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legendary
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So, most of these Services naturally know VPN servers that are free and paid, and even dynamically appearing and disappearing.  It is for such complex VPN presence identification that AI is used.  
Can you share some articles/news/reports on this, or is this some insider information that is known to select users only? I mean I get the logic of how a company can use AI to filter out people, but I'm wondering if such a thing already happened and how they do it. I can also say my government uses AI to filter out porn by collecting a database of porn websites/casino websites out there, even though the reality is there are no complicated AI tools involved since they use a common network blacklist.

In my opinion, almost all casinos belong to the second group, since the presence of a VPN gives them another prohibitive argument in the process of paying clients the money they have won.  
I believe anyone who visited this thread should probably focus on the small minority since we're looking for a VPN-friendly casino to begin with. If somebody finds issues with those casinos then we can find out if they use VPN as an argument or not, then remove them from the list (if that exists).
legendary
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Perhaps we need a thread to discuss whether a casino should allow VPNs or not since the thread rarely touches the title or OP's intention of sharing VPN-friendly casinos or good VPNs for online casinos recently. Or OP can change the title to expand the discussion?

Good VPNs for access to casino sites and any other sites are primarily private VPNs on rented VPS. Meanwhile, using popular VPN services that provide users with free VPN can sometimes be quite risky, as you can get your account blocked. I mean, any casino wouldn't like the fact that some of its users would log in under the same IP address.
hero member
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Can you suggest some crypto casinos that are okay with using VPNs?

It's a plus if they're cool with KYC stuff or even better if they are NO KYC.



Regarding online gambling  my experience is not very abundant, however I have used various  VPN servers located in Europe at login to   Nitrobetting,  ETHplay and Satoshi Hero and they had allowed to do this.  Also I could add that when gambling I prefer VPN servers that allow obfuscate traffic with XOR to masque the use of VPN from my ISP.

All those sites are no KYC, if my memory serves me right.

BTW, Duelbits is also VPN friendly but it may redirect you to the site versions which depends on location of the used VPN server   .  Wink
legendary
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Perhaps we need a thread to discuss whether a casino should allow VPNs or not since the thread rarely touches the title or OP's intention of sharing VPN-friendly casinos or good VPNs for online casinos recently. Or OP can change the title to expand the discussion?

I think this is the case now simply because now AI can easily figure out all the VPN servers and those large businesses (such as banks that support banking applications) have VPN control tools.  And it becomes almost impossible to hide it.
Where do you get that info from? I've never heard of advanced filtering tools using AI to detect VPN IPs. Then again it doesn't take a long time to build a script and a filter as long as you have the database of IPs used by VPNs. I'm pretty sure all of them don't matter if you simply visit a VPN-friendly casino though. Maybe if you use cheap/free VPNs so your IP is regularly used by bots that will be a problem. If you buy a good VPN or s dedicated IP the chance should be low (as long as the casino is not planning to screw you themselves). CMIIW.
If we talk in general about the structure of information exchange on the Internet, then I would divide all Internet Services that work with clients, both paid and free, no matter what, into three large groups: first, these are Services that generally receive and respond to requests from any IP outside  depending on whether it is suspected to be a VPN server.  The second group is those Services that filter requests for those from VPN and direct ones from personal IPs or reliably known IP addresses.  But these Services pass and process requests and at the same time know whether the client is using a VPN.  And the third group of Services simply blocks the exchange of requests via VPN.  This group usually includes serious banking applications where KYC must be automatically completed.  So, most of these Services naturally know VPN servers that are free and paid, and even dynamically appearing and disappearing.  It is for such complex VPN presence identification that AI is used.  Naturally, few users have heard of such traffic filtering methods, since none of the specialists is interested in talking about the specific details of such identifications. 

