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Topic: Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On - page 5. (Read 17005 times)

legendary
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Did you know that only 0.001% of pedophiles actually do anything illegal in their life?
Where did you find those records?  I only see aggravation of this problem.

Internet, social networks,mobile phones.. There is many ways to get in contact with kids.
Parents must be more careful, and they must do more for safety of their kids.
They are neglecting kids because they have too much to work, but this cannot be excused.

Whaaat? We need to have sources now?
Didn't see you having any either Roll Eyes
hero member
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Did you know that only 0.001% of pedophiles actually do anything illegal in their life?
Where did you find those records?  I only see aggravation of this problem.

Internet, social networks,mobile phones.. There is many ways to get in contact with kids.
Parents must be more careful, and they must do more for safety of their kids.
They are neglecting kids because they have too much to work, but this cannot be excused.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
People don't realize this is psychiatric disorder that must be cured and if not will lead to child abuse , this is certain. Small number of them will show their dignity and morality and never will do such things. We can't rely on small numbers.
Rest of them will show up their real  face of predator  soon as they have chance.

I'm saying this disorder ultimately leads to child abuse, we cannot talk about human rights in those conditions..



Did you know that only 0.001% of pedophiles actually do anything illegal in their life?
hero member
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People don't realize this is psychiatric disorder that must be cured and if not will lead to child abuse , this is certain. Small number of them will show their dignity and morality and never will do such things. We can't rely on small numbers.
Rest of them will show up their real  face of predator  soon as they have chance.

I'm saying this disorder ultimately leads to child abuse, we cannot talk about human rights in those conditions..

legendary
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Mayor-Turned-Child-Sex Offender Arrested near School For 3rd Time

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I guess he needs "more rights"...

 Roll Eyes

This thread is about pedophile rights.
Why do you say this convicted Child-Sex Offender needs more rights?
hero member
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He probably don't have any bad intentions?

He is human being and he is free to walk whatever he wants, and his human rights are sacred!

If nobody recognizing flaw in system then we deserve to live in such world.

Child protection and care must be on the first place!
This is our ethical and moral duty as parents, neighbors, teachers..
We must fight those twisted movements!
legendary
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Mayor-Turned-Child-Sex Offender Arrested near School For 3rd Time







Former Pittsburg, California mayor Marcelino Vasquez — a convicted sex offender — was arrested outside a school last week for the third time in five months.

Pittsburg police Capt. Ron Raman stated that Vasquez was arrested near Marina Vista Elementary last week, according to the Contra Costa Times.

Vasquez was a rising political figure until 1972 ,when he was convicted for lewd or lascivious acts with a child under 14 years of age. The Times reports that Vasquez served on the Pittsburg City Council and “took a turn as mayor” in the 1960s. After being caught for child molestation, his political career crashed.

The California sex offender database lists the date of last conviction for Vasquez as 1972; he was released in 1973. He is listed as a transient.

The former political figure has been charged repeatedly for violations related to his sex offender status, according to the Times. Charges include failing to register as a sex offender yearly with local law enforcement. Authorities indicated that he has been living in the East Contra Costa area and frequents a church near the school. However local school district officials say Vasquez has not actually come into contact with children during these occasions.

Vasquez was convicted for failing to register as a sex offender in 2013 and 2014. The Times stated that he received a 90-day sentence for each conviction. For the 2014 conviction, he also received probation, which ended in May 2015.

Court records referenced in the Times report show that Vasquez also had three drug-related convictions in the 1990s.


http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/03/04/mayor-turned-child-sex-offender-arrested-outside-school-for-third-time/


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I guess he needs "more rights"...

 Roll Eyes


legendary
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What's dangerous is a room full of people with no idea spouting opinion as factual usefulness. All the hate doesn't mean anything but hate.

Whether or not pedophilia has any usefulness is a conversation that is not possible.
Whether it is possible to be a respectable pedophile is another converstaion that must not be had.

These conversations must never be had, pedophilia must be destroyed by my internet powers!
readmyblog : myawesomeopinion-yetanotherignorantasshole.com/fuckyoupedofile-i-have-a-blog


You could have a direct link here so people don't have to use google.



Read the website name again and think about it real hard and you may get the point Cheesy


Why not have a real blog post?

legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
What's dangerous is a room full of people with no idea spouting opinion as factual usefulness. All the hate doesn't mean anything but hate.

Whether or not pedophilia has any usefulness is a conversation that is not possible.
Whether it is possible to be a respectable pedophile is another converstaion that must not be had.

