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Not sure why we need to differentiate them from us Normal when they are acting the same in gambling
places? I mean they are just there putting their money at risk like what normal does? though we may questioned where
they have got the money yet we have no rights to throw them away like that, and also casino cares nothing about that
as long as they are not bringing troubles in their businesses.
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My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?
The answer is both yes and no. From what I know, some casinos have dress codes, and if someone is not dressed appropriately, they might be stopped right at the entrance. As for someone having mental health issues, it might not even be a matter of discussion; they are definitely not be accepted. In most countries, individuals with mental health problems might face restrictions on participating in gambling activities if their condition is deemed to affect their ability to manage themselves and make reasonable decisions.

In your case, the gambling venue is likely aware of his condition, so he might not face any bans or restrictions. Perhaps, in previous visits, he didn't exhibit such behavior, or after playing for a while, he became a regular customer, and initial barriers may have been lifted.

It's challenging to determine if someone appears mentally unstable during the first encounter, so limitations or bans in such situations are understandable. This is more about the casino's regulations than ethical or legal concerns.
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Gambling is not just for normal people, as long as they have money to place bets and have fun.
Even a lot of people who have been depressed with a mental condition that is already chaotic, can even and are welcomed by other gamblers. yes, maybe there are some who consider them to be material for depositing money and giving more winnings if they have lost.
This means that gambling is for everyone who has money and wants to spend their time relaxing by playing gambling games. They don't need to have fun using gambling because other activities can also give them the opportunity to have fun and spend their time. But because of the curiosity of these people who want to know what it feels like to win from gambling, they start gambling, and many of them even end up becoming addicted to gambling without realizing it. Many people have experienced depression because of the losses they experienced at gambling, so their lives have been disrupted. They cannot think clearly to look for and find the right solution for them to solve their problem in gambling. They will only fall deeper into gambling and cannot get out of gambling easily.
Gambling is not for everybody,so I disagree with this statement of yours in one way.I know everybody has the privilege to gamble,and it is your wish to gamble or not,but the fact that gambling is not for everybody means that not everyone has the mind to be able to gamble,some persons will cry after they lose a round of game,while some persons will just see it as part of the game.We always say,and know that gambling is a risky game to play,it's either one wins or one loses,when you lose,you have to still accept that fact,while if you win,it's your luck to be happy about.But the losing part of it which is the most common part of gambling is what some people find hard to accept,but one thing is sure,as long as one is into the habbit of gambling,losing is essential.
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Good point and with a situation like this he will just continue repeating what he thinks that's easy for him to play and remember,  as long as he have the money to use and he is playing the same way a normal person is playing the game, there's should be no discrimination that needs to apply,  he just like a normal person who also wanted to enjoy, not unless he creates issue with his mental attitude that might harm the business or the people that around him, but as long as there are none better to let him enjoy as normal person do.
At least, that's what people think because playing the same gambling game before it won't make it difficult for them to play it. He also didn't need to press a lot of buttons or anything else and just followed his instincts, which he was used to playing gambling games. By doing something like that, he can enjoy what comes out in front of him, and maybe he also doesn't think about winning or losing because he wants to play. We should be able to apply conditions like this when playing gambling so that we don't have too much hope of winning because this is gambling where there will definitely be wins and losses that we will receive. As long as he can gamble without any disturbance, he will not disturb the people around him, and he will immediately leave after he has had enough gambling.

Mentally unstable people are people who easily change their mood very quickly, they are people who easily go into depression when faced with a loss, even if it is a small loss, they are people who are unlikely to gamble and accept that they are constantly losing money and have positive thinking, many people just pretend that they are playing for fun, they will never say publicly that they are playing with the hope that one day they will make a profit, this is because society sees gambling as a path to the destruction of life, both and that those games in which the person puts money to predict the outcome are then considered games of chance, why aren't they called games of luck?