In my opinion, almost all casinos belong to the second group, since the presence of a VPN gives them another prohibitive argument in the process of paying clients the money they have won. 
And sometimes it even helps not to pay the client winnings and can even save money on this for the casino.
legendary
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Perhaps we need a thread to discuss whether a casino should allow VPNs or not since the thread rarely touches the title or OP's intention of sharing VPN-friendly casinos or good VPNs for online casinos recently. Or OP can change the title to expand the discussion?

I think this is the case now simply because now AI can easily figure out all the VPN servers and those large businesses (such as banks that support banking applications) have VPN control tools.  And it becomes almost impossible to hide it.
Where do you get that info from? I've never heard of advanced filtering tools using AI to detect VPN IPs. Then again it doesn't take a long time to build a script and a filter as long as you have the database of IPs used by VPNs. I'm pretty sure all of them don't matter if you simply visit a VPN-friendly casino though. Maybe if you use cheap/free VPNs so your IP is regularly used by bots that will be a problem. If you buy a good VPN or s dedicated IP the chance should be low (as long as the casino is not planning to screw you themselves). CMIIW.
legendary
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Perhaps using a VPN is not a priority in terms of security that casinos use. 
Of course AML type checks have much higher priority. 

From what a perceived, they will consider the two under the same security measures because those that make use of VPN will try to use such as a means to achieve their personal goal at the detriment of the gambling platform and the security alert and measures taken by AML will also include the use of VPN in case of those that will like to play smartness on their network and bye pass away their system on certain restrictions.
In my opinion, VPNs are used much more by ordinary users who are not scammers.  And they use it for various reasons, the main one of which is cross-border options for using access to sites from countries where there are restrictions and prohibitive sanctions. 
But real and advanced scammers on the Internet, on the contrary, go online without a VPN or manage to disguise their VPN so that no one would know that the IP is fake.  This is precisely what removes suspicions of fraud on the part of the casino.  I think this is the case now simply because now AI can easily figure out all the VPN servers and those large businesses (such as banks that support banking applications) have VPN control tools.  And it becomes almost impossible to hide it. 
So technically experienced criminals now have to do without a VPN to disguise themselves.
hero member
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Perhaps using a VPN is not a priority in terms of security that casinos use. 
Of course AML type checks have much higher priority. 

From what a perceived, they will consider the two under the same security measures because those that make use of VPN will try to use such as a means to achieve their personal goal at the detriment of the gambling platform and the security alert and measures taken by AML will also include the use of VPN in case of those that will like to play smartness on their network and bye pass away their system on certain restrictions.
legendary
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There is another problem with using a VPN.
 This problem is due to the fact that when the casino understands that you are playing through a VPN for the casino itself, this means that you have something to hide.  And therefore, the reasons why you do this may first be general, such as a ban on games in some country.  But then you are breaking the law of this country.  There are also some secrets simply about the player’s personality.  But theoretically, he also violates the law, since he hides his income or expenses from the tax authorities.  It turns out that in any case the player is also breaking the law.  This is how I think, and it becomes clear why the casino treats such players who use VPNs as “second-class” people and clients.  Therefore, the casino can safely deny winnings of large sums to players who, using a VPN, cannot provide real personal data. 
And for example, KYC is just one of the options to refuse payment of winnings if the player is ready to confirm his identity, but has previously used a VPN. 
A reasonable question from the casino - why exactly did this player do this - will remain without an intelligible answer.

