Topic: Should Merit-Sources send merit based on their feelings or quality of the post? - page 4. (Read 1910 times)
November 18, 2023, 10:57:50 AM
Humans mostly doing things based on their feelings.
November 18, 2023, 09:22:35 AM
You are not wrong, and I have been told the same thing before. But that's my way of doing it and I am not going to change it. I believe that merits aren't supposed to be hoarded. Imagine if 8/10 people who receive merits refused to reward others with merits? It wouldn't make sense. The entire merit system would, in that case, rely exclusively on merit sources. But if regular users share merits as well (which the majority does), it's a much healthier-looking system with more opportunities for people to be on the receiving end.
Sure, I totally understand this, and frankly, I feel this way as well, because only in this case the system would work as I think it was designed by admins. I don't see any reason in keeping sMerits, because it doesn't give you anything, but it slows down the whole merit distribution instead. You have the right to do as you think would be better and correct, because it's yours sMerits to give away and you are in charge and get to decide. I believe, this is another prove that Merit Sources and just regular givers use their feelings, their own interpretations and I don't see anything wrong with it, because it is impossible to make this system objective, although it is possible to make criteria people use while rewarding some posts more clear and transparent and you did so, which could be very helpful to others when they hesitate to give their sMerits to others.
November 18, 2023, 09:09:37 AM
I totally get your position on this matter, because merit circulation is important to keep the system alive and effective. However, this way you may leave unmerited some quality posts only for a reason that this member won't send any merits to another person. And this is not exactly what the merit system is pursuing. Its main focus still lies on valuing good, quality posts, no matter what the rewarded user choose to do with sMerits he gains.
You are not wrong, and I have been told the same thing before. But that's my way of doing it and I am not going to change it. I believe that merits aren't supposed to be hoarded. Imagine if 8/10 people who receive merits refused to reward others with merits? It wouldn't make sense. The entire merit system would, in that case, rely exclusively on merit sources. But if regular users share merits as well (which the majority does), it's a much healthier-looking system with more opportunities for people to be on the receiving end. 
November 18, 2023, 06:29:02 AM
There aren't many rules about merit distribution for merit sources, so everyone has their own modus operandi. If I don't know the person I want to give merits to for their post, I check if they participate in the merit game. That means, I want to see that they award other users with merits if they receive some. If their distribution is 0 when they have merits to give, I won't merit them.
You absolutely correct on your opinion here, there are some users especially low rank profiles some of them don't like distribution but they are always wanting people to send to them without involved in distribution sides, again we can't truly judge how we distributes our merits but with the real life scenario you gave made me to understand we do have fans..
.. that is, those whom we felt that are mostly correct or that also loves sharing merits to them as well, we can feel the same but whenever there's a beef and a kind of misunderstanding I don't think anyone would spare their merits to user who isn't their fans or friends. Although there are people who finds it difficult to merit some users naturally because they felt such people has enough without knowing that merits are being distribution according to how helpful/meaningful and creatives a post is, Yes we can't questioned anybody how they chose to distribute their merits and even if they don't it doesn't add any meaning and values to their life's because it will not change anything.
November 18, 2023, 04:43:23 AM
If I don't know the person I want to give merits to for their post, I check if they participate in the merit game. That means, I want to see that they award other users with merits if they receive some. If their distribution is 0 when they have merits to give, I won't merit them.
That is exactly what I keep repeating about subjective nature of the merit system and existence of really different criteria which users use when they decide to send merits to somebody. I totally get your position on this matter, because merit circulation is important to keep the system alive and effective. However, this way you may leave unmerited some quality posts only for a reason that this member won't send any merits to another person. And this is not exactly what the merit system is pursuing. Its main focus still lies on valuing good, quality posts, no matter what the rewarded user choose to do with sMerits he gains.
November 18, 2023, 04:17:20 AM
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I totally agree with you here, they should and can and give sMerits to whoever they fell deserve it and I think they all doing a great job.Merit source are a voluntary task – but they have full rights to the source they have and are not prohibited from giving them to whom and in what rank. The main thing expected from a merit system is an increase in the quality of posts - so it is advisable to distribute them to quality posts regardless of who created them.
