Topic: Should Merit-Sources send merit based on their feelings or quality of the post? - page 3. (Read 1910 times)

I don't think is that easy to have merit as a newbie, haven't you noticed how threads that are related are being started just to hustle up some merit? Is really frustrating as a newbie when you lack merit, that first merit is like a life saver that comes with plenty of joy, the other ranks are like old members that have seen it all so they have 85% chance of getting merit than the newbies.
I don't know but I feel newbies have to work harder to earn their merit, not saying that is bad to put more effort but is really difficult being a newbie, they have to create thread just to gain that recognition, attention and if they don't is like they don't exist on the Forum.

I doubt very much that there is such thing as "merits someone is supposed to have". I observe different cases, from those where users have very few merits compared to the activity number and also vice versa. Every person is posting in his own way, rhythm, speed and quality, that is why the merit number differs from case to case.

I believe, newbies often talk more about suffering from the rules here that they actually do this. At some point getting merits being a newbie is much easier than being a member or a full member, for example. Because it is common to think that newbies are left behind and nobody pays attention to their posts. But that is not true in most cases, I think.

Some people do merit because the other users doesn't have the merit he or she suppose to have, and he'd be like "this post deserve a merit and nobody is doing let me do it" my point is a post deserve merit but no one is giving it especially newbies surfer from that, and you can just say this is a nice post lemme drop some merit instead, it happens.

I can not agree with your statement. First of all, our feelings are not limited only to pity. For example, I feel pity for other members quite rarely, but what I feel regularly is respect, or desire to support, or feel some kind of a connection with what being written. All of these are different feelings and I don't see anything wrong for them being taken into account while meriting someone. Because we cannot value posts only by rational means.

Secondly, as far as I understood, you claimed that the user has to show, prove why he deserves to be merited. I believe, he doesn't. You see, if it was like you said, than users would write only with this goal - to receive merits. But that is absolutely not the purpose of the forum. Moreover, such motivation often kills the uniqueness and originality of many users, because they try to meet some standards in order to be merited.

If we use feelings then all newbies should have merits on their first post because we have to use pity to give them one not quality.
In our respective local board we know who deserves to be merited because we all understand each other there and an outsider can't understand what is being discussed. So if we're giving merit the user need to show why he or she deserves to be merited.

This is so true, and its up to the Citizens (in this case users) to try to make it as good as possible. And how can we achieve that? Honestly and fairness and not abuse it.
Thank to you all DT users that actually follow this path. You are the real heroes on this website.

I think both. I am not a merit source myself but with the limited sMerits I have, whenever I get the chance, I consider both. Normally in global section, I try to merit only quality posts. And whenever I see posts from my local board or whenever I see somebody I know post, if I like it I try to merit it. And of course, it has to fulfill the minimal quality to be merited. Because if I don't follow the basic rules someone might call me a abuser. I also observe if a person got merited by other reputed members. I also take their action into my accounts.

Lets say you make a contribution that happens to be a challenge in the real life, in this forum or in the tech space that is relatable, it appeals to whoever that is reading it to award merit based on the depth of information you pass across as pertaining to that particular concern.

Hey! I was thinking of something this night, this thing about merits and the merit-sources. If you are a merit-source, should you always give away merit to good posts even if you dislike the user that created the post?
Or are you allowed to be controlled by your feelings and only give away merit to people you like or don't know?

It's a different a user can give merit to whoever he wants, because it's his/hers own merit and they can do whatever they want with it. But a merit-source how should he act? Without feelings or with feelings?

I don't trying to blame anyone, or create any drama and I am not disappointed with my low merits, I am quite happy and proud that I already got ten merit and being a member rank, so I am in no rush what so ever to rank up, I actually love the farming and the journey, because when and if I reach Legendary nobody can say I didn't earn it the right way. I rather let it take years of honest farming then months of cheating.
But back to my question, what do you think aboiut merit-sources when they handle out merit? They  should give merit to all good posts right, even if a user they dislike made a very good post. Or is it okay to just skip to give that user merit even that he made a very good post?

Maybe this come as bit confusing, I am sorry my English is not 10/10. But I hope you will understand! Great weekend everyone.

UPDATE 18th November: I now been on the forum a bit longer then the time I created this topic and I truly believe being a Merit-Source is not as easy or fun as it may look like.
So I want to take the time to say Thank you to all Merit-Sources for giving us your spare-time. 🙏

Although there is no perfect system anywhere.

I don't think if there's any check on the way merits sources disburse their merits, however, member can discuss any kind of suspicious type on the reputation board if found, but I want you to also know that merits sources were chosen base on their level of reputation and contributions they have achieved or earned from the forum, with how the admin is more convinced about their discharge in meriting other people, the scrutiny would have been done properly before they were made a merit source as well.

I can say most of merit sources are objective, while most of non merit sources are subjective.

Example:
1. A merit source with 5K merits give someone merit, then this user will merit back the merit source in the next post or other post because he want to make the merit source notice to him or giving more merit.

2. Someone only meriting or give more merit to their gangs or friends, but the other users who create a same or higher quality from their gangs or friends will not receive higher merits.

Since giving merit like that will not result in ban or negative feedback, we can only accept this culture.

If they are, than the criteria for such checking is very wide, because behaviour of merit sources differ a lot. Some of them don't usually give more that 10 merits for good, quality posts, others could give more that 40 for a short, but capacious reply. That is why we can not follow some common logic behind those actions, because everyone has a special treatment for users here.

And I also believe that merit sources are also checked from time to time to know if they're fair in giving out merits to quality posters.

Humans mostly doing things based on their feelings. 

You know humans, if they do not like someone, they will not do anything in favour of the person they dislike. And can theymos know, he can not know. But we have 109 merit source with approximately 33940 smerits given by theymos almost every 30 days. If a merit source do not like you, another merit source will like you unless you are not posting something useful.

Before becoming a merit source, we were a general forum member. So for me, I always act like I did before. Merit source doesn't mean something extra ordinary. I merit a post where I like it and find it worthy. Sometimes I send a large number of merits even if the post is not worth it because of rank. When someone is struggling to rank up and needs some merit, I help them. We have emotion as well, but we don't necessarily need to show it through merit. I merited my enemy posts as well, when I found them worthy. So for each merit source, thoughts would be different.