Topic: Should mentally unstable people be allowed to gamble? - page 9. (Read 2539 times)

I have said what you said before and indeed almost the majority of people who reply here definitely have the same thought that as long as mentally unstable people don't disturb other people when gambling, it doesn't matter, after all, the person also pays and takes money to the casino or at least it's as if buying food with real money and not scaring other people. but if the gambler is under mental pressure, even though he is carrying money and does not disturb other people, it makes other people uncomfortable, it seems like the casino should give them their own seat or send them away in a subtle way so as not to scare other gamblers.

however, I slightly disagree with your opinion about the most important thing being that casinos only need money. even though casinos need income from customers or gamblers, they also have a responsibility to overcome any problems that exist. If a gambler who is mentally unstable comes to the casino wearing clothes that are not suitable for use, it will definitely make other gamblers uncomfortable so the casino is obliged to give a warning fine or lend more decent used clothes so that the conditions in the casino are safe and comfortable.

Yes, maybe they gamble based on what they remember. Sometimes, people who are mentally unstable can gamble like other people because perhaps they can think about the strategy. But it will come back to each person because anything can happen, and we don't know the actual situation and are just guessing. Surely, that person has often gambled at the casino, and it could be that he only plays the same gambling game because it makes it easier for him to gamble. So he doesn't need to make a lot of strategy and just plays based on what he can afford. And it's not because he's dressed shabbily that we can think the person is mentally unstable.

It's tricky deciding if someone with mental health condition can win at gambling.  I mean, if they get the rules and can think straight, maybe they'd make bank.  It's mostly about luck anyway.  But if their condition messes with focusing, memory or reasonable choices, they'd probably lose their shirt. 

I knew this guy who had anxiety bad and  get the shakes something awful when he played poker.  But he read a ton of books on tells and odds and everything.  For a while he cleaned up.  Then he lost it all in one bad night.  So I guess it depends.

Maybe it not or could be yes im not sure about it. If a person can understand the Strategy and the playing click of a beting sector then the person can play easyly. You are saying mentally unstable person maybe not. Becose the person don't understand the Strategy and can't remember what he have to do at the situation or not. It the person mentality unstable but he know that and know how to play then it is possible but an unstable person how remember the strategy of gambling is it possible ?

I wouldn't say the gambler mentioned by the OP is total insane he may be partially mentally unstable if he can place his bet without any input from anyone and knows the right thing to do without being guided notwithstanding his dressing that shouldn't use as a yardstick to label him as mentally unstable, meanwhile it can be difficult to allow someone who is totally mentally unstable to gamble of course we knew the nature of some of them they can be violent which gambling shop would allow a violent gambler to their shop? Absolutely none such type of people who exhibit that character wouldn't near a gambling or betting shop to gamble infact shop owners wouldn't tolerate such the fact that the person mentioned by the OP conducted himself well means he is mentally sound.

The world is free for people to participate in any game that pleases them, but people are only moderated not to fail the society. Because whatever decision we choose to take, affects us, our family and the society. So, if a person isn't harming people close to him, I don't think he's taken any wrong decision. Like in the situation of the man in Op's thread. If he's mentally unstable and causes discomfort to his loved ones, he should be restricted from gambling. Since the attendant doesn't bother about the man's presence and his family doesn't complain. No need to bother about his gambling well-being. He could as well be getting things wrong, if he sees gambling as a means of earning a second income. Gambling isn't a side hustle, because it's not certain what the outcome of our game would  become. A lot of people are mentally unstable, and the casino will find it very difficult to distinguish between who is problematic or not. That will be a hard task to restrict mentally unstable people from using the casino.

If they can think straight and still make the ones they use in gambling by their self  then I don’t see any reason why they should not be allowed to gamble, who knows what they are passing through up their and gambling is just a way they use in letting them out, unless they posse some kind of trait to others who is gambling in that shop they should be allowed to gamble just like other customers who are also gambling in they place it’s as simple as that.

Most of them self might even be good in what they do and might not be completely unstable but some kind of situation which they might have been through kept them in that condition which it they can win a large amount of money from gambling they might end this their dirty lift they leave which makes people see them as someone who is unstable mentally.

If the result of sports betting is win or lose then is casino gambling any different? I think it remains the same.
Casino gambling will ultimately result in winning or losing, even though we all know that the big possibility is that you will lose, and in my opinion in casino gambling there is no accurate prediction of winning, because in my opinion casino gambling only relies on luck to a large extent. . Many of them gamble at casinos using tricks or strategies they get from the staff or the casino site they play at, but in my opinion this doesn't guarantee that it will be easy to win.

