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Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

This is a tricky one but I think the gambling assistant has said it all, that he's harmless and that's what you should go with. The dude is a fully grown man, he doesn't steal to gamble, he takes care of himself by doing odd jobs. So as long as he appears okay, does what every normal person does whenever he's in the gambling shop, then he should be allowed to stake his bet and leave. If at any point anything changes, then he should be stopped.
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Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

Everyone is free to gamble in any casino, as long as they don't disturb other gamblers despite having problems mentally. Some cases of people with mental illness cause violence, misbehaving, etc. which is understandable but if they mess around the physical gambling houses then probably they could be kicked out. But there's no such thing that they would be in jail for having an illness and gambling, they are also people who want to have entertainment they don't want to be at the hospital just to cure themselves I think you are expecting. Even the attendant is comfortable with him cause his mental health doesn't affect anyone but himself, plus his appearance doesn't have anything to do with his illness as well, if there's a person with dirty clothes and unkept hair should we assume that person has a mental disorder? Never judge someone based on their appearance and never assume their health state unless you are informed.
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My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

There is a saying, don't judge a book by its cover. so you see, what you see does not necessarily reflect what you actually think. so, remember that thinking like that is not true. personally, I have encountered many characteristics of people like what you said in this thread. although not in the exact situation and conditions as you say, I mean not like the case we are discussing. A person can style according to what he wants, even though he looks like he has mental problems. but we never know for sure, especially since the man acted like a normal person. unless you really know the person. in this thread, you say, the gambling shop claims that he is a regular customer and he has never behaved badly.

My question is, what should we debate with this person, isn't he/she has the right to what he/she wants? in fact, many people have mental disorders. even people like us who look neat, but have personality problems. many also have another side with mental problems, especially those related to gambling. IMO, referring to what you said, it seems there is no written obligation for the shop to ban it because of its appearance problem. on the contrary, your moral obligations will be questioned first, by welcoming them well and then asking about several things. if winning doesn't indicate a mental problem, why ban someone. physical appearance does not determine a person's identity, in fact we cannot judge based only on our eyes. the problem is different, if this man comes to a top casino which requires its customers to dress appropriately and in accordance with the regulations implemented by the casino. if it's just a gambling shop and the person is able and willing to risk his money, then that's his right. as long as it's not disturbing, as long as it doesn't violate the rules, everything is fine.
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Sometimes, what you see is not what you get. You can never judge a person just by mere seeing his physical looks. You can't criticize him  being mentally unstable just because he wears dirty and stinky clothes. Except if he does crime or illicit activities near or inside the betting shop, then he should be banned and not allowed to bet.

Everyone is free to gamble and chose their desired bets regardless of his physical or mental condition. As long as he knows how to control it and is able to gamble without breaking the rules, then he should be welcome to gamble.

What? No! Mental condition is a serious issue and as well as we don't allow kids to drink alcohol and smoke we shouldn't allow mentally unstable people to gamble. How can they "know how to control it", what are you talking about? Only adults in their right mind should be allowed to gamble, there can't be two opinions about it.
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The mentally unstable people can’t make the win in the gambling site,because they are mentally unstable.They can’t able to take the correct decision and how they can do the right betting in the gambling site.Actually the fact is they never win with the unstable mind,they need of medical treatment and care.So the gambling is the game for the people with sound mental condition.The physical appearance may not affect the game,many of my friends who working in the gambling industry had said more stories about the physical appearance of the gamblers.
How do you define someone as mentally unstable? Just because someone might be suffering from mental illness doesn't mean they can't decide for themselves. I find your statement a little overexaggerated. You claim that gambling is for mentally sound people when a large percentage, if not the largest, is addicted and blows away their money. We've seen quite a few users here ranting about how they bet everything and lost it. With that being said, you're claiming that a large percentage of gamblers, including those on the forum, are mentally unstable, right? Because that's what you're basically saying.

Thus, you may need to reconsider your definition of mental illnesses and who's unstable or not.
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I don't think they can, nor should they. Casinos don't play the role of the psychologist; they're there to make money, not to advise users against gambling or introduce a cooling-off period. It's not the casino's issue that someone is addicted. On the contrary, they're basically taking advantage of people's weaknesses to profit, that's why the majority loses money, because they can't control themselves. As long as someone is paying and isn't causing issues to the staff or other attendants, they should be left alone to mind their own business. There's no way to prohibit specific people unless they've been banned from the premises; it's unethical and could also be considered racist and discriminating.

