Topic: SCAMMER: caradenada - page 3. (Read 11777 times)

I don't understand why cointell should be forced to wait any more than he already has. Caradenara has given cointell non-Entropay cards even though he is adamant that he has given cointell Entropay cards. I've just proven that they are not Entropay cards, but in fact Banco Do Brazil issued cards and belong to the Platinum credit card line. This is not normal in ANY case.

I don't understand how hard that is for someone to understand? If they were virtual credit cards they would not be classed as credit, but debit. You can check the BINs yourself.

Like I said I think you should just wait this one out. Give it a little more time.
I am still curious who is the merchant? you can message me if you do not want to post it here I want to look at his CC processing system I might be able to draw some more info off of that.

BitcoinINV seems to be suggesting that maybe it wasn't a stolen card and perhaps the government of Argentina confiscated the money.  This entirely misses the point.

Caradenada claimed to be selling Entropay cards, not credit cards from Argentina, and not credit cards from Brazil.  He gave me something other than what I paid for and repeatedly lied about it.  He is a scammer and a liar.

This should have nothing to do with his bank though. The fact is, you were given stolen credit cards which can be proven by doing a BIN lookup. He has repeatedly said that they were Entropay cards & this is obviously not the truth.

Let's consider for the most stupidest reason, if his bank was banco do brasil, they would not be classed as PLATINUM CREDIT type cards, they would be debit cards.

Who is caradenada's bank?  I doubt it's Banco do Brasil.  Even if it is, he repeatedly lied to me by claiming the cards were from entropay when they obviously were not.  If he had given me entropay cards then none of this would have happened.  His dishonesty cost me a lot of time and money.

Cara de nada - Scammer de todos

Yes, the purchase was in USD and I repaid the merchant for the chargeback.

I do know what I am talking about. The information you posted, it proves my point. Entropay does not use AVS in any way. If a merchant, such as yourself sees an order with something like:

123 Fake Street

then if I'm not wrong, won't your merchant put a flag on it? Especially if the address being entered does not match geog-region?


What? This has to do with Entropay....not Caradenadas bank. If anyone that needs to be talked to it's Entropay. Unless I've misunderstood you & the funding source was charged-back on, then in which case Caradenada still needs to provide a solution.


So you're just going to ignore the fact that he gave cointell platinum credit card details? Details which obviously are NOT Entropay even though he said himself that he gave out Entropay cards.


Yeah...the card is NOT from Argentina. It's from Entropay which is in Malta. So please, if you going to accuse me or not knowing what I'm talking about at least make it relevant.

Should stop talking about what you do not know.....

Settlement Information
Settlement Amount:   USD 119.00
Settlement Date and Time:   16-Nov-2012 01:18:27 PST
Business Day:   16-Nov-2012
Batch ID:   211223279
Authorization Information
Authorization Amount:   USD 119.00
Submit Date /Time:   15-Nov-2012 14:42:34 PST
Authorization Code:   
Reference Transaction ID:    Not Applicable
Transaction Type:   Authorization w/ Auto Capture
Address Verification Status:   AVS Not Applicable (P)
Card Code Status:   Not Applicable
CAVV Result Code:    Not Applicable
Fraud Score Applied:   Not Applicable
Recurring Billing Transaction:   N
Partial Capture Status:   Not Applicable
Customer IP:   186.XXX.XXX.1XX
Fraud Information
Fraud Filter:   IP-Shipping Address Mismatch Filter, Transaction IP Velocity Filter, Shipping Address Verification Filter, Regional IP Address Filter, Shipping-Billing Mismatch Filter
Fraud Action:   Do not authorize. Hold for review  <------<<<<< Merchant processed the order with out Reviewing it, when the merchant clicked the button to process the payment it came back with a "Declined." The merchant then tells the customer it was a charge back in hopes of recovering some funds from lost revenue. Why do I feel this has happend? cause it happend to me, but I told him and guess what he sent me the money right away. Argentina restricts movements of funds to and from the country. Thats why they can not use normal channels to buy things. If the argentina gov see's transactions coming or going from there country they have been known to "grab" the funds. How do I know this?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118169.40
Around post #55 with gusti.

Let me give you some info, I have talked to caranadas bank's and my merchant banker has talked to him and his bank.

