Topic: Should mentally unstable people be allowed to gamble? - page 4. (Read 2327 times)
According to law, there are unlikely to be any particular laws prohibiting someone from gambling unless they pose an obvious threat to themselves or others. However, this does not guarantee that it is the correct course of action. Finally, it is up to the person and the gaming facility to decide whether or not to allow someone to bet. Even then, it's difficult to determine if the choice is actually in the individual's best interests. It's a difficult question with no easy answers. However, many individuals may gamble for leisure purposes without any bad repercussions, however for certain people, gambling can be a devastating force in their life, and I believe we need to be mindful of this and prepared them if necessary.
Ideally, if the person is mentally disordered he or she should not go to casino and should not gamble, as he is not in the right frame of mind and therefore he can lose money when he is not fit to use his brain. If he insists on gambling, then it becomes the responsibility of his near and dear ones to stop him from gambling and the best way to do so is to restrict him from gaining access to the money. I assume that since he is a mentally disorder person, therefore we may not be in a position to do any job and earn money.
(If he is earning money through any means, it would mean that he is not a mentally retarded person).
(If he is earning money through any means, it would mean that he is not a mentally retarded person).
If he’s stable enough to earn some money and decides to gamble, he could as well be mentally stable enough to gamble and leave without bothering anyone or creating an incident.
Ideally, a mentally unstable individual should be under supervision and shouldn’t be allowed to do things or go out on his own. But if someone who is classified and diagnosed as mentally unstable by society behaves well enough that a gambling establishment think it’s fine and don’t mind collecting their money and allowing them to play, then I guess it’s fine. Until it’s not lol.
And who is to say if a person is fit to gamble or not? You? The casino manager? Are they going to hire a psychiatrist to decide? How are they going to make someone undergo examination? There's no law saying they have to agree to it (at least in the countries that I know). IMO trying to ban such people is pointless because they'll go to your competition and eventually to an online casino.
The law is fain regarding this. If a person is deemed unfit by the court, they're going to be banned, but for that either the family has to file a motion, or he has to get arrested by the police for unlawful behavior, so if he's calm, the casino would have to provoke him somehow to get him to become violent.
And that is the issue with all of this, we want to have products and services available to us all the time and we want this to happen as fast as possible, and yet many people also want for businesses to protect their customers from their own mistakes, introduce a bunch of regulations to make this a reality and force business owners to do something they never wanted to do, and we cannot have both, we must choose and personally I am fine with the current environment in which we can have almost anything we may want, and we are the ones that must restrain ourselves from any behavior that could damage us in some way or form. The law is fain regarding this. If a person is deemed unfit by the court, they're going to be banned, but for that either the family has to file a motion, or he has to get arrested by the police for unlawful behavior, so if he's calm, the casino would have to provoke him somehow to get him to become violent.
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If he look at it as his good past time then better to let him, if there's no harm after playing and if he keeps doing the same after gaming then allowing him to enjoy is not going to wreck your business, but again, if he starts to show up breaking out and control is no longer capable then that's the time that he needed not to be allow inside that casino, it can bring fear to other people who are also gaming around him.
It's a business concern that matters, and a case to case situation which is really hard to answer, it's up to the owner if what he implement for such kind of behavioral issue.
Most people prefer to not be disturbed and so they wouldn't be happy with such a person playing near to them. But if there's a possibility of private rooms for such people maybe that would be the answer. You know, playing in a casino can have a good therapeutic effect and if $50 is lost to slots but you feel better than after going to psychotherapist and it cost less, maybe it's worth it.
that's right, especially if you just glance at the way they dress. of course it feels unethical. as long as he brings money and does not disturb other players I think it's okay to play gambling at the casino. especially if you see someone's character is different from one another.
Ideally, if the person is mentally disordered he or she should not go to casino and should not gamble, as he is not in the right frame of mind and therefore he can lose money when he is not fit to use his brain. If he insists on gambling, then it becomes the responsibility of his near and dear ones to stop him from gambling and the best way to do so is to restrict him from gaining access to the money. I assume that since he is a mentally disorder person, therefore we may not be in a position to do any job and earn money.
(If he is earning money through any means, it would mean that he is not a mentally retarded person).
Mental disordered people have different problems and not all of them won't be able to perform a job. Although in your last line Noormcs5, indeed, a mentally retarded person can't work and won't be in the gambling house. If he does should not be allowed by the families. The actions or moves to take wouldn't be same for each person. Only few humans are completely, 100%, mentally stable. Today's world consists of too many troubles that the newer generation may not adapt easily. In the sense that the person doesn't comply by the rules of the casino, can be pushed away in the casino. It'll be hard to detect a mentally disordered person than a retarded person. The later should be removed in the casino, as it's not conducive to have them around people who are working strides ahead to stabilize the mental health of themselves and their family.
that's right, especially if you just glance at the way they dress. of course it feels unethical. as long as he brings money and does not disturb other players I think it's okay to play gambling at the casino. especially if you see someone's character is different from one another.
