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legendary
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I got my phone stolen back in may, and as a result a lot of my crypto casino accounts were compromised.. but I was able to get a lot of accounts back on different sites… but not shuffle, shuffle sided with the hacker as they set up 2fa and I haven’t been able to log in. I tried emailing them off my email I signed up with, several times now asking me questions I wouldn’t know how to answer unless I logged in to my account which the answers I provided weren’t good enough. I asked them if I could send them my Id to match my name and address I provided on the site and they said they couldn’t help me. I’ve tried multiple times to get my account back and over the course of this time, the hackers been using my account. The last time I tried they just all out suspended my account like really? With stake I was easily able to get my account back by sending them a selfie with ID and IP address of my last official login, shuffle on the other hand seemingly purposely sided with the hacker and let them use my account for months and didn’t want to help me at all. I lost a lot of money over this so thank you shuffle really there for your players. I’m telling everyone I can about this because it’s bs.
I don't know if this is a made-up story? It sounds like nonsense... especially when no evidence is shown.

You lost your mobile means you are responsible, don't blame the casino.
And was your shuffle account KYC before the mobile was stolen? If not then the casino can't do it for fear that you will be considered a fraudster.

This is the first time I've seen a case that is different from the others. Grin
I hate cases like this because it's very hard for casinos to solve them and people often mistreat casinos. There are many people who try to cheat casinos and then sue them, there are many machinators in this world.

C0vid19shuffle, they sent you questions and you should be able to answer them without logging in to your account. They usually ask you what happened recently, what slot you played, and what bet you made. If you don't remember anything, I'm sorry but you have to understand that it's hard for them too to trust you easily. Btw it's strange that they didn't let you send them your ID screenshot with a verified address. Btw in cases like that, you should immediately visit Bitcointalk and open a scam accusation thread. There are so many complaints in casinos that their staff is sometimes tired from everything but when you open a thread here with valid claims, they usually take it more seriously and the problem gets solved soon.

This person never came back to the forum after he created an account and made that post, nor [obviously] followed my suggestion to raise his thread, complete with supporting evidence.

I've been more than ready to bring this to my contact's attention. In fact, I've actually brushed it lightly, informing my contact that there is another case that they might have to address, but I'll need it to be verified first. With his silence though... I think the case "resolved" itself.

If he's not cooperative even if your willingness to help to solve his claims then that means there's really something suspicious regarding on what he says. Now its time for him to verify all what he say then show that he really got compromised since for sure that he will be taken care if he provide those necessary things needed to do. If he continue to be evasive and just continue to post nonsense word here then I guess he just want to troll this community and want people to think Shuffle is a bad casino.

But for sure people could verify that and those accuser without having anything to support their claims will always fail on their attacks.

There was a period during 2016 to 2018 when many of the crypto casinos were very new, they had low reputation and their admins were anonymous. A random "newbie/brand new" user could open a topic in BitcoinTalk and make an accusation, and because many users in the forum post/bump the topic, it would make the accusations sort of believable because the topic sort of had some acknowledgement in the forum.

 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Today, it's simply harder to do.
legendary
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If you've been following my posts, I want to write one thing. The site paid me. No claims. The only thing that on the rate a little lost. Withdrew 2200$ and now at the rate it turned out 1500$. Thank you all.

I believe you are not new with crypto and its volatility and it may happen at anytime so you should be ready for it and you should also be ready that such withdrawal delay may happen.
What I can say is that you were unlucky because you loss some due to price drop of the coin you use but if you are lucky, a delay may also give you additional profit when the price is increased a lot once you get the money after a bit delay.
If you are not ready for price movement of the coin, better if you use stable coin so your winning value will remain the same although there is a delay on your withdrawal.
Of course we all as players do not want to experience a bit delayed withdrawal but any casino may do verification or double check of our withdrawal request when the casino think that they need to do it for a reason.
sr. member
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I got my phone stolen back in may, and as a result a lot of my crypto casino accounts were compromised.. but I was able to get a lot of accounts back on different sites… but not shuffle, shuffle sided with the hacker as they set up 2fa and I haven’t been able to log in. I tried emailing them off my email I signed up with, several times now asking me questions I wouldn’t know how to answer unless I logged in to my account which the answers I provided weren’t good enough. I asked them if I could send them my Id to match my name and address I provided on the site and they said they couldn’t help me. I’ve tried multiple times to get my account back and over the course of this time, the hackers been using my account. The last time I tried they just all out suspended my account like really? With stake I was easily able to get my account back by sending them a selfie with ID and IP address of my last official login, shuffle on the other hand seemingly purposely sided with the hacker and let them use my account for months and didn’t want to help me at all. I lost a lot of money over this so thank you shuffle really there for your players. I’m telling everyone I can about this because it’s bs.
I don't know if this is a made-up story? It sounds like nonsense... especially when no evidence is shown.