Therefore, the first thing you should do is to clarify all the nuances with the casino support before you start using a VPN. Personally, I think some casinos are fine with the fact that a user can go to their site from a country that is on their restricted list. I mean, the main thing that casinos pay attention to is abuse and cheating by some users, and this is what the casinos are really trying to fight against. Meanwhile, using VPNs is a secondary thing, and I think some casinos don't even emphasize it.
Perhaps using a VPN is not a priority in terms of security that casinos use. 
Of course AML type checks have much higher priority. 
But nevertheless, when a casino sees a VPN (and they can all understand this simply because of the well-known algorithms for calculating the real IP, including taking into account AI), then still such players, roughly speaking, receive the status of second-class players.  Well, that's what I think. 
By the way, many banking websites generally block the use of their applications via VPN. 
And quite often their websites themselves even specifically write that communication with them using a VPN is blocked and impossible.
legendary
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There is another problem with using a VPN.
 This problem is due to the fact that when the casino understands that you are playing through a VPN for the casino itself, this means that you have something to hide.  And therefore, the reasons why you do this may first be general, such as a ban on games in some country.  But then you are breaking the law of this country.  There are also some secrets simply about the player’s personality.  But theoretically, he also violates the law, since he hides his income or expenses from the tax authorities.  It turns out that in any case the player is also breaking the law.  This is how I think, and it becomes clear why the casino treats such players who use VPNs as “second-class” people and clients.  Therefore, the casino can safely deny winnings of large sums to players who, using a VPN, cannot provide real personal data. 
And for example, KYC is just one of the options to refuse payment of winnings if the player is ready to confirm his identity, but has previously used a VPN. 
A reasonable question from the casino - why exactly did this player do this - will remain without an intelligible answer.

Therefore, the first thing you should do is to clarify all the nuances with the casino support before you start using a VPN. Personally, I think some casinos are fine with the fact that a user can go to their site from a country that is on their restricted list. I mean, the main thing that casinos pay attention to is abuse and cheating by some users, and this is what the casinos are really trying to fight against. Meanwhile, using VPNs is a secondary thing, and I think some casinos don't even emphasize it.
legendary
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The key on here is that why would really be trying out to break and making use of VPN if those providers are really that prohibiting you to play their games because of some legal condition?

On site or the platform might really be having no issues but we do know that providers are stand alone on which if ever you would be winning up something and been known that you are a player which is included into their restricted countries then expect that there would really be that lock up. This is the main condition that you would really be facing on at the moment that you would really be that tending to
make use of VPN.

Better not to make yourself on doing something that could possibly give out those kind of issues on which this something that you would really be
needing up to consider from time to time.
There is another problem with using a VPN.
 This problem is due to the fact that when the casino understands that you are playing through a VPN for the casino itself, this means that you have something to hide.  And therefore, the reasons why you do this may first be general, such as a ban on games in some country.  But then you are breaking the law of this country.  There are also some secrets simply about the player’s personality.  But theoretically, he also violates the law, since he hides his income or expenses from the tax authorities.  It turns out that in any case the player is also breaking the law.  This is how I think, and it becomes clear why the casino treats such players who use VPNs as “second-class” people and clients.  Therefore, the casino can safely deny winnings of large sums to players who, using a VPN, cannot provide real personal data. 
And for example, KYC is just one of the options to refuse payment of winnings if the player is ready to confirm his identity, but has previously used a VPN. 
A reasonable question from the casino - why exactly did this player do this - will remain without an intelligible answer.
legendary
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I used a free VPN, it was some Mozzila addon. As I wrote, I mainly used it to play Pragmatic, that provider was unavailable to me in any casino. I used that VPN for a long time, but I gave it up because now in some casinos I can play Pragmatic without a VPN.
It is odd that I failed to bypass a captcha check from Cloudflare then, considering how some random free VPN managed to do that although there is a huge chance our data is at risk if we do that. Maybe I'll need to see if my browser cookies are causing these issues since I failed managed to access other websites with Mullvad easily.

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Of course, they will believe it is multiple accounts, which I believe must have violated their terms and conditions. In most cases, they will lock your account without further investigations, but the good ones with a conscience will investigate further to ascertain if indeed the accounts are being owned and operated by the same person. That's my plight in my last post.
I see, my bad. I believe that's correct, any reputable platform would at least allow us to contest their decision as long as you can be patient with their customer support. On the other hand, a customer can get annoying too (speaking from my experience doing some CS in the past).

For this I use stake site which runs very smooth through vpn. so I can call this vpn friendly site because I didn't face any problem here even though I used Free vpn.
Are you referring to Stake.com? AFAIK they don't allow VPNs[1]. Maybe you should be careful or look for alternatives as mentioned above. CMIIW.