This thread should continue to be a gentle reminder for those of them who still have a conscience that "to whom much is given much is required," and that much is beyond personal sentiment or I do as I like.
November 18, 2023, 02:47:56 AM
Nothing tastes better than the fruit of your hard work, good luck BabyBandit.
Thank you & Congratulations to 800 merit.
Actually, it's not a bad question. And everyone approaches it differently. I doubt there will be that many people who merit those they don't like or are in a conflict with. If you compare it with a real-life scenario, you wouldn't be spending time with or going out with those you don't like.
Being completely objective is a plus, but hard to achieve. I wouldn't say that there is a spotlight on merit sources, but their merit distribution is easier to spot since there is much more of it. It's possible that a person might ask themselves, should I really merit this user? They are such a controversial and negative figure. Or, what will other people think if they see me merit this person?
There aren't many rules about merit distribution for merit sources, so everyone has their own modus operandi. If I don't know the person I want to give merits to for their post, I check if they participate in the merit game. That means, I want to see that they award other users with merits if they receive some. If their distribution is 0 when they have merits to give, I won't merit them.
Being completely objective is a plus, but hard to achieve. I wouldn't say that there is a spotlight on merit sources, but their merit distribution is easier to spot since there is much more of it. It's possible that a person might ask themselves, should I really merit this user? They are such a controversial and negative figure. Or, what will other people think if they see me merit this person?
There aren't many rules about merit distribution for merit sources, so everyone has their own modus operandi. If I don't know the person I want to give merits to for their post, I check if they participate in the merit game. That means, I want to see that they award other users with merits if they receive some. If their distribution is 0 when they have merits to give, I won't merit them.
Good way to handle a situation if you wanna give out Merit, something I also will take after.
It's a interesting question indeed and yes people are taking it their own way.
Example for me: when I go into a thread for the first time I always go in without feelings and read what is presented and act after that, not after who presented it.
But I guess it's no wrong or right just different ways to approach something that in the end is totally irrelevant.
November 17, 2023, 11:53:00 AM
Actually, it's not a bad question. And everyone approaches it differently. I doubt there will be that many people who merit those they don't like or are in a conflict with. If you compare it with a real-life scenario, you wouldn't be spending time with or going out with those you don't like.
Being completely objective is a plus, but hard to achieve. I wouldn't say that there is a spotlight on merit sources, but their merit distribution is easier to spot since there is much more of it. It's possible that a person might ask themselves, should I really merit this user? They are such a controversial and negative figure. Or, what will other people think if they see me merit this person?
There aren't many rules about merit distribution for merit sources, so everyone has their own modus operandi. If I don't know the person I want to give merits to for their post, I check if they participate in the merit game. That means, I want to see that they award other users with merits if they receive some. If their distribution is 0 when they have merits to give, I won't merit them.
Being completely objective is a plus, but hard to achieve. I wouldn't say that there is a spotlight on merit sources, but their merit distribution is easier to spot since there is much more of it. It's possible that a person might ask themselves, should I really merit this user? They are such a controversial and negative figure. Or, what will other people think if they see me merit this person?
There aren't many rules about merit distribution for merit sources, so everyone has their own modus operandi. If I don't know the person I want to give merits to for their post, I check if they participate in the merit game. That means, I want to see that they award other users with merits if they receive some. If their distribution is 0 when they have merits to give, I won't merit them.
November 17, 2023, 10:22:51 AM
Hey! I was thinking of something this night, this thing about merits and the merit-sources. If you are a merit-source, should you always give away merit to good posts even if you dislike the user that created the post?
Or are you allowed to be controlled by your feelings and only give away merit to people you like or don't know?
The brutal truth is if they don't like you, then chances are slim of receiving any from such sources Or are you allowed to be controlled by your feelings and only give away merit to people you like or don't know?
Besides the only way around this is to try to make yourself visible to be noticed by the merit sources, but it gets ugly if he/she puts you on their ignore list meaning whatever meritable content you put out there won't be seen and you can not complain of any foul play as merit-sources have the discretion to send merit(s) to whoever they think is deserving!!
