Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On - page 8.

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Quote from: arbitrage on March 04, 2016, 09:28:32 AM

Quote from: mainpmf on March 04, 2016, 07:25:13 AM

Seems like what he's afraid of is the acceptation of the sexual orientation by the public.

Pedofhilian is not sexyal orijetation!
"Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

Are you supporter of their rights?

And so what? 30 years ago homosexuality was also considered as a psychiatric disorder.

Same for pedophilia. It's just a sexual orientation. One we can't tolerate but it's a sexual orientation whatever you say.

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Quote from: arbitrage on March 04, 2016, 09:32:57 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on March 04, 2016, 09:28:11 AM

Being pedophile is not illegal in anywhere as far as I know.

Should we make it legal in whole world are you referring then?
Why are you defending something really bad?
You are more concerned for their rights than for child safety?

Did you even read what I wrote?
We can't make it legal because it already is.

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Quote from: Holdaaja on March 04, 2016, 09:28:11 AM

Being pedophile is not illegal in anywhere as far as I know.

Should we make it legal in whole world are you referring then?
Why are you defending something really bad?
You are more concerned for their rights than for child safety?

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Quote from: mainpmf on March 04, 2016, 07:25:13 AM

Seems like what he's afraid of is the acceptation of the sexual orientation by the public.

Pedofhilian is not sexyal orijetation!
"Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

Are you supporter of their rights?

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Quote from: arbitrage on March 04, 2016, 09:20:23 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on March 03, 2016, 08:46:40 PM

No, it is not fetish. Fetish is a sexual focus on a nonliving object or nongenital body part.

What does it matter that it is sick? Nobody forces you to do it.
And if they do it by hurting anyone they will be punished.

If we start to punish for thoughtcrimes we would all be in jail forever.

I know this is not fetish!
This was question to all, if you seen my quoted sentence
This behavior is disgusting for most of population, and pedophilia is forbiden in almous in every part of civilised world.
Who is talking about thought crime?

It is clearly says there is no scientific research this will help them to satisfy their needs, and they won't think on kids any more.

Being pedophile is not illegal in anywhere as far as I know.

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Quote from: Holdaaja on March 03, 2016, 08:46:40 PM

No, it is not fetish. Fetish is a sexual focus on a nonliving object or nongenital body part.

What does it matter that it is sick? Nobody forces you to do it.
And if they do it by hurting anyone they will be punished.

If we start to punish for thoughtcrimes we would all be in jail forever.

I know this is not fetish!
This was question to all, if you seen my quoted sentence
This behavior is disgusting for most of population, and pedophilia is forbiden in almous in every part of civilised world.
Who is talking about thought crime?

It is clearly says there is no scientific research this will help them to satisfy their needs, and they won't think on kids any more.

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Quote from: Holdaaja on March 03, 2016, 08:46:40 PM

Quote from: arbitrage on March 03, 2016, 07:28:54 PM

“We should accept that there is no way to change someone’s fetishes,” Takagi insisted. “I am helping people express their desires, legally and ethically. It’s not worth living if you have to live with repressed desire.”

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/01/can-child-dolls-keep-pedophiles-from-offending/423324/

Now dream about sex with kid is just a fetish?

Expressing desires?

This is what is sick, peace of plastic is not important in this story.
They are coming for their rights.

No, it is not fetish. Fetish is a sexual focus on a nonliving object or nongenital body part.

What does it matter that it is sick? Nobody forces you to do it.
And if they do it by hurting anyone they will be punished.

If we start to punish for thoughtcrimes we would all be in jail forever.

Seems like what he's afraid of is the acceptation of the sexual orientation by the public.

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There is something I don't understand...

You keep talking about pedophilia as if it was something perticulary strange and horrible, something that should be destroyed by all means and which is not natural at all.

The fact is... Pedophilia is just a sexual orientation.
You're saying "This is something morbid." but it IS a sexual orientation. Like liking men, women, animals, objects, trees...