In my opinion, the answer is very simple, they won't call it games of luck because they would lose more than they won, so they started calling it games of chance. and mentally unstable people can get it into their head that they are just going to play for fun, but then when they lose in a game these same mentally unstable people will start to get irritated and think about chasing losses and if they are in a physical casino it will cause confusion and if In the physical casino, the security guards will kick them out, then they will go to a bar and start drinking a lot and causing confusion such as fights inside the bar. Who here has never seen confused people on football fields who get angry easily and for futile reasons, causing fights? I believe we have all seen these people, they are mentally unstable people

If it leads to that, it's certain that other people will also think badly of someone who looks inappropriate, but is it possible for someone to come to the casino with inappropriate clothes? I don't think so, because I thought before entering the casino there would be security at the entrance, but I don't know because I have never set foot in a physical casino.

at least when the number of covid cases reduced a lot and physical casinos reopened, people dressed very well

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Gambling is not just for normal people, as long as they have money to place bets and have fun.
Even a lot of people who have been depressed with a mental condition that is already chaotic, can even and are welcomed by other gamblers. yes, maybe there are some who consider them to be material for depositing money and giving more winnings if they have lost.
This means that gambling is for everyone who has money and wants to spend their time relaxing by playing gambling games. They don't need to have fun using gambling because other activities can also give them the opportunity to have fun and spend their time. But because of the curiosity of these people who want to know what it feels like to win from gambling, they start gambling, and many of them even end up becoming addicted to gambling without realizing it. Many people have experienced depression because of the losses they experienced at gambling, so their lives have been disrupted. They cannot think clearly to look for and find the right solution for them to solve their problem in gambling. They will only fall deeper into gambling and cannot get out of gambling easily.
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It is not necessary that with prevent someone from gambling just because they are mentally ill. Maybe he finds it peace of mind by gambling after everything that he has endured. Every coin has two sides and I don't think it is different here. If that makes him happy, then why not let him do it.
If he is doing something bad and cannot stop it, then it is our responsibility to at least try to talk to him and get him out of this situation. If not then there's nothing wrong here. Let the man enjoy his life.

I agree. Gambling can make that person feel better, and who are we to forbid it? Only I think that hardly someone will feel better after losing a big amount. I would suggest giving a limited amount of chips to such gamblers, but it can be depressing for them, they could feel that they are not allowed to win big. So, honestly, I don't know the right solution.
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that makes sense, and indeed the casino company doesn't seem to mind that, as long as he has money and comes to the casino to gamble it doesn't matter as long as it doesn't disturb the comfort of other people around him, because in my opinion what the casino is looking for is profit so who does If you have money then you are allowed to gamble, unless they don't have money and are mentally unhealthy, maybe it will be prohibited by the casino. because as you said, it could be that they gamble because they need entertainment, they want to have fun, and also the way each person handles their mental stability is different.
Someone who has money will be allowed to enter and gamble, but perhaps with the caveat that they don't disturb the comfort of other people in the casino, if they do disturb them they will also be expelled by the casino. and if other people don't feel disturbed they won't mind unless there are lots of complaints from other gamblers about people who are mentally unstable, it's possible that the casino will expel them because it's impossible for the casino to want to lose a lot of customers or visitors because of one person who doesn't make them comfortable gambling.
I have said what you said before and indeed almost the majority of people who reply here definitely have the same thought that as long as mentally unstable people don't disturb other people when gambling, it doesn't matter, after all, the person also pays and takes money to the casino or at least it's as if buying food with real money and not scaring other people. but if the gambler is under mental pressure, even though he is carrying money and does not disturb other people, it makes other people uncomfortable, it seems like the casino should give them their own seat or send them away in a subtle way so as not to scare other gamblers.

however, I slightly disagree with your opinion about the most important thing being that casinos only need money. even though casinos need income from customers or gamblers, they also have a responsibility to overcome any problems that exist. If a gambler who is mentally unstable comes to the casino wearing clothes that are not suitable for use, it will definitely make other gamblers uncomfortable so the casino is obliged to give a warning fine or lend more decent used clothes so that the conditions in the casino are safe and comfortable.

Yes, basically people who gamble in physical casinos aim to win and have fun, and if someone causes a riot or their actions disturb the comfort of other people, of course the casino must take further action. because it is possible for those who are mentally unstable to gamble and we know that gambling has a big chance of losing, and it is possible that they become rebellious because they lose at gambling so that the casino has to give a warning or expel them because it disturbs other people's comfort.