It's a different a user can give merit to whoever he wants, because it's his/hers own merit and they can do whatever they want with it. But a merit-source how should he act? Without feelings or with feelings?
Naturally, this service to the forum should be done without feelings but being humans we are prone to mixed emotions !!!Btw You make this sound like a job of which they need to go through all threads to find all these good posts, which is unrealistic as everyone has a life away from the forum.
I don't trying to blame anyone, or create any drama and I am not disappointed with my low merits, I am quite happy and proud that I already got ten merit and being a member rank, so I am in no rush what so ever to rank up, I actually love the farming and the journey, because when and if I reach Legendary nobody can say I didn't earn it the right way.
Nothing tastes better than the fruit of your hard work, good luck BabyBandit. November 17, 2023, 12:36:57 AM
Since you have drawn the correct conclusion - then you should immediately lock this thread rather than leaving it open any longer.
Absolutely not.
November 16, 2023, 03:39:06 PM
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I totally agree with you here, they should and can and give sMerits to whoever they fell deserve it and I think they all doing a great job.Merit source are a voluntary task – but they have full rights to the source they have and are not prohibited from giving them to whom and in what rank. The main thing expected from a merit system is an increase in the quality of posts - so it is advisable to distribute them to quality posts regardless of who created them.
November 16, 2023, 02:06:29 PM
Well, that's a quite good answer because a merit source should merit the posts that deserve to get merits and he/she should not care about the members who made those posts. Sometimes it's always good to merit the posts of the members who are contributing a lot to the forum because that way they get encouraged and they try their best to contribute even more good stuff to the forum.
A merit source should try his/her best to add only a few annoying members in his/her ignore list because merit distribution starts from the merit sources and if they continue to add as many people in their ignore list as they like then that would not be a good thing for the ones who may deserve to get some merits.
I personally don't add anyone into my ignore list because I believe that if we can avoid someone then we don't really need to add that person into the ignore list, however some people really don't want to see the posts of some particular users and that's the reason they add those users into their ignore list. It's a good practice to send merit to the posts that deserve the merits even if you don't agree with the content because if those posts deserve to get merits then it's good to send those some merits.
A merit source should try his/her best to add only a few annoying members in his/her ignore list because merit distribution starts from the merit sources and if they continue to add as many people in their ignore list as they like then that would not be a good thing for the ones who may deserve to get some merits.
I personally don't add anyone into my ignore list because I believe that if we can avoid someone then we don't really need to add that person into the ignore list, however some people really don't want to see the posts of some particular users and that's the reason they add those users into their ignore list. It's a good practice to send merit to the posts that deserve the merits even if you don't agree with the content because if those posts deserve to get merits then it's good to send those some merits.
Good thinking and good said.
You seems to have thick skin, more should think like you.
Merit source members giving out its merits shouldn't be an emotional thing.
Even though the merit source members are humans and may have members whom they like, don't you think that the user is a quality poster in the first place? that got the attention of a merit source member to like the member? Because when it comes to this platform, the majority of us didn't know each other in the first place before we came here, therefore what could have gotten the attention of the merit source members to merit a member must have been how good the user is or most likely how quality the member's post is.
Even though the merit source members are humans and may have members whom they like, don't you think that the user is a quality poster in the first place? that got the attention of a merit source member to like the member? Because when it comes to this platform, the majority of us didn't know each other in the first place before we came here, therefore what could have gotten the attention of the merit source members to merit a member must have been how good the user is or most likely how quality the member's post is.
Yep it should not.
I don't know really. I saw a very good post about this... But I think all Merit-Sources do a good job here, the most of the people that get merit also should have merit so I don't have anything to complain about.
I can only say thank you to the merit-sources that giving away their free time for this forum, because to be a merit-source I can imagine you need to spend hours of reading post, something I never would do.
So thank you merit-sources!
I think just like a general user can give merit to whoever they want based on their post quality
I totally agree with you here, they should and can and give sMerits to whoever they fell deserve it and I think they all doing a great job.
November 16, 2023, 08:16:50 AM
Hey! I was thinking of something this night, this thing about merits and the merit-sources. If you are a merit-source, should you always give away merit to good posts even if you dislike the user that created the post?
