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FudandShort

newbie

Activity: 11

Merit: 0

Quote from: drAGon925 on December 16, 2014, 04:55:12 PM

Tell us from which community you are, it will be more clear for us to understand you

I'm a boolberry investor and I have followed the crypto_zoidberg's work in development of his new currency CN + POS.
What is the problem with this?
But today I met fudcoin, so I created this profile and I met shadowcash by that thread lol

Wheatclove

hero member

Activity: 606

Merit: 500

Quote from: FudandShort on December 16, 2014, 04:44:06 PM

Quote from: battbot on December 16, 2014, 03:42:05 PM

Quote from: FudandShort on December 16, 2014, 03:14:31 PM

EDIT: zero knowledge proofs require a trusted setup. This allows the person who set up the system to create tokens at will if they didn't destroy the setup parameters.
this is why zero cash can't work.
It's the same problem with zero vert.

https://eprint.iacr.org/2006/389.pdf

You answered my question by citing Fujisaki.

The Fujisaki paper is basis for traceability in cryptonote ring signatures. The shadow token paper clearly describes a trusted ("special") setup to create an oracle as two hash functions. It is a deal breaker for true anonymity because it requires you to trust the person who set it up.

This is the exact same problem with all "zero coins". They require a trusted setup.

Section 3.1.1 of the Shadow whitepaper debunks your claim.

LiteBit

legendary

Activity: 1133

Merit: 1050

Quote from: CoinSwap-Jared on December 16, 2014, 05:23:27 PM

Due to little volume and trade history, coin-swap.net will be delisting SDC. Please withdraw from your coin-swap.net account ASAP. Thank you.

Regards,

coinswap-Jared

Well, you win some, you lose some

CoinSwap-Jared

newbie

Activity: 49

Merit: 0

Due to little volume and trade history, coin-swap.net will be delisting SDC. Please withdraw from your coin-swap.net account ASAP. Thank you.

Regards,

coinswap-Jared

drAGon925

hero member

Activity: 527

Merit: 500

Tell us from which community you are, it will be more clear for us to understand you

FudandShort

newbie

Activity: 11

Merit: 0

Quote from: battbot on December 16, 2014, 03:42:05 PM

Quote from: FudandShort on December 16, 2014, 03:14:31 PM

EDIT: zero knowledge proofs require a trusted setup. This allows the person who set up the system to create tokens at will if they didn't destroy the setup parameters.
this is why zero cash can't work.
It's the same problem with zero vert.

https://eprint.iacr.org/2006/389.pdf

You answered my question by citing Fujisaki.

http://puu.sh/dxuPD/d19af67743.png

The Fujisaki paper is basis for traceability in cryptonote ring signatures. The shadow token paper clearly describes a trusted ("special") setup to create an oracle as two hash functions. It is a deal breaker for true anonymity because it requires you to trust the person who set it up.

http://puu.sh/dxdR4/9bb07c34c9.png

This is the exact same problem with all "zero coins". They require a trusted setup.

systh

sr. member

Activity: 390

Merit: 250

Quote from: child_harold on December 16, 2014, 02:05:23 PM

Quote from: rynomster on December 16, 2014, 02:03:17 PM

Quote from: Automatic Monkey on December 16, 2014, 01:51:46 PM

Ugh, my 1.2 wallet just froze up trying to send some coins to my 1.3 wallet on another machine. Is this to be expected? Huh

I just tested my 1.2 wallet, without any issues.
Is it still running?
Could you possibly mail me the debug.log file?
[email protected]

^Is this guy great or what!? LOL

Is it just me or does SDC solve a lot of BTC's troubles?

What do you have on mind particularly? I'm curious about your perspective.

erok

hero member

Activity: 896

Merit: 1000

Avatars are overrated.

Quote from: battbot on December 16, 2014, 03:42:05 PM

Quote from: FudandShort on December 16, 2014, 03:14:31 PM

EDIT: zero knowledge proofs require a trusted setup. This allows the person who set up the system to create tokens at will if they didn't destroy the setup parameters.
this is why zero cash can't work.
It's the same problem with zero vert.

https://eprint.iacr.org/2006/389.pdf

I would pay someone a bitcoin if they could teach me what all that meant in that thar white paper. lols. I am serious though. DM me.

battbot

hero member

Activity: 616

Merit: 500

Quote from: FudandShort on December 16, 2014, 03:14:31 PM

EDIT: zero knowledge proofs require a trusted setup. This allows the person who set up the system to create tokens at will if they didn't destroy the setup parameters.
this is why zero cash can't work.
It's the same problem with zero vert.

https://eprint.iacr.org/2006/389.pdf

pookielax31

sr. member

Activity: 462

Merit: 500

Love the santa hat on the Shadow symbol. What a great gift this wallet was for the holidays! By the way great job devs this wallet is so much quicker and more responsive then the last builds Grin