Payment Information
Card Type:   Visa
Card Number:   XXXX2xx0
Expiration Date:   XXXX
Total Amount:   USD 119.00
Order Information
Invoice #:   0000385177
Description:   10 Coins Key
Customer Billing Information
Name:   XXXXXXXXX
Company:   
Address:   XXXXXX
City:   Resistencia
State/Province:   AK
Zip Code:   XXXX
Country:   Argentina
Phone:   
Fax:   
Email:   [email protected]
 
Customer ID:   
Customer Type:   
Customer TaxID/SSN:   
 
DL Number:   
DL State:   
DL DOB:   
Shipping Information
Name:   
Company:   
Address:   
City:   
State/Province:   
Zip Code:   
Country:   
Additional Details - Level 2 Data
Tax:   0.00  
Freight:   0.00  
Duty:   0.00  
Tax Exempt:   N
PO Number:   



Think you should give this some time, A couple of different things could have happened. But I do understand the grief cause I went through it with Gusti he thought I took his money :|. But in reality the Argentina gov had it lol

Just to understand how you calculated your loss: the purchase which resulted in the chargebacks were made with USD?

This is correct, Entropay has an non-AVS system where any address will work and oh guess what? I was fucking right.


Ban this scumbag, he obviously gave cointell non american cards to bypass AVS checks.

You're a immature scamming liar and I can assure you, you won't last long with this kind of attitude. I'm asking you to prove they were ENTROPAY cards when I clearly proved they were not because of a fucking BIN lookup and you're still asking for proof? Fucking idiot.

Xchidiotger - or xchstutpider, i can call you as i want you, ok?. If you have any problem with that, just dont read my posts, you idiot, you can suck my balls, ok?. As is obvious cointell has not even one proof, and the idiots like you starts to add new insults and acussations without any prove, you can continue doing wathever you want, i dont care. I tried to help here, i asked for cointell for proof, and after that if he is truth, ill refund the money he lost, but he didnt show anything to me to prove the chargeback exists. SO, you can do whatever you want, you want to ban me?, ban me, ill create a new account, or continue entering the site with any other new user. But i ll not respond here anymore, because you are offending me without nothing to sostain that acussatios, so continue discussing here this stupid things, and if you want, you can go to justice or file a legal claim if you have balls and proves to do so. There we will see whi has the truth and who is lying.

I assume entropay has a 'permissive' AVS similar to many Visa gift cards, where it will accept any address.  I don't know what Banco do Brasil does, probably no AVS at all.

There hasn't been a chargeback on the entropay card yet, but it's only been about 60 days.  Theoretically chargebacks could happen up to 120 days.

Xchidigoter? That's the best you can come up with? What are you, a fucking 12 year old behind his keyboard who makes plays on words? Why don't you post the screenshots here? How would Entropay know what card your talking about if you deleted it from your account?

Answer my questions, why do the BINs of the cards given to cointell match that of credit cards and not Entropay as you said they were?

Calling me an idiot when I proved you wrong just makes your case look bad.


Lol by that logic that means he owes you for the Entropay money lost and should be banned for giving you stolen credit card details.

I just entered the card number, cvv, expiration date, and my address.  It was no different than any other purchase with a credit card.

Regarding the purchases you made with the "stolen" card numbers, what exactly you provided to validate the transaction?

- Address of the card holder?
- The card's PIN?
- The card's CVV?
- The card's Password?

Xchidiotger, you are kind of stupid or dont know to read? I deleted the cards from my entropay account, i save the screenshots as a proof, just in case, screenshots i have in my pc and which ill send later today to other forum member to check, so try to be a little clever and read well the things i write.

Actually, the entropay card that he gave me never got charged back.  It just got cancelled after the first time I used it.  That's when he started giving me the Banco do Brasil cards, which did end up with chargebacks.

Are you stupid or what?

You clearly admitted you gave him those cards and I just proved their not ENTROPAY cards because ENTROPAY cards have the same BIN. Should I start making a list of all your lies? Alright let's go.


False, Entropay cards CAN be charged-back. I had a friend use one on Skype and later the account was blocked because he used a fake address etc so it looked suspicious to Skype's credit card processors.


Nope, he's asking for the chargeback to be cancelled, something that can easily be done with a little bit of communication with the Entropay team.


wait a minute....


You said you contacted them about it - how would you have contacted them about it if you deleted the cards? Furthermore, why would you delete the cards, wouldn't it make more sense to keep them as proof in case something like this happens?

It's simple the OP cannot be provided with any more detail other than the fact that there was a chargeback, the amount, the date and possibly time. Everything else is done through the merchant and not the actual site (assuming there is a payment processor here.)

Caradenada, why don't you explain to us why you gave him those fake credit card details. The last three cards you gave are NOT from Entropay. Let me guess, you tried to give him non-AVS BINs? So it goes through easily?

You keep on saying there are these images, but where are they? I've just proven that those cards you gave him were NOT Entropay cards. Where's your proof they were?

All its possible. Also, i could robbed a bank, have a machine to print fake credit cards, be a kidnapper, soo many things, but you are still standing up on nothing, all supposing things, fabulating things, its easy to make an acussation that way, fabulous how it works, you are really great. Why dont you get back to real life? What are we discussing here?