Or are you allowed to be controlled by your feelings and only give away merit to people you like or don't know?
It's a different a user can give merit to whoever he wants, because it's his/hers own merit and they can do whatever they want with it. But a merit-source how should he act? Without feelings or with feelings?
But back to my question, what do you think aboiut merit-sources when they handle out merit? They should give merit to all good posts right, even if a user they dislike made a very good post. Or is it okay to just skip to give that user merit even that he made a very good post?
Merit source members giving out its merits shouldn't be an emotional thing. Or are you allowed to be controlled by your feelings and only give away merit to people you like or don't know?
It's a different a user can give merit to whoever he wants, because it's his/hers own merit and they can do whatever they want with it. But a merit-source how should he act? Without feelings or with feelings?
But back to my question, what do you think aboiut merit-sources when they handle out merit? They should give merit to all good posts right, even if a user they dislike made a very good post. Or is it okay to just skip to give that user merit even that he made a very good post?
Even though the merit source members are humans and may have members whom they like, don't you think that the user is a quality poster in the first place? that got the attention of a merit source member to like the member? Because when it comes to this platform, the majority of us didn't know each other in the first place before we came here, therefore what could have gotten the attention of the merit source members to merit a member must have been how good the user is or most likely how quality the member's post is.
Take you for instance, when I joined this forum I only knew the person who introduced me to the platform, but today I have a lot of people who have merited me and people I have also merited and they don't know me and neither do I know them to talk of meriting my account based on feelings, so Op, this tells that those users that you see get merit from the merit source members Is basically because they are quality poster.
November 16, 2023, 07:55:14 AM
I do not believe that. When I learn something new from someone, my instinct is to do something good for them, If I have merits I will give them if they helped me.
this is a forum we can be disappointed by someone but cannot become an enemy of them.
this is a forum we can be disappointed by someone but cannot become an enemy of them.
How do you know? You've just signed up last month and never send any merit.
Naturally, I can't send merit to the member I ignore, but as part of my duty here, I have ignored only a few extremely annoying people so far. If a message is of good quality, I send merit regardless of who wrote it. Just because I appreciate it doesn't mean that I agree with the content of that message. Merit has no such meaning of approval. Some people use it as like button but this isn't the right way to use merit.
Well, that's a quite good answer because a merit source should merit the posts that deserve to get merits and he/she should not care about the members who made those posts. Sometimes it's always good to merit the posts of the members who are contributing a lot to the forum because that way they get encouraged and they try their best to contribute even more good stuff to the forum.
A merit source should try his/her best to add only a few annoying members in his/her ignore list because merit distribution starts from the merit sources and if they continue to add as many people in their ignore list as they like then that would not be a good thing for the ones who may deserve to get some merits.
I personally don't add anyone into my ignore list because I believe that if we can avoid someone then we don't really need to add that person into the ignore list, however some people really don't want to see the posts of some particular users and that's the reason they add those users into their ignore list. It's a good practice to send merit to the posts that deserve the merits even if you don't agree with the content because if those posts deserve to get merits then it's good to send those some merits.
November 16, 2023, 07:01:03 AM
what do you think aboiut merit-sources when they handle out merit? They should give merit to all good posts right, even if a user they dislike made a very good post. Or is it okay to just skip to give that user merit even that he made a very good post?
I think just like a general user can give merit to whoever they want based on their post quality, a merit source can do the same. But the difference here is that a merit source is definitely one of the knowledgeable people in the forum. They use their merit as opposed to posts that are generally liked. Here they are completely independent. Moreover, naturally, each of us may have our own preferences. One's post quality may not be good for one merit source but it may not be the same for another. So it will depend on that person if he wants to give merit to someone and if he doesn't he can't. I think there is nothing to say about it. 
November 16, 2023, 06:35:36 AM
I'm not a merit source, but I also merit not only what I agree with. If I see some interesting line of thinking I can give a merit even if I see that it is based on a false grounds or is logically wrong. So I can make a post where I totally disagree with some post and despite that to merit a post which I disagree.
This is just about the mindset of the person sending the merits. If it happens to be on a false ground, I have seen some users merit the poster and then cite and correct the person. This feels more like encouraging the work put into sharing your point of view on a topic, as well as correcting someone on a false or incorrect statement they've made.