[1] https://stake.com/policies/terms
sr. member
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...i dont want nor like to experience that if i do able to win up something big or lets say some jackpot (wishful thinking)

... i wont really be tending to deal up with things which are really that not allowed or simply being prohibited.
My maximum winnings are several thousand dollars. I have never been asked for KYC by any of the casinos where I have used a VPN, I did it just to be able to play some providers like Pragmatic, NoLimit, etc. So I had many deposits/withdrawals in BC.Game & Betfury (that's where I used VPN the most). I still play at those casinos without problems.

We are in the same situation, I use VPN most of the time and the main purpose is to open games by providers which are not available to be played from my country.
If your case is to play Pragmatic and NoLimit, mine is Relax Gaming and ELK.
So far I have no issue with my account as well although we have different thing here, you use free VPN while I use paid VPN because I'm worrying if I use free VPN then my account may get connected to other accounts.
Most people here seems to be too much worrying about using VPN for gambling while they have never tried it before or at least ask about it to the support of the casino.
Yes this is a common problem many times we can't access different casino sites or different games from our location due to which we are forced to use VPN. For this I use stake site which runs very smooth through vpn. so I can call this vpn friendly site because I didn't face any problem here even though I used Free vpn. I think it can be used without fear if it is a paid vpn. There are probably more casino sites in the market that are vpn friendly.  But I don't have much experience using casino sites via VPN
The key on here is that why would really be trying out to break and making use of VPN if those providers are really that prohibiting you to play their games because of some legal condition?

On site or the platform might really be having no issues but we do know that providers are stand alone on which if ever you would be winning up something and been known that you are a player which is included into their restricted countries then expect that there would really be that lock up. This is the main condition that you would really be facing on at the moment that you would really be that tending to
make use of VPN.

Better not to make yourself on doing something that could possibly give out those kind of issues on which this something that you would really be
needing up to consider from time to time.
sr. member
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...i dont want nor like to experience that if i do able to win up something big or lets say some jackpot (wishful thinking)

... i wont really be tending to deal up with things which are really that not allowed or simply being prohibited.
My maximum winnings are several thousand dollars. I have never been asked for KYC by any of the casinos where I have used a VPN, I did it just to be able to play some providers like Pragmatic, NoLimit, etc. So I had many deposits/withdrawals in BC.Game & Betfury (that's where I used VPN the most). I still play at those casinos without problems.

We are in the same situation, I use VPN most of the time and the main purpose is to open games by providers which are not available to be played from my country.
If your case is to play Pragmatic and NoLimit, mine is Relax Gaming and ELK.
So far I have no issue with my account as well although we have different thing here, you use free VPN while I use paid VPN because I'm worrying if I use free VPN then my account may get connected to other accounts.
Most people here seems to be too much worrying about using VPN for gambling while they have never tried it before or at least ask about it to the support of the casino.
Yes this is a common problem many times we can't access different casino sites or different games from our location due to which we are forced to use VPN. For this I use stake site which runs very smooth through vpn. so I can call this vpn friendly site because I didn't face any problem here even though I used Free vpn. I think it can be used without fear if it is a paid vpn. There are probably more casino sites in the market that are vpn friendly.  But I don't have much experience using casino sites via VPN
legendary
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...i dont want nor like to experience that if i do able to win up something big or lets say some jackpot (wishful thinking)

... i wont really be tending to deal up with things which are really that not allowed or simply being prohibited.
My maximum winnings are several thousand dollars. I have never been asked for KYC by any of the casinos where I have used a VPN, I did it just to be able to play some providers like Pragmatic, NoLimit, etc. So I had many deposits/withdrawals in BC.Game & Betfury (that's where I used VPN the most). I still play at those casinos without problems.