Ideally, if the person is mentally disordered he or she should not go to casino and should not gamble, as he is not in the right frame of mind and therefore he can lose money when he is not fit to use his brain. If he insists on gambling, then it becomes the responsibility of his near and dear ones to stop him from gambling and the best way to do so is to restrict him from gaining access to the money. I assume that since he is a mentally disorder person, therefore we may not be in a position to do any job and earn money.
(If he is earning money through any means, it would mean that he is not a mentally retarded person).
There's no way that you could be able to spot it out as a security personnel but it would be that depending on the gestures or actions made but if there's nothing wrong on how someone do
really be having then i dont see that prohibitions would be strictly be applied even into those kind of hunches about behavior problems.
Anyone is really to gamble and it is really just that right that they would really be able to play as long they do have the money that they could make use of. When it comes to unstable
kind of condition of someone then it would really be just that possible that they would be stopped or get kicked out if they are really that able to affect someone on the venue
or simply having those kind of actions on which its not really that something right to do so.
And who is to say if a person is fit to gamble or not? You? The casino manager? Are they going to hire a psychiatrist to decide? How are they going to make someone undergo examination? There's no law saying they have to agree to it (at least in the countries that I know). IMO trying to ban such people is pointless because they'll go to your competition and eventually to an online casino.
The law is fain regarding this. If a person is deemed unfit by the court, they're going to be banned, but for that either the family has to file a motion, or he has to get arrested by the police for unlawful behavior, so if he's calm, the casino would have to provoke him somehow to get him to become violent.
The law is fain regarding this. If a person is deemed unfit by the court, they're going to be banned, but for that either the family has to file a motion, or he has to get arrested by the police for unlawful behavior, so if he's calm, the casino would have to provoke him somehow to get him to become violent.
I believe it would be possible. In developed countries there are complete databases which hold information on the people who have gone through mental institutions, for example. It would be matter for those basa bases to the shared with the staff of the casino and uploading the information in real time. Though, there would be still serious problems in that hypothetical system: people may feel their privacy and their rights are being violated by the government and the casino and also, that system would not stop someone from engaging with gambling in other unregulated markets... They could still gamble or bet with their friends or family, or even with strangers who could meet in secret places to bet on fights or races.
It would not take the casinos to hire extra staff to evaluate anyone,.to be honest, the government could provide all what is needed, though, I would continue to believe it would not be effective.
A person who was released from a mental institution should be healthy and fit to interact with the society, which also includes gambling. In many countries going through person's medical records is not allowed and you can't ban them from entering a casino or something because they used to be incarcerated, held in a mental institution, or are currently being treated.
If they started having access to a medical database, what's stopping them from banning you from the casino because you have HIV, or something. We'd come to a point where stores would put up signs that they don't serve people who once had a mental breakdown, or epilepsy...
It's not that people MAY feel their rights are being violated. If that happens, they are being violated, that's a fact, which makes it impossible to instate in freedom oriented countries. Maybe China will one day do something like that, they're known for crazy ideas and privacy means nothing there.
that's right, especially if you just glance at the way they dress. of course it feels unethical. as long as he brings money and does not disturb other players I think it's okay to play gambling at the casino. especially if you see someone's character is different from one another.
Ideally, if the person is mentally disordered he or she should not go to casino and should not gamble, as he is not in the right frame of mind and therefore he can lose money when he is not fit to use his brain. If he insists on gambling, then it becomes the responsibility of his near and dear ones to stop him from gambling and the best way to do so is to restrict him from gaining access to the money. I assume that since he is a mentally disorder person, therefore we may not be in a position to do any job and earn money.
(If he is earning money through any means, it would mean that he is not a mentally retarded person).
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The gambler who ready to take a risk in the gambling site should play the game with full confidence and physical control over the game.Some people loss their mental control by losing the huge money in the gambling site.It’s essential to take the rest after the gambling loss and most special of the continuous losses in the gambling site.The vacation after the loss in the gambling site will be the better option,many experienced gamblers do this for the mindset of the gamblers to get satisfied.The loss in the gambling sites will be loss,even we can able to recover the same in the future days.We should survive in the gambling site.
And who is to say if a person is fit to gamble or not? You? The casino manager? Are they going to hire a psychiatrist to decide? How are they going to make someone undergo examination? There's no law saying they have to agree to it (at least in the countries that I know). IMO trying to ban such people is pointless because they'll go to your competition and eventually to an online casino.
The law is fain regarding this. If a person is deemed unfit by the court, they're going to be banned, but for that either the family has to file a motion, or he has to get arrested by the police for unlawful behavior, so if he's calm, the casino would have to provoke him somehow to get him to become violent.