The mentally unstable people can’t make the win in the gambling site,because they are mentally unstable.They can’t able to take the correct decision and how they can do the right betting in the gambling site.Actually the fact is they never win with the unstable mind,they need of medical treatment and care.So the gambling is the game for the people with sound mental condition.The physical appearance may not affect the game,many of my friends who working in the gambling industry had said more stories about the physical appearance of the gamblers.


That's also my point. If you are already being tagged with behavioral issues, then at that time you will not be allowed to enter the premises. It gives the owner and all the people who are involved with the security not to allow you to prevent any issue from happening again. It's the right that the government or the licensure body provides to the casino to avoid any potential risk for the business.

But, on that side note, if there's no problem or anything that might harm the place, there should be no restrictions that should be made. The person has the money and has that ability to quit after playing without doing anything bad.

The gambler with more temptation will not fit for the gambling industry,because fighting with the gambling site after a loss is no use.Instead improve your game and the possibility for the winning will increase in the gambling.Many of my friends made the money only by changing their view of the gambling and improved their skills towards the game.Because the gambling site or offline gambling which was legit will not scam you,it may happen because of your mistake.
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That's not really a question you have to ask because the only right answer to that is that no, they're not allowed to gamble because they're going to be danger to themselves and to the people around them, we all know how frustrating gambling is and imagine if you're in the shoes of that mentally unstable person, you're probably going to think that they'll take their losses even harder which will definitely happen because they're not good at handling their emotions.
Well, it is difficult to accept things like this, it is natural that mentally unstable people should not even go near a casino, because it is obvious that things can be very dangerous, in this order of ideas we must see gambling as one of the options that It is very favorable that it be done in other ways, for example a person who is an adult must know well his condition, so gambling, casinos, sports betting, there are activities that they cannot do, as well as taking care of children, Ancions are things that should not be allowed, worse as we are in a society where now freedoms are very different from what they were before because there are many things that go overlooked, but in the specific case of a casino a person like that, what can cause It is because there are many crises, and that is what is dangerous, because it is impossible to say what can happen or how they can do to have a better vision of this in the casinos.

A mentally unstable person does not bring anything good, they will always bring problems to everything, the more they focus on things that they should not handle, it is risky for anyone, first of all for the person who is like that because their control will not be 100%, the first thing is to know. What will become evident is that you can suffer the money to go away very quickly, and it can also happen that things when you try to be with someone accompanied, you will notice that anxiety can be one of the things that attack you, then this is not good, It is not viable and it is not safe, so things are difficult to turn out well, a person like that has to live with many rules, and if, in case he plays in a casino, he must allocate a balance willing to lose and that it be little, Because we don't know what actions you should have when betting because if you bet on in-all the same, all your money could go and that's not the idea, things must be well controlled, well played and all the pros and cons must be observed.
Even the most stable minds are overwhelmed by the bright lights, chip clatter, excitement of a win, or misery of a loss. Gambling is entertainment, not bad. The key is responsible gaming. Today's casinos create betting restrictions and offer problem gambling solutions to promote this. Doesn't gambling represent life's uncertainties? Their lessons include risk assessment, pressured decision-making, and accepting results. If the environment is controlled and the person is psychologically healthy, isn't there a lesson about resilience and coping?

We live in an era where personal freedom is highly valued, but with freedom comes responsibility. Gambling can be dangerous for people with mental health issues. So, what if casinos implemented more robust screening processes? This difficult balance protects vulnerable people while maintaining personal liberty. Your idea of setting aside a little, disposable sum for gambling is awesome. This is about enjoying the game without financial worry. Sports betting, casinos, and other gambling may be fun with self-awareness and control. Shouldn't we regard gambling as a leisure activity that needs responsibility and self-awareness?

Without a doubt, the gaming business covers large Boundaries and yes, it is essential to see gaming as a prevailing need to do things well to have fun and we are clear about some points, only that sometimes a casino can get into trouble with a type of people who are not mentally well, if one of these people restricts themselves, many things would begin to fall on them, it would be seen as discrimination, now currently there are many things that are being done to avoid this type of things, there is much more defense for a casino to say that they let him play so as not to discriminate that they did not let him play because he was Mentally not good or suitable, because in the casino things cannot be done like that, neither in the casino nor anywhere, now things are very dedicated in this type of things, I think you should take great care of these types of things.