In my opinion, all gambling is the same, in the end it will only end in winning or losing, and the hope of all gamblers is to win, because winning can make them happy, but sometimes the victory they get also makes them forget themselves which results in a gambling addiction. , and even though they are mentally unstable, that doesn't stop them from becoming addicted, because they also gamble even though they have a bad mentality.

maybe if they don't do anything bad like disturbing other people's comfort in a physical casino they won't get into trouble but on the other hand, if they gamble by disturbing other people's comfort, they will kick them out, because the casino also monitors anyone who is suspicious even if it's directly from their eyes or by using CCTV, because of course the casino has prepared high security so it is impossible for them to do anything that will harm the casino That's good, because in my opinion there is no need to look for problems,  rather than looking for existing problems that can be detrimental to ourselves.

with the security that a casino has, especially a physical casino of course in my opinion there will be parties who work as security where they are tasked with securing the situation and if there are indeed suspicious people then they have to pay attention to that and it is true as you say everyone is responsible for their actions. and this is as it should be I mean the actions we take ourselves of course we have to be responsible for.

We do what we think is possible and leave the activities that will implicate us. Constant practice and acknowledgement of the system, a gambler will observe things will gradually fall in place. I've watch and knotted quite significant in the system, but as we all know, this things doesn't last and I'm already getting worried because man needs steady flow of cash and we ought to be creating different sources of income to stay stable. Gambling is only for those in their balance mental state and not those that finds it difficult to concentrate due to the mentally unstable manner.

In that sense you are completely right, because in itself, sometimes it is difficult to understand who may be mentally unstable, but it is something that we should notice on occasions , I for example , am not very Observant, but there are people who are, and in a casino that is Physical , because many observers must do it , let's see how everything goes, it is normal, but in the case that new things are done, if they have more security Cameras they can determine it, but what excuse does someone get out of? a casino? by telling him that he is mentally unstable? What if the person Reports this and a worse problem Arises ? Because there are organizations that say they have lesser capabilities, because that is very delicate and the casino is not going to talk to people so that they can make a bad move like that. I have always thought that as a Player you should always focus on what they have , And how they do their things, everyone has their own way of seeing the game, and we are people who basically could have a lot to do and Avoid Conflict with people like that.

I say that if a person from this group doesn't mess with me , I'm not going to get in trouble for removing it or in any way Reporting something because if he does , he violates the normal rules of Civility , well, who am I to do it? This is something that I have always determined to do for any field, I look for the best and to do Anything as best as possible it is necessary to be able to establish something so that they can generate Improvements for the casino, if there are people with Special abilities it is necessary that they go to a casino with a companion and if he is not, then the casino simply has the obligation to observe his behavior very well, of course this does not include his way of playing , gambling or something like that , because they are delicate things , it is not the only thing It should be done in this case , because it is something that should not be controlled , each person is Responsible for their Actions.

The casino was the old man luck in many countries,because the game may give you maximum profit as compared to the sports bet.Because the result of the sports betting is win or loss.But the casino will give the knowledge of the prediction to the next game,many people had loss 10k in the casino game and recovered more than the losses.Such things was only happen in the casino games in the gambling sites compared to the sports betting.The gamblers who had the technical skills of the sports like soccer should not play the single match in the casino,because it is the waste of the time for the sports betting person on casino games.

that makes sense, and indeed the casino company doesn't seem to mind that, as long as he has money and comes to the casino to gamble it doesn't matter as long as it doesn't disturb the comfort of other people around him, because in my opinion what the casino is looking for is profit so who does If you have money then you are allowed to gamble, unless they don't have money and are mentally unhealthy, maybe it will be prohibited by the casino. because as you said, it could be that they gamble because they need entertainment, they want to have fun, and also the way each person handles their mental stability is different.
Someone who has money will be allowed to enter and gamble, but perhaps with the caveat that they don't disturb the comfort of other people in the casino, if they do disturb them they will also be expelled by the casino. and if other people don't feel disturbed they won't mind unless there are lots of complaints from other gamblers about people who are mentally unstable, it's possible that the casino will expel them because it's impossible for the casino to want to lose a lot of customers or visitors because of one person who doesn't make them comfortable gambling.

