Entropy has destroyed the intelligence of people so that now days there are many folks who ain't even smart enough to understand that God exists.
If you could provide proof your fairy tale exists, scientists and people would be all over that shit.
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If you could provide proof your fairy tale exists, scientists and people would be all over that shit.
if we can really! proof this one day this will be the last day for all of us 
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101 Proofs For God
A growing list of common sense Proofs for God.
Proof for God, #65 Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam
Genetic scientists seem to be in general agreement that we are all descendants of one woman and one man. This research was fairly recent, starting about 1978. They, of course, do not believe in the creation story of Adam and Eve in the Bible, but their conclusions are getting closer and closer.
In case you have not heard about this, it makes very interesting reading. But I think it raises a number of profound challenges to the Theory of Evolution.
The scientists base the above conclusions on the known facts of human reproduction, specifically on properties of the sperm and egg. .....
Full article read here: http://101proofsforgod.blogspot.com/2014/07/65-mitochondial-eve-and-y-chromosome.html
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101 Proofs For God
A growing list of common sense Proofs for God.
Proof for God, #65 Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam
Genetic scientists seem to be in general agreement that we are all descendants of one woman and one man. This research was fairly recent, starting about 1978. They, of course, do not believe in the creation story of Adam and Eve in the Bible, but their conclusions are getting closer and closer.
In case you have not heard about this, it makes very interesting reading. But I think it raises a number of profound challenges to the Theory of Evolution.
The scientists base the above conclusions on the known facts of human reproduction, specifically on properties of the sperm and egg. .....
Full article read here: http://101proofsforgod.blogspot.com/2014/07/65-mitochondial-eve-and-y-chromosome.html
science and Theology is of different field, so science should never do things such as proving that God exist because it is all about beliefs and faith. even if it seems so hard to understand only those who believe will do.
There can never be any scientific proof any god exists.
A belief because your parents told you is not proof. But science works "differently" in fairy tale land, I suppose. :/
A belief because your parents told you is not proof. But science works "differently" in fairy tale land, I suppose. :/
By your reckoning, there can never be any proof that outer space exists. After all, we can't see it. We can't analyze it. We can't do chemical analysis of it. It isn't there. Even Einstein said that space is nothing. How do you analyze nothing? Don't you do it through watching how things operate through and in it? Same with God.
We don't have a clue about how things came about. But the "stuff" that exists shows us that it was God. We determine this by analyzing complexity, entropy, and cause and effect.
Am I saying that nothing is God? Absolutely not. We don't see nothing spontaneously making anything. But if it did, then it would be God.
Well, we know actually a lot about outer space and unseeable stuff like air, different types of gas.
Because stuff exists, means god exists? That is not scientific in any way ^^. It is just an assumption. I could also say ... everything exists because of Chuck Norris.
There can never be any scientific proof any god exists.
A belief because your parents told you is not proof. But science works "differently" in fairy tale land, I suppose. :/
A belief because your parents told you is not proof. But science works "differently" in fairy tale land, I suppose. :/
By your reckoning, there can never be any proof that outer space exists. After all, we can't see it. We can't analyze it. We can't do chemical analysis of it. It isn't there. Even Einstein said that space is nothing. How do you analyze nothing? Don't you do it through watching how things operate through and in it? Same with God.
We don't have a clue about how things came about. But the "stuff" that exists shows us that it was God. We determine this by analyzing complexity, entropy, and cause and effect.
Am I saying that nothing is God? Absolutely not. We don't see nothing spontaneously making anything. But if it did, then it would be God.
You think they do because you are religious and you are trying to find proof for something you think already exists, that's how you guys always go about it, you take something and then you try to find evidence for it.
There can never be any scientific proof any god exists.
A belief because your parents told you is not proof. But science works "differently" in fairy tale land, I suppose. :/
A belief because your parents told you is not proof. But science works "differently" in fairy tale land, I suppose. :/
By your reckoning, there can never be any proof that outer space exists. After all, we can't see it. We can't analyze it. We can't do chemical analysis of it. It isn't there. Even Einstein said that space is nothing. How do you analyze nothing? Don't you do it through watching how things operate through and in it? Same with God.
