should women be blamed for wearing daring dress thus reason they were raped - page 12.

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Quote from: mOgliE on January 27, 2016, 10:27:28 AM

Quote from: xdrpx on January 27, 2016, 10:13:48 AM

Women can't be blamed for their dress, if a man went out with a daring dress I don't really see women go and rape a man for it. I think if women are blamed for the type of dress they wear it's the worst thing I've heard.

Hmm... Women raping men is much more common than you seem to think. It's a real thing, around 25% of rapes are done by women. It's not because all the associations are made by women to protect women that the problem is only concerning them.

But these need not necessarily be because of men wearing daring clothes. Also, 25% of rapes being done by women is still very very less compared to the opposite. But equal rights and protection for both genders rights are necessary.

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Quote from: electronicash on January 27, 2016, 01:50:28 AM

Had a discussion with friends over this while we drink inside a bar.
so should women be blamed for wearing daring dress like showing their belly button and cleavage why they got raped?

No. The same logic: Because you see a beautiful car you steal it?

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If we start to think like this, soon someone may suggest that western women should dress as Muslim woman in Afghanistan for example, covering completely their bodies.
After that someone can suggest that maybe women is more safe if stay at home and don't go out for work or anything.
Such suggestion is really very dangerous and is direct attack on women's rights, freedom etc.
Only man should be blamed for rape.

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Quote from: Elwar on January 27, 2016, 10:23:12 AM

Quote from: onlinedragon on January 27, 2016, 10:19:45 AM

Come on I don't know what country the OP is and what is his religion. In Europe we don't think that way when a girl say no it's no the clothes someone wear don't give anyone a reason to rape a girl. Sad that people think this workout this way.

Yep, in Europe if you're a woman near a train station stairwell you should expect to be raped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8tLt6bhqUw

No. The video was taken in Cairos. It's an intox, this video is from 2013, nothing to see with German news.

Don't get me wrong though. What happened in Germany lately was probably very similar to this. But please don't spread intox, truth is terrifying enough.

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Quote from: xdrpx on January 27, 2016, 10:13:48 AM

Women can't be blamed for their dress, if a man went out with a daring dress I don't really see women go and rape a man for it. I think if women are blamed for the type of dress they wear it's the worst thing I've heard.

Hmm... Women raping men is much more common than you seem to think. It's a real thing, around 25% of rapes are done by women. It's not because all the associations are made by women to protect women that the problem is only concerning them.

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Quote from: onlinedragon on January 27, 2016, 10:19:45 AM

Come on I don't know what country the OP is and what is his religion. In Europe we don't think that way when a girl say no it's no the clothes someone wear don't give anyone a reason to rape a girl. Sad that people think this workout this way.

Yep, in Europe if you're a woman near a train station stairwell you should expect to be raped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8tLt6bhqUw

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Come on I don't know what country the OP is and what is his religion. In Europe we don't think that way when a girl say no it's no the clothes someone wear don't give anyone a reason to rape a girl. Sad that people think this workout this way.

What now if a gay Like Your ass do it give him a reason to rape you. Don't think this should be a standard that people just can rape who they want.

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Women can't be blamed for their dress, if a man went out with a daring dress I don't really see women go and rape a man for it. I think if women are blamed for the type of dress they wear it's the worst thing I've heard.

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Quote from: iv4n on January 27, 2016, 09:45:41 AM

Quote from: Lauda on January 27, 2016, 08:12:33 AM

Quote from: Avirunes on January 27, 2016, 08:05:13 AM

I agree up with your word.

Actually i am from India, the same question was raised in front of some party MLA(Members of Legislative Assembly) and they were like "women is to blame,why them wear such clothes to lure men" and i was shocked to hear that .

Well people have different opinions and thats why there is so more collisions and at last destruction of peace.

People tend to have very wrong opinions due to idiocy or mental problems that have not been diagnosed (e.g. people thing they're doing the right thing, when it's obviously wrong). Basically the opposing party is telling me that my wife can't be elegant or sexy because some men might attack her? What nonsense. Should we make them wear winter suits? What about the summer, when everyone is basically partially naked due to the extreme heat?

