a depressed person isn't same as a mentally unstable person, the two conditions are entirely a different health issues, so a depressed person can still work and not be violent but I don't think this can be true with a mentally unstable person. He's mental so what sense has he to work ?
True. I agree with you Lida93. But I know some mentally unstable people still work at their family business to help their family. They work only what was instructed to them and always need guides and helping hands. The important thing is, even though they work and help in the family business, the members never give him cash money to spend according to his wishes, he always asks his family what he needs and they buy that thing for him.
So, he has no chance to gamble at all. The person I was talking about is our local and almost everyone knows him. Even if he goes to any shop and wants expensive things, the shop owners will refuse even if he wants to buy them with cash. Because they know that he is mentally unstable!
For this set I wouldn't categorize them as mentally unstable but people that are deficiency of reasoning and self determination, because like you said they take orders, follow orders accordingly as instructed and don't act except they are told to and for that other people see them as persons that can't decide for themselves therefore even when they try to take certain spontaneous decision for themself people will interpret it as unintentional because of their mental deficiency.
All am trying to cap in real sense is that mentally unstable people (demented person) don't take instructions neither do they adhere to it to go with. So those persons you @shishir99 is referring to as not mentally deranged or demented but are just deficiency of reasoning of their own. They are like dummy's.
Mentally deranged or unstable persons are well known for their violent behaviors of causing harm to others, they don't work for money neither have a sense to gamble for money but this man from the op does the opposite which makes me count him as not mentally unstable but as someone suffering from a depressive condition from life's challenges that had overwhelmed him making him to care less of himself
I don't think it is all mentally unstable people that are violent. I also feel that the ability to work and gamble is not a yardstick to conclude that somebody is sound. Many emotionally unbalanced people still work and are not violent.
Alright, they may not all be that violent but still normal people won't feel comfortable occupying same space with them knowing that this person has a mental health problem. And one more thing @fiatless, a depressed person isn't same as a mentally unstable person, the two conditions are entirely a different health issues, so a depressed person can still work and not be violent but I don't think this can be true with a
mentally unstable person. He's mental so what sense has he to work ?
I don't understand your point of argument because you keep contradicting your former stance. You stated in your former post that mentally unstable people are violent and might not have the ability to earn a living and gamble. There was no time you made any effort to distinguish the type of mentally unstable people you were referring to when you generalized that they cannot work and are all violent. You never said anything about discomforting other gamblers, and neither did I mention any of the concept of depression. Come to think of it depression is a mental disorder and some of the cardinal signs of this condition (especially in extreme conditions) are anger and aggression which is the root cause of violence.
However, I think I have learned some lessons from this thread which include that everyone has the right to gamble as much as his presence doesn't cause discomfort to other gamblers and the casino management deems them fit. Also, we shouldn't judge a person's mental state by merely looking at their physical appearance. And it seems that most terms of service of many gambling platforms are silent on this issue. It is also evident that some national laws might not have covered this area.
I don't know what seem to be contradictory in my explanations to you. I still hold my ground on this matter that the mentally unstable people can't work except they are not really mentally unstable but are a depressive individual's or person's suffering from mental deficiency in such state of condition they can work to a limit but for mentally unbalanced persons am not sure. And if they are allowed to gamble if am to be fair they are humans too despite their condition so they have a right to take up human activities too but normal people won't feel comfortable around them because they wouldn't know what next action they can carry out as it rings in their head ignorant if the consequences of their actions.
And for the record depression as you had defined as a mental disorder is actually not correct as you had defined it. According to the
Wiktionar-Dictionary defined depression as (psychology) In psychotherapy and psychiatry, a state of mind producing serious, long-term lowering of enjoyment of life or inability to visualize a happy future. There was no mention of a mental disorder.
We're all here to learn and it should also delight you to know that I have learnt new ideas from your Op post but that being said we still have to sharpen some edges and not agree to all things uniformly.