Topic: Share trusted VPN Friendly crypto casinos - page 4. (Read 2336 times)

Sincerely, in a sane world, any serious company will treat their customers and partners fairly, but if anyone you are dealing with is doing otherwise, then it is better you leave them immediately. There are rules in this world as we are not in a banana republic, only that many companies are overbearing and do as they like thereby cheating their customers unchallenged. Really, many companies are treating their customers unfairly, and this often goes unpunished because of the lack of due regulation and reports by the customers to the appropriate bodies for questioning and sanctions. No matter how many times they change their terms and conditions, they should be updating all the parties involved. Failure to do that is their fault.

This is money we are taking about, they have to respect their customers and not treat them as a nobody for their money, that is bad. If any customer could be so angry and could take them to the court of competent jurisdiction, it would be another story entirely, especially when the customer has the needed evidence from the beginning till the time of the discrepancy. I've had dealings with enough companies that are truly regulated and I know how they behave. They do it so formally to the point that you can't even have anything against them when it comes to the updates on the terms and conditions which they would have duly notified you of and made sure you acknowledged it before you can continue to work with them. That's how it is supposed to be.

You are right here, I have to agree that the cost of a paid VPN subscription is small compared to the money that players spend on their gambling.
 But when buying a subscription to a VPN, a player still won’t be sure that this will guarantee him a comfortable and trouble-free game in the future in a particular casino that is loyal to using a VPN.  The player still has the feeling that he is doing something not entirely legal or not quite correctly when he hides his location on the Internet.  By analogy, the casino also has a reasonable question about why the player hides his location.  All this creates a certain tension in the game.  And this is exactly what needs to be dealt with.  Specifically, so that the use of a VPN in a casino would be absolutely legal and comfortable and safe for any player.  But legislators are so far away from the adoption of such laws that there is nothing to talk about yet.  They don't even think about such regulation of the gambling industry.

The reasonable option would be to avoid the casinos that block VPNs and their IPs and look for alternatives if he still wants to play games. It is not like they force the players to choose their platform, as annoying as that can be. A dedicated IP VPN is usually not that expensive compared to the cost that you spend to play games, depending on each individual of course. So if you have no other options, then you can only take the risks. Hoping casinos change their ToS which will affect their capability to tackle account abuse is a bit cope imo.

This is a clear and obvious problem with using a VPN for casino gambling. 
However, if you take the player’s side, what can he do, for example, if without a VPN it is generally impossible to even access the casino website.  The player is forced to use this option and often simply de-controls which IP.  happens when using a VPN.  And in many cases, the player does not have access to paid services or it is too expensive for him to pay for this service.  So it turns out that the casino has reason to suspect that there are abuses when many players play from the same IP.  But of course, the casino knows what this address is and can begin to counteract such a player, for example, creating difficulties when withdrawing winnings to the client’s wallet. 
Of course, all this has to be taken into account when you use free services.

             -   Most casinos today do not allow their users to use VPNs for gambling. Or else the users may be banned by the casino due to the breach of the gambling TOS, as far as I know.

Now I don't know why you want to do that; doesn't it seem better for a casino to operate in the conventional gambling industry? Because if that's the only reason you have,
 it seems like I'm losing my mind, to be honest.

AFAIK, most of the crypto casinos doesn't restrict its users from accessing their sites via VPN network for privacy reasons but the main problem is with using free VPN that often uses set of IPs that will contradict with one account per person mentioned in their TOS and will lead to further issues like account suspension/termination.


Usually high priority withdrawals will be processed in next batch of withdrawals which can be in very few minutes up to 2 hours and in unusual occurrences it may take longer.

Instant withdrawal is different and its only available of few sites and if they actually mentioned instant withdrawal then it will be processed instantly.

The column I the tos of casinos that states that, casino have the right to change anypart of the terms and conditions without any notice to the player is a sign that their have 100% control to do whatever they want as long as the tos is consign and as a matter of fact some of them don't even care to check as how unfair such conditions are and tend to misused it to punish the gambler regardless of how much evidence he have presented or what his case is, this is the reason why we see some few call out of casinos by player who feels they right have been denied.

If they do that for sure that those casino did that change  their terms will be the subject of heavy discrimination from those people who knows their cheating done and they might lose a lot of current players if many people will say something negative about them. The long time earning good trust score became worthless as they exchange it to one time deceiving of those people who they want to take advantage with. We see this happened on some casino and after they did these actions their casino fail and the number of players and visitors is declining that's the reason why they totally fall and never regain back their reputation also loss those huge profit they supposed to get from gamblers spending some amount on their casino. But we really need proof on this claims so that people will find those accusation legit and they can make a decision either to stay or get out on those casino.

There are websites that let you check whether your IP is blacklisted or not but when you buy a dedicated IP from a "trustworthy" provider, I would say that it won't be blacklisted 99% on every website you check and I don't think casinos partner with VPNs to get the data about all the IPs they have to have a custom blacklist (and no VPN should be doing that either).
There are some VPN friendly casinos but you still need dedicated IP on them to not be flagged as a system abuser. They might tolerate it on regular VPN since they know that IPs are shared on regular VPNs but who wants additional problems.

