Topic: Should mentally unstable people be allowed to gamble? - page 14. (Read 2371 times)

This kind of assessment needs to involve a psychologist expert if there is indeed a statement letter from the relevant party about the mental disorder experienced.
But of course this will not be done randomly in people who appear to have mental disorders according to our observations.

But if they are the closest people or family, it is necessary to do some checks to determine if they appear to have a mental disorder due to gambling or not, This needs to be done.

But when we do the idea of mental disorders in strangers, and they don't accept it, of course we will accept the problem of unilateral accusations that are detrimental to the accused person.

But when someone has committed a criminal act or an act that can endanger others, the accusation directly and reporting to the authorities is not a problem,
because there is an element of mental disorder that arises right away.

On the contrary, not just anyone can state or determine the actual mental state of an individual. Unless of course, you want to judge a person purely by appearance which is what is presented for you and others to see.
There are also mentally unbalanced people that dress okay and behave somewhat normally that you won’t at first notice anything amiss about them.

We definitely need a professional to first diagnose the mental health of an individual as well as getting the proper treatment required.

It's indeed wrong to make hasty judgments based solely on appearances. Inclusive approach should be adopted that allows people a chance to demonstrate their behavior and intentions. It's important to maintain a secure and orderly environment within establishments. Security measures are in place to ensure the safety and well-being of both customers and staff. Addressing potentially disruptive behavior is a valid concern, and intervention may be necessary in certain situations.

The contention that individuals who may not dress well should still be allowed to enjoy their time and engage in activities like gambling underscores the principle of fairness and non-discrimination. Making assumptions about someone's character solely based on their attire can lead to unfair treatment and exclusion. The financial capacity or the ability to engage in the activities offered by the establishment should be a primary consideration.

I think the problem with things like this is that it seems to involve judgement of an individual.  Who is to say if someone is mentally unstable or not?  How is this information to be obtained?  You have to watch out for slippery slopes with these sorts of things.  Maybe if a person signed some document claiming to be mentally unstable then you could have a discussion, but the idea of observing someone and determining they are mentally unstable and denying them certain things seems like a bad idea to me.

Should people with violent tendencies be allowed near children, near firearms, or knives?

That's basically what you're asking. Of course there's no law that prohibits people like these from ever getting their hands on such weapons and personal effects, and so do people with mental health problems and gambling, but I think you know where I'm heading with this. People with mental health problems who decide to gamble will only cause themselves even more problems in the future. Which then leads to them getting addicted, which becomes a separate yet real problem on its own, becoming way harder for the person to deal with himself and his problems as time passes by.

When you give someone who can't take a break another way for them to exert their escapist's tendencies, they get addicted to it and they end up becoming problematic. Whereas if you give them the actual help that they need they get to become better and more acceptable versions of themselves.

There's no legal obligation for us to stop someone who's already mentally unstable to gamble his life away. But I think as humans we should be ethically and morally responsible for the welfare of one another, and we should act accordingly if we ever get into the same situation as OP has been.

People are naturally judgmental, its not really that a shocker.  . When someone do really visit out on a casino venue then everyone is really that free on doing so. Dont mind others gestures or on how the way they look and behave because we do really have different appearances and on how we do deal up with things. It is really just that normal that there might be some noticing others appearances but judging out is never
been that ideal or something that would be good into consideration. How you would be able to know if someone isnt really that mentally stable? The way they do behave? The way that they do looks?
You are really just that too judgmental if you are really that something like this. You cant really just that make yourself to have that kind of behavior or something not really that recommended at all.

Dont make yourself that having kind of views into other people so easily. You would really be that getting that kind of negative impression towards other peoples eyes.
We dont like into those people who are really that easy to judge.

That's really hard to do because it is subjective at the time of placing bets.  And then to some degree there are levels of instability.  What constitutes someone who passes the eye test and what doesn't.  In the end if someone isn't doing something illegal than casinos will most likely let them bet other wise they set themselves up for discrimination lawsuits.

That's right, they all have the rights to stop someone they think are suspicious and will cause a ruckus. But I think that each customer that they see will be given time to be observed before they do any action like kicking him outside the premises or will keep him inside and continue to gamble. Usually, if these people that don't dress well have got mone and it's seen at the entrance or have been checked, they'll just allow these people to enjoy their day and win or lose, they'll still get that person's money through losing their games.

I think mine question we need to ask ourselves is whether mentally unstable people can be restrictions from gambling? If yes, then how would that be done. Even preventing children from gambling is very hard let alone talking about adult that are mentally unstable. It is when you see a person and you feel like this person is mentally unstable before you think of the next step to take. Gambling is mostly done online especially for cryptocurrency casino which can be very difficult to know who is who and how to prevent some certain issues. It is never easy to know whether the person gambling online is mentally unstable or not.

Yet, it is unfair and inaccurate to judge someone only on the basis of how they look; it is as though we are assuming things about them or making views about them without knowing anything about their character, behavior, or their possible situations. As you mentioned, judging someone by their appearance can be cruel and could result in our removal from our jobs. One thing is that we have no proof of their actions in real life.
People who are great pretenders, like wolves in sheep's clothing, can sometimes deceive others. There are also those who experience a gambling addiction without showing any outward symptoms or attitudes connected to it. You never know, though they might have been more likely to cause trouble from the area and the bar person did not pay attention to them because he might have believed that they were mentally stable even though they are not.

Therefore, we must always keep in mind that it is more fair and kind to approach others with understanding and make an effort to comprehend their situations and experiences before throwing judgement.

