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February 28, 2012, 03:33:55 AM
#77


updated

OP updated to denote the desired denomination for calculation of repayment.

Creditors: check and verify.

Thanks for handling this, dollartrader (and imsaguy too)!

I guess you missed my earlier post: my repayment amount should be adjusted to $377 (and denominated in USD), for a partial refund of the USD I paid, instead of expected mining contract output.
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QUIFAS EXCHANGE
February 28, 2012, 02:18:56 AM
#76
Note: I just found out that I wont be moving into my new place until the 15th at the earliest. So liquidation would start on the 17th.
However, I have a somewhat good mental inventory so I will be starting prep on it all before then to get the ball rolling on this. Already made some pre-deals with full payment going to the fund. Just updating.
donator
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February 28, 2012, 12:25:57 AM
#75
OP updated to denote the desired denomination for calculation of repayment.

Creditors: check and verify.

Thanks for handling this, dollartrader (and imsaguy too)!

I guess you missed my earlier post: my repayment amount should be adjusted to $377 (and denominated in USD), for a partial refund of the USD I paid, instead of expected mining contract output.
legendary
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February 28, 2012, 12:19:27 AM
#74
just a reminder, you owe me $150,
my address :
1B5KoUCsZ2YNic6MxMrwbwPsuQ6Dz6ac1C
I can confirm this.
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February 28, 2012, 12:10:19 AM
#73
Apologies, upload didn't complete. Should be good now.




OP updated to denote the desired denomination for calculation of repayment.

Creditors: check and verify.

image appears incomplete to me... i've tried refreshing a few times... http://dollar-trader.com/shak.jpg

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February 27, 2012, 11:44:16 PM
#72
just a reminder, you owe me $150,
my address :
1B5KoUCsZ2YNic6MxMrwbwPsuQ6Dz6ac1C
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February 27, 2012, 11:27:13 PM
#71
OP updated to denote the desired denomination for calculation of repayment.

Creditors: check and verify.

image appears incomplete to me... i've tried refreshing a few times... http://dollar-trader.com/shak.jpg
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February 27, 2012, 11:16:43 PM
#70
OP updated to denote the desired denomination for calculation of repayment.

Creditors: check and verify.
sr. member
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February 27, 2012, 05:15:38 PM
#69
well, $3600 went to Astana via paypal. WiseoldOwl has about 40-50% of the funds sent by Payb.tc on top of one of our contractors taking both 120btc in payment and then stealing hardware as well.

Lee Don got me via Ebay for 350gbp despite once again, proof of shipment. And then I have damaged power supplies, mobos, gpus that can no longer mine, and not to mention the small stuff like the logo we commissioned, hardware purchased on the forum that was never sent, ect. There is about 3-5ghs of working hardware. That dosent mean thats all the hardware. I would assume, there is about 2-3k of partial rigs here.
legendary
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February 27, 2012, 05:02:18 PM
#68
So... shakaru you're owing over $18 000.. does that mean that you were scammed for amounts totaling $18k minus that 3-5GH/s of hardware he mentioned few posts back?
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February 27, 2012, 12:43:10 AM
#67
this might make it easier to visualize too:

dollartrader 7.08%
payb.tc 49.41%
gigavps 1.44%
malevolent 1.10%
nuke 0.26%
bitfoo 3.64%
bitsinmyhead 3.29%
ermsman 6.89%
Tril 1.52%
gzup 25.36%

p.s. thanks mason.
vip
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February 26, 2012, 11:44:50 PM
#66
Hey imsaguy, the extra 10 btc that was donated about... 3.5? hours ago is from me. The first time he was in trouble way back in the summer (before sdm was established) and trouble happened and he need some btc for loan I loaned him some just to help out because he got scammed and was honest about it. I told him he could pay me back whenever (with the literal meaning of whenever as in some point in the future). I've been talking to him here and there (in college so pretty busy), sometimes about bitcoins, sometimes about life. So this time, with everything happening I wanted to help him in whatever way I could so I'm "loaning" him 10 BTC towards paying off his debt. Loaning is in quotes because it is with the same terms but looser this time. It is I'm giving this to you, but in the future if things improve and you can pay me back then contact me and I'll give you an address. It is essentially a gift to help him out so don't count it as a loan.