These conversations must never be had, pedophilia must be destroyed by my internet powers!
readmyblog : myawesomeopinion-yetanotherignorantasshole.com/fuckyoupedofile-i-have-a-blog


You could have a direct link here so people don't have to use google.



Read the website name again and think about it real hard and you may get the point Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000



Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On: Thread title 100% accurate. Everybody agrees now.




Yep, didn't expect to come out of this thread agreeing with you... this fucking forum.


It's OK. You can fight me in another battle, in another thread.
 Smiley


The people fought to say the title was a lie. Then the fought to say the gay lobby was right to distance themselves from nambla. Then the same people said being born gay is a natural thing. Then the next logical step was to not see pedophiles as predators but as "born this way" humans. Then it was: for this to happen, a movement needs to march on, to change people's mind.

Hmm...

Now in their mind the pedophile defenders are accepting the fact the gay lobby was wrong to reject nambla as part of their minority group, as we are all humans. Not predators.

 Roll Eyes






This is where things go south in your argument.  Pedophiles should be seen as potential predators and I don't think many people in this thread disagree with that, but they should also be seen as people that were born with a disorder to make them attracted to kids, and focus on all the possible alternatives you can give since you can't convict somebody on a thought crime.


@Yugo, I don't see what your issue is with To Catch a Predator at all.  I see it as the same as trying to bait out a potential rapist in a way that the show could show things to look out for.  The key is that you wouldn't appear on the show had you not attempted to commit a crime and been caught by the Cyber Watchdog group.  It's not just some random guy showing up at the house and getting on TV, they always have extensive chat logs showing the adult knew the victim was underage, many times sending them nude pictures in the chatting process.

Like it or not, honeypotting is a completely legal method of catching criminals as long as it doesn't cross the line to entrapment.  Also, we have shows like COPS that focus on potential criminals all the time and they are just going off a random call half the time.


Simple jedi mind trick by the pedophile defenders: substitute the word "predator" with the word "criminal".


The "hunting" done by "predators" is criminal activity so I think predator=criminal is correct.



Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile=predator=criminal “Rights” Marches On


It is that simple.




But you can be pedophile without breaking any laws so that isn't correct.
It is that simple.


Thank you. Posting my post again to prove your point:

Simple jedi mind trick by the pedophile defenders: substitute the word "predator" with the word "criminal".


A - pedophiles are predators
B - having pedophile dreams is not a crime
A - pedophiles should be seen as a threat to children, as predators
B - you cannot criminalize people for having dreams
A - pedophiles are predators dreaming of abusing small children
B - so what, this is not a crime and it should not be
A - are pedophiles predators?
B - no one is defending people abusing children here, but they should have the right not to be seen as sick because they have dreams, just like everyone else.
A - are pedophiles predators?
B - they are not criminals


You did exactly that.
It is that simple.

"Simple jedi mind trick by the pedophile defenders: substitute the word "predator" with the word "criminal"."
I already said predator=criminal so what does it matter if we replace word "predator" with word "criminal"?
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
minds.com/Wilikon
What's dangerous is a room full of people with no idea spouting opinion as factual usefulness. All the hate doesn't mean anything but hate.

Whether or not pedophilia has any usefulness is a conversation that is not possible.
Whether it is possible to be a respectable pedophile is another converstaion that must not be had.

These conversations must never be had, pedophilia must be destroyed by my internet powers!
readmyblog : myawesomeopinion-yetanotherignorantasshole.com/fuckyoupedofile-i-have-a-blog


You could have a direct link here so people don't have to use google.

legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
minds.com/Wilikon



Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On: Thread title 100% accurate. Everybody agrees now.




Yep, didn't expect to come out of this thread agreeing with you... this fucking forum.


It's OK. You can fight me in another battle, in another thread.
 Smiley


The people fought to say the title was a lie. Then the fought to say the gay lobby was right to distance themselves from nambla. Then the same people said being born gay is a natural thing. Then the next logical step was to not see pedophiles as predators but as "born this way" humans. Then it was: for this to happen, a movement needs to march on, to change people's mind.

Hmm...

Now in their mind the pedophile defenders are accepting the fact the gay lobby was wrong to reject nambla as part of their minority group, as we are all humans. Not predators.

 Roll Eyes






This is where things go south in your argument.  Pedophiles should be seen as potential predators and I don't think many people in this thread disagree with that, but they should also be seen as people that were born with a disorder to make them attracted to kids, and focus on all the possible alternatives you can give since you can't convict somebody on a thought crime.


