Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On - page 4.

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Quote from: yugo23 on March 07, 2016, 06:29:23 AM

Quote from: arbitrage on March 07, 2016, 06:22:49 AM

No i didn't said we must catch people on the street and jail them.
This is something you pushing through this conversation.. I'm telling there's strong Lobby behind all this movement for "their rights". So we must distinguish between human rights and supporting of perversions.

You're all saying that but who is lobbying?
Most people, like us, just want it to be recognized that having weird dreams doesn't make you a monster!

Acts can be judged only. Not the thoughts.

And some still believe the movement for pedophiles "RIGHTS" is not marching...?

The title of this thread has been proven accurate further.

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Quote from: arbitrage on March 07, 2016, 06:29:34 AM

Quote from: valta4065 on March 07, 2016, 06:14:00 AM

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1. Children must have more attentions, and whole society must be included.
Do you know how many kids are neglected by their parents?
http://www.parentsprotect.co.uk/quick_facts.htm
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Irrelevant. No link with our subject. It's like saying "I want people to love each other". It's beautiful but irrelevant.

This is not relevant because showing how many abusing of children are coming from
their " safe places" from their parents and their cousins..
Not only from internet and from strangers..

Yeah great and? What's your point?

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Quote from: yugo23 on March 07, 2016, 06:29:23 AM

You're all saying that but who is lobbying?
Most people, like us, just want it to be recognized that having weird dreams doesn't make you a monster!

Acts can be judged only. Not the thoughts.

I just posted earlier one YouTube link about Hollywood. You can watch it and you will see there is some certain group of people that have enormous money and power so they can do everything they wants.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14122515

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Quote from: valta4065 on March 07, 2016, 06:14:00 AM

"
1. Children must have more attentions, and whole society must be included.
Do you know how many kids are neglected by their parents?
http://www.parentsprotect.co.uk/quick_facts.htm
"

Irrelevant. No link with our subject. It's like saying "I want people to love each other". It's beautiful but irrelevant.

This is not relevant because showing how many abusing of children are coming from
their " safe places" from their parents and their cousins..
Not only from internet and from strangers..

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Quote from: arbitrage on March 07, 2016, 06:22:49 AM

No i didn't said we must catch people on the street and jail them.
This is something you pushing through this conversation.. I'm telling there's strong Lobby behind all this movement for "their rights". So we must distinguish between human rights and supporting of perversions.

You're all saying that but who is lobbying?
Most people, like us, just want it to be recognized that having weird dreams doesn't make you a monster!

Acts can be judged only. Not the thoughts.

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No i didn't said we must catch people on the street and jail them.
This is something you pushing through this conversation.. I'm telling there's strong Lobby behind all this movement for "their rights". So we must distinguish between human rights and supporting of perversions.

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Quote from: arbitrage on March 07, 2016, 05:49:45 AM

1. Children must have more attentions, and whole society must be included.
Do you know how many kids are neglected by their parents?
http://www.parentsprotect.co.uk/quick_facts.htm

Irrelevant. No link with our subject. It's like saying "I want people to love each other". It's beautiful but irrelevant.

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2. It depends on the severity of the case, many of which have appeared in "TV Show"
mentioned earlier didnt get 15 years. Yes they did not abuse child but their intent was that! So please stop be smart.
He is still predator and he will strike again

So you want anyone who ever stepped on the line ever to be put in jail until he dies?
Again, what will you do once there is more people in jail than out...

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3. Yes i'm against dolls.. And any other movement about their rights!
For me this is same as letting them freely watch CP.

Not the same simply because CP implies that somewhere a child has been abused. So the CP is created. Hence it can't be tolerated. Whereas the dolls harm absolutely no one.

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And how your post can contribute this topic?

By explaining why what you're asking is nothing but true and complete dictatorship. You might think it's just "to protect children" but you violent every human rights by asking for people to be put in jails for having weird dreams.