The law is fain regarding this. If a person is deemed unfit by the court, they're going to be banned, but for that either the family has to file a motion, or he has to get arrested by the police for unlawful behavior, so if he's calm, the casino would have to provoke him somehow to get him to become violent.
I believe it would be possible. In developed countries there are complete databases which hold information on the people who have gone through mental institutions, for example. It would be matter for those basa bases to the shared with the staff of the casino and uploading the information in real time. Though, there would be still serious problems in that hypothetical system: people may feel their privacy and their rights are being violated by the government and the casino and also, that system would not stop someone from engaging with gambling in other unregulated markets... They could still gamble or bet with their friends or family, or even with strangers who could meet in secret places to bet on fights or races.
It would not take the casinos to hire extra staff to evaluate anyone,.to be honest, the government could provide all what is needed, though, I would continue to believe it would not be effective.
And who is to say if a person is fit to gamble or not? You? The casino manager? Are they going to hire a psychiatrist to decide? How are they going to make someone undergo examination? There's no law saying they have to agree to it (at least in the countries that I know). IMO trying to ban such people is pointless because they'll go to your competition and eventually to an online casino.
The law is fain regarding this. If a person is deemed unfit by the court, they're going to be banned, but for that either the family has to file a motion, or he has to get arrested by the police for unlawful behavior, so if he's calm, the casino would have to provoke him somehow to get him to become violent.
The law is fain regarding this. If a person is deemed unfit by the court, they're going to be banned, but for that either the family has to file a motion, or he has to get arrested by the police for unlawful behavior, so if he's calm, the casino would have to provoke him somehow to get him to become violent.
Yes, that is true because there are casinos that require visitors to be physically and mentally healthy when they visit the casino and want to gamble, and the important thing is that they have money to gamble. But in that case, the casino officer knew the person because the person had often gambled at the casino and never made a fuss, so the casino officer allowed him to enter and gamble. Besides that, the person just wants to gamble and visits the casino periodically, where after finishing gambling, he will immediately leave. Perhaps what surprised us was that the person looked like most people, so we saw it as unusual for it to happen in a casino.
The gambler who ready to take a risk in the gambling site should play the game with full confidence and physical control over the game.Some people loss their mental control by losing the huge money in the gambling site.It’s essential to take the rest after the gambling loss and most special of the continuous losses in the gambling site.The vacation after the loss in the gambling site will be the better option,many experienced gamblers do this for the mindset of the gamblers to get satisfied.The loss in the gambling sites will be loss,even we can able to recover the same in the future days.We should survive in the gambling site.
Most of the time, gamblers will be unstable when they're on a losing streak. To overcome such a situation, gamblers, some of whom used to go for high bets, We can't conclude that someone is unstable just because of their outfit. The person mentioned by OP is a regular gambler, and in physical casinos, they allow people who are mentally stable, it isn't possible. In most of the casinos, we were able to see bars and other entertainment services, which are intended to make people unstable and leave them empty-handed.
Those with the issue of addiction are the once that are always unstable because they are always some kind of a metal state. When you keep having expectations and your not meeting them then it will definitely affect anyone that is addicted and will keep doing revenge gambling until they win. I think their people that are looking very poor not because of anything but their greed. I don't think gambling has any thing to mental challenges. The only thing I see gambling coming with is frustrating, anxiety and depression and if you look at it they are all part of the mental challenges. And everything that as to money comes with there own mental challenges. 
If you ask me that question they are will be one answer is no mentally unstable people shouldn't be allowed to do gambling. Because it can be very dangerous if a mentally unstable people are on the table of gambling. Just as a mentally unstable person is prevented from everything, if they commit a crime, they are not brought under the law, just as it is better not to let them gamble.
On all gambling platforms, there are no restrictions on what mental disorders are suffered by users, they only warn that gambling will be harmful to those who are not prepared.
And There is no questionnaire about how high a person's mental disorder is who wants to get into gambling.
Those who are mentally unwell and get into gambling will be treated the same as other gamblers.
This is a personal matter, it should be peopled in their environment who should care what someone who is mentally disturbed does.
The truth is that there's no already established process in gambling companies that tests people's mental sanity before allowing them to gamble and that's why it's absolutely understandable that a lot of mentally unstable persons still engage in gambling but that's actually not the best way forward ahd the earlier those provisions are made the better for humanity.
Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.
When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.
My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?
A man can never be judged by his clothes or outer appearance. Because outer appearance and inner both are not the same. There are many people in gambling who seem normal but they can be bigger gamblers than other normal gamblers. I think that a gambler, regardless of his appearance, nature or dress, if he behaves decently in a particular house and conducts gambling well, then he must be a good gambler. Moreover, any gambler will get permission everywhere if he does not cause any harm to others. In my sense I know that gambler will be allowed to gamble everywhere. The main point is that whatever the gambler does in general, if he does not harm others, he must not be restricted by any law in the world. When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.