@Yugo, I don't see what your issue is with To Catch a Predator at all.  I see it as the same as trying to bait out a potential rapist in a way that the show could show things to look out for.  The key is that you wouldn't appear on the show had you not attempted to commit a crime and been caught by the Cyber Watchdog group.  It's not just some random guy showing up at the house and getting on TV, they always have extensive chat logs showing the adult knew the victim was underage, many times sending them nude pictures in the chatting process.

Like it or not, honeypotting is a completely legal method of catching criminals as long as it doesn't cross the line to entrapment.  Also, we have shows like COPS that focus on potential criminals all the time and they are just going off a random call half the time.


Simple jedi mind trick by the pedophile defenders: substitute the word "predator" with the word "criminal".


The "hunting" done by "predators" is criminal activity so I think predator=criminal is correct.



Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile=predator=criminal “Rights” Marches On


It is that simple.




But you can be pedophile without breaking any laws so that isn't correct.
It is that simple.


Thank you. Posting my post again to prove your point:

Simple jedi mind trick by the pedophile defenders: substitute the word "predator" with the word "criminal".


A - pedophiles are predators
B - having pedophile dreams is not a crime
A - pedophiles should be seen as a threat to children, as predators
B - you cannot criminalize people for having dreams
A - pedophiles are predators dreaming of abusing small children
B - so what, this is not a crime and it should not be
A - are pedophiles predators?
B - no one is defending people abusing children here, but they should have the right not to be seen as sick because they have dreams, just like everyone else.
A - are pedophiles predators?
B - they are not criminals



You did exactly that.

It is that simple.


member
Activity: 63
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What's dangerous is a room full of people with no idea spouting opinion as factual usefulness. All the hate doesn't mean anything but hate.

Whether or not pedophilia has any usefulness is a conversation that is not possible.
Whether it is possible to be a respectable pedophile is another converstaion that must not be had.

These conversations must never be had, pedophilia must be destroyed by my internet powers!
readmyblog : myawesomeopinion-yetanotherignorantasshole.com/fuckyoupedofile-i-have-a-blog
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000



Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On: Thread title 100% accurate. Everybody agrees now.




Yep, didn't expect to come out of this thread agreeing with you... this fucking forum.


It's OK. You can fight me in another battle, in another thread.
 Smiley


The people fought to say the title was a lie. Then the fought to say the gay lobby was right to distance themselves from nambla. Then the same people said being born gay is a natural thing. Then the next logical step was to not see pedophiles as predators but as "born this way" humans. Then it was: for this to happen, a movement needs to march on, to change people's mind.

Hmm...

Now in their mind the pedophile defenders are accepting the fact the gay lobby was wrong to reject nambla as part of their minority group, as we are all humans. Not predators.

 Roll Eyes






This is where things go south in your argument.  Pedophiles should be seen as potential predators and I don't think many people in this thread disagree with that, but they should also be seen as people that were born with a disorder to make them attracted to kids, and focus on all the possible alternatives you can give since you can't convict somebody on a thought crime.


@Yugo, I don't see what your issue is with To Catch a Predator at all.  I see it as the same as trying to bait out a potential rapist in a way that the show could show things to look out for.  The key is that you wouldn't appear on the show had you not attempted to commit a crime and been caught by the Cyber Watchdog group.  It's not just some random guy showing up at the house and getting on TV, they always have extensive chat logs showing the adult knew the victim was underage, many times sending them nude pictures in the chatting process.

Like it or not, honeypotting is a completely legal method of catching criminals as long as it doesn't cross the line to entrapment.  Also, we have shows like COPS that focus on potential criminals all the time and they are just going off a random call half the time.


Simple jedi mind trick by the pedophile defenders: substitute the word "predator" with the word "criminal".


The "hunting" done by "predators" is criminal activity so I think predator=criminal is correct.



Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile=predator=criminal “Rights” Marches On


It is that simple.




But you can be pedophile without breaking any laws so that isn't correct.
It is that simple.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
minds.com/Wilikon



Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On: Thread title 100% accurate. Everybody agrees now.




Yep, didn't expect to come out of this thread agreeing with you... this fucking forum.


It's OK. You can fight me in another battle, in another thread.
 Smiley


The people fought to say the title was a lie. Then the fought to say the gay lobby was right to distance themselves from nambla. Then the same people said being born gay is a natural thing. Then the next logical step was to not see pedophiles as predators but as "born this way" humans. Then it was: for this to happen, a movement needs to march on, to change people's mind.