We don't have a clue about how things came about. But the "stuff" that exists shows us that it was God. We determine this by analyzing complexity, entropy, and cause and effect.
Am I saying that nothing is God? Absolutely not. We don't see nothing spontaneously making anything. But if it did, then it would be God.
I guess my only question about this is, aren't there huge factions of people who are against the entire idea of genetic evolution? say it's scientifically proven that an Adam and Eve exists ... doesn't that blow a lot of people's arguments out of the water?
This being a science thread, one of the things you would have to show is which Adam and Eve you are talking about. If you are talking about Adam and Eve of the Bible, you would have to scientifically prove the Bible is accurate, and is the Word of God. This can be done. But doing it might take a few pages in the forum. It will also take a lot of scientific knowledge about how the Bible came about, the nation of Israel, the fulfilled prophesies, and many more things, some of which I have touched on in various threads.
May I remind you the Bible talks about flat Earth, 6000 year old Earth and talking snakes!!!!
When you look up the white papers of the original scientists behind the dating of the earth, and the notes about their white papers, you will find that they state that they set the dates of things arbitrarily, so that there would be order in the scientific investigation. In other words, the scientific dating of the earth and universe is an arbitrary thing. Later scientists simply continued this practice. Standard scientific dating is make-believe.
The Bible is eye witness accounts. There are no talking snakes listed in the Bible. There is only one, who was controlled by the devil, Satan.
People teach chimpanzees to talk. Even dogs can be taught to talk, even though it is difficult to understand what they are saying.
Look at the vast numbers of fossilized life from the past. The fossil record shows that there were 2 or 3 times as many forms of life in the past as there are now. This shows the job that entropy has been doing on the earth.
We don't have a clue about how healthy things where in the Beginning. The point is that they were extremely healthier than they are now. Adam and Eve were almost super-humans compared to people who live now. And snakes were so healthy that they could talk. Entropy has destroyed the intelligence of people so that now days there are many folks who ain't even smart enough to understand that God exists.
There can never be any scientific proof any god exists.
A belief because your parents told you is not proof. But science works "differently" in fairy tale land, I suppose. :/
Why are atheists rejecting the evidence and falling for the skeptical misdirection? The skeptical narrative of the evidence I presented does not add up, there are too many anomalies and eminent researchers. It is not so esoteric if it is being explained well, atheists should undertake a study of the trans-survival hypothesis website and other sources I have cited. I believe that to affirm the survival hypothesis would indicate that the likeliest answer to the god (s) question is "yes", even though there are many collateral assumptions with survival, it is better at explaining the facts. A belief because your parents told you is not proof. But science works "differently" in fairy tale land, I suppose. :/
There can never be any scientific proof any god exists.
A belief because your parents told you is not proof. But science works "differently" in fairy tale land, I suppose. :/
A belief because your parents told you is not proof. But science works "differently" in fairy tale land, I suppose. :/
I guess my only question about this is, aren't there huge factions of people who are against the entire idea of genetic evolution? say it's scientifically proven that an Adam and Eve exists ... doesn't that blow a lot of people's arguments out of the water?
This being a science thread, one of the things you would have to show is which Adam and Eve you are talking about. If you are talking about Adam and Eve of the Bible, you would have to scientifically prove the Bible is accurate, and is the Word of God. This can be done. But doing it might take a few pages in the forum. It will also take a lot of scientific knowledge about how the Bible came about, the nation of Israel, the fulfilled prophesies, and many more things, some of which I have touched on in various threads.
There is no such thing as outer space.
Extremely few have even been to outer space.
Troll? Troll.
What?? Badecker doesn't believe in outer space?
?The point wasn't outer space. The point had to do with science.
Very few people can PROVE that outer space exists. The average person only has the ability to listen to what others say about outer space. Sure, he can look at the stars, but what are they? Even the ISS isn't beyond that Van Allen belts, and is, therefore, not in outer space.