My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?
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Casinos welcome anyone with the means to enter. I think this is a commercial decision that reflects society's view of riches and leisure. Casinos unintentionally promote non-discrimination based on appearance or social status in their pursuit of profit. Is inclusion morally responsible? Should casinos worry about their customers' money or mental health? Business ethics and personal freedom blur in this complex subjectI believe everyone is free to gamble has substantial limitations. As long as adults are legal, gambling is a personal choice. However, what about social and psychological effects? Gambling seduces the weak. Businesses must be considered in promoting responsible conduct. Casinos follow the law, but their ethical regulations on who can bet, especially for people with mental health issues, are complex and poorly explored
Yes, gambling can indeed make mentally weak people more psychologically disturbed if the gambling is unhealthy, I don't think we can blame gambling for causing people to experience mental disorders because it is the gambler's own fault, the casino is only carrying out its duty to promote it to the public with the aim of making a profit and doesn't care about the mental health of its users as long as they can still make a profit.
Moving on to the individual's role. Its essential, right? I value personal responsibility. Someone enters a casino by choice. Choices have exciting and catastrophic effects. However, blaming the casino for gambling addiction is like blaming a bar for alcoholism. The border of personal responsibility shouldnt be blurred.
However, I believe there's an agreement. Casinos could encourage responsible gambling. Not absolving gamblers of their actions, but fostering an environment where fun and responsibility coexist. The key? Balance. Casinos thrive, people enjoy fun, and gambling's bad side is addressed. Its complicated, but empathy and practicality can coexist.
My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?
I was surprised when I read the post title. There's nothing wrong if someone who is mentally unstable wants to gamble. Gambling is open to everyone, even those facing mental health challenges. As long as they can place bets and participate in the games, they should be able to enjoy gambling like anyone else. It would be unfair to deny them this right just because of their mental health. I appreciate that the attendant in your post was kind to all customers, regardless of their situation. Sadly, in my local area, I've witnessed people treating mentally unstable individuals poorly, refusing to sell to them even if they have money. They seem repulsed when these individuals come near them. I don't understand why mentally unstable people shouldn't be allowed to gamble.
A valid point you made there, Sompitonov, but it's rare to find such things happening in gambling. However, the possibility is there, and casino need to stay aware about such dispute from happening. I've seen a man sue a casino for offering him more free drinks which made him lose out in the process. That he wasn't in his right self-control, the alcohol caused it. In a similar scenario for a mentally unstable player, the casino may not be held responsible for his mistake because the house is not meant to know whether he's mentally ill or not. As people perform differently, including mentally unstable gamblers. I don't think the casino would be penalized for allowing a mentally unstable person gamble, if he turns around to declare he wasn't in his right senses. The fault is on the player not the casino.
Most of the time, gamblers will be unstable when they're on a losing streak. To overcome such a situation, gamblers, some of whom used to go for high bets, We can't conclude that someone is unstable just because of their outfit. The person mentioned by OP is a regular gambler, and in physical casinos, they allow people who are mentally stable, it isn't possible. In most of the casinos, we were able to see bars and other entertainment services, which are intended to make people unstable and leave them empty-handed.
Certain gambling places may be required by law, ethics, and morals to check on the mental health of people who show signs of being unstable. There may not be clear rules on how to refuse service to people who are mentally ill and can't make smart choices. It is important to find a balance between safe gambling and personal freedom. Being proactive and working with the police and mental health workers when needed to offer support or advice for people who want to get help may be more effective.
Yes, that is true because there are casinos that require visitors to be physically and mentally healthy when they visit the casino and want to gamble, and the important thing is that they have money to gamble. But in that case, the casino officer knew the person because the person had often gambled at the casino and never made a fuss, so the casino officer allowed him to enter and gamble. Besides that, the person just wants to gamble and visits the casino periodically, where after finishing gambling, he will immediately leave. Perhaps what surprised us was that the person looked like most people, so we saw it as unusual for it to happen in a casino. 
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My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?
There are no such rules in physical casinos where people can participate on the basis of category. Casinos or gambling sites, of course, must provide opportunities for all categories of people to participate and create an environment, but there is a rule-based requirement of gambling that age-based categories, especially school and college students below 18 years of age, cannot participate. But I have never seen a casino where mentally disordered gamblers participate. However, I have never seen a casino that has any rules to prevent a mentally disordered or unstable person from participating.My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?
However, most of today's gambling and casino sites are operated online. There is no way to check who or who participates, and in that case, if a mentally unstable person participates. Because there is no opportunity to directly participate in the casino in online casinos, in this case, any gambler or casino site can participate from any part of the world at any time. In this case, the physical condition of any participant is not taken into consideration.
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