100% No, because gambling can cause mental health issues and gambling addiction definitely will make it worse for someone who already has a mental health issue.
Based on your story, the guy might have personality disorder, depression, ADHD or other mental health issue from his gambling addiction in the past.

However, an employee nor the owner of the bet shop will not reject or ban any of their customers who might have a mental health issue as long as the custommer paying with cash and never create any trouble to their business.
Business is business, there is no legitimate reason why the bet shop must reject/ban anyone with mental issue to place bet on them.

True. I agree with you Lida93. But I know some mentally unstable people still work at their family business to help their family. They work only what was instructed to them and always need guides and helping hands. The important thing is, even though they work and help in the family business, the members never give him cash money to spend according to his wishes, he always asks his family what he needs and they buy that thing for him.

So, he has no chance to gamble at all. The person I was talking about is our local and almost everyone knows him. Even if he goes to any shop and wants expensive things, the shop owners will refuse even if he wants to buy them with cash. Because they know that he is mentally unstable!

The certification of a person to be said to be mentally unstable is not something that demands professionalism to know, for just by the abnormal behaviours and actions expressed by the individual it will be written all over him/her. What we can argument on about that needs a professional hand is only in the aspect of getting a cure it solution to the mental ailment.

Alright, they may not all be that violent but still normal people won't feel comfortable occupying same space with them knowing that this person has a mental health problem.  And one more thing @fiatless, a depressed person isn't same as a mentally unstable person, the two conditions are entirely a different health issues, so a depressed person can still work and not be violent but I don't think this can be true with a mentally unstable person. He's mental so what sense has he to work ?

I agree with you, because basically what physical casinos are looking for is profit so they don't care about people who are mentally unstable, because if they still have enough money to gamble then I don't think it's a problem, also with an unsightly appearance, maybe He just disguises himself like that and in reality he is a person who has a lot of money , but he doesn't know what their motives are. Obviously, profit is still the main thing in physical casinos. and it's true what you said, if they are mentally unstable but don't disturb other players around them then that's not a problem either. Unless they disturb other people's comfort, casino security must take further action.

that won't be a problem for casino owners because what they are looking for is profit, where there is money we can gamble but if there is no money then we can't gamble, also looking at the appearance might make people in the physical casino a little disturbed , but the casino doesn't care about that, unless there are a lot of people who file complaints or protests about the presence of people who are mentally unstable and whose appearance disturbs comfort, then maybe the casino has to act, because it's impossible for them to want to lose a lot of customers just because of one people who make other customers uncomfortable.

Sometimes people are judge due to their poor physical appearance. However, this is gambling, appearance is not important there as no matter how you look, at long as you have the money to play, you are very much welcome.

There are people who are consistent in going in a gambling shop and actually they are the biggest contributors of the profit of a casino as those who are rich are very smart in managing their money, they just gambling occasionally and they have control to just bet based on limit. These small time gamblers usually makes mistakes, they go aggressive and sometimes they'll end up borrowing because they go beyond their budget.

Firstly I will not judge someone's mental health from their appearance this common saying don't judge a book by the cover so don't judge from the look first, when I read the story I was expecting the part when you will say he fought or harassed someone in the casino shop but you never mentioned so how is this person mentally unstable?, I know of a man in my locality he always appears as a mad man but he is normal and strangers usually mistake him as a mad man, in my opinion if he's not causing any harm or threat then he's allowed to gamble, there's no law as such in a local casino shop but still some people will refuse to attend to someone dressed like that.

There are many individuals that are mentality unstable but they don't get serotype as their disability is still in a manageable state, the individual hasn't cause any harm therefore I don't think we should chase them out of the bet shop. He didn't stay there for long, he only place his bet and left and I think that is okay. From your explanation, he does some job and it means he isn't a very mad individual yet, he's still doing things like everyone else so he should be allowed to gamble.

Mentally unstable individually are human beings too and they shouldn't be deprived of the entertainment of gambling, as a casino owner or betting shop owner, you can pay extra attention to them and if they want to cause any discomfort to your other customers, your security personnel should step in and keep peace in the casino, if the mentality disabled man isn't causing problem allow them to enjoy the game.

But sometimes not everything we see matches the actual facts, such as judging someone in terms of a shabby appearance and it turns out that his heart is clean or has a much better behavior and nature than people who wear jaz and office workers. So as an officer of course what must be prioritized is some precautions to minimize the risks that can occur in the comfort of other visitors to the casino.

Researching and confirming whether the person is a sane person or really has a mental disorder is something that must be done by the officers, so I will not blame if the officers at the casino are so strict in limiting people who look suspicious in terms of appearance, because after all this is the duty and obligation as an officer who has full responsibility to keep the situation safe and maintain the comfort of the visitors who come.

Sometimes what you see is the truth when it comes to a person's appearance and you really can't help it because you're either being humane but you will be removed from your job so that's how it's going to be sometimes. Sure the dress code would be a good idea but the problem is that if they're really mentally unstable and they're looking like that then you're putting yourself in danger.

I'm in favor too, for the safety of others especially if a person is a legit and clinically diagnosed with mental illness, But if a person is being judged because of physical appearance and there's a proof that this person didn't do anything bad inside the casino/gambling shop then It seems like it would be unfair to them if they were suddenly banned just because of a misjudgment and the way a person dressed. Maybe the best thing to do is to tell and talk to the person about the dress code or the casino themselves should make rules about this matter, not to suddenly ban the person from entering the shop because people think he is mentally unstable even though it has not been proven yet .