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Quote from: valta4065 on March 07, 2016, 05:12:57 AM

Well first punishing after crime is the only way to go. How would you find criminals if they don't have comited the crime yet?

Second stop spreading bullshit, 3 years for pedophilia? Kidding me? it's 15 years minima, sometimes more.

Third: I'm not proposing anything, you're the one asking for new things to be done not me.

1. Children must have more attentions, and whole society must be included.
Do you know how many kids are neglected by their parents?
http://www.parentsprotect.co.uk/quick_facts.htm

2. It depends on the severity of the case, many of which have appeared in "TV Show"
mentioned earlier didnt get 15 years. Yes they did not abuse child but their intent was that! So please stop be smart.
He is still predator and he will strike again

"Morrison has been sentenced to nine months in jail under a plea agreement, becoming our first conviction from Dateline"http://www.perverted-justice.com/?con=donni1957_male

3. Yes i'm against dolls.. And any other movement about their rights!
For me this is same as letting them freely watch CP.

And how your post can contribute this topic?

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Quote from: arbitrage on March 07, 2016, 05:08:19 AM

Quote from: valta4065 on March 07, 2016, 04:49:44 AM

Nobody said that here. But I'm not really surprised by your attitude and your "arguments" Wilikon. They're as usual: poor and shady.

You can twist words and make false quotes as long as you want. What we said is the truth: you can't put someone in jail for an uncomited crime! Never. Otherwise it's no longer justice, it's simple dictatorship.

OK
But what then you are proposing to be done?
Punish after crime?
So we just need to awaits he rapes children and if police caught him after 5th times
he will prosecuted and marked as sexual offender..
3 years in jail and he's on the road again..

Well first punishing after crime is the only way to go. How would you find criminals if they don't have comited the crime yet?

Second stop spreading bullshit, 3 years for pedophilia? Kidding me? it's 15 years minima, sometimes more.

Third: I'm not proposing anything, you're the one asking for new things to be done not me.

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Quote from: valta4065 on March 07, 2016, 04:49:44 AM

Nobody said that here. But I'm not really surprised by your attitude and your "arguments" Wilikon. They're as usual: poor and shady.

You can twist words and make false quotes as long as you want. What we said is the truth: you can't put someone in jail for an uncomited crime! Never. Otherwise it's no longer justice, it's simple dictatorship.

OK
But what then you are proposing to be done?
Punish after crime?
So we just need to awaits he rapes children and if police caught him after 5th times
he will prosecuted and marked as sexual offender..
3 years in jail and he's on the road again..

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Quote from: Wilikon on March 06, 2016, 11:25:35 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on March 05, 2016, 01:11:21 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on March 05, 2016, 11:00:07 AM

Mayor-Turned-Child-Sex Offender Arrested near School For 3rd Time

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I guess he needs "more rights"...

Roll Eyes

This thread is about pedophile rights.
Why do you say this convicted Child-Sex Offender needs more rights?

"Because, until he does it for a 4th time, he is just a human being, like you and me..."

Roll Eyes

Nobody said that here. But I'm not really surprised by your attitude and your "arguments" Wilikon. They're as usual: poor and shady.

You can twist words and make false quotes as long as you want. What we said is the truth: you can't put someone in jail for an uncomited crime! Never. Otherwise it's no longer justice, it's simple dictatorship.

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Quote from: Wilikon on March 05, 2016, 08:39:04 AM

Thank you. Posting my post again to prove your point:

Simple jedi mind trick by the pedophile defenders: substitute the word "predator" with the word "criminal".

A - pedophiles are predators
B - having pedophile dreams is not a crime
A - pedophiles should be seen as a threat to children, as predators
B - you cannot criminalize people for having dreams
A - pedophiles are predators dreaming of abusing small children
B - so what, this is not a crime and it should not be
A - are pedophiles predators?
B - no one is defending people abusing children here, but they should have the right not to be seen as sick because they have dreams, just like everyone else.
A - are pedophiles predators?
B - they are not criminals

You did exactly that.