The only difference (but don't make me say what I didn't say, it's an important difference) is that we can't tolerate such sexual orientation. Because this sexual orientation implies a non mutual consent. Same for animals.

But don' try to find another word to describe it. It's not a fetish or a disgusting thing or anything like this. It's a sexual orientation. One we can't tolerate because it would violate basic human and children rights, but it's still a sexual orientation.

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Quote from: valta4065 on March 04, 2016, 07:02:22 AM

Quote from: arbitrage on March 03, 2016, 07:28:54 PM

“We should accept that there is no way to change someone’s fetishes,” Takagi insisted. “I am helping people express their desires, legally and ethically. It’s not worth living if you have to live with repressed desire.”

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/01/can-child-dolls-keep-pedophiles-from-offending/423324/

Now dream about sex with kid is just a fetish?

Expressing desires?

This is what is sick, peace of plastic is not important in this story.
They are coming for their rights.

Yes of course what do you think it is?

How would you classify it if not a fetish?

Well, technically it isn't fetish.
Fetish is a sexual focus on a nonliving object or nongenital body part.

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Quote from: Holdaaja on March 03, 2016, 08:46:40 PM

Quote from: arbitrage on March 03, 2016, 07:28:54 PM

“We should accept that there is no way to change someone’s fetishes,” Takagi insisted. “I am helping people express their desires, legally and ethically. It’s not worth living if you have to live with repressed desire.”

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/01/can-child-dolls-keep-pedophiles-from-offending/423324/

Now dream about sex with kid is just a fetish?

Expressing desires?

This is what is sick, peace of plastic is not important in this story.
They are coming for their rights.

No, it is not fetish. Fetish is a sexual focus on a nonliving object or nongenital body part.

What does it matter that it is sick? Nobody forces you to do it.
And if they do it by hurting anyone they will be punished.

If we start to punish for thoughtcrimes we would all be in jail forever.

Ah damn. Forget my last question, I thought it was a fetish xD

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Quote from: arbitrage on March 03, 2016, 07:28:54 PM

“We should accept that there is no way to change someone’s fetishes,” Takagi insisted. “I am helping people express their desires, legally and ethically. It’s not worth living if you have to live with repressed desire.”

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/01/can-child-dolls-keep-pedophiles-from-offending/423324/

Now dream about sex with kid is just a fetish?

Expressing desires?

This is what is sick, peace of plastic is not important in this story.
They are coming for their rights.

Yes of course what do you think it is?

How would you classify it if not a fetish?

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Quote from: salinizm on March 04, 2016, 01:53:44 AM

Quote from: rokkyroad on December 19, 2015, 03:01:14 PM

How to treat pedophiles:

a. Electroshock therapy.
b. Brain surgery.
c. Castration.
d. Prison with no chance of parole.
e. Public executions.

Children's right to be safe, secure, and protected come first. No ifs, ands, or buts.

Killing everyone with an iq under 130 is a ridiculous analogy btw.

i completely agree with you.. all of your solutions are perfect but the best of all is public executions. i chose this one..

I would choose c and d because its just a chance for them to rethink and analayze there lust.

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Quote from: rokkyroad on December 19, 2015, 03:01:14 PM

How to treat pedophiles:

a. Electroshock therapy.
b. Brain surgery.
c. Castration.
d. Prison with no chance of parole.
e. Public executions.

Children's right to be safe, secure, and protected come first. No ifs, ands, or buts.

Killing everyone with an iq under 130 is a ridiculous analogy btw.

i completely agree with you.. all of your solutions are perfect but the best of all is public executions. i chose this one..

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Quote from: arbitrage on March 03, 2016, 07:28:54 PM

“We should accept that there is no way to change someone’s fetishes,” Takagi insisted. “I am helping people express their desires, legally and ethically. It’s not worth living if you have to live with repressed desire.”