Quote from: iv4n on January 27, 2016, 08:06:03 AM

I don't think woman's shouldn't be balmed for something like this.
Does parking your beautiful car in front of your house tempt thieves to steal it?
-snip-

You're comparing incomparable things (objects to human beings; aka. Faulty comparison fallacy).

Why people do this kind of things? I compared feelings that this actions awake in people's minds. Is that make them exited? Maybe they like to feel powerful?
That is comparable I believe.

I go everywhere, see people pull cash and credit cards out of their pockets. They buy nice things! So I just take their cash and their cards. It's THEIR FAULT! They show me things I want!

Mullah say I good and they bad.

ROFL....

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Quote from: Lauda on January 27, 2016, 08:12:33 AM

Quote from: Avirunes on January 27, 2016, 08:05:13 AM

I agree up with your word.

Actually i am from India, the same question was raised in front of some party MLA(Members of Legislative Assembly) and they were like "women is to blame,why them wear such clothes to lure men" and i was shocked to hear that .

Well people have different opinions and thats why there is so more collisions and at last destruction of peace.

People tend to have very wrong opinions due to idiocy or mental problems that have not been diagnosed (e.g. people thing they're doing the right thing, when it's obviously wrong). Basically the opposing party is telling me that my wife can't be elegant or sexy because some men might attack her? What nonsense. Should we make them wear winter suits? What about the summer, when everyone is basically partially naked due to the extreme heat?

Quote from: iv4n on January 27, 2016, 08:06:03 AM

I don't think woman's shouldn't be balmed for something like this.
Does parking your beautiful car in front of your house tempt thieves to steal it?
-snip-

You're comparing incomparable things (objects to human beings; aka. Faulty comparison fallacy).

Why people do this kind of things? I compared feelings that this actions awake in people's minds. Is that make them exited? Maybe they like to feel powerful?
That is comparable I believe.

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It's their own fault for having vaginas.

If a woman has a vagina, it is too tempting for a man top put his penis in it.

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Quote from: Avirunes on January 27, 2016, 08:05:13 AM

I agree up with your word.

Actually i am from India, the same question was raised in front of some party MLA(Members of Legislative Assembly) and they were like "women is to blame,why them wear such clothes to lure men" and i was shocked to hear that .

Well people have different opinions and thats why there is so more collisions and at last destruction of peace.

People tend to have very wrong opinions due to idiocy or mental problems that have not been diagnosed (e.g. people thing they're doing the right thing, when it's obviously wrong). Basically the opposing party is telling me that my wife can't be elegant or sexy because some men might attack her? What nonsense. Should we make them wear winter suits? What about the summer, when everyone is basically partially naked due to the extreme heat?

Quote from: iv4n on January 27, 2016, 08:06:03 AM

I don't think woman's shouldn't be balmed for something like this.
Does parking your beautiful car in front of your house tempt thieves to steal it?
-snip-

You're comparing incomparable things (objects to human beings; aka. Faulty comparison fallacy).

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I don't think woman's shouldn't be balmed for something like this.
Does parking your beautiful car in front of your house tempt thieves to steal it?
Does carrying your purse outside your house tempt thieves to steal it?
Does having nice paintings visible from the outside tempt thieves to steal it?
Does being an asshole tempt someone to kill you?
Does it tempt a driver to see someone cross the street while not on a crossing to keep driving and drive over that person?
In the end world is full with temptation and frustration, when will someone snap no one knows. But that is "normal" in this kind of system where u have so much evil things.

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Quote from: Lauda on January 27, 2016, 03:14:29 AM

This is nothing but sexist. Why should women change their dressing habits because men can't control themselves? Such men need to be sent to hospitals, that is the solution. However, I'd still argue that some women go over a certain limit when it comes to 'daring dresses'.

Quote from: bitcoinboy12 on January 27, 2016, 02:23:28 AM

But there's not much thinking nowadays so why should the men give it a deeper thought especially if alcohol is already involved.

A healthy mind does not do something like this, regardless of alcohol or not.

I agree up with your word.

Actually i am from India, the same question was raised in front of some party MLA(Members of Legislative Assembly) and they were like "women is to blame,why them wear such clothes to lure men" and i was shocked to hear that .

Well people have different opinions and thats why there is so more collisions and at last destruction of peace.

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Quote from: Tyrantt on January 27, 2016, 07:23:30 AM

Quote from: mOgliE on January 27, 2016, 04:01:16 AM

Not such a bad question.

