Topic: Should mentally unstable people be allowed to gamble? - page 10. (Read 2327 times)

The self-exclusion is a self-decision, only a "stable" individual can hit that button when he thinks that it's the right time, while the other won't do it for their "own-good" until it's incurable already that damages up to selling their properties, bankruptsy, etc.

Agree. People with unstable mental must be excluded from playing in casinos. they potentially cause riots if they get big losses. I think the security guard of casino mustn't allowed the unstable mental people to come in the casinos. How if they brother other gamblers?  Reputable casinos must have some rules related to the age and mental health of eligible visitors. The casinos or gambling home must be aware to keep their reputation as a comfortable place to gamble.  

wellness check? that i won't expect on any gambling site,. self exclusion that is a common feature you can find. however, do remember that it is still on the gambler"s final decision  to alter his lifestyle.

bottomline, the gambler himself is the final straw on how he will walk his journey of life. as it is his own volition to do what's right for his life, it is his own will if he would want to change for the betterment of life or not.

individuals must be free to choose, even those who you consider to be 'unstable.' casinos should have facilities for wellness check and exclusion in any case.

In my own opinion, I'll say having mentally unstable people gambling in your casino would only reduce the reputation of the casino. There are places were those kind of persons should play, but gambling is a no go area, except he was just on a disguise. I can't even imagine walking into a casino with a mentally unstable person. That story only tells that the attendant is heartless, for him to allow such person enter and make a bet, is only shows that that attendant is capable of promoting irresponsible gambling.

The management of the gambling house should give more priority to the safety of gamblers than profit. Sadly, the casinos would always prioritize profits than anything else and in the scenario you mentioned, would continue to allow the mentally unstable man to play as long as he doesn’t disturb others from doing same.
They need profits and would allow anyone that is reasonable enough and has money to play. That’s they way with profit oriented organizations like these. They couldn’t care less on who’s handing over the money as long as the money is handed over.

If the office of the gambling platform has it in their policy and it is approved by the authorities then they can implement it, It is a legal obligation but not a moral obligation, and it's unethical, it takes a professional physician to check if the bettor is physically fit to be in the vicinity but as long as he is harmless and he is minding his own business then there's no reason to bar him from betting.
He has the same rights like everyone else unless the state deem him not fit to bet.

I understand what you mean but that is a slippery slope, if we begin to restrict people just for the way they look or because they are a little bit unconventional on their behavior then where does this stop? And at the same time this will mean that casinos will transform themselves from just a business offering some games for the entertainment of the population, to an institution that has to psychologically evaluate their customers and single them out if necessary, and if every single business had to do the same, very quickly we will have many businesses unable to deal with that extra load.

I like your explanation that he should be stopped if there are any signs of misbehaviour. But I am really scared at this point because I have seen some mentally unstable people react in a violent manner that leads to serious injuries to some people. You might think they behave normally or are harmless but I have observed that mental illnesses can increase if the sufferer does not have access to proper medical attention.  As much as everyone is free to gamble, such people have to be properly observed because there might be a sudden change in their behaviour. The management of the gambling houses or casinos should give more priority to the safety of gamblers than profit.

i think this makes no sense at all because the attendant said that he behave right and there is no lack of respect or any misbehavior.
they are allowed to gamble if they are not misbehaving with their staff or other people who are playing there like ladies or old people.
I have seen many people who misbehave when they lose it all. those people needs to take action against them not people who like you are mentioning.

Well yes, what you say is quite reasonable that those who will be suspicious are new visitors to the casino so they will certainly pay significant attention to the person who looks strange, and at the same time there may be some other visitors who have subscribed to the casino telling some new visitors that the person is a gambler like usual who often comes there but with a different and strange appearance.

Obviously the casino will not ask about the money they are carrying or mean as you say about where they can get the money to gamble, certainly if you come to the casino with money then you can get involved in some bets like other visitors do, especially if he has good behavior and character.

But in reality he is a regular customer at the casino so people who are used to visiting the casino are already used to his presence to gamble. Perhaps the ones who feel strange are people who have just visited the casino and happen to meet this person speculating various kinds and thinking if the person is not a normal person, for us seeing a person with a disheveled appearance will definitely feel strange about that person but we don't know for sure whether that person really has a mental disorder because basically people are affected by mental disorders that exist in his mind is a little complicated and could cause chaos while the person just comes and gambles and doesn't cause any reaction, my opinion he just needs entertainment and gambling is a game he likes.

The casino doesn't care where it gets the money from because the most important thing is that it comes with the condition of money for gambling so that the workers there still accept it happily because they get regular customers who come to their workplace every day and every casino is certainly also happy to get regular customers if they are customers does not bother other gamblers and does not cause chaos.

If he is a new person in the gambling environment or means just coming to gamble with that kind of appearance then it is clear that it is only natural that a lot of speculation arises that leads to suspicion, but if basically he is one of the gamblers who can be said to have subscribed to the casino and without ever doing any mess or damage that can harm the casino or other people then obviously there is no problem with him, and what is different may be in terms of appearance, although it can be very suspicious but it doesn't matter if there is absolutely no bad behavior that he has experienced.