A person is known to be mentally weak but for some he/she passes as someone normal, no one is a psychologist so he/she is acting and selling or Paying attention to what a person is like, whether he/she has problems or not, this is something that everyone is already responsible, a person must have someone by their side so that they do not do these types of things , or Irresponsibly , it is like the chaos of addictions , a casino is not responsible for the addictions, the addictions we as players are the ones totally responsible for fall into an Addiction , then this applies to this type of people , many times we can be talking to someone and we can assume that they are a normal person , but if they have something, they don't notice it , because we don't know or are interested in studying some humans , I did study my wife, because I wanted to know Everything about her well , and I gave her many tests and everything was fine, but that's another thing , lol, but basically people who are like that with those types of Problems have to have a degree of responsibility much higher than that of a person who is much more mentally stable.
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First, "casinos cant detect mental health issues at the door"? Imagine casinos offering mental health resources. I mean posters, brochures, and fast digital info points. Integrate it into casino culture, emphasizing support.

Online casinos authenticate identification and funds, but how about a cooling-off period? The technology temporarily blocks or mandates breaks if someone's gaming tendencies indicate problems. We must actively promote healthy gaming behaviors.

Community engagement is last. Online and offline casinos could benefit from a mental health-aware and friendly community. Perhaps forums, chat rooms, or on-site assistance. Building a caring community promotes a healthier, more fun gambling experience.
I don't think they can, nor should they. Casinos don't play the role of the psychologist; they're there to make money, not to advise users against gambling or introduce a cooling-off period. It's not the casino's issue that someone is addicted. On the contrary, they're basically taking advantage of people's weaknesses to profit, that's why the majority loses money, because they can't control themselves. As long as someone is paying and isn't causing issues to the staff or other attendants, they should be left alone to mind their own business. There's no way to prohibit specific people unless they've been banned from the premises; it's unethical and could also be considered racist and discriminating.
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Right. Legally and ethically, it depends on where you are. Some places have rules against letting mentally unstable folks gamble. But judging someone's mental state isn't easy. It's a bit of a tightrope between protecting people and letting them make their own choices. If you're worried, the better i think would be not to allow them.
And how are these people going to be identified in a physical casino before their entry? It doesn't make too much sense. However, I understand your point; someone throwing tantrums and breaking down in the middle of a game isn't the best image for the casino and the other attendants.

Online casinos have the advantage (and disadvantage in some cases) of enabling everyone to gamble at any time, from anywhere in the world. I don't see a reason to prohibit users who are suffering from mental illnesses, as long as they're paying and behaving fine.

Exactly, if the person appears as normal and manage to enter the casino without any trace of mental issue, there's no way the security will manage to prevent them to go inside, the moment that they show their mental problem is the only time casino owner or the security can take action in preventing them to go inside, but without any sign they are still allow to play and enjoy.

And like what you mentioned, online casino have that edge, since the only way that you can play is to have the money and have that information to confirm your identity, after that you can fully utilize the services of the house.
First, "casinos cant detect mental health issues at the door"? Imagine casinos offering mental health resources. I mean posters, brochures, and fast digital info points. Integrate it into casino culture, emphasizing support.

Online casinos authenticate identification and funds, but how about a cooling-off period? The technology temporarily blocks or mandates breaks if someone's gaming tendencies indicate problems. We must actively promote healthy gaming behaviors.

Community engagement is last. Online and offline casinos could benefit from a mental health-aware and friendly community. Perhaps forums, chat rooms, or on-site assistance. Building a caring community promotes a healthier, more fun gambling experience.
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Right. Legally and ethically, it depends on where you are. Some places have rules against letting mentally unstable folks gamble. But judging someone's mental state isn't easy. It's a bit of a tightrope between protecting people and letting them make their own choices. If you're worried, the better i think would be not to allow them.
And how are these people going to be identified in a physical casino before their entry? It doesn't make too much sense. However, I understand your point; someone throwing tantrums and breaking down in the middle of a game isn't the best image for the casino and the other attendants.

Online casinos have the advantage (and disadvantage in some cases) of enabling everyone to gamble at any time, from anywhere in the world. I don't see a reason to prohibit users who are suffering from mental illnesses, as long as they're paying and behaving fine.

Exactly, if the person appears as normal and manage to enter the casino without any trace of mental issue, there's no way the security will manage to prevent them to go inside, the moment that they show their mental problem is the only time casino owner or the security can take action in preventing them to go inside, but without any sign they are still allow to play and enjoy.

And like what you mentioned, online casino have that edge, since the only way that you can play is to have the money and have that information to confirm your identity, after that you can fully utilize the services of the house.
If you do have some history that been made out on a certain venue or place then expect that you would really be getting banned but since we do know that there are tons of places on which you can gamble on then it wont really be  that an issue. It would be that normal that they will really be that allowing for those people who dont show any behavior fault on the time that they would be entering  the premises but when things turns out to be obvious or it did really happen then this is where you would really be pointed out on having some behavior problems on which you might be able to get
in into that place for now but in next time there's no way that you could really be able to enter the premises on which it would really be just that normal on having that way.