God, on the other hand, can be proven by multitudes of people all over the place. Cause and effect is used by all the people all the time. And all they need to do is think about it to see that this is true.
Simple forms of entropy exist all over the place. The fact of old age is a simple form of entropy. Everyone understands entropy.
Complexity in the world is by far the most evident of the three. Any child can understand complexity.
Put these three together with a little thought, and they prove that God exists.
When scientists and wise people put these three together, they can't help but see that God exists.
But nobody knows what that is up there without building rockets to go and see. People might have all kinds of theories that it is outer space, but without the rockets, they could never prove it.
Regarding outer space, your average, everyday person doesn't know what it is without somebody telling him. But your average, everyday person can prove that God exists with all kinds of stuff that he uses daily.
Once again ... the question here is SCIENTIFIC PROOF! Space was already explored and analyzed. We know exactly what out space is made of. And before we had rockets etc. we couldn't explain outer space completely, but we knew it was there because we could at least see it. And although no one is going every to the Sun ... we still know it is there... because we can see it and put it in perspective.
You can't scientific prove god because you can't see or measure him. Just because someone said, that there is a god, doesn't mean there must be one. If I would tell you that I have an invisible toaster, would you believe me? Would you just take my word, because I said so? There is also no scientific proof for that.
You can prove God because you can see and measure the things that exist. These things, by their existence, prove the existence of God, without laying hands on God... something which is impossible, anyway.
First of all, we are STILL talking about the SCIENTIFIC proof of god. You can't prove god's existence by things, that he supposed to create. There is no science in that ^^ ... and furthermore it proves nothing.
The universe is here. The 3 laws that I have been stating, prove that God exists. They don't explain much of anything about Him. But there is no way this universe could exist with those 3 laws intact as they are, if it weren't for the existence of God, and His making of the universe.
Now don't misunderstand. I use the word "God." I am not talking about the God/god of any religion. If you don't like the word "God," find a different word that you like better. Perhaps "The Great First Cause." How about "Prime Mover." Maybe "Absolute Being."
After all, God is way more intelligent and capable than we are. And since we have identity, His identity must be tremendously great.
I guess my only question about this is, aren't there huge factions of people who are against the entire idea of genetic evolution? say it's scientifically proven that an Adam and Eve exists ... doesn't that blow a lot of people's arguments out of the water?
i like to scroll this thread to see how many times my buddy BADecker
posts these links....
One of the greatest things that science is proving is that the universe is way beyond us and our feeble minds to understand.
One of the things that science proved long ago is that God, who understands the whole universe, exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.
everytime he does... i drink..
dude!! it's been 10 pages or so!! come on man WTF??... i got a six pack waiting!!
posts these links....
One of the greatest things that science is proving is that the universe is way beyond us and our feeble minds to understand.
One of the things that science proved long ago is that God, who understands the whole universe, exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.
everytime he does... i drink..
dude!! it's been 10 pages or so!! come on man WTF??... i got a six pack waiting!!
^ ^
See? Just by replacing a few words I can show how my brainwashed buddy doesn't have any proof at all. He just talks in circles.
If you simply think some god exists for some reason or other, that's okay. People make mistakes all over the place.
But if you are adamant that god exists, and forcefully express it like some of the brainwashed people in this thread, contradicting yourself and science all over the place, you are either a pure propagandist, or you should be in a funny farm.
See? Just by replacing a few words I can show how my brainwashed buddy doesn't have any proof at all. He just talks in circles.
If you simply think some god exists for some reason or other, that's okay. People make mistakes all over the place.
But if you are adamant that god exists, and forcefully express it like some of the brainwashed people in this thread, contradicting yourself and science all over the place, you are either a pure propagandist, or you should be in a funny farm.
The point isn't "some god." The point is a Something that is so extremely great and intelligent, that our word "God" doesn't even approach the strength and greatness of that "Something."
