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Topic: SCAMMER: Cablepair (Tom) from BTCFPGA.com/bitcoinasic.net - page 12. (Read 24133 times)

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Annuit cœptis humanae libertas
If it was a planned scam from the outset, they surely would have just run off with all the moolah, yes?
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Thanks, Lukas. Do you think it was a scam from the beginning or did it simply go wrong at some point?
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I hope that shows my integrity.  Believe me it would have been far easier to distance myself from bASIC and just leave the mess for Tom (and his customers).

I STRONGLY urged Dave to leave BTCFPGA after my meeting with Tom.  I thought he had nothing to gain, and a ton to lose through "guilt by association."

Dave insisted on trying to complete all the CC refunds, so people would get money back.  He did not, and never did, have access to the BTC.  He and I both attempted to have Tom transfer BTC to Dave so he could handle refunds, but that never happened.

Dave tried his very best, beyond what I would have done (and certainly beyond what anyone else in this forum would have done).  To insinuate he was a part of Tom's behavior is ridiculous and unfounded.
legendary
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1 BTC =1 BTC

Maybe it's usefull to merge the information from this thread ?
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I formally request that whomever owns this site, sue me: https://www.bitcoinasic.net/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=5

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Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on CAN-ELECTRIC's web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:
modify or copy the materials;

Sue me on two counts! I modified the above by changing the first two words and making it one--Website. Also, I permanently downloaded said material by placing it on a public forum.

If I don't get sued, then that means their Terms and Conditions are worthless, ergo their entire operation is bogus as well.

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Any claim relating to CAN-ELECTRIC web site shall be governed by the laws of the State of New York without regard to its conflict of law provisions.

I guess that's one of the benefits of creating an omnipotent entity. You can have it occupying three locales simultaneously--Canada, Iraq, and now New York.
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theymos, we need a response on this.  There is no doubt whatsoever now that BitcoinASIC.net is using the name of Can Electric without the permission of its owners and that Can Electric has nothing to do with Ehasher or other aspects of bASIC's re-branding.

Would guess the website was "hacked" - in the same way Tom's account here was "hacked".

If that's Tom's claim, then there's no reason at all not to label BitcoinASIC.net a fraud.

If he refunded in a timely manner, everyone would of been paid back long before this 'hack' happened of bitcoinasic.net.
hero member
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theymos, we need a response on this.  There is no doubt whatsoever now that BitcoinASIC.net is using the name of Can Electric without the permission of its owners and that Can Electric has nothing to do with Ehasher or other aspects of bASIC's re-branding.

Would guess the website was "hacked" - in the same way Tom's account here was "hacked".

If that's Tom's claim, then there's no reason at all not to label BitcoinASIC.net a fraud.
hero member
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theymos, we need a response on this.  There is no doubt whatsoever now that BitcoinASIC.net is using the name of Can Electric without the permission of its owners and that Can Electric has nothing to do with Ehasher or other aspects of bASIC's re-branding.

Would guess the website was "hacked" - in the same way Tom's account here was "hacked".
hero member
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theymos, we need a response on this.  There is no doubt whatsoever now that BitcoinASIC.net is using the name of Can Electric without the permission of its owners and that Can Electric has nothing to do with Ehasher or other aspects of bASIC's re-branding.
hero member
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It's now been confirmed by Ari Asmar - owner of the real Can Electric - that they have no association with the re-branded bASIC.  A scammer tag needs to be applied right now, IMO.

Good grief.

Ahahahaha this is rich.
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It's now been confirmed by Ari Asmar - owner of the real Can Electric - that they have no association with the re-branded bASIC.  A scammer tag needs to be applied right now, IMO.

Good grief.
hero member
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It's now been confirmed by Ari Asmar - owner of the real Can Electric - that they have no association with the re-branded bASIC.  A scammer tag needs to be applied right now, IMO.
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Why are the mods waiting is what I am curious about?
hero member
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Give this guy a scammer tag before anyone falls for his new bitcoinasic lies and gets conned.



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+1 cant can't believe its that it's taken this long...

Tom, your you're a thief.

It's sad that he won't be clear about what is going on. He may have spent the money on misc. business functions and can't refund it. Think about what the charge backs cost. That's purely speculation of course. Obviously he didn't set out to scam people and he probably doesn't have a dime in his pocket for all the time and effort he has put into this whole thing. He probably got screwed by someone promising him chips.

The whole thing is very sad. But he does deserve a tag for sure. People have paid money and not been delivered to or refunded.

....this guy. wow. i'm betting this guy has an arts degree. we (i mean you) are the 99% right? dick face.
sr. member
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No-Refunds is nowadays 100% totally accepted operating policy with enthusiastic support from core developers and The Bitcoin Foundation as well as huge majority of community. I have not heard one even slightly critical voice against this from anybody in any kind of position of authority, only from a couple of trolls.

It doesn't matter what other people think, it's your money and if you don't like the terms of a vendor then don't do business with him.

"No Refunds - your funds are gone. Refunds therefore are impossible." is totally acceptable and the new norm or doing business.

I think you're referring to Avalon here. Tom was adamant that anybody can have a refund at any time.

Nobody should be given scammer tags for operating according to an 100% totally accepted policy and any old scammer tags given out for breaking a rule that nowadays does not exist should be lifted. Why wear scammer tags for something that is nowadays totally accepted and others are doing it out there in wide open?

There are so many scams going on around here and if I were in charge then I would hand out scammer tags all day long. Tom broke his promise of 100% refund at any time and he should get a scammer tag for it, period.

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FUTURE OF CRYPTO IS HERE!
I guess there are many who did not get the memo.

No-Refunds is nowadays 100% totally accepted operating policy with enthusiastic support from core developers and The Bitcoin Foundation as well as huge majority of community. I have not heard one even slightly critical voice against this from anybody in any kind of position of authority, only from a couple of trolls.

It is simply totally unfair to demand that some companies should store the customer funds for being able to pay out refunds when there are other companies competing in the same field using totally different set or rules that give huge advantage to any company following them.

"No Refunds - your funds are gone. Refunds therefore are impossible." is totally acceptable and the new norm or doing business.

Nobody should be given scammer tags for operating according to an 100% totally accepted policy and any old scammer tags given out for breaking a rule that nowadays does not exist should be lifted. Why wear scammer tags for something that is nowadays totally accepted and others are doing it out there in wide open?

legendary
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In Cryptocoins I Trust
Wow, I feel bad for defending this scumbag scammer.

Out of all ASIC vendors, I thought he was the least likely to be a scam.
hero member
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yup your right lets do the unsecured befor the more secure doesnt sound like a bad idea oo and by the way you forgot the part where i said do all refunds in order as they came in befor toms post of everyones getting refunded
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Has anyone received a BTC refund?
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