On the other hand, it is clear according to the information that he acted like other gamblers who came with money as a condition for getting involved in gambling even though he had to work odd jobs just to get money to gamble, it doesn't matter because it's his desire and maybe gambling is one of the activities he enjoys. So if he is not doing anything wrong at all then there is no problem and the guards can serve him like serving other visitors but as you said if at any time there is a change in his behavior that can harm others then obviously it must be stopped.

Not really, because mentally unstable people tend not to think about whether they win or lose. They want to gamble without thinking about those two things and whatever results they receive, they may be more accepting of it than gamblers who gamble frequently. Maybe they can't make the right decisions like other gamblers, but they gamble casually and enjoy every moment. We can see what they do every day without burden, even though life is very difficult for other people and we need to think of ways to overcome it. But indeed, gambling is a game for people with a healthy and stable mentality so that they will not disturb other people when they lose. But from the story, the person with mental disorders did not bother other people around him so no one felt disturbed by his presence, even the officers allowed him to gamble at the casino.

This is a tricky one but I think the gambling assistant has said it all, that he's harmless and that's what you should go with. The dude is a fully grown man, he doesn't steal to gamble, he takes care of himself by doing odd jobs. So as long as he appears okay, does what every normal person does whenever he's in the gambling shop, then he should be allowed to stake his bet and leave. If at any point anything changes, then he should be stopped.

Everyone is free to gamble in any casino, as long as they don't disturb other gamblers despite having problems mentally. Some cases of people with mental illness cause violence, misbehaving, etc. which is understandable but if they mess around the physical gambling houses then probably they could be kicked out. But there's no such thing that they would be in jail for having an illness and gambling, they are also people who want to have entertainment they don't want to be at the hospital just to cure themselves I think you are expecting. Even the attendant is comfortable with him cause his mental health doesn't affect anyone but himself, plus his appearance doesn't have anything to do with his illness as well, if there's a person with dirty clothes and unkept hair should we assume that person has a mental disorder? Never judge someone based on their appearance and never assume their health state unless you are informed.

There is a saying, don't judge a book by its cover. so you see, what you see does not necessarily reflect what you actually think. so, remember that thinking like that is not true. personally, I have encountered many characteristics of people like what you said in this thread. although not in the exact situation and conditions as you say, I mean not like the case we are discussing. A person can style according to what he wants, even though he looks like he has mental problems. but we never know for sure, especially since the man acted like a normal person. unless you really know the person. in this thread, you say, the gambling shop claims that he is a regular customer and he has never behaved badly.

My question is, what should we debate with this person, isn't he/she has the right to what he/she wants? in fact, many people have mental disorders. even people like us who look neat, but have personality problems. many also have another side with mental problems, especially those related to gambling. IMO, referring to what you said, it seems there is no written obligation for the shop to ban it because of its appearance problem. on the contrary, your moral obligations will be questioned first, by welcoming them well and then asking about several things. if winning doesn't indicate a mental problem, why ban someone. physical appearance does not determine a person's identity, in fact we cannot judge based only on our eyes. the problem is different, if this man comes to a top casino which requires its customers to dress appropriately and in accordance with the regulations implemented by the casino. if it's just a gambling shop and the person is able and willing to risk his money, then that's his right. as long as it's not disturbing, as long as it doesn't violate the rules, everything is fine.

What? No! Mental condition is a serious issue and as well as we don't allow kids to drink alcohol and smoke we shouldn't allow mentally unstable people to gamble. How can they "know how to control it", what are you talking about? Only adults in their right mind should be allowed to gamble, there can't be two opinions about it.

How do you define someone as mentally unstable? Just because someone might be suffering from mental illness doesn't mean they can't decide for themselves. I find your statement a little overexaggerated. You claim that gambling is for mentally sound people when a large percentage, if not the largest, is addicted and blows away their money. We've seen quite a few users here ranting about how they bet everything and lost it. With that being said, you're claiming that a large percentage of gamblers, including those on the forum, are mentally unstable, right? Because that's what you're basically saying.

Thus, you may need to reconsider your definition of mental illnesses and who's unstable or not.

The mentally unstable people can’t make the win in the gambling site,because they are mentally unstable.They can’t able to take the correct decision and how they can do the right betting in the gambling site.Actually the fact is they never win with the unstable mind,they need of medical treatment and care.So the gambling is the game for the people with sound mental condition.The physical appearance may not affect the game,many of my friends who working in the gambling industry had said more stories about the physical appearance of the gamblers.


The gambler with more temptation will not fit for the gambling industry,because fighting with the gambling site after a loss is no use.Instead improve your game and the possibility for the winning will increase in the gambling.Many of my friends made the money only by changing their view of the gambling and improved their skills towards the game.Because the gambling site or offline gambling which was legit will not scam you,it may happen because of your mistake.