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/01/can-child-dolls-keep-pedophiles-from-offending/423324/

Now dream about sex with kid is just a fetish?

Expressing desires?

This is what is sick, peace of plastic is not important in this story.
They are coming for their rights.

No, it is not fetish. Fetish is a sexual focus on a nonliving object or nongenital body part.

What does it matter that it is sick? Nobody forces you to do it.
And if they do it by hurting anyone they will be punished.

If we start to punish for thoughtcrimes we would all be in jail forever.

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“We should accept that there is no way to change someone’s fetishes,” Takagi insisted. “I am helping people express their desires, legally and ethically. It’s not worth living if you have to live with repressed desire.”

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/01/can-child-dolls-keep-pedophiles-from-offending/423324/

Now dream about sex with kid is just a fetish?

Expressing desires?

This is what is sick, peace of plastic is not important in this story.
They are coming for their rights.

Holdaaja

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Quote from: arbitrage on March 03, 2016, 04:08:44 PM

I see many people on the west especially US are liberal and they have moto live and let live.
But this is not the case now, we don't talking about human rights.
This is something morbid. Dolls won't help anything , this is disgusting.
But i won't be surprised if this soon become legal, we living in times of Babylonian tower.

Child sex dolls are legal in almost all countries already, never even been illegal...
The problem is that people want them to became illegal just because they think it is disgusting.
And the problem in that is laws shouldn't be made just because something is disgusting.

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I see many people on the west especially US are liberal and they have moto live and let live.
But this is not the case now, we don't talking about human rights.
This is something morbid. Dolls won't help anything , this is disgusting.
But i won't be surprised if this soon become legal, we living in times of Babylonian tower.

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Quote from: mainpmf on March 03, 2016, 11:08:17 AM

Quote from: arbitrage on March 03, 2016, 10:51:34 AM

Quote from: mainpmf on March 03, 2016, 10:39:34 AM

What you don't want is to give them toys so they can get rid of their pulsions on objects and not on real children.

It's your choice but I don't think it's intelligent.

If we decide to give them dolls this is acknowledging their rights and their needs.
This way you proclaiming them to buyers, but they are still sick persons.
It is just question of time when they will decide to grab a child.
They don't have rights, this is sick, you won't help them at all.

You wont help kids this way! Don't be fooled!
This is just try to introduce people with "pedophiles rights" this is message from OP also.

No. Giving them this is just acknowledging their existence and our incapacity to prevent their potential agressions.

Nothing more.

Problem being he's right about the paralel with gays.

There is a correlation between the two phenomenon. Not saying that gays = pedophiles of course. But the social phenomenon might be identical...

So isn't it better to be extremely strong and firm on the positions?

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Quote from: arbitrage on March 03, 2016, 10:51:34 AM

Quote from: mainpmf on March 03, 2016, 10:39:34 AM

What you don't want is to give them toys so they can get rid of their pulsions on objects and not on real children.

It's your choice but I don't think it's intelligent.

If we decide to give them dolls this is acknowledging their rights and their needs.
This way you proclaiming them to buyers, but they are still sick persons.
It is just question of time when they will decide to grab a child.
They don't have rights, this is sick, you won't help them at all.

You wont help kids this way! Don't be fooled!
This is just try to introduce people with "pedophiles rights" this is message from OP also.

No. Giving them this is just acknowledging their existence and our incapacity to prevent their potential agressions.

Nothing more.

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Quote from: mainpmf on March 03, 2016, 10:39:34 AM

What you don't want is to give them toys so they can get rid of their pulsions on objects and not on real children.

It's your choice but I don't think it's intelligent.

If we decide to give them dolls this is acknowledging their rights and their needs.
This way you proclaiming them to buyers, but they are still sick persons.
It is just question of time when they will decide to grab a child.
They don't have rights, this is sick, you won't help them at all.

You wont help kids this way! Don't be fooled!
This is just try to introduce people with "pedophiles rights" this is message from OP also.

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