Cornett

hero member

Activity: 700

Merit: 500

★ IT's Party Time! ★

Quote from: rynomster on December 16, 2014, 03:21:22 PM

Quote from: FudandShort on December 16, 2014, 03:14:31 PM

How can anyone be sure that there are no "phantom tokens"? Who is going to control the creation of these tokens? Is it all based on trust, are you serious? wtf

they can only be created by sending SDC -> Shadow, there are api:

>shadowcoind help anon
anoninfo [recalculate]
anonoutputs [systemTotals] [show_immature_outputs]
estimateanonfee [narration]
reloadanondata
sendanontoanon [narration] [comment] [comment-to]
sendanontosdc [narration] [comment] [comment-to]
sendsdctoanon [narration] [comment] [comment-to]

and in the wallet there is a chain data page, which shows all the anonymous outputs in the system.

Perfect

rynomster

full member

Activity: 164

Merit: 100

Quote from: FudandShort on December 16, 2014, 03:14:31 PM

How can anyone be sure that there are no "phantom tokens"? Who is going to control the creation of these tokens? Is it all based on trust, are you serious? wtf

they can only be created by sending SDC -> Shadow, there are api:

>shadowcoind help anon
anoninfo [recalculate]
anonoutputs [systemTotals] [show_immature_outputs]
estimateanonfee [narration]
reloadanondata
sendanontoanon [narration] [comment] [comment-to]
sendanontosdc [narration] [comment] [comment-to]
sendsdctoanon [narration] [comment] [comment-to]

and in the wallet there is a chain data page, which shows all the anonymous outputs in the system.

FudandShort

newbie

Activity: 11

Merit: 0

How can anyone be sure that there are no "phantom tokens"? Who is going to control the creation of these tokens? Is it all based on trust, are you serious? wtf
EDIT: zero knowledge proofs require a trusted setup. This allows the person who set up the system to create tokens at will if they didn't destroy the setup parameters.
this is why zero cash can't work.
It's the same problem with zero vert.

yourstruly

sr. member

Activity: 308

Merit: 250

thrasher.

Quote from: rynomster on December 16, 2014, 02:43:29 PM

Quote from: yourstruly on December 16, 2014, 02:27:46 PM

We translated Shadowcoin as 影子比, if another translation is already in use we can change it.

We've been using 暗影币ShadowCoin开发组
Someone translated it for us a few months ago

Thank you. 暗 is an interesting choice, I will talk with our Mandarin speaking staff and we will roll out an update.

LongAndShort

legendary

Activity: 1078

Merit: 1050

Quote from: ?? on ??

Only issue I've seen so far on MacOS... Running the latest version of the wallet and latest version of OSX.

When selecting how I want to send coins the colors are white on white.

Great job DEV team

Shadow theme? Mac always get the coolest looking stuff!

rynomster

full member

Activity: 164

Merit: 100

Quote from: yourstruly on December 16, 2014, 02:27:46 PM

We translated Shadowcoin as 影子比, if another translation is already in use we can change it.

We've been using 暗影币ShadowCoin开发组
Someone translated it for us a few months ago

yourstruly

sr. member

Activity: 308

Merit: 250

thrasher.

We translated Shadowcoin as 影子比, if another translation is already in use we can change it.

child_harold

hero member

Activity: 812

Merit: 1000

Couldn't help myself Wink

Ryno & Techovert. You guys are LEGEND… HEY NOW!

Automatic Monkey

hero member

Activity: 503

Merit: 500

Quote from: rynomster on December 16, 2014, 02:03:17 PM

Quote from: Automatic Monkey on December 16, 2014, 01:51:46 PM

Ugh, my 1.2 wallet just froze up trying to send some coins to my 1.3 wallet on another machine. Is this to be expected? Huh

I just tested my 1.2 wallet, without any issues.
Is it still running?
Could you possibly mail me the debug.log file?
[email protected]

On its way. Yes it's running, "not responding."

child_harold

hero member

Activity: 812

Merit: 1000

Quote from: battbot on December 16, 2014, 02:05:03 PM

Quote from: yourstruly on December 16, 2014, 01:49:58 PM

The Excoin BTC/SDC is now open:
https://exco.in/exchange/BTC/SDC

We also just released our open source Ruby API Wrapper:
https://github.com/excoinexchange/excoin_ruby_wrapper

We will have an open source ruby trading bot ready soon too. We also are already working on API wrappers for other languages.

Thanks yourstruly... awesome exchange!

Effing AWESOME!!!

p.s. WHERES MY MERCHANDISE? Huh

Caps, hoodies, keychains, mugs, balaclavas (lol) etc etc

GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!!

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