If it leads to that, it's certain that other people will also think badly of someone who looks inappropriate, but is it possible for someone to come to the casino with inappropriate clothes? I don't think so, because I thought before entering the casino there would be security at the entrance, but I don't know because I have never set foot in a physical casino.
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The question sounds weird. First of all everyone have rights to gamble. Gambling is not something to be afraid of, not something that is suitable only for someone, and for others dont. Mentally unstable people are the same people as all of us, but with a bit of specialty. They can gamble when there is someone who can supervise them, take care of them. But it somehow sounds humiliating. How would someone consider allowing or not to gamble? Show ID or certificate and you are free to enter casino or page?
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Exactly! as long as they have money and capability to do gambling, they are welcome anytime. Especially when they are diagnosed with a mental illness but didn't harm other people, I think there's nothing wrong with that. We need to at least consider other peoples happiness and wants even if they have mental health illness because I know that they are aware with that and because they want to escape from their problem, gambling is one of their way to release their stress and problems in life.


I understand your point, but how is gambling one of the ways for mentally unstable people to release their stress and problems in life? I think the only thing that can release stress and problems in life is to tackle the problems, to solve them or to seek help/support to get them solved as quickly as possible. That is truly stress relieving. What if a gambling session goes utterly wrong and the person who is already stressed out loses a lot of money? No, I don't believe the story that people say the luck someone feels in gambling even when they lose is stronger than the bad feelings from the loss of money they experienced. If it is all under control financially, ok maybe it can be true. But for most people it is not and social bonding would probably be much better than gambling when people are mentally ill or unstable.
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Good point and with a situation like this he will just continue repeating what he thinks that's easy for him to play and remember,  as long as he have the money to use and he is playing the same way a normal person is playing the game, there's should be no discrimination that needs to apply,  he just like a normal person who also wanted to enjoy, not unless he creates issue with his mental attitude that might harm the business or the people that around him, but as long as there are none better to let him enjoy as normal person do.
At least, that's what people think because playing the same gambling game before it won't make it difficult for them to play it. He also didn't need to press a lot of buttons or anything else and just followed his instincts, which he was used to playing gambling games. By doing something like that, he can enjoy what comes out in front of him, and maybe he also doesn't think about winning or losing because he wants to play. We should be able to apply conditions like this when playing gambling so that we don't have too much hope of winning because this is gambling where there will definitely be wins and losses that we will receive. As long as he can gamble without any disturbance, he will not disturb the people around him, and he will immediately leave after he has had enough gambling.
Gambling is not just for normal people, as long as they have money to place bets and have fun.
Even a lot of people who have been depressed with a mental condition that is already chaotic, can even and are welcomed by other gamblers. yes, maybe there are some who consider them to be material for depositing money and giving more winnings if they have lost.

Exactly! as long as they have money and capability to do gambling, they are welcome anytime. Especially when they are diagnosed with a mental illness but didn't harm other people, I think there's nothing wrong with that. We need to at least consider other peoples happiness and wants even if they have mental health illness because I know that they are aware with that and because they want to escape from their problem, gambling is one of their way to release their stress and problems in life.
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Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.
People’s mental illness can be of different degrees some people might be mentally unstable but they still have some sense in them and can act normally in most cases without anyone noticing they are mentally unstable. This could be the case of this person, he might be unstable but he could still have some sense in him and maybe why he is able to act normally when he wants to gamble.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.
Mentally unstable person who is able to work to raise money to gamble is not too affected with the illness and shouldn’t be a problem to the casino so it’s ok to allow him to gamble because he also has equal rights as a human but I advise they keep a close eyes on him just incase his case worsens. Anyone with critical mental issues shouldn’t be allowed to gamble to avoid issues.
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Good point and with a situation like this he will just continue repeating what he thinks that's easy for him to play and remember,  as long as he have the money to use and he is playing the same way a normal person is playing the game, there's should be no discrimination that needs to apply,  he just like a normal person who also wanted to enjoy, not unless he creates issue with his mental attitude that might harm the business or the people that around him, but as long as there are none better to let him enjoy as normal person do.
At least, that's what people think because playing the same gambling game before it won't make it difficult for them to play it. He also didn't need to press a lot of buttons or anything else and just followed his instincts, which he was used to playing gambling games. By doing something like that, he can enjoy what comes out in front of him, and maybe he also doesn't think about winning or losing because he wants to play. We should be able to apply conditions like this when playing gambling so that we don't have too much hope of winning because this is gambling where there will definitely be wins and losses that we will receive. As long as he can gamble without any disturbance, he will not disturb the people around him, and he will immediately leave after he has had enough gambling.
Gambling is not just for normal people, as long as they have money to place bets and have fun.
Even a lot of people who have been depressed with a mental condition that is already chaotic, can even and are welcomed by other gamblers. yes, maybe there are some who consider them to be material for depositing money and giving more winnings if they have lost.
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Maybe it not or could be yes im not sure about it. If a person can understand the Strategy and the playing click of a beting sector then the person can play easyly. You are saying mentally unstable person maybe not. Becose the person don't understand the Strategy and can't remember what he have to do at the situation or not. It the person mentality unstable but he know that and know how to play then it is possible but an unstable person how remember the strategy of gambling is it possible ?
Well, I think we should not mistake the fact that mental instability is not the same as total madness, mental instability is just as the name  or the title implies, there will still be times when the person could be well behaved, I've personally seen some people with metal instability who become mentally stable( so to say) in or at some time of the day or some moment,  and the next moment, their brains becomes upside down again.