Now for the late post reason. I sent the btc from my desktop at home since that is where I store it all and the internet was down until right before I had to leave for a study group. So I sent it but didnt' have time to write all this. Hopefully this clears up the question about where it came from if anyone is wondering. I believe that Shakaru is true-to his word in whatever worth my words count for.

I'm sure multiple parties are grateful for your generosity, so on behalf of all of them, THANK YOU. Smiley
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February 26, 2012, 11:36:38 PM
#65
Hey imsaguy, the extra 10 btc that was donated about... 3.5? hours ago is from me. The first time he was in trouble way back in the summer (before sdm was established) and trouble happened and he need some btc for loan I loaned him some just to help out because he got scammed and was honest about it. I told him he could pay me back whenever (with the literal meaning of whenever as in some point in the future). I've been talking to him here and there (in college so pretty busy), sometimes about bitcoins, sometimes about life. So this time, with everything happening I wanted to help him in whatever way I could so I'm "loaning" him 10 BTC towards paying off his debt. Loaning is in quotes because it is with the same terms but looser this time. It is I'm giving this to you, but in the future if things improve and you can pay me back then contact me and I'll give you an address. It is essentially a gift to help him out so don't count it as a loan.

Now for the late post reason. I sent the btc from my desktop at home since that is where I store it all and the internet was down until right before I had to leave for a study group. So I sent it but didnt' have time to write all this. Hopefully this clears up the question about where it came from if anyone is wondering. I believe that Shakaru is true-to his word in whatever worth my words count for.
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February 26, 2012, 11:19:18 PM
#64
Just an update.. There's been a total of 20 btc deposited to the collection address with no dispersals.  I'd like to see if I can get a copy of shakaru's order book so I have a way to verify all claims.  I don't want someone that's already gotten what they paid for to be requesting a refund.  No one likes a double dipper.
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February 26, 2012, 05:12:27 AM
#63
It seems sort of backwards/unfair to wait for people to come forward to claim their money.

that's how it works in most real-life company liquidations. (in aus anyway).
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February 26, 2012, 04:52:39 AM
#62
PM sent.
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I'm actually a pineapple
February 26, 2012, 03:54:31 AM
#61
Shouldn't Shakaru have a record of all his investors and the people he owes money to? It seems sort of backwards/unfair to wait for people to come forward to claim their money.

In fact, getting full records from Shakaru of reversed paypal transactions and the like would likely help clear up the whole business and make it much easier to figure out who's owed what (especially if paypal returned money to some investors as a result).
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February 26, 2012, 02:47:10 AM
#60
Putting in my support for imsaguy.
1BV7axeajeoVEU3qxwRJtsw4Zy6AEVED6C

Also a question for Andrew: what is the value of SDM's current assets, if any?
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February 25, 2012, 09:59:06 PM
#59
payment address for the record:

14HGYy23W7pk6UtaN9a3mijejtLR25ef2e
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February 25, 2012, 09:55:07 PM
#58
Well, payments can still be made in BTC to each person - it's easier, publicly auditable, and I'm guessing everyone prefers BTC. What I meant is that the value of the debt should be kept in USD. (Eg: If shakaru paid 10 BTC just now, he now owes $47.50 less).

i disagree. you can't generalise and say he owes $47.50 less, when some debts (maybe only mine) are BTC only.

imsaguy would have to make a call on the distribution of the 10 BTC first, and then say for example he owes me 1 BTC less and everyone else $4 less or whatever it works out to be.


Yes, of course, if you and shakaru agreed to fix the debt amount in BTC, that would work too. Incoming BTC can be distributed by converting all USD-denominated debts to BTC amounts at spot price and then distributing the new BTC proportionately. There will also be strange effects, like if BTC goes up, you'll get paid higher proportions, and if BTC goes down, the USD debts will get paid faster.

But this is definitely risky for shakaru if BTC goes up in value.
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