We are in the same situation, I use VPN most of the time and the main purpose is to open games by providers which are not available to be played from my country.
If your case is to play Pragmatic and NoLimit, mine is Relax Gaming and ELK.
So far I have no issue with my account as well although we have different thing here, you use free VPN while I use paid VPN because I'm worrying if I use free VPN then my account may get connected to other accounts.
Most people here seems to be too much worrying about using VPN for gambling while they have never tried it before or at least ask about it to the support of the casino.
hero member
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What pains me the most is the clash of the VPN. To some users, they will not know, and instead for the casino to investigate if the clashing that causes the allegation of multiple accounts is a mere coincidence, they will just block the customer's account and that ends this. This is so unfair, and to avoid it from the beginning is a very good thing.
I mean if you don't check their ToS before you create an account and play their games, then the fault lies in you. Most casinos explain their terms properly, and you can search with keywords like "VPNs", "proxy", "unblocking tools", etc if you don't want to read the full ToS.
I think you are the one who did not get the gist correctly. This is not about the terms and conditions of casinos but how VPN usage could put gamblers in trouble. Some companies may not allow the use of VPN, while some will indeed allow it, it all depends, but what I buttressed upon is the situation where the casino allows the use of VPN and was clearly stated in their terms and conditions even as you contacted their support staff to confirm it to be true.

But still, this can put you in trouble if VPN's IPs clash, that's what I was trying to explain here. In so much as you are not assigned to a unique IP by the VPN provider, you can't be sure that someone elsewhere is not using the same IP you are using as well. Now, if the two of you or more are gambling in the same casino, especially the one that doesn't allow a user to have more than one account which is the common practice nowadays. What do you think the casinos will take the accounts for?

Of course, they will believe it is multiple accounts, which I believe must have violated their terms and conditions. In most cases, they will lock your account without further investigations, but the good ones with a conscience will investigate further to ascertain if indeed the accounts are being owned and operated by the same person. That's my plight in my last post.
legendary
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...i dont want nor like to experience that if i do able to win up something big or lets say some jackpot (wishful thinking)

... i wont really be tending to deal up with things which are really that not allowed or simply being prohibited.

My maximum winnings are several thousand dollars. I have never been asked for KYC by any of the casinos where I have used a VPN, I did it just to be able to play some providers like Pragmatic, NoLimit, etc. So I had many deposits/withdrawals in BC.Game & Betfury (that's where I used VPN the most). I still play at those casinos without problems.

I used VPN in crypto casinos that stated in their ANN threads that they have nothing against VPN users, and as I said I never faced any issues because of that.
Can you access them regardless of the VPN service that you used? I have a hard time with platforms that use Cloudflare even though I use Mullvad, so there's a chance their DDOS protection gets triggered since I use the same IP as others but it's unclear.

I used a free VPN, it was some Mozzila addon. As I wrote, I mainly used it to play Pragmatic, that provider was unavailable to me in any casino. I used that VPN for a long time, but I gave it up because now in some casinos I can play Pragmatic without a VPN.

One of my favorite providers is ELK. They have a lot of interesting slots, and I can say that I have played them a lot. But since some time ago ELK is no longer available for me in any casino, the same story as with Pragmatic before. And so I think maybe I should use a VPN again to play ELK, there is no other way if I want to play ELK.


legendary
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Just a suggestion, maybe you can break down some of your sentences so it is easier for others to get your point across. What I get from your post is that you want to see if you can find a platform where they will enforce the rules only and only if you win something big, which will take a lot of time to test with a huge range of errors. Not sure what the find will be since you're clearly breaking their ToS if they stated no VPN or bypassing tool from the beginning.

I used VPN in crypto casinos that stated in their ANN threads that they have nothing against VPN users, and as I said I never faced any issues because of that.
Can you access them regardless of the VPN service that you used? I have a hard time with platforms that use Cloudflare even though I use Mullvad, so there's a chance their DDOS protection gets triggered since I use the same IP as others but it's unclear.
sr. member
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As you can notice it's from BC.Game ANN thread. There are crypto casinos that don't allow VPN, but some casinos don't have anything against using it. I used to use a VPN just to be able to play some third-party providers, and I never encountered any issues because of that.