I'd say a woman wearing daring dress knows the effect it will have on men. It was invented for that sole purpose.
So such woman shouldn't blame later any man having a daring behavior.

The limit being, again, set by the law. You shouldn't be blamed for looking at such a woman and even daring asking her out. She doesn't like it? Well that's her problem. She says men are pigs? Well she shouldn't dress like a sow. (ever seen how much more insulting "sow" sounds? i mean feminists always yell everywhere that men are pigs but try calling a woman a sow you gonna see what you gonna see xD).

But again, any physical contact or insult are a crime in the eye of the law. So as you're question concerns rape, well the answer is rather obvious. She could be naked that wouldn't make any difference

"your liberty stops where the one of others begin". You don't touch her liberty by looking or whistling, at least not more that she's doing by her look. But that's all you have the right to do to a stranger without its consent. Anything more is, and should always be, forbidden and punished.

I thought we evolved and lived in some cultured world... not primitive jungle. But by this, we can beat the shit out of every muslim who wears that robe just because we don't like that and him dressing like that should know the consequences of wearing something like that. Do you realise how stupid that sounds?

Did you actually read me?
No, by this you have every right to look with desaprobation a Muslim but not to touch him or insult him!
What I said was, quoting myself: " You don't touch her liberty by looking or whistling, at least not more that she's doing by her look. But that's all you have the right to do to a stranger without its consent. Anything more is, and should always be, forbidden and punished."

Do you realize how different it is from what you're accusing me?

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Yeah and then there are 10 threads about raping muslims.

And then the same people saying woman are at fault for being raped. There you see how nuts sometimes our society is.

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Absolutely not. However it's a legal team's job to pick as many holes as possible and it's sad fact that plenty of males will take it as some type of green light and they award culpability on that basis. It's totally wrong but it's an idea that has yet to fade away.

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Quote from: adibe on January 27, 2016, 04:21:29 AM

Quote from: electronicash on January 27, 2016, 01:50:28 AM

Had a discussion with friends over this while we drink inside a bar.
so should women be blamed for wearing daring dress like showing their belly button and cleavage why they got raped?

I have two answer for this. The first one is yes women should be blamed for wearing sexy and cleavage, so that make man want rape her. the second is man fault, i mean from early the man is pervert, too much watching porn. even women not wearing sexy dress, he will rape her.

"so that make man want rape her." yes I've raped every girl I saw that had cleavage or dressed sexy or smthing like that. Are you people insane? What are we? Primates? Haven't we evolved? What's wrong with you?

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Quote from: electronicash on January 27, 2016, 01:50:28 AM

Had a discussion with friends over this while we drink inside a bar.
so should women be blamed for wearing daring dress like showing their belly button and cleavage why they got raped?

not sure about this question. i think female should be blamed, but male is also at fault. women want attention and want to be admired for
her qualities, but sometimes they wearing very little thus the guys getting tempted for doing things. for guys, males are just horny sometime they cant
keep it in theyre pants.

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Quote from: mOgliE on January 27, 2016, 04:01:16 AM

Not such a bad question.

I'd say a woman wearing daring dress knows the effect it will have on men. It was invented for that sole purpose.
So such woman shouldn't blame later any man having a daring behavior.

The limit being, again, set by the law. You shouldn't be blamed for looking at such a woman and even daring asking her out. She doesn't like it? Well that's her problem. She says men are pigs? Well she shouldn't dress like a sow. (ever seen how much more insulting "sow" sounds? i mean feminists always yell everywhere that men are pigs but try calling a woman a sow you gonna see what you gonna see xD).

But again, any physical contact or insult are a crime in the eye of the law. So as you're question concerns rape, well the answer is rather obvious. She could be naked that wouldn't make any difference

"your liberty stops where the one of others begin". You don't touch her liberty by looking or whistling, at least not more that she's doing by her look. But that's all you have the right to do to a stranger without its consent. Anything more is, and should always be, forbidden and punished.

I thought we evolved and lived in some cultured world... not primitive jungle. But by this, we can beat the shit out of every muslim who wears that robe just because we don't like that and him dressing like that should know the consequences of wearing something like that. Do you realise how stupid that sounds?

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