By the way, can you name which VPN provider were you using?

Reputable casinos will not do it (change/edit) the terms/policies just to do something against players. Having evidence like what is suggested by 3kpk3 is good, at least you can use it to prove when the casino change the terms to be something against what is said by the customer services. Especially if the terms is stated in the terms page, having a screenshot of the terms or making an archive page for the terms page is a good evidence. Although bad casinos will always try to defend themselves but at least once there is an issue, you can use the evidence to support your argument.

What the heck are you talking about? It doesn't matter how many times they change their TOS if you have hard evidence against them and this logic applies to literally any problem in this world.

Only sites that don't care about their reputation wouldn't be fazed by hard evidence in any form basically.

Im saying the same thing on why you will really be using up a VPN which isnt allowed? You are really that finding problems towards your self and this is something that you do have those kind of considerations.

Just for the sake of answering OP question on which VPN is best then im using up NordVPN ( https://nordvpn.com/ )
You could also make use of other browsers on which offering some VPN service like opera browser. I have tested out this one in the past and it does work.
I cant just that know if this one could really be able to gover up our IP or would be able to mask it out completely.

Although im not so sure if they would be allowing VPN usage but i have seen some of my friends that its still alright and not yet banned after a long time
on making these services or VPN on which they do able to play without any problems so far. Just on what you had said that once you get caught
then say good bye into your account which its likely to be locked.

I said it a while ago and it is totally unacceptable, it shows the bad intentions of the casinos and the need for people to avoid them. Casinos should be fair in both ways whether the situation is in their favour or favours their customers. Can you imagine, a casino was fully aware that the customer was using a VPN but turned a blind eye to it when such a customer was losing and enriching them but the situation turns when it is time for the casino to pay the winning.

Such casinos are wicked and should be heavily sanctioned if reported. What annoys me most is that fair casinos would even check properly if such gamblers cheat their system one way or another to decide whether to give them their deposit back or not. But they often resolve to keep all, which includes the whole deposit, the wagered amount and the winnings. This is the sheer wickedness of it all, and it calls for a good reason why we should avoid VPN completely even if the casino says it allows it. Who knows, they might use that as bait to deal with the gambler.

Do you think the level of evidence you may have can still win over them when tit comes to using evidence, all they can do is to go edit and adjust what has been stated on their policy a d give out the new draft which states clearly that one is against their rules, what I will just advise is not to try in doing what may cause some issues with you and the gambling platforms because you may not have that required audience or opportunity of winning against them.

It doesnt really cost you an arm and leg on trying out to ask something like this on a customer service representative so that you could really be able verify whether its really that allowed or not.
It might really be not that be put up into their terms and conditions but if you are really that in doubt then you would really be having that kind of approach that you would really be asking up some questions.
You cant really just that make yourself that be so sure. If you are really that seeing that making use of VPN is really just that fine then go for it but if its not
then there's no point on using that on which you are really risking up yourself on getting blocked.

So far i havent experienced on using up some VPN on accessing a gambling site. If its prohibited then i wont really be tending to force it out if you dont like
to mess up yourself.

True, but there is a way to avoid such issues. Firstly, you should speak to the customer care about VPN usage and record the conversation(Screenshot etc) which would serve as evidence later on.

If the site cares about their reputation, they will have to release the winnings. However, if it's a site like 1xbit that doesn't care about its reputation, the issue will stay unresolved.

That's true. But you need to be aware that they will let it go only as long as you are losing and they are making money out of it. The moment you start winning, they will ban your account because you violated their terms and there is nothing you can do about it.
Personally, I would never trust such casinos. A casino or any service provider that does not follow their own rules because doing so benifits them can't be trusted.

Everything is written on the TOS on which we can be able to see on which countries are prohibited to play or make some register, even if its not really that mentioned about the use of VPN but doesnt mean that
you would really be making use of it. It is really that understandable and common sense that you should really be avoiding so. If ever you would really be bypassing by means of making use of VPN then it would be your choice and it would really be impossible that you cant really be able to determine on what are the probabilities that your account would be locked. Dont get shocked if that happens since you have violated their
terms and conditions on which it would really be normal that they would really be acting on whats the right thing that needs to be done. Its true that they are regulated and following those orders.

I can see that happen if the casino is under certain regulations that prohibit VPN usage, or simply because they want to make it easier to filter out bots or cheaters. I think the latter is most often the case, and I doubt you can do much about it unless you want to fight them in court. I don't think it is worth the cost especially if you use overseas platforms. As others already mentioned, they will just point out the ToS if you want to make a fuss about their rules.

Well maybe lets assume thay he's in restricted country so using VPN is really prohibited on that case since the casino may think you came on their casino just to violate their rules and they suspect you that you are doing some illegal activities that doesn't allowed on their casino.

If they could just able to avoid not to use VPN then much better do it since we know how strict those casino and if we got an issue then it may take time for them to resolve this. So to pushing ourselves away from that issues much better if we gamble without using any tools which its usage is questionable to them.