That's also my point. If you are already being tagged with behavioral issues, then at that time you will not be allowed to enter the premises. It gives the owner and all the people who are involved with the security not to allow you to prevent any issue from happening again. It's the right that the government or the licensure body provides to the casino to avoid any potential risk for the business.

But, on that side note, if there's no problem or anything that might harm the place, there should be no restrictions that should be made. The person has the money and has that ability to quit after playing without doing anything bad.
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Right. Legally and ethically, it depends on where you are. Some places have rules against letting mentally unstable folks gamble. But judging someone's mental state isn't easy. It's a bit of a tightrope between protecting people and letting them make their own choices. If you're worried, the better i think would be not to allow them.
And how are these people going to be identified in a physical casino before their entry? It doesn't make too much sense. However, I understand your point; someone throwing tantrums and breaking down in the middle of a game isn't the best image for the casino and the other attendants.

Online casinos have the advantage (and disadvantage in some cases) of enabling everyone to gamble at any time, from anywhere in the world. I don't see a reason to prohibit users who are suffering from mental illnesses, as long as they're paying and behaving fine.

Exactly, if the person appears as normal and manage to enter the casino without any trace of mental issue, there's no way the security will manage to prevent them to go inside, the moment that they show their mental problem is the only time casino owner or the security can take action in preventing them to go inside, but without any sign they are still allow to play and enjoy.

And like what you mentioned, online casino have that edge, since the only way that you can play is to have the money and have that information to confirm your identity, after that you can fully utilize the services of the house.
If you do have some history that been made out on a certain venue or place then expect that you would really be getting banned but since we do know that there are tons of places on which you can gamble on then it wont really be  that an issue. It would be that normal that they will really be that allowing for those people who dont show any behavior fault on the time that they would be entering  the premises but when things turns out to be obvious or it did really happen then this is where you would really be pointed out on having some behavior problems on which you might be able to get
in into that place for now but in next time there's no way that you could really be able to enter the premises on which it would really be just that normal on having that way.
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Right. Legally and ethically, it depends on where you are. Some places have rules against letting mentally unstable folks gamble. But judging someone's mental state isn't easy. It's a bit of a tightrope between protecting people and letting them make their own choices. If you're worried, the better i think would be not to allow them.
And how are these people going to be identified in a physical casino before their entry? It doesn't make too much sense. However, I understand your point; someone throwing tantrums and breaking down in the middle of a game isn't the best image for the casino and the other attendants.

Online casinos have the advantage (and disadvantage in some cases) of enabling everyone to gamble at any time, from anywhere in the world. I don't see a reason to prohibit users who are suffering from mental illnesses, as long as they're paying and behaving fine.

Exactly, if the person appears as normal and manage to enter the casino without any trace of mental issue, there's no way the security will manage to prevent them to go inside, the moment that they show their mental problem is the only time casino owner or the security can take action in preventing them to go inside, but without any sign they are still allow to play and enjoy.

And like what you mentioned, online casino have that edge, since the only way that you can play is to have the money and have that information to confirm your identity, after that you can fully utilize the services of the house.
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Many children learn from the suffering of their parents' gambling addiction and try to become established themselves. There are also many small boys and girls who become addicted to gambling after seeing their parents gambling. Here every parent must participate in gambling to keep their son or daughter safe. A parent should not gamble in front of their children because young children can get addicted to their parents' gambling.
That makes these children stronger than their parents because they can find their own way to survive the harsh treatment of their parents towards them. In fact, some children can do many things that should make their parents proud, but their parents cannot see it, although some parents end up regretting their actions because they were rude to their children. It is children like these who should be imitated by their gambling parents because their children can be more mature than their parents. That is why if parents want to gamble, they must be able to distance themselves from their children so that their children do not see their parents gambling.
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Right. Legally and ethically, it depends on where you are. Some places have rules against letting mentally unstable folks gamble. But judging someone's mental state isn't easy. It's a bit of a tightrope between protecting people and letting them make their own choices. If you're worried, the better i think would be not to allow them.
And how are these people going to be identified in a physical casino before their entry? It doesn't make too much sense. However, I understand your point; someone throwing tantrums and breaking down in the middle of a game isn't the best image for the casino and the other attendants.

