are additional policies, rules and Terms of Service for participation as published and amended from time-to-time. Please review and fully understand them before playing.

Finally, the operators of onlinecapex.com make no representation of any kind regarding the accuracy, fitness for purpose, or use of the software residing at onlinecapex.com. Your use of the software in any manner whatsoever shall constitute an understanding and acceptance of this Disclosure Statement and the Terms of Service in its entirety. The individuals who operate the software residing at onlinecapex.com offer no warranty and offer no remedies whatsoever for its use or consequence. You play this stock market simulation game at your own risk.
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All this mess created also publicity to Capex. I wonder how many of these bitcoiners responsible for the more than 2500 views of this thread (many from the same people, but...) decided to invest in stocks at Capex.
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Someone dumped more than 9000 shares after this promise of Brda. There can be no doubt that shareholders believed him. Roll Eyes
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On Brda's new post on Capex: https://www.onlinecapex.com/home/story/SNUF/9162

Yesterday, 22:59 SNUF Snuffles
by Wili Clip
Answer to accusations of scam against ADS/SNUF
I'd like to provide some answers and clarifications regarding late scam accusations against ADS and its CEO.

I've asked Skip Oceanlane to provide me exact information on funds that ADS company has raised from shareholders at its IPO and SPO.

Since IPO and SPO back in 2011 ADS has paid 104,3% in dividends of the funds it has raised through IPO and SPO and plan is to keep on operating.

Current plans for ADS are to consistently follow new dividends policy and follow a strategy to increase the share price and increase in trading activity. Same with SNUF.

I've stepped off demanding that some shareholders be sanctioned because of their attempt to try to create harm to business. I've accepted to share dividends with everyone who bought ADS shares.

Those that are making huss and fuss need to understand that this is a GAME and this is not a real stock exchange operation. And you are not receiving real shares or any rights to any business operation/s. As long as we play the game virtual shareholders can expect that they will be able to trade their shares with other traders and also collect some dividends. Here it is more than anywhere else important to follow the known saying: "Never invest what you're not prepared to loose."

When you invest in companies on this exchange game you are consciously taking the RISK that you might never see your invested funds again or you can make some trading profit and something off dividends.

If you loose money here you are the only one that is responsible for it. With ADS currently there isn't anyone who would loose invested funds because ADS CEO is still active and with a plan to revive ADS shares trading. Only way anyone would loose money with ADS was if I suddenly disappeared like many other CEOs did. It is funny that among those CEOs that did disappear are many who were making large drama and scam accusations against ADS in past. Smiley

This is a game and we've subscribed to this game to learn about stocks and get a chance to win a buck if everything goes well. I did not subscribe to this game to steal anything from people...

Those that accuse me of scamming anyone have no grounds in reality because I am still here and active and I am prepared to work with you shareholders so that we make this game (at least for ADS shareholders) enjoyable and rewarding.

I did not disappear like some of the other CEOs did who you can rightfully call fraudsters or other names you use...

So now when that is clear we can go on with business...

Expect dividends for ADS and SNUF for Jan 2016 soon as we solve some technical issues around funding the capex account.

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1) We would like to see the math on those 104,3% on dividends of the money he raised and if he is taking in account that he pocket half of those dividends. Actually, until the SPO, he pocketed much more, since he had a much bigger percentage of the shares.

2) Even if he had paid TO SHAREHOLDERS (not to him) all the money he raised from them, he didn't borrow money: he sold half of his company, so the dividends were our right.

3) This is a game? Were the 60,000 USDs he got fake money? He should tell that to the people that are in jail for scamming with bitcoin.

4) "If you loose money here you are the only one that is responsible for it.". Really? Isn't the scammer the main responsible? He should use that argument to a judge, maybe he will buy it.

5) We'll believe in the dividends he is promising when we see them posted to shareholders. The simple fact that the market isn't reacting to this promise says much about Brda credibility. And if that dividend isn't a real, fair dividend, that will somehow (on very unfair terms, but nobody said we live in a fair world of honest and honorable people) compensate for 3 years of stolen dividends, we won't remove the posts. The campaign will lose steam. We will stop to see what he does in February, but these posts will stay here until some compensation is given. He knows what these words mean in numbers. But our word will be honored. The posts made with this account and the blog http://scammers.blog.com/ will be removed on these terms.

6) Let's face it: Brda didn't run and is still here, because he is still making a lot of money with our money. But we will wait and see if he still has a conscience and can do the right thing. We'll let him show us how Honest he is and how wrong and unfair we have been.

6) We know that the technical reasons are somehow real. But he already received easy solutions.
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This thread is skyrocketing on views: almost 2300. Yesterday, we had 600.
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The promoters of this campaign have a significant part of ADS shares, so we won't be very happy if ADS goes down, but we won't be sad either. Che sarà, sarà.
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He thinks this is one huge joke and no one can hurt his reputation

1 estate company i know of (as i am a tenant with them) have today suspended with a view to permantly ban his products from their sims (anyone basicly found using them will have them returned and their plots locked so they cant place a scammers and thieves items out i can see whay they have done it as they want to try protecting their tenants from fraud and theft, and they are quite big company with over 250 sims) and a few others are leaving it a few days to see what excuse he comes up with (i know a few are talking about this in a closed estate forum)

Altho to get out the hole he will possibly turn around and say revenue has been really low here is 1000 rest got used to pay scripters for a non exsistant upgrade that happened.

But in all honesty i really do not thinks he give a damn what people think or the truth, he thinks that he gives away free L$ to its users, even if they are being scammed and they are being paid with STOLEN money, that they will continue to use his system.

I really love how he thinks the forum will be googe  (its gone you stupid plick) does he really think hes that good at programming or has that much money he can buy his way out of this, so look like hes also going to take on the whole of this forum, just because the truth has been put out for everyone to see.

is he also going to take on wordpress, facebook and twitter for all the posts that are around about him, holy crap he must be a millionaire then to take them all on, so is facebook and twitter goin to be googe  (lol) as well? and what about wordpress?




UPDATE -

Interesting reply hes just posted on capex site

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So now when that is clear we can go on with business...

Expect dividends for ADS and SNUF fir Jan 2016 soon as we solve some technical issues around funding the capex account.

So basicly hes got funding to his account issues?, (never heard something so stupid) funny how over 30 others CEOs dont have a issue funding thier account, and just as i thought, only paying Jan divedends so last years money has been placed in his pocket, and all those missed payments from 2013 also placed in his pocket, and the Snuf side from 2013 also placed in his pocket, Skip really needs to act on this as its people like Wili clip who are killing the Virtual Stock market and why people dont trust anymore.

Wili quit with the god damn excuses already its getting old. blah blah blah is all i hear comming out your mouth, your lips may be moving but its you'r arse thats doing the talking.

wili may as well make a offer to buy all the shares and fade into the darkness, because once this gets out no one is going to trust him again, i think his name is dirt now, and forever branded a thief and scammer, but then again he will think the forum is goonge or he can worm his way out of things.
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