Hmm...

Now in their mind the pedophile defenders are accepting the fact the gay lobby was wrong to reject nambla as part of their minority group, as we are all humans. Not predators.

 Roll Eyes






This is where things go south in your argument.  Pedophiles should be seen as potential predators and I don't think many people in this thread disagree with that, but they should also be seen as people that were born with a disorder to make them attracted to kids, and focus on all the possible alternatives you can give since you can't convict somebody on a thought crime.


@Yugo, I don't see what your issue is with To Catch a Predator at all.  I see it as the same as trying to bait out a potential rapist in a way that the show could show things to look out for.  The key is that you wouldn't appear on the show had you not attempted to commit a crime and been caught by the Cyber Watchdog group.  It's not just some random guy showing up at the house and getting on TV, they always have extensive chat logs showing the adult knew the victim was underage, many times sending them nude pictures in the chatting process.

Like it or not, honeypotting is a completely legal method of catching criminals as long as it doesn't cross the line to entrapment.  Also, we have shows like COPS that focus on potential criminals all the time and they are just going off a random call half the time.


Simple jedi mind trick by the pedophile defenders: substitute the word "predator" with the word "criminal".


The "hunting" done by "predators" is criminal activity so I think predator=criminal is correct.



Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile=predator=criminal “Rights” Marches On


It is that simple.


legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000



Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On: Thread title 100% accurate. Everybody agrees now.




Yep, didn't expect to come out of this thread agreeing with you... this fucking forum.


It's OK. You can fight me in another battle, in another thread.
 Smiley


The people fought to say the title was a lie. Then the fought to say the gay lobby was right to distance themselves from nambla. Then the same people said being born gay is a natural thing. Then the next logical step was to not see pedophiles as predators but as "born this way" humans. Then it was: for this to happen, a movement needs to march on, to change people's mind.

Hmm...

Now in their mind the pedophile defenders are accepting the fact the gay lobby was wrong to reject nambla as part of their minority group, as we are all humans. Not predators.

 Roll Eyes






This is where things go south in your argument.  Pedophiles should be seen as potential predators and I don't think many people in this thread disagree with that, but they should also be seen as people that were born with a disorder to make them attracted to kids, and focus on all the possible alternatives you can give since you can't convict somebody on a thought crime.


@Yugo, I don't see what your issue is with To Catch a Predator at all.  I see it as the same as trying to bait out a potential rapist in a way that the show could show things to look out for.  The key is that you wouldn't appear on the show had you not attempted to commit a crime and been caught by the Cyber Watchdog group.  It's not just some random guy showing up at the house and getting on TV, they always have extensive chat logs showing the adult knew the victim was underage, many times sending them nude pictures in the chatting process.

Like it or not, honeypotting is a completely legal method of catching criminals as long as it doesn't cross the line to entrapment.  Also, we have shows like COPS that focus on potential criminals all the time and they are just going off a random call half the time.


Simple jedi mind trick by the pedophile defenders: substitute the word "predator" with the word "criminal".


The "hunting" done by "predators" is criminal activity so I think predator=criminal is correct.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
minds.com/Wilikon



Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On: Thread title 100% accurate. Everybody agrees now.




Yep, didn't expect to come out of this thread agreeing with you... this fucking forum.


It's OK. You can fight me in another battle, in another thread.
 Smiley


The people fought to say the title was a lie. Then the fought to say the gay lobby was right to distance themselves from nambla. Then the same people said being born gay is a natural thing. Then the next logical step was to not see pedophiles as predators but as "born this way" humans. Then it was: for this to happen, a movement needs to march on, to change people's mind.

Hmm...

Now in their mind the pedophile defenders are accepting the fact the gay lobby was wrong to reject nambla as part of their minority group, as we are all humans. Not predators.

 Roll Eyes






This is where things go south in your argument.  Pedophiles should be seen as potential predators and I don't think many people in this thread disagree with that, but they should also be seen as people that were born with a disorder to make them attracted to kids, and focus on all the possible alternatives you can give since you can't convict somebody on a thought crime.


@Yugo, I don't see what your issue is with To Catch a Predator at all.  I see it as the same as trying to bait out a potential rapist in a way that the show could show things to look out for.  The key is that you wouldn't appear on the show had you not attempted to commit a crime and been caught by the Cyber Watchdog group.  It's not just some random guy showing up at the house and getting on TV, they always have extensive chat logs showing the adult knew the victim was underage, many times sending them nude pictures in the chatting process.