It is that simple.

Exactly. You would like to put everyone having weir dreams or sick ideas behind the bars?

Gonna be hard. And long. What will you do once everyone is in jail?

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"There are 799,041 Registered Sex Offenders in the United States (2015)."
http://puresight.com/Pedophiles/Online-Predators/online-predators-statistics.html#sthash.FTOyYclp.dpuf

"Most sexual offenders think about their crimes ahead of time. Sexual assault is rarely an impulsive act although sometimes sex offenders take advantage of opportunity to offend. Offenders most often know their victims and use these relationships to set up situations in which a chosen victim can be sexually assaulted"
https://depts.washington.edu/hcsats/PDF/infobrochures/sexual_offenders.pdf

"At least 8 million children go missing each year (International Centre for Missing & Exploited Children)"
http://www.internetsafety101.org/predatorstatistics.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvlle8qQag8
"Former child actor Corey Feldman (Stand By Me, The Goonies, Gremlins) exposes child abuse in Hollywood"

When you read more about this topic you will find out there is organized crime involved in child abuse and child pornoraphy. They have their very powerfull loby in the shadow!

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Quote from: Wilikon on March 06, 2016, 11:25:35 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on March 05, 2016, 01:11:21 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on March 05, 2016, 11:00:07 AM

Mayor-Turned-Child-Sex Offender Arrested near School For 3rd Time

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I guess he needs "more rights"...

Roll Eyes

This thread is about pedophile rights.
Why do you say this convicted Child-Sex Offender needs more rights?

"Because, until he does it for a 4th time, he is just a human being, like you and me..."

Roll Eyes

Who are you quoting? Or is that your opinion?

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Quote from: Holdaaja on March 05, 2016, 01:11:21 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on March 05, 2016, 11:00:07 AM

Mayor-Turned-Child-Sex Offender Arrested near School For 3rd Time

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I guess he needs "more rights"...

Roll Eyes

This thread is about pedophile rights.
Why do you say this convicted Child-Sex Offender needs more rights?

"Because, until he does it for a 4th time, he is just a human being, like you and me..."

Roll Eyes

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Quote from: arbitrage on March 06, 2016, 07:12:48 AM

@Holdaaja

Only can tell that, you are fighting for their rights better than they shall.

constant twisting everything I said you trying to show that I'm wrong, but the fact is you defending them all the time!

I believe you have honest reasons to defend child molesters and predators.

Where have I defended child molesters or predators?
And you say I am twisting your words? Grin

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@Holdaaja

Only can tell that, you are fighting for their rights better than they shall.

constant twisting everything I said you trying to show that I'm wrong, but the fact is you defending them all the time!

I believe you have honest reasons to defend child molesters and predators.

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Quote from: Holdaaja on March 06, 2016, 06:51:30 AM

"Small number of them will show their dignity and morality and never will do such things."

Let me rephrase then. Now I don't need source, right?

Did you know that only very very small part of pedophiles actually do anything illegal in their life?

Hey this is my guessing and i have said "small number" of those sick people will never harm child.
Am i wrong?
I have never said anything about percentage and even try to talk about actual numbers..
I don't see what are you trying to say?

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Quote from: arbitrage on March 06, 2016, 06:44:48 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on March 06, 2016, 06:40:42 AM

Whaaat? We need to have sources now?
Didn't see you having any either Roll Eyes

No, you have talked about numbers. My attitude is clear.
If we talking about actual numbers we must post references.

"Small number of them will show their dignity and morality and never will do such things."

Let me rephrase then. Now I don't need source, right?

Did you know that only very very small part of pedophiles actually do anything illegal in their life?

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Quote from: Holdaaja on March 06, 2016, 06:40:42 AM

Whaaat? We need to have sources now?
Didn't see you having any either Roll Eyes

No, you have talked about numbers. My attitude is clear.
If we talking about actual numbers we must post references.

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