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Well, this discussion have actually come a long way, I checked the date and can see that it's from way back 2023, and this is my first time of coming across this thread, and since the thread is still active, let me chip in my opinion.

I will use an example..

During a presidential election, there is usually a lot of presidential candidates or aspirants (whatever we chose to call them), and each of this candidate is promoting himself and the party his in to the general public seeking their votes, and the general public will cast their votes based on who they like and think is fit to be president, in the end, different people will vote for different candidates, but only one candidate with the most votes must win.
Now, when this candidate that won the presidential election is sworn in as the president of the country, is it right for him to chase all those who did not vote for him away from the country? Is it ok for him to boycott or ignore a city where he did not win in his developmental plan or agenda?.

The answer to the above questions are "NO", because the country is one, and a president should rule a country not with emotion or sentiments.
So also it is with merit sources, being a merit source is a previlege given to some hardworking from members here, and those who given such prelivilege should not abuse it, it is mandatory for them to merit good and deserving posts, regardless of who the post is coming from, not merit a post because the poster is their buddy or friend, that is wrong and an abuse of that office of being a merit source.

An abuse of this position, in my opinion, would be a deliberate disregard for some personal reasons for posts that actually deserve merits. For example, because the merit source doesn’t like the user or there are some long-standing grievances against him and specific user. But I don’t see abuse in emotions as such, because emotions, in principle, cannot be completely neutralized; they will be present in judgments. And it's better to use them wisely.
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Well, this discussion have actually come a long way, I checked the date and can see that it's from way back 2023, and this is my first time of coming across this thread, and since the thread is still active, let me chip in my opinion.

I will use an example..

During a presidential election, there is usually a lot of presidential candidates or aspirants (whatever we chose to call them), and each of this candidate is promoting himself and the party his in to the general public seeking their votes, and the general public will cast their votes based on who they like and think is fit to be president, in the end, different people will vote for different candidates, but only one candidate with the most votes must win.
Now, when this candidate that won the presidential election is sworn in as the president of the country, is it right for him to chase all those who did not vote for him away from the country? Is it ok for him to boycott or ignore a city where he did not win in his developmental plan or agenda?.

The answer to the above questions are "NO", because the country is one, and a president should rule a country not with emotion or sentiments.
So also it is with merit sources, being a merit source is a previlege given to some hardworking from members here, and those who given such prelivilege should not abuse it, it is mandatory for them to merit good and deserving posts, regardless of who the post is coming from, not merit a post because the poster is their buddy or friend, that is wrong and an abuse of that office of being a merit source.
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What do you guys think? Is it unfair to award merits in threads I have started?

As long as you reward in some other threads it is not an issue.

If you are exclusive to just your thread it is a bit unfair.
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What do you guys think? Is it unfair to award merits in threads I have started?
That shouldn't even matter to you -- I mean if it's unfair or not... Why? Cus everyone can't just see things from the same perspective like you do....never!! But as long as it doesn't hurt you or blur the interest of the forum, then you're good with it...
i would rather accidentally merit someone who doesnt deserve it than withhold a merit from some who does deserve one.
Ayyyee!!! So much confidence was shown in that statement which, in turns could be true?....woo? am I to decide that?... It co-ul-d be true....
afterall, The very first time I saw the name "vapourminer" was him meriting a good reply. I've always known him for meriting more than he does post...aside from posting in WO thread

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legendary
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youre not wrong but you may not realize just how lazy i am.
i would also rather accidentally merit someone who doesnt deserve it than withhold a merit from some who does deserve one.
That is bound to happen no matter how much effort you put in to it so no point worrying too much (or at all) about it. Especially if you are a merit source.

I am not a merit source so I should probably be more picky when choosing who to merit, but like you I also don't like witholding merit and usually spend what I get in a matter of few minutes or few hours at the most.
legendary
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
i am rethinking that now cuz i dont want people to post just to get a merit. and many peeps do now. its why we cant have nice things.
There are quite a few merit farmers around that will notice anyone doing something like you did in your threads and will try to exploit it as much as possible but in the end its up to you not to award merit to those who are obviously merit fishing and those are not that hard to notice.

youre not wrong but you may not realize just how lazy i am.

i would rather accidentally merit someone who doesnt deserve it than withhold a merit from some who does deserve one.
legendary
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What do you guys think? Is it unfair to award merits in threads I have started?
Tbh, I don't see anything wrong with that and I think that many of us are doing the same thing when it comes to threads that we started and are (probably) important to us.



i am rethinking that now cuz i dont want people to post just to get a merit. and many peeps do now. its why we cant have nice things.
There are quite a few merit farmers around that will notice anyone doing something like you did in your threads and will try to exploit it as much as possible but in the end its up to you not to award merit to those who are obviously merit fishing and those are not that hard to notice.


legendary
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
One thing I am concerned about is awarding merits in threads I have started. For obvious reasons, I tend to read those more than other threads, so I am exposed to more replies, and I tend to give merit to posts that I feel contribute to the topic of the forum. I am aware that this can create an unfair bias, but I do get rather a lot of merits to award, and I don't seem to have time to read most of the threads here.