Like it or not, honeypotting is a completely legal method of catching criminals as long as it doesn't cross the line to entrapment.  Also, we have shows like COPS that focus on potential criminals all the time and they are just going off a random call half the time.


Simple jedi mind trick by the pedophile defenders: substitute the word "predator" with the word "criminal".

A - pedophiles are predators
B - having pedophile dreams is not a crime
A - pedophiles should be seen as a threat to children, as predators
B - you cannot criminalize people for having dreams
A - pedophiles are predators dreaming of abusing small children
B - so what, this is not a crime and it should not be
A - are pedophiles predators?
B - no one is defending people abusing children here, but they should have the right not to be seen as sick because they have dreams, just like everyone else.
A - are pedophiles predators?
B - they are not criminals


Etc, etc...

Some people right in this thread do not agree pedophiles are predators.





hero member
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@Yugo, I don't see what your issue is with To Catch a Predator at all.  I see it as the same as trying to bait out a potential rapist in a way that the show could show things to look out for.  The key is that you wouldn't appear on the show had you not attempted to commit a crime and been caught by the Cyber Watchdog group.  It's not just some random guy showing up at the house and getting on TV, they always have extensive chat logs showing the adult knew the victim was underage, many times sending them nude pictures in the chatting process.

Like it or not, honeypotting is a completely legal method of catching criminals as long as it doesn't cross the line to entrapment.  Also, we have shows like COPS that focus on potential criminals all the time and they are just going off a random call half the time.
I don't know if you had a time to watch, but i did.
After talk with "decoy kid" they had a chance to stop if they had an attack of conscience
 but many of them crossed the line.
Because they are predators!
 And they are from different social layers, doctors, cops even teachers.
You can see many of them are came with alcohol and condoms and even cameras!

This is good show is you asking me! At the end "they" are behind the bars!
legendary
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Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On: Thread title 100% accurate. Everybody agrees now.




Yep, didn't expect to come out of this thread agreeing with you... this fucking forum.


It's OK. You can fight me in another battle, in another thread.
 Smiley


The people fought to say the title was a lie. Then the fought to say the gay lobby was right to distance themselves from nambla. Then the same people said being born gay is a natural thing. Then the next logical step was to not see pedophiles as predators but as "born this way" humans. Then it was: for this to happen, a movement needs to march on, to change people's mind.

Hmm...

Now in their mind the pedophile defenders are accepting the fact the gay lobby was wrong to reject nambla as part of their minority group, as we are all humans. Not predators.

 Roll Eyes






This is where things go south in your argument.  Pedophiles should be seen as potential predators and I don't think many people in this thread disagree with that, but they should also be seen as people that were born with a disorder to make them attracted to kids, and focus on all the possible alternatives you can give since you can't convict somebody on a thought crime.


@Yugo, I don't see what your issue is with To Catch a Predator at all.  I see it as the same as trying to bait out a potential rapist in a way that the show could show things to look out for.  The key is that you wouldn't appear on the show had you not attempted to commit a crime and been caught by the Cyber Watchdog group.  It's not just some random guy showing up at the house and getting on TV, they always have extensive chat logs showing the adult knew the victim was underage, many times sending them nude pictures in the chatting process.

Like it or not, honeypotting is a completely legal method of catching criminals as long as it doesn't cross the line to entrapment.  Also, we have shows like COPS that focus on potential criminals all the time and they are just going off a random call half the time.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
minds.com/Wilikon



Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On: Thread title 100% accurate. Everybody agrees now.




Yep, didn't expect to come out of this thread agreeing with you... this fucking forum.


It's OK. You can fight me in another battle, in another thread.
 Smiley


The people fought to say the title was a lie. Then the fought to say the gay lobby was right to distance themselves from nambla. Then the same people said being born gay is a natural thing. Then the next logical step was to not see pedophiles as predators but as "born this way" humans. Then it was: for this to happen, a movement needs to march on, to change people's mind.

Hmm...

Now in their mind the pedophile defenders are accepting the fact the gay lobby was wrong to reject nambla as part of their minority group, as we are all humans. Not predators.

 Roll Eyes

You're caricaturing a bit the thing ^^

The idea is to consider pedophiles as humans with their rights as long as they're not found guilty. That's all.

I didn't see anyone say something like "you gotta understand them, why couldn't they live this way?"


By definition all transient beings on this planet are humans. Animals have no human rights. According to you, the word "predator" should never be used as the concept only exists after the fact, never before.









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