Maybe there's a need to remind us all that giving a merit should be base on our personal conviction that such post is deserving for one, we can choose to give or not, we are giving only because we all have also earned some smerits, what if we see a post that deserves being merited and we have no merit to give, our own reply as well goes along with what we see from a post, if you can make this judgement from your own self.
It's your personal right to do so while another person may not see the same thing you noticed, just as the same way you will also discover a post being merited which you never expected, but anyone that knows how hard it is to earn merits will know how to judiciously use his smerits without anyone telling him what or how to do it.
November 16, 2023, 01:15:31 AM
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Hey! I was thinking of something this night, this thing about merits and the merit-sources. If you are a merit-source, should you always give away merit to good posts even if you dislike the user that created the post?
ive wound up meriting posts from users in my ignore list. as sometimes ill see an ignored users post quoted by someone else and if its interesting ill go unhide it and merit it.
so yes people i dislike and even ignore get merited on occasion. but i wont go out of my way to find them.
And as for the quote you replied to, no matter how good and constructive you are, if you are not in line with the views and ideas of most people, they will never merit you. This is very bad since merit sources are not perfect beings, the posts they refused to merit might be the one carrying the rightest information and value.
Good point and on point.
Many people here are 100% controlled by their feelings, regarding merit or not merit, just look the
But regarding the Merit-Sources, I think they doing a great job. it's many hours to kill to be able to giving away merit, so respect to them for doing it, and to be honest during my short time here I haven't seen anyone abuse his "merit-power". So this works pretty good.
- Regards BabyB. 👼
October 22, 2023, 05:28:22 PM
I'm not a merit source, but I also merit not only what I agree with. If I see some interesting line of thinking I can give a merit even if I see that it is based on a false grounds or is logically wrong. So I can make a post where I totally disagree with some post and despite that to merit a post which I disagree.
This is just about the mindset of the person sending the merits. If it happens to be on a false ground, I have seen some users merit the poster and then cite and correct the person. This feels more like encouraging the work put into sharing your point of view on a topic, as well as correcting someone on a false or incorrect statement they've made.
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October 22, 2023, 11:10:14 AM
Yes, that's right, every writing definitely has value, even if we don't agree with the writing, but if the writing has good thought value then we can reward it. I once gave merit to an account that had negative trust. In my opinion, the merit system in this forum has many functions, it can be a reward for the quality of posts, performance appreciation, assistance in ranking, friendship, or giving merit to posts that are sometimes very funny.
But sometimes I'm sad when I see good quality post but I don't have any merit to give
But sometimes I'm sad when I see good quality post but I don't have any merit to give
Some comments or topics have value, but not really all of them. Although I am not disputing the fact that there are usually some quality comments that do not receive merit, there are equally some low-value topics that I myself would not merit, despite the fact that I am not a merit source. There are so many off-topic comments, just as there are also many shitposts. Saying that all post has value is something I can't absolutely agree with.
There are times when I make just a simple general comment, and I might not really expect any merit on that particular comment, but it can just end up getting merit. But sometimes I put effort into some comments and don't get any merit on the post. So, in essence, merit sources and non-merit sources have their own different patterns of awarding merit. They can decide to just give 1 merit each to the first 10 people that comment on the first page, or they can decide to give more than 1 merit to the person they feel made the best comment, and then they can just give one each to others to encourage them. So, it's just different with how any member here gives out merit.
October 22, 2023, 10:01:51 AM
I do not believe that. When I learn something new from someone, my instinct is to do something good for them, If I have merits I will give them if they helped me.
this is a forum we can be disappointed by someone but cannot become an enemy of them.
this is a forum we can be disappointed by someone but cannot become an enemy of them.
How do you know? You've just signed up last month and never send any merit.
Naturally, I can't send merit to the member I ignore, but as part of my duty here, I have ignored only a few extremely annoying people so far. If a message is of good quality, I send merit regardless of who wrote it. Just because I appreciate it doesn't mean that I agree with the content of that message. Merit has no such meaning of approval. Some people use it as like button but this isn't the right way to use merit.
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