Online casinos have the advantage (and disadvantage in some cases) of enabling everyone to gamble at any time, from anywhere in the world. I don't see a reason to prohibit users who are suffering from mental illnesses, as long as they're paying and behaving fine.
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People generally enter gambling out of curiosity. However, some people who are mentally disturbed by gambling become more addicted to gambling and drugs. People in my area who are in family turmoil and always addicted to drugs are mostly physically visiting offline gambling dens. But it is quite curious that some people fall into the circle of friends and become addicted to gambling. However, if we consider the number of people who are addicted to gambling, gambling addiction is usually more from the family which had a gambler addicted to gambling in the past.
I can't go with your words because many gambling addicts have children who grow up to be good children. I have seen children of many gambling addicts who have become human beings through education and have brought their own lives and families into a bright light. However, there are cases in two-one gambling addicted families that the children have become addicted to gambling by following their parents' gambling addiction.
These children have seen how their parents often mistreat them, and they persist with what their parents do. It is true that children can also become gamblers because they often see their parents gambling, but if their children are raised well by their families, they will not be influenced by anything their parents do that is related to gambling. They can grow well and even change the situation and make their parents realize what they did was wrong. In the end, his parents realized that they had made a fatal mistake and regretted it while trying to cure his gambling addiction. It would be a happy ending for their family.
Many children learn from the suffering of their parents' gambling addiction and try to become established themselves. There are also many small boys and girls who become addicted to gambling after seeing their parents gambling. Here every parent must participate in gambling to keep their son or daughter safe. A parent should not gamble in front of their children because young children can get addicted to their parents' gambling.
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When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?
As long the guy in your story is well coordinated in rapporting with others and within the gambling axis aside his unkept dressing code I think he is as good as the other persons. My emotions goes to him that he should realize what he is doing so he doesn't empty his pocket for the sake of gambling and so also, I hope he also utilizes his winning funds as much better to his essential needs because I have come across of mental changed persons who doesn't see values in most valuables around them instead they take them as trash and let it be exposed to whom knows the values.

The only aspect a mental disabled persons should be prohibited is at when the metal disable persons does not acknowledge the potnetials of what the gambling board is and his inabilities to understand the reasons for gambling.
Aside that, I would urge the gambling attendants to help the mental disabled persons moderate and guides them from not gambling uncontrolably because it is assumed they don't know what they are doing at the moments of spending all they have (funds) in gambling untill they are in need to eat finances could resolve for them.
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People generally enter gambling out of curiosity. However, some people who are mentally disturbed by gambling become more addicted to gambling and drugs. People in my area who are in family turmoil and always addicted to drugs are mostly physically visiting offline gambling dens. But it is quite curious that some people fall into the circle of friends and become addicted to gambling. However, if we consider the number of people who are addicted to gambling, gambling addiction is usually more from the family which had a gambler addicted to gambling in the past.
I can't go with your words because many gambling addicts have children who grow up to be good children. I have seen children of many gambling addicts who have become human beings through education and have brought their own lives and families into a bright light. However, there are cases in two-one gambling addicted families that the children have become addicted to gambling by following their parents' gambling addiction.
These children have seen how their parents often mistreat them, and they persist with what their parents do. It is true that children can also become gamblers because they often see their parents gambling, but if their children are raised well by their families, they will not be influenced by anything their parents do that is related to gambling. They can grow well and even change the situation and make their parents realize what they did was wrong. In the end, his parents realized that they had made a fatal mistake and regretted it while trying to cure his gambling addiction. It would be a happy ending for their family.
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People generally enter gambling out of curiosity. However, some people who are mentally disturbed by gambling become more addicted to gambling and drugs. People in my area who are in family turmoil and always addicted to drugs are mostly physically visiting offline gambling dens. But it is quite curious that some people fall into the circle of friends and become addicted to gambling. However, if we consider the number of people who are addicted to gambling, gambling addiction is usually more from the family which had a gambler addicted to gambling in the past.
I can't go with your words because many gambling addicts have children who grow up to be good children. I have seen children of many gambling addicts who have become human beings through education and have brought their own lives and families into a bright light. However, there are cases in two-one gambling addicted families that the children have become addicted to gambling by following their parents' gambling addiction.
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There are few questions that will stands to answer this topic .

1st - He has money? if yes then why hinder them or bother them from betting?

2nd - Do they behave like Normal? if yes then why we care more? they have life and rights to do what they need .

3rd - Is there rules in casino that they are prohibiting mentally unstable people to bet?  gambling is a business in which they will accept all bettors as long as this bringing them Money .
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That shouldn't definitely cause him to be ambitious here. the effective way is to make him do something other than gambling. If he is married, it is very dangerous for his family. However, gambling, apart from games, can sometimes be a place of outlet for people who feel that their mentality has been damaged. Even though I can't completely prohibit it, it's still better not to do it for those whose mental condition is very bad. This affects his psychology and can even get worse.
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