Topic: SCAMMER: Cablepair (Tom) from BTCFPGA.com/bitcoinasic.net - page 13. (Read 24138 times)

no i was still flamed for saying he shouldt do them all i ever said is to do the right thing and use the exchange rate at time of refund request
thats all i wanted but looks like were sol anyways

There isn't enough bitcoins to pay out refunds

Every credit card chargeback has a chargeback fee. Guess where that comes from - BTC refunds. Guess where Tom's wage came from.

"Currently both Visa and Mastercard require all merchants to maintain no more than 1% of dollar volume processed to be chargebacks. If the percentage goes above, there are fines starting at $5000 – $25,000 to the merchant's processing bank and ultimately passed on to the merchant.
In all cases, a chargeback will cost the merchant the chargeback fee, typically $15–$30, plus the cost of the transaction and the amount processed."

i also althought i do think that you should of let tom deal with the shit storm himself that way you didnt free him of his responsibilitys. wityh cc stuff out the way he is now more free to move about without owrrys.

I concur!

Absolutely. Leave Dave alone, he's done nothing wrong. The bASIC mess would be even bigger without him.

I was just an employee, working for cheap to try and help Tom be the first to market with ASIC.  Initially I had the idea of establishing hosted mining that would go really well with selling bASIC's.  Even though bASIC failed and I'm no longer working for Tom, I decided to proceed with the idea.

The 100TH Mine popped up right after bASIC because when one of Tom's big investors got the news that bASIC failed, he decided to keep moving forward (despite not receiving any money back yet himself).  I'm not working for Lescek (100TH Mine, picostocks.com) - but I like the odds here.  BitFury ASIC design, realistic timelines, actual information, a real business plan, etc.  And yes, Les likes the economics of having me host his mines.

As far as stealing coins - its an easy accusation to make.  You can throw out those accusations without having to provide tangible proof, while damaging a person's reputation.  Building that reputation is much harder.  I personally insured that over $1M was refunded to bASIC customers who paid with credit cards.  I spent hours & hours painstakingly assembling the master list of BTC refunds so that when Tom starts refunding, he won't have to collate all that information.  All this effort to do everything I could to help bASIC customers get their money back. 

I hope that shows my integrity.  Believe me it would have been far easier to distance myself from bASIC and just leave the mess for Tom (and his customers).

It's FPGAs, not ASICs.

Dave's involvement is as a hosting provider.  See the megabigpower.com thread.

BitFury was around before anyone heard of bASIC.

Sry you fail so much.

The last time I checked BlockChain, it seemed to me Tom II was moving a mess of coins through various wallets.

I'm in IRC quite a bit and can say Dave has been nothing but tolerant of the grief he is catching on Tom's behalf and has followed up on what he says he will do.  Keep in mind that he is the one that did the CC refunds, even the last ones off the clock.  Tom is the one behaving badly. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. He was just an employee dealing with a crappy situation.  He also did all he could to get the btc customers paid back, WTF do you expect him to do if he doesn't have the btc wallet? 

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Sorry Tom, but +1 for Scammer tag.  (You still owe me $ Tom, not for a refund, for time you agreed to pay me for.)  I've been private about it but you are acting like a scam artist.  If you cared about your reputation you could have talked to your customers, kept your word and you'd still be in business.  Hiding is not what honest people do.  It's just not.

Cablepair = scammer

So Dave has confirmed his involvement in an ASIC project no-one has heard of before which has nothing to do with bASIC, honest. Not fishy in the slightest.

Possibly, or Tom & Dave scammed enough coins selling vaporware to fund this new MegaBigPower.com scam. If that's the case, I assume plenty of sock puppets will be defending Dave vigorously here...

I have absolutely no idea, tbh. As best I can determine the OP is just confabulating unrelatedly.

Again, not a bad word about Dave...

+1 ... knew 2 weeks ago Tom and possibly even dave are fucking scammers.

Dave,

We talked on IRC, you changed my initial orders (#538 & #539) done via BTCFPGA.com to order #490 on bitcoinasic.net. You gave me store credit for the amount of the initial orders & I had to pay with a CC and a sum of $0.50 (because the webstore wouldn't allow anything else). I have been refunded for exactly $0.50.

Where is the rest of my money that was originally paid in BTC?

The fact remains, Tom is a scammer. He can still fix this by refunding everyone...

You have/had contact with him, what's going on?

Dave seemed pretty open and truthful about his actions, or at least wasn't caught in a lie (yet). I hope he's clean and will be still transparent in case Tom decides to become a felon.

I still think Tom has a choice to clear his name & everything. The window is closing though. This community has seen to much bullshit and I'm sure there are ways to involve the police in such cases, without costly lawyers and all that stuff.

What's the connection between Dave & https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/picostocks-100ths-bitcoin-mine-100th-140366 ?

Seems the 100TH Bitcoin Mining project popped up right when Tom closed up the bASIC scam and Dave seems to be the middleman in both. Is that the next Tom scam, buried behind aliases this time?

This had to happen, only question of when.

There are two statuses that apply to BTC refunds:

"Refund Requested" - means I got your payment address and put in on the master list of refunds for Tom to pay.
"Refunded" - means I verified that your payment address received the number of coins on our list (using blockchain.com)

If you had a CC order:
"Refunded" means I triggered a refund using the credit card system.

I believe Dave (buzzdave around here) did his best given the circumstances... Hence, he's not mentioned here.