Topic: [SCAM] Is payonix.com a legitimate AISC H/w manufacturer in Australia? - page 8. (Read 25036 times)

Well if you do - make sure they point it at Eligius and mine there.

I'll ask the Eligius pool operator to verify the results also.

There also is no reason to not do this and no reason to do any other pool/solo/whatever.

I have a function is Queensland tomorrow not to far from Payonix, I will stay for Monday and go and watch this live demo in person. Should be interesting indeed. I wonder if they will allow photos to be taken?

This should prove to be most interesting

Well that sorta sounds like
http://adamjnettlefold.wordpress.com/about/
(as mentioned further up)

Meanwhile ... Blog
Friday 15-Nov
Phone Line Issues
2:33pm AEST: We are experiancing intermittent phone disruption.

... well that's interesting ... what's the next problem gonna be? Email server failed?

Edit: and I don't understand why they have not done the Eligius test yet.
It only takes a few minutes to point a miner at Eligius ... unless they don't know what they are doing and this page is a lie about mining for ~2 years already:
https://payonix.com/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=4

Yup it's a scam. Fake LinkedIns.

I can already tell what their next moves will be.

1. "Prove" their unit is working to his victims. Most likely video with a fake cgmimer. Easy to pull off.

2. As the delivery date comes near. Say that the chinese manufacturer is lacking the required parts and could be delayed by 2-3 weeks.

3. Ofcourse by now its xmas, new years and china doesn't work for 2 weeks

4. say the miners have been shipped to Australia

5. then announce that they are stuck in customs and could take 2-3 days

6. say that customs have rejected those miner due to non CE certification. Check their miner specs page. States they are no CE certified. Or it'll be another reason why it was rejected. He'll have some forged customs paperwork to show to his victims.

7. By now people would be asking for refunds and he will "agree" to it.

8. he will actually pretend to send the refunds and forged some paperwork to prove it. Dear Ken Masters, you have received the amount of $5600.56 in your account. Due to suspicion of the origins of the funds, the bank will temporarily hold the funds for up to 14 days. Once determined, it will be released into your account. Or something aling those lines :-P I'll have read from some of his victims post. And yes he has done this before. Forged commonwealth bank letters.

Basically there will be stalling and a lot of lies.
http://www.scamwatch.gov.au/content/index.phtml/tag/scamHaveYouBeenScammed/#h2_18

After that, he will close the phone lines, email, website and go into hiding.

Should be an interesting Monday with the live Demo then, Lets hope there is no technical difficulties

http://m2.c.lnkd.licdn.com/media/p/1/005/01f/331/3087664.jpg That is the image from the linked in page http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=300154890 . I have also taken a screen shot of his profile page in case he changes the picture. If you do a image search on google using that image it takes you to this page www.quaydental.com.au/index.php/about-us/ourteam/dr-andrew-harrold

The payonix thing is a scam for sure.

Can anyone get access to the linked in image for Andrew Thomas?
https://payonix.com/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=4

I don't have a linked in account (and don't really want an account where the site wants your email and password from other places ...)
So I created a simple one and it requires way too much before I can get at the linked in link.

So, what we going to do?

We need to get him into a cell. 

Do we have any resources to make that happen?

Brief story how Adam Nettlefold scammed my family | adamjnettlefold
adamjnettlefold.wordpress.com/.../brief-story-how-adam-nettlefold-scamme...
Sep 8, 2013 - Adam Nettlefold moves back to Australia, restricts communication to email only. Slowly the truth starts coming out: there was never a contract ...

Robert nettlefold is Adam nettlefolds brother who also has a brother Paul. There is a pic of them all in the article. If a visit is made to payonix I guess you can match the pic for proof

http://www.janeelliott.com/commitment.htm <--- Edgar take the Commitment To Combat Racism with me.

as you wish, i stand by my statements - not in the least intended as racial slurs.

but fully welcome to accepting mob rule that the facts i stated are in fact whatever the mob says they are/are not.



hashing stats??

Meh I go away for a while and come back and find you've turned it into a racist argument.

Please, can you leave that out of this.

Your posts are actually worthy of being deleted and I've asked a forum moderator to do so.

ckolivas comment is quite accurate.
e.g. if you listen to a Japanese person talking they will often refer to themselves by name in the conversation, rather than 'me' or similar words.
When an English speaking person hears this, it seems quite strange.
It's simply a language observation and thus could be applied to the reason behind sushi's wording.

meh. facts are facts.

i know what i live, you're free to know what you've read.

come to asia and see how we live, why theres no such thing as a public ambulance or national health care.

why the road traffic accident toll is what it is. why the avoidable death toll is what it is.

i wasnt being racist, i removed a fact from my post to avoid being called a racist by book edumacated judges.

(south east) asians ARE known for referring to themselves in the 3rd person. AS ARE SOCIOPATHS.

and presumably psychopaths, but i really do not know so will not speculate.

im all for education, but not when its forced or from an inaccurate perspective.

that could be worse than saying nothing

edit - if my personal experiences are baseless, then your opinion is worthless to learn from.

im legit, come & check us out!

Might have to visit there shop front and have a look

Yep might have egg on my face

Soon as you REDACT the racist comments sure.

Why shouldn't scammers get a pass? Cause it is WRONG.
Why shouldn't racism get a pass? Cause it is WRONG.

Next time keep your slurs to yourself and you won't need to be edmucated by me.

Your EXPERIENCE is pure unadulterated bullshit as it has no basis in fact. I am calling you out on it cause it is BASELESS.


Ways to Reduce Prejudice

In addition to looking at the reasons why prejudice occurs, researchers have also explored different ways that prejudice can be reduced or even eliminated. Training people to become more empathetic to members of other groups is one method that has shown considerable success. By imaging themselves in the same situation, people are able to think about how they would react and gain a greater understanding of other people's actions.

Other techniques that are used to reduce prejudice include:

Passing laws and regulations that require fair and equal treatment for all groups of people.

Gaining public support and awareness for anti-prejudice social norms.

Making people aware of the inconsistencies in their own beliefs. You are welcome Edgar.

Increased contact with members of other social groups.


http://www.janeelliott.com/ <--- Might want to take her program Edgar could be helpful.

Hey, easy man...

I was talking in 3rd...  

I'm trying to look into this.  Either way, i will update you but if I was right, can you guys donate 3BTC to cover the expense?  That's after I make it there and login with my BTCGUILD Account. I'm hoping to take a good look at the system.

Doesn't look good for payonix. Myself included.

Andrew, we are waiting for the stats, if you need help go here:

http://www.adobe.com/Photoshop