Topic: SCAMMER: caradenada - page 7. (Read 11777 times)
Cointell, thats all, im full of you. Go to a lawyer and file the claim, unless you have proves dont bother me anymore, ok?. Go find the proves and show them to all of us, you are still funding your acussation in words. "Someone told me blah blah blah". Show proves, emails, statements, something, because so far now, you have nothing. Again, if you show me something, ill send you the money back or do whatever i can to solve it, but now theres nothing to solve. Or you can go to a psicologist and treat your liar isuues.
In this case, you did not commit any fraud :-) It's your right as a credit card user to ask for a chargeback.
It may have worked this way even in cointell case.
It may have worked this way even in cointell case.
It is fraud. I got the merchandise, and a chargeback was made. I'm now going to have to pay back the money that caradenada stole.
Paci, its you versus linden lab, suddenly from one day to another they decided my deposits were fraudulent, they decided it by themselves, without asking for any info or documents from me. I sent you all the info you asked me and cooperate with you in that issue, you know i did it. If i commit fraud, why they didnt do anything since then?
Indeed, I didn't accuse you to be a scammer.
Anyway, suppose you bought your Lindens with several credit cards and bought Bitcoin with them.
Then, a couple of months later you ask your credit card company to chargeback those payments,
claiming that they were not made by you.
The credit card company would give you back your money, and chargeback Linden Labs, which then
would chargeback Lindens from therock claiming "fraudolent activities".
In this case, you did not commit any fraud :-) It's your right as a credit card user to ask for a chargeback.
It may have worked this way even in cointell case.
This teach us, again, that no one should accept any credit/debit card for Bitcoin.
/paci
Cointell do you have anything to prove there was a chargeback? You said the merchant complained, did you get anything from them? I've never used Entropay so I don't know what you can do as far as that goes.
They sent me an email saying there was a chargeback. They gave me the date of the original order, and the amount. That's all they told me, but it was sufficient to identify which charge it was.
I did contact entropay, and i told you about it cointell, i told you there were nothing from their side. Sadly i didnt save a copy of pm sent, i only have copy of pm received, but i told you and you know i did it, about theres nothing about your chargeback from entropay side. Again, file the legal claim, ill be waiting for it. I know i did everything ok, so i have nothing to fear.
Cointell do you have anything to prove there was a chargeback? You said the merchant complained, did you get anything from them? I've never used Entropay so I don't know what you can do as far as that goes.
If it were me I'd contact them anyway just to see what's going on as soon as I got a customer complaint, not demand proof. You know, good customer service and all that. It's also an easy way to prove the allegations are false, and save yourself a lot of grief when things like this pop up. Just common sense.
Lets try to think before write: who made the acussation? Cointell, so the common sense says he have to prove what he said, thing that untill now he didnt do. If he shows me a proof that the chargeback existed, ill contact entropay inmmediatly about it...
If it were me I'd contact them anyway just to see what's going on as soon as I got a customer complaint, not demand proof. You know, good customer service and all that. It's also an easy way to prove the allegations are false, and save yourself a lot of grief when things like this pop up. Just common sense.
If he shows me a proof that the chargeback existed, ill contact entropay inmmediatly about it, but so far now, he didnt even answer my PM requesting him that information, so i tried to work with him, to cooperate with him, but with this kind of people you cant.
You said you'd contact entropay two weeks ago, what happened with that? And I told you which charge it was, and what amount. You don't need any more information from me.Its been almost a month from the first chargeback as he claims, and only now he did this public post?
I gave you the opportunity to resolve this in private, before I posted this. It didn't get resolved.
Paci, its you versus linden lab, suddenly from one day to another they decided my deposits were fraudulent, they decided it by themselves, without asking for any info or documents from me. I sent you all the info you asked me and cooperate with you in that issue, you know i did it. If i commit fraud, why they didnt do anything since then? I mean, legal actions, they didnt even try to contact me, and didnt answer my emails. About cointell, if you insist in this, lets do things easy, file a claim in justice, there you ll have to show up your proves if you are telling the truth. I ll be waiting for that legal claim, ok?
Lets try to think before write: who made the acussation? Cointell, so the common sense says he have to prove what he said, thing that untill now he didnt do. If he shows me a proof that the chargeback existed, ill contact entropay inmmediatly about it, but so far now, he didnt even answer my PM requesting him that information, so i tried to work with him, to cooperate with him, but with this kind of people you cant. Thats why im getting angry and im being rude. Im tired of this people. So, dont judge me, any of you, unless cointell shows proofs, thats the only one thing i need to know that issue really existed. He can ask the merchant to send him a copy of the chargeback claim or an email about it from entropay, but he didnt do it too, so apparently he isnt interested in solve this too. Its been almost a month from the first chargeback as he claims, and only now he did this public post? And he dont even have something from the merchant? Thats the things i dont belive, sounds strange for me too.
Caradenada about a year ago bought a lot of Bitcoin using Second Life Lindens
at therock exchange, for about 50,000 USD.
All of his deposits were assessed by Linden Labs which marked his lindens as coming
from "fraudolent activities".
This doesn't make Caradenada a scammer. It's Linden Lab word versus Caradenada,
since they didn't provide any explanation a part from "fraudolent activities".
But if not a scammer, it surely adds up to the accusation: something fishy is going on
here, and I think Caradenada should accept to make things clearer.
/paci
at therock exchange, for about 50,000 USD.
All of his deposits were assessed by Linden Labs which marked his lindens as coming
from "fraudolent activities".
This doesn't make Caradenada a scammer. It's Linden Lab word versus Caradenada,
since they didn't provide any explanation a part from "fraudolent activities".