So, Its very possible for a mental unstable person to walk into a casino or betting shop to gamble or place some bets when they feel some kind of relieve from their mental instability.
Like I said before, I've seen or witnessed this with some mentally challenged persons here in my area.
Mad people possibly can not gamble completely, because madness is the highest height of mental instability, but for those who are mentally challenged at the mild or middle level, this ones can still participate in some activities normal people do from time to time.
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Good point and with a situation like this he will just continue repeating what he thinks that's easy for him to play and remember,  as long as he have the money to use and he is playing the same way a normal person is playing the game, there's should be no discrimination that needs to apply,  he just like a normal person who also wanted to enjoy, not unless he creates issue with his mental attitude that might harm the business or the people that around him, but as long as there are none better to let him enjoy as normal person do.
At least, that's what people think because playing the same gambling game before it won't make it difficult for them to play it. He also didn't need to press a lot of buttons or anything else and just followed his instincts, which he was used to playing gambling games. By doing something like that, he can enjoy what comes out in front of him, and maybe he also doesn't think about winning or losing because he wants to play. We should be able to apply conditions like this when playing gambling so that we don't have too much hope of winning because this is gambling where there will definitely be wins and losses that we will receive. As long as he can gamble without any disturbance, he will not disturb the people around him, and he will immediately leave after he has had enough gambling.
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My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?
I have not seen this in a any terms of service of a casino or other gambling site like bookies. If it is not there, that means it is allowed. But some people will not feel comfortable and will not allow him to gamble. There are situations that people around a mentally unstable person will interact with him and no problem, but there are situations that you can not interact with with such a person.

From the explanation of the op I think this whole thing happened in a betting shop because from my personal experience, I have seen different kinds of people who walk in and out of a popular betting shop in my region namely bet9ja and betking to place their bets. The other day I came across a man who I think was mentally unstable giving out coupon numbers for people to go and bet and I was wondering why people believed him maybe because he wasn't totally mad. You are right and I agree with you that once people around can interact and converse with anyone that is mentally unstable i think it's not a bad thing forcthem to have access to gamble but once they become violent I doubt if they will be allowed to have access to gamble because people will always not stay when he's around.
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Maybe it not or could be yes im not sure about it. If a person can understand the Strategy and the playing click of a beting sector then the person can play easyly. You are saying mentally unstable person maybe not. Becose the person don't understand the Strategy and can't remember what he have to do at the situation or not. It the person mentality unstable but he know that and know how to play then it is possible but an unstable person how remember the strategy of gambling is it possible ?
I want to agree with you in that if the "mentally unstable" person isn't at any point in cause of them playing the game harm anybody then they shouldn't be considered not worthy of gambling because at that point they aren't a threat to any one neither are they hurting anyone and there's no restrain from the government of the casino.