Nobody can PROVE any god exists. The average person only has the ability to listen to what others say about a god. Sure, he can look at the bible, but what is it? Just more words from people that can't prove it.
Space, on the other hand, can be proven by multitudes of people all over the place Cause and effect is used by all the people all the time. And all they need to do is think about it to see that this is true.
Simple forms of entropy exist all over the place. The fact of old age is a simple form of entropy. Everyone understands entropy.
Complexity in the world is by far the most evident of the three. Any child can understand complexity.
Put these three together with a little thought, and they prove that science is true, and space exists.
When scientists and wise people put these three together, they can't help but see that space exists.
Space, on the other hand, can be proven by multitudes of people all over the place Cause and effect is used by all the people all the time. And all they need to do is think about it to see that this is true.
Simple forms of entropy exist all over the place. The fact of old age is a simple form of entropy. Everyone understands entropy.
Complexity in the world is by far the most evident of the three. Any child can understand complexity.
Put these three together with a little thought, and they prove that science is true, and space exists.
When scientists and wise people put these three together, they can't help but see that space exists.
And space, being emptiness, doesn't do anything. So, it was God that did it all.
One of the greatest examples of people believing in stupid shit, is their belief that a god exists, even though there is contradictory evidence all over the place. In fact, religion completely fails at many places, and yet people continue to believe in it:
Cause and effect show that everything obeys the laws of science. We have found countless cause and effect operations in all of nature, even in basic physics. We have found nothing that we can say for certain does not operate through cause and effect... that is, that operates through spontaneity. This means that there is no such thing as "creation". The whole Theory of Religion fails at this, one point.
Since science understands cause and effect entirely, science knows that gods are simply a fanciful science fiction story. When it is portrayed as reality, god is a hoax.
(Remember - Baddecker is a troll)
Cause and effect show that everything obeys the laws of science. We have found countless cause and effect operations in all of nature, even in basic physics. We have found nothing that we can say for certain does not operate through cause and effect... that is, that operates through spontaneity. This means that there is no such thing as "creation". The whole Theory of Religion fails at this, one point.
Since science understands cause and effect entirely, science knows that gods are simply a fanciful science fiction story. When it is portrayed as reality, god is a hoax.
(Remember - Baddecker is a troll)
Part of the reason science keeps on looking for random happenings in the universe, is because they want to prove God doesn't exist. They all know He exists. They simply are not saying it.
When you talk about religion failing, according to the definition of religion at http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t, you are simply stating part of your religion. This being a science thread, your religious talk is off-topic.
There is no such thing as outer space.
Extremely few have even been to outer space.
Troll? Troll.
What?? Badecker doesn't believe in outer space?
?The point wasn't outer space. The point had to do with science.
Very few people can PROVE that outer space exists. The average person only has the ability to listen to what others say about outer space. Sure, he can look at the stars, but what are they? Even the ISS isn't beyond that Van Allen belts, and is, therefore, not in outer space.
God, on the other hand, can be proven by multitudes of people all over the place. Cause and effect is used by all the people all the time. And all they need to do is think about it to see that this is true.
Simple forms of entropy exist all over the place. The fact of old age is a simple form of entropy. Everyone understands entropy.
Complexity in the world is by far the most evident of the three. Any child can understand complexity.
Put these three together with a little thought, and they prove that God exists.
When scientists and wise people put these three together, they can't help but see that God exists.
But nobody knows what that is up there without building rockets to go and see. People might have all kinds of theories that it is outer space, but without the rockets, they could never prove it.
Regarding outer space, your average, everyday person doesn't know what it is without somebody telling him. But your average, everyday person can prove that God exists with all kinds of stuff that he uses daily.
Once again ... the question here is SCIENTIFIC PROOF! Space was already explored and analyzed. We know exactly what out space is made of. And before we had rockets etc. we couldn't explain outer space completely, but we knew it was there because we could at least see it. And although no one is going every to the Sun ... we still know it is there... because we can see it and put it in perspective.