But if not a scammer, it surely adds up to the accusation: something fishy is going on
here, and I think Caradenada should accept to make things clearer.
/paci
Im not dennying, i just said that chargebacks doesnt exists, you fabulate about this, because i asked you for proves the first time you sent me a PM about this, and you didnt even care in answer my responde to that PMN so now you think its easy to make this public accusation. Look boy, the truth is that you cant sustain this thing anymore, just confess you are trying to get free money, maybe someone gives you some mbtc for free.
When did you lose your ability to work with your customers?
You are rude. You sound like a desperate scammer, attempting to get him to drop his case. If you don't work together with him and he does post proof, I guarantee you will be tagged as a Scammer pretty quickly.
Im not dennying, i just said that chargebacks doesnt exists, you fabulate about this, because i asked you for proves the first time you sent me a PM about this, and you didnt even care in answer my responde to that PMN so now you think its easy to make this public accusation. Look boy, the truth is that you cant sustain this thing anymore, just confess you are trying to get free money, maybe someone gives you some mbtc for free.
How exactly is he trying to get free money? All he is asking for is a chargeback to be canceled. The money would go to the merchant, not to him.
Im not dennying, i just said that chargebacks doesnt exists, you fabulate about this, because i asked you for proves the first time you sent me a PM about this, and you didnt even care in answer my responde to that PMN so now you think its easy to make this public accusation. Look boy, the truth is that you cant sustain this thing anymore, just confess you are trying to get free money, maybe someone gives you some mbtc for free.
Dear cointell, i kindly ask you to stop doing this things unless you have proves of what you are telling. This is a serious accusation, and im getting tired of you. Show some prove or shut up, ok?. Misteriously, no one of the other guys i traded with, complained about this. I think you are the scammer here, and you are trying to get some free money maybe?. Moderator, please end this topic as he didnt prove his accusation.
Since caradenada is continuing to deny this, I'd like to get some more information.
The visa card numbers caradenada gave me began with 406742, 418044, 498401, and 498431. Not all of the cards worked, and when I complained he gave me different ones. Can someone with a legitimate entropay account confirm whether or not these are actual entropay card numbers?
Does anyone have an idea of why he sent money to nyana?
The visa card numbers caradenada gave me began with 406742, 418044, 498401, and 498431. Not all of the cards worked, and when I complained he gave me different ones. Can someone with a legitimate entropay account confirm whether or not these are actual entropay card numbers?
Does anyone have an idea of why he sent money to nyana?
Ohh i really think entropay are non chargebackeable. Of course im not calling you a liar, but im only asking for proves, not only words.
Cointel, i answered you many times, i didnt do any chargeback, i asked you for prooves about it, and you never sent anything, only said your merchant told that. I really think you are trying to have some free money, and as i told you before, im not gonna send you again something you used. Entropay cards are not chargebackeable, so i think here your are the one trying to scam me. Otherwise, please send the proves you have, or just shut your mouth up, ok?. DOnt accuse me for something i didnt do. ANd to the forum moderator, please ask him for proves or close this thread, i dont like to be tagged as something im not. Thanks.
This is still an issue for you to resolve though. You don't need to be so rude either, you'll soon find that respect worth both ways. If you don't show respect you won't receive it. Obviously there is an issue here and to be honest, if this is how you deal with complaints & issues then it speaks for a lot of you as a person.
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Entropay cards are not chargebackeable,
Actually they are. Entropay can reverse the funds too. I've had it happen with my Entropay cards to, so am I a liar as well?
I think I know the issue here, Entropay is NOT a decent VCC that works well with any address etc. Almost every single merchant refuses the transaction after a few days when you use non confirmable information. Either way it's something you should contact Entropay about & provide them with the merchant information cointell provides you and have it looked into. Whether or not the desired outcome is reached, the point is you try your best here.
At least show the chargeback claim, to prove it really exists.
Thats not my problem. You made the accusation of scammer to me, you should have proofs to sostain that, otherwise you shouldnt do it.
Look, i only read words from you. I can also tell a history about anything in my head. You only tell a history, you didnt show any proofs of that words,you made the acussation, you should be more responsible and show some proofs. I can also say you are an scammer, but i didnt because i dont have proof of that.
Its obvious this isnt true, he cant prove the history he invented, so i ask you moderator to solve this accusation.
Look, i only read words from you. I can also tell a history about anything in my head. You only tell a history, you didnt show any proofs of that words,you made the acussation, you should be more responsible and show some proofs. I can also say you are an scammer, but i didnt because i dont have proof of that.
Its obvious this isnt true, he cant prove the history he invented, so i ask you moderator to solve this accusation.
Cointel, i answered you many times, i didnt do any chargeback, i asked you for prooves about it, and you never sent anything, only said your merchant told that. I really think you are trying to have some free money, and as i told you before, im not gonna send you again something you used. Entropay cards are not chargebackeable, so i think here your are the one trying to scam me. Otherwise, please send the proves you have, or just shut your mouth up, ok?. DOnt accuse me for something i didnt do. ANd to the forum moderator, please ask him for proves or close this thread, i dont like to be tagged as something im not. Thanks.
What do you expect me to send? I do not have access to the entropay account, nor do I have access to the merchant's bank statement. All I know is that the merchant complained of a chargeback.When I found out about the chargeback, I asked you to cancel it. I didn't care how it happened, all I wanted was the chargeback withdrawn. I asked the merchant if the situation was resolved, and their reponse was no, and that there was a second chargeback on December 4.
If this was an honest mistake, you had more than enough time to fix it. You have not done so.
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