What do you guys think? Is it unfair to award merits in threads I have started?

i havent started many topisc but when i did i found i tended to merit replies in my thread in a much different manner than someone elses thread. basically any reply in a thread of mine that wantst blatantly obvious spam would generally get a merit.

i am rethinking that now cuz i dont want people to post just to get a merit. and many peeps do now. its why we cant have nice things.



 
legendary
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What do you guys think? Is it unfair to award merits in threads I have started?
No that is not unfair or something else , i doing the same in my threads when it is a useful post and helps the Forum or any other User.
So there is nothing wrong for doing this , everybody has a different way and style for give other Merits.
Mostly when threads are was or getting started with questions about Crypto related things and they are interesting or good i also leave a Merit there.
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My attitude to awarding merits is personal, and a bit complex. I've still got people on ignore from 5 years ago, so they won't get any merits - maybe I should review this list if I get time. Another factor results from not reading a thread. If a title is printed in all caps, then I assume it is of low value, and I don't open it. Maybe I'm wrong in making this assumption, but it's something I have noticed over the years. I don't like swearing or aggressive behaviour, so that leads me to quit or ignore. I also ignore posters who quote large images or long posts. Seeing the same image re-quoted multiple times just clogs up the thread.

One thing I am concerned about is awarding merits in threads I have started. For obvious reasons, I tend to read those more than other threads, so I am exposed to more replies, and I tend to give merit to posts that I feel contribute to the topic of the forum. I am aware that this can create an unfair bias, but I do get rather a lot of merits to award, and I don't seem to have time to read most of the threads here.

What do you guys think? Is it unfair to award merits in threads I have started?
legendary
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One truth is: the more you chase merits, the more the merits will escape you... let things happen, participate in the forum normally, always be here, the merits will come naturally.
I think your opinion is exectly! But we are always running behind the merit. We should be getting knowledge at first, after getting the proper knowledge the merit will run behind us.
As a newbie, the merit things sound impossible to get. In defense of my reasoning of conviction is only the legendary Members that gives merits that is only if they found your post interesting. my question is it only a particular group of members that gives merit?

As to me, it is very good that newbie cheaters (like you, who use AI for their posts instead of fair communication with others) have problems with getting merit and ranking up. And I saw many good and honest newbies who got merits much faster than their activity grew. So sincere newbies who are really interested in bitcoin don't have problems with getting merits. And those ones who are starting with cheating... well, I don't think they should be on the forum.
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I can say most of merit sources are objective, while most of non merit sources are subjective.

Example:
1. A merit source with 5K merits give someone merit, then this user will merit back the merit source in the next post or other post because he want to make the merit source notice to him or giving more merit.



It's not very right to assume that sending merit to a merit source is meant for them to notice you, yeah some can do it but not all, and have you noticed that old members on the forum with high rank up and merit up to 3k and above earn merit so frequently that even if you where to give them merit they won't notice you.

Some times it's out of appreciation than to get attention.

There are plenty of merit sources and non-merit source members with sMerits to hand out who could give merits to posts that someone wouldn't because of political disagreements/dislike of the poster/whatever.

IMO I think it's quite balanced, everyone was given the privilege to also merit post that they like and feel it deserves merit both merit sources and non-merit sources alike, and I think merit is distributed based on individual preference, I might like a post not because it was helpful to me but because it was well constructed and I gave it merit based on that.
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One truth is: the more you chase merits, the more the merits will escape you... let things happen, participate in the forum normally, always be here, the merits will come naturally.
I think your opinion is exectly! But we are always running behind the merit. We should be getting knowledge at first, after getting the proper knowledge the merit will run behind us.
As a newbie, the merit things sound impossible to get. In defense of my reasoning of conviction is only the legendary Members that gives merits that is only if they found your post interesting. my question is it only a particular group of members that gives merit?
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Giving merits depends not only on the quality of the post. If this were so, then absolutely every useful and interesting post would receive merits. But many such posts go unnoticed, or those who would like to give merits for them do not currently have such an opportunity. That is why there are topics that are created by senior members of the forum, who themselves receive a lot of merits, in which they conduct additional review of posts that can ultimately receive merits.

Yep, and there are many other reasons why some posts receive merits and some don't--but we could go back and forth with that all year and nothing would be resolved.

I already made a reply in this thread, but I just want to say that I do my best to keep emotions out of my merit-giving behavior and I like to think I do a decent job of that, since there aren't too many members here I really dislike (and the ones I don't like are all Legendary ones, and since I try to merit lower-ranking members, that's my excuse). 