Discovering who is mentally ill or not, is not an easy task. Lots of gamblers are mentally disordered people, not just the addicts. Although the government are looking at helping addicts out of their problem gambling, which is the primary aim of the health care centers in the developed countries where gambling is legalized. Yet, reaching out to the mentally ill people is quite difficult, as not every body's illness is obvious or noticeable by the crowd. So, in the case of people like the man in Op's narration, they are not mainly mentally unstable, it could be he's not well dressed because of the type of work he does. Being mentally unstable doesn't mean the person needs to look for other people's trouble. Sometimes they only face the trouble of mentally illness when they're alone in their room. It occurs in different ways that's why the government may not be able to execute properly this type of rule on gambling activities.

Just the same, as long as he is not bringing any harm it's okay seeing him playing, for sure if he's bringing money and there's no problem with how he behaves during his stay, he will not be bothered and he will be allow to keep playing and enjoying, but the time that he show any sign of behavioral issue, that might be the time that the casino will take some actions to make sure that there's no harm that will happen, either to him or any other people inside the casino, the owner also needs to protect their business.

From your explanation, nothing makes that man mentally unstable since he's well behaved, earn an income and coordinates himself, so I don't see any mental instability in him regardless of how roughly dressed he is, some persons even mechanics and painters and some other people that does jobs that stains their clothes normally go to gambling offices dressed in awkward manner but that doesn't mean they should be regarded as mentally unstable because the reasons why most of them are dressed roughly to gambling halls is because their jobs don't give them the space to dress properly and come to play gambling except if they ain't working at that particular day then they might decide to dress well.

That does not mean that a person with dirty clothes, unkempt hearing, and a long beard is a mentally unstable person. He may be a more stable person than the people who gambled in the casino. If you look at the people who gamble in the casino, if they lose, they will scream to vent their frustration or when they win, they will also express their joy beyond their limits. Wouldn't that disturb other people who are also enjoying their time gambling?

Meanwhile, the person you think is mentally unstable will not react in any way, whether he wins or loses, and will immediately leave the machine without disturbing other people. If that's the case, who is mentally unstable? Just my 2 cents

Of course, the casino staff will not allow the person to gamble at the casino if he has not been gambling at the casino for a long time. He would even be thrown out before he entered the casino because he could potentially disturb other gamblers, so the casino staff would prevent him from entering. But because he had often gambled at the casino for a long time and had no history of disturbing other gamblers who also gambled, the casino staff allowed him to gamble. But I'm sure the casino staff will always keep an eye on him and make sure he really doesn't disturb other gamblers as usual. Perhaps in other casinos, there are people like that, and maybe the response from the casino staff will be different from what that person experienced.

Yes, this is true, anyone who comes to bring money to a gambling house can be called a customer so they no longer have to differentiate between rich and poor because everyone has the same goal of gambling, there is nothing different about the two, after all, it's just mentally unstable, isn't it? will make people feel afraid of him as long as he gambles calmly like other gamblers who gamble calmly everything is fine.

If I was in a gambling house and saw someone who was mentally unstable like that I would invite him to play next to me. There was no problem with that either because he brought money to gamble. Anyone has the right to gamble and the gambling house also has the right to facilitate those who play. gambling there so that there is no favoritism towards others, everything must be special.

From the story, I doubt that he's a completely mentally unstable person. It's clear to me that this person is still on his usual self and not even behaving strangely, as the attendant also mentioned. This person also knows how to associate with other gamblers there and not do anything to bring trouble to all people on the casino's premises.

To answer the question now, if mentally unstable are allowed to gamble, of course they are allowed. That's their free will. If they know what they are doing, why should we stop them? And who has the authority to not allow these type of people to gamble? Not unless the casino establishment will implement such rules on their casino.

I humbly submit that any person that has a mental disorder should definitely avoid activities that can potentially worsen their condition.

Like what I have said before, gambling is a game of chance. It requires a person to have the necessary resource and rationalize thinking before they can attempt to do it due to its addictive element. Assuming that a mentally disabled person, in which his mental resources are impaired, attempts to gamble there is a high probability that it can spiral out of control potentially causing a massive landslide to both their finances and condition.


I do not think so. A mentally disabled person has their mental faculties impaired due to their condition. They may see something that is abnormal to be normal and even the other way around. Without any guidance or help from a friend or family member, their situation can potentially worsen.

Is there a law stopping mentally unstable people from gambling ? Is there a law stopping people who are not minors from gambling?
Except there's a law against it in your region for non underage, nobody should stop them from gambling.
It becomes a problem if that person has an individual law against him on gambling. Like people who have an anti gambling law where they're not allowed to gamble in any casino (offline or online) to avoid gambling addiction.
In this case, it's even the addict that will press charges on the casino if they allow him gamble. The casino can press charges if they refuse to gamble for that individual but the person finds a way to fool the casino into allowing him.