It's hard to give any advice about this matter, if we decide to play with a VPN we have to be aware that there may be some issues… I strongly believe that if we are fair players we will not face any issues, my experience is like that, but who knows? If someone plans to use a VPN for playing in some casino he needs to check their ToS and even better ask their support about it. I used VPN in crypto casinos that stated in their ANN threads that they have nothing against VPN users, and as I said I never faced any issues because of that.
Actually im doing this but for the sake of curiosity but im not really that putting that much fund or gambling session into those providers on which it do prohibits out a particular user due to some location
restriction because i dont want nor like to experience that if i do able to win up something big or lets say some jackpot (wishful thinking) then on the time that they would really be asking out for some
KYC then youre surely be fucked up since you are someone who had violated up that location restriction on which it do really sucks on the moment that you cant be able to get those winnings just because
you have done something wrong on which you've been that wary that this is really very wrong. Into those platforms who do allow VPN then its good since you could be having the option
but as much as possible i wont really be tending to deal up with things which are really that not allowed or simply being prohibited.
legendary
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You're probably going to have a hard time finding one because most trusted casinos have it in their Terms of Service to not allow you to use VPN to access their casinos, I wouldn't risk it if that's going to be the case because they'll lock you out a bit too late, when you finally deposited something and you will find it difficult to get it back because you've breached their Terms of Service which you've agreed upon. Maybe you can be excused with the use of VPN if you're from a country that strictly prohibits gambling or the casino doesn't have any website there, that can be understandable but other than that, it's probably not a good idea to use one. NordVPN worked well for me but I didn't use it for casino or gambling purposes.

From their FAQs:


Source

This is related to bc.game sport, but I think it also applies to the gambling part of their platform.
Additionally, there are mirror sites available which may work in your country: https://forum.bc.game/topic/10137-the-solution-on-the-issue-with-bc-being-blocked-in-some-contries/

As you can notice it's from BC.Game ANN thread. There are crypto casinos that don't allow VPN, but some casinos don't have anything against using it. I used to use a VPN just to be able to play some third-party providers, and I never encountered any issues because of that.

It's hard to give any advice about this matter, if we decide to play with a VPN we have to be aware that there may be some issues… I strongly believe that if we are fair players we will not face any issues, my experience is like that, but who knows? If someone plans to use a VPN for playing in some casino he needs to check their ToS and even better ask their support about it. I used VPN in crypto casinos that stated in their ANN threads that they have nothing against VPN users, and as I said I never faced any issues because of that.
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As you said, if the casino is such that restrict our country, we should not play smart but abide by it. After all, such a casino is not the only caisno in the universe.

Unfortunately when gambling is illegal in your country, most of the top casinos would also comply and will not cater your country.
maybe there are some out there that will cater, but you have a pause for a while and question their reputation as there are only few license provider in the industry and most of them have a similar rules. That's why some people are using VPN to gamble, but it's cheating, so they have to be aware of the consequences but if they accept the risk and possible consequences, then that's really up to them, what they just like is to enjoy in any available ways.

I dont think casino works that way. Gambling is illegal in my country but so many online casinos accepting players from my country.
As far as I can see, most casinos are following the regulation by the license and their own terms so even if gambling is illegal in a country but the country is not on the restriction list by the license and the terms of the casino then it will be fine.
Using VPN to bypass country restriction is cheating ofc but using VPN because gambling is not cheating for the casino but it is cheating for the country's regulation/law.
Yeah some casino allows VPN users as I have seen this case couple of times even if they are not allowing the use of VPN but this is case to case basis , if we will contact the support they will allow us to  be excluded for that rules as the country restriction .
so I agree on you that in some cases this is not cheating but a special offer from casinos. but make sure to  record and have proof of that allowing because they can just deny that once you win huge amount so be ready for sideways of the situation.
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