But I mean, come on.  People can't be expected to always be impartial when evaluating a post and who it was written by, nor are merit sources even expected to give merits to every single post they find interesting.  There are plenty of merit sources and non-merit source members with sMerits to hand out who could give merits to posts that someone wouldn't because of political disagreements/dislike of the poster/whatever.
legendary
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
It's especially hard to send some people merits when you've ignored them.  As a merit source, I try to give merit to those who deserve it and not just those who cycle it back and forth.  However, I have ignored quite a few people on these boards for various reasons.  Those people who have been ignored will never get a merit from me, not just because I don't like them, but because I literally can't even read their posts.  I guess there's a lesson in there somewhere...  Don't be a total dick or spread lies about people if you want them to read what you have to say. 

i merit people on ignore. because you do see their quoted text in other posts. so on occasion i will see an ignored persons quoted post thats decent, go to the original post and unhide it and merit it.

people go on ignore for a variety of reasons and even assholes make the occasional good post.

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Before anything, these are human beings you are dealing with & emotions are very much part of the biology!
So understanding the point raised means , if you choose a path that  will put you in bad books with merit sources and not get you these golden nuggets you have yourself to blame, and let's not forget this isn't an easy undertaking especially that this isn't a paid job for them to spend time going through threads looking for posts that qualify to be merited... otherwise naturally merit should be based on the quality of the most just like they do when making applications when trying to become merit sources.
Honestly, it’s hard to send merits to those posters you dislike in the forum. But I don’t think we should tolerate this kind of feeling towards other members in the forum since we are here not to compete nor take an edge over others but to work harmoniously with other members. Anger nor envy has no room in the forum.

Merits are actually given freely to those who are deserving high quality posters in the forum, and I think we should stick to this idea because merits should be earned, not to serve as an exchange for some favors.

It's especially hard to send some people merits when you've ignored them.  As a merit source, I try to give merit to those who deserve it and not just those who cycle it back and forth.  However, I have ignored quite a few people on these boards for various reasons.  Those people who have been ignored will never get a merit from me, not just because I don't like them, but because I literally can't even read their posts.  I guess there's a lesson in there somewhere...  Don't be a total dick or spread lies about people if you want them to read what you have to say. 
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"Should Merit-Sources send merit based on their feelings or quality of the post?"  Cheesy
Kinda general and drawn out when I started to capitalize on every merit sender instead of just merit sources, yeah I know but the thing is this topic's gonna boil down to that at the end of the day. Every merit source in this forum's got their own way of cycling the merits among the users, but the main gist of their job is that they only send merits to people they see fit, which oftentimes coincides with the quality of their posts among certain factors. The discussion literally ends there.

All I'm saying is that, it wasn't for us to say or tell them who to merit and how much. They could send it to people they like or personalities they deem as friends in here and it wouldn't really matter. Long as the merits are cycled and there's nothing fishy going on, they are good.

Am I wrong? Do we have specific guidelines stating that merit sources, and everyone who has merits to share are required to only send those merits to posts that they feel are good in quality and structure (I mean the intent is there, but where is it explicitly stated that they have to abide by these rules?)
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One truth is: the more you chase merits, the more the merits will escape you... let things happen, participate in the forum normally, always be here, the merits will come naturally.
I think your opinion is exectly! But we are always running behind the merit. We should be getting knowledge at first, after getting the proper knowledge the merit will run behind us.
I've read this story over and over again, but it is not particularly true. Many would chase after the merits but with quality posts and would get it, while others would not chase after it and have quality posts and would still not get it. Nonetheless, some with lesser quality posts would chase after the merits and get it even more, so what you said is though a general saying here. but it's not particularly true.

The merits distribution on this forum is so unexplainable, regardless, do your bit and leave the rest. Nonetheless, if you are writing quality posts, it will often attract merits no matter how little.
Exactly. Just do what you think is right, and if you think that certain post deserves a merit, then go. In the end, we all give merits based on our own analysis. Of course, some feelings are inevitable, so it could be that others give merits because there is positive feeling towards the owner of the post. But whatever it is, just mind your own. In the end, posts that are good and highly meaningful to other members deserve to be merited, although not all valuable posts are given the same opportunity.
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One truth is: the more you chase merits, the more the merits will escape you... let things happen, participate in the forum normally, always be here, the merits will come naturally.
I think your opinion is exectly! But we are always running behind the merit. We should be getting knowledge at first, after getting the proper knowledge the merit will run behind us.
I've read this story over and over again, but it is not particularly true. Many would chase after the merits but with quality posts and would get it, while others would not chase after it and have quality posts and would still not get it. Nonetheless, some with lesser quality posts would chase after the merits and get it even more, so what you said is though a general saying here. but it's not particularly true.

The merits distribution on this forum is so unexplainable, regardless, do your bit and leave the rest. Nonetheless, if you are writing quality posts, it will often attract merits no matter how little.
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One truth is: the more you chase merits, the more the merits will escape you... let things happen, participate in the forum normally, always be here, the merits will come naturally.
I think your opinion is exectly! But we are always running behind the merit. We should be getting knowledge at first, after getting the proper knowledge the merit will run behind us.
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