You can't scientific prove god because you can't see or measure him. Just because someone said, that there is a god, doesn't mean there must be one. If I would tell you that I have an invisible toaster, would you believe me? Would you just take my word, because I said so? There is also no scientific proof for that.
Some of the flaws in what you say are:
1. Did you explore space, especially outer space?
2. Who is the "we?" You know it because you did the exploration? What about the rest of the people? Don't tell me your great scientists all explored outer space.
3. Einstein says that space is emptiness... nothing there. How do you see something that is not there?
4. But you don't really know what you are seeing when you see the stars. Electric universe has some points to it that are far better explanations than nuclear reactions in stars.
5. Many police forensic operations prove that there was a crime committed, without the criminal having been found. Science proves God exists, even if we can't see Jim, or lay hands on Him.
6. If we set the police forensics department to examining the issue of your invisible toaster, they just might prove it exists. But they might prove it doesn't exist, as well.
I am a little bit surprised why this is even a thing. Despite if god exists or not ... there can't be a SCIENTIFIC proof for the existence.
You make good points... unfortunately there can be scientific proof if you make up your own definition of "SCIENTIFIC".
I posted a test and observations of telekinesis seen on camera and on EEG, but skeptics in this thread tried to dismiss the scientific evidence:
http://eegym.com/can-eeg-tell-if-telekinesis-is-a-magicians-trick-2/
Skeptics in this thread see no fault in dismissing science that does not fit their own made-up definition.
the telekinesis nonsense is still being discussed? Oh good lord!! . face palm
your link was a good laugh.
look up the definition of gullible...
ya know, if I were a con artist, you would be my first mark...
ok! I'll get right on that...
https://sites.google.com/site/chs4o8pt/skeptical_misdirection
In this thread: "skeptics" are eager to ridicule the idea of survival and ESP but not the evidence.
People may have delusions and false, even illogical beliefs, but consider this: is the survival hypothesis actually mistaken for a fact?
I think the evidence speaks for itself but like any new idea it will take some dedicated study to learn the full context. I post information that I have found directly to this thread in order to ease the intellectual toil of those who are seeking the truth.
There are some important experiments that have been ridiculed by "skeptics" in a quiet cover-up; however, such individuals do not have a clue about why they disbelieve the survival hypothesis in the first place! I challenge atheists to explain the hard evidence and to start their study of this information.
The problem with you people is that you think that scientists always try to hide magical and supernatural things when in fact they don't, they just don't believe in stupid shit, simple as that. A lot of scientists have been interested in telekinesis and all that but everything in science says it doesn't work so they move on, only a few crazy people still believe in that.
I still don't know why you want to believe so hard in magic, you think life is boring without it or what is it, what do you gain from it?
Scientists, investigators and many more people would have addressed the evidence by now, I can't go around looking at all the claims for all the bullshit there is, you know how many people claim ghosts are real, the zodiac is real, demons are real, magic is real etc etc ? They are not valid, period.
https://sites.google.com/site/chs4o8pt/skeptical_misdirection
In this thread: "skeptics" are eager to ridicule the idea of survival and ESP but not the evidence.
People may have delusions and false, even illogical beliefs, but consider this: is the survival hypothesis actually mistaken for a fact?
I think the evidence speaks for itself but like any new idea it will take some dedicated study to learn the full context. I post information that I have found directly to this thread in order to ease the intellectual toil of those who are seeking the truth.
There are some important experiments that have been ridiculed by "skeptics" in a quiet cover-up; however, such individuals do not have a clue about why they disbelieve the survival hypothesis in the first place! I challenge atheists to explain the hard evidence and to start their study of this information.
The problem with you people is that you think that scientists always try to hide magical and supernatural things when in fact they don't, they just don't believe in stupid shit, simple as that. A lot of scientists have been interested in telekinesis and all that but everything in science says it doesn't work so they move on, only a few crazy people still believe in that.
I still don't know why you want to believe so hard in magic, you think life is boring without it or what is it, what do you gain from it?
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