There are various forms of instability when it has to do with mental illness and such such should be treated with such reference because some may be temporary and the others are permanent, the temporary ones can actually still gamble regardless of their challenge at the moment so they shouldn't except in chronic and severe cases they the mentally challenged is now becoming a threat to the casinos and other people around them then immediate actions of restrictions should be placed on such a person.
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Maybe it not or could be yes im not sure about it. If a person can understand the Strategy and the playing click of a beting sector then the person can play easyly. You are saying mentally unstable person maybe not. Becose the person don't understand the Strategy and can't remember what he have to do at the situation or not. It the person mentality unstable but he know that and know how to play then it is possible but an unstable person how remember the strategy of gambling is it possible ?
Yes, maybe they gamble based on what they remember. Sometimes, people who are mentally unstable can gamble like other people because perhaps they can think about the strategy. But it will come back to each person because anything can happen, and we don't know the actual situation and are just guessing. Surely, that person has often gambled at the casino, and it could be that he only plays the same gambling game because it makes it easier for him to gamble. So he doesn't need to make a lot of strategy and just plays based on what he can afford. And it's not because he's dressed shabbily that we can think the person is mentally unstable.

Good point and with a situation like this he will just continue repeating what he thinks that's easy for him to play and remember,  as long as he have the money to use and he is playing the same way a normal person is playing the game, there's should be no discrimination that needs to apply,  he just like a normal person who also wanted to enjoy, not unless he creates issue with his mental attitude that might harm the business or the people that around him, but as long as there are none better to let him enjoy as normal person do.
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that makes sense, and indeed the casino company doesn't seem to mind that, as long as he has money and comes to the casino to gamble it doesn't matter as long as it doesn't disturb the comfort of other people around him, because in my opinion what the casino is looking for is profit so who does If you have money then you are allowed to gamble, unless they don't have money and are mentally unhealthy, maybe it will be prohibited by the casino. because as you said, it could be that they gamble because they need entertainment, they want to have fun, and also the way each person handles their mental stability is different.
Someone who has money will be allowed to enter and gamble, but perhaps with the caveat that they don't disturb the comfort of other people in the casino, if they do disturb them they will also be expelled by the casino. and if other people don't feel disturbed they won't mind unless there are lots of complaints from other gamblers about people who are mentally unstable, it's possible that the casino will expel them because it's impossible for the casino to want to lose a lot of customers or visitors because of one person who doesn't make them comfortable gambling.
I have said what you said before and indeed almost the majority of people who reply here definitely have the same thought that as long as mentally unstable people don't disturb other people when gambling, it doesn't matter, after all, the person also pays and takes money to the casino or at least it's as if buying food with real money and not scaring other people. but if the gambler is under mental pressure, even though he is carrying money and does not disturb other people, it makes other people uncomfortable, it seems like the casino should give them their own seat or send them away in a subtle way so as not to scare other gamblers.

however, I slightly disagree with your opinion about the most important thing being that casinos only need money. even though casinos need income from customers or gamblers, they also have a responsibility to overcome any problems that exist. If a gambler who is mentally unstable comes to the casino wearing clothes that are not suitable for use, it will definitely make other gamblers uncomfortable so the casino is obliged to give a warning fine or lend more decent used clothes so that the conditions in the casino are safe and comfortable.
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Maybe it not or could be yes im not sure about it. If a person can understand the Strategy and the playing click of a beting sector then the person can play easyly. You are saying mentally unstable person maybe not. Becose the person don't understand the Strategy and can't remember what he have to do at the situation or not. It the person mentality unstable but he know that and know how to play then it is possible but an unstable person how remember the strategy of gambling is it possible ?
Yes, maybe they gamble based on what they remember. Sometimes, people who are mentally unstable can gamble like other people because perhaps they can think about the strategy. But it will come back to each person because anything can happen, and we don't know the actual situation and are just guessing. Surely, that person has often gambled at the casino, and it could be that he only plays the same gambling game because it makes it easier for him to gamble. So he doesn't need to make a lot of strategy and just plays based on what he can afford. And it's not because he's dressed shabbily that we can think the person is mentally unstable.
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It's tricky deciding if someone with mental health condition can win at gambling.  I mean, if they get the rules and can think straight, maybe they'd make bank.  It's mostly about luck anyway.  But if their condition messes with focusing, memory or reasonable choices, they'd probably lose their shirt. 

I knew this guy who had anxiety bad and  get the shakes something awful when he played poker.  But he read a ton of books on tells and odds and everything.  For a while he cleaned up.  Then he lost it all in one bad night.  So I guess it depends.
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