You lost your mobile means you are responsible, don't blame the casino.
And was your shuffle account KYC before the mobile was stolen? If not then the casino can't do it for fear that you will be considered a fraudster.

This is the first time I've seen a case that is different from the others. Grin
I hate cases like this because it's very hard for casinos to solve them and people often mistreat casinos. There are many people who try to cheat casinos and then sue them, there are many machinators in this world.

C0vid19shuffle, they sent you questions and you should be able to answer them without logging in to your account. They usually ask you what happened recently, what slot you played, and what bet you made. If you don't remember anything, I'm sorry but you have to understand that it's hard for them too to trust you easily. Btw it's strange that they didn't let you send them your ID screenshot with a verified address. Btw in cases like that, you should immediately visit Bitcointalk and open a scam accusation thread. There are so many complaints in casinos that their staff is sometimes tired from everything but when you open a thread here with valid claims, they usually take it more seriously and the problem gets solved soon.

This person never came back to the forum after he created an account and made that post, nor [obviously] followed my suggestion to raise his thread, complete with supporting evidence.

I've been more than ready to bring this to my contact's attention. In fact, I've actually brushed it lightly, informing my contact that there is another case that they might have to address, but I'll need it to be verified first. With his silence though... I think the case "resolved" itself.

If he's not cooperative even if your willingness to help to solve his claims then that means there's really something suspicious regarding on what he says. Now its time for him to verify all what he say then show that he really got compromised since for sure that he will be taken care if he provide those necessary things needed to do. If he continue to be evasive and just continue to post nonsense word here then I guess he just want to troll this community and want people to think Shuffle is a bad casino.

But for sure people could verify that and those accuser without having anything to support their claims will always fail on their attacks.
legendary
Activity: 2730
Merit: 1560
Yes, I'm an asshole
I got my phone stolen back in may, and as a result a lot of my crypto casino accounts were compromised.. but I was able to get a lot of accounts back on different sites… but not shuffle, shuffle sided with the hacker as they set up 2fa and I haven’t been able to log in. I tried emailing them off my email I signed up with, several times now asking me questions I wouldn’t know how to answer unless I logged in to my account which the answers I provided weren’t good enough. I asked them if I could send them my Id to match my name and address I provided on the site and they said they couldn’t help me. I’ve tried multiple times to get my account back and over the course of this time, the hackers been using my account. The last time I tried they just all out suspended my account like really? With stake I was easily able to get my account back by sending them a selfie with ID and IP address of my last official login, shuffle on the other hand seemingly purposely sided with the hacker and let them use my account for months and didn’t want to help me at all. I lost a lot of money over this so thank you shuffle really there for your players. I’m telling everyone I can about this because it’s bs.
I don't know if this is a made-up story? It sounds like nonsense... especially when no evidence is shown.

You lost your mobile means you are responsible, don't blame the casino.
And was your shuffle account KYC before the mobile was stolen? If not then the casino can't do it for fear that you will be considered a fraudster.

This is the first time I've seen a case that is different from the others. Grin
I hate cases like this because it's very hard for casinos to solve them and people often mistreat casinos. There are many people who try to cheat casinos and then sue them, there are many machinators in this world.

C0vid19shuffle, they sent you questions and you should be able to answer them without logging in to your account. They usually ask you what happened recently, what slot you played, and what bet you made. If you don't remember anything, I'm sorry but you have to understand that it's hard for them too to trust you easily. Btw it's strange that they didn't let you send them your ID screenshot with a verified address. Btw in cases like that, you should immediately visit Bitcointalk and open a scam accusation thread. There are so many complaints in casinos that their staff is sometimes tired from everything but when you open a thread here with valid claims, they usually take it more seriously and the problem gets solved soon.

This person never came back to the forum after he created an account and made that post, nor [obviously] followed my suggestion to raise his thread, complete with supporting evidence.

I've been more than ready to bring this to my contact's attention. In fact, I've actually brushed it lightly, informing my contact that there is another case that they might have to address, but I'll need it to be verified first. With his silence though... I think the case "resolved" itself.
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1823

It's a cycle that's in fact very noticeable in Bitcoin and crypto. If a service starts becoming more popular in BitcoinTalk, the scam accusations start to come one after another made by "brand new accounts and newbies". It's becoming very obvious that there's some probability that either it's the same person behind those accounts, or it's a group people who know each other and who are working together.


Sometimes people can complain about services, platforms that don't have announcement threads in Bitcoin forum, but mostly they complain about platforms with announcement threads and representatives here.

Anyway they need to know that Bitcoin forum is not their main places for complaints. They must complain it mainly on that platform, like in chat box with customer support staffs, or with support tickets in email, or social media of that platform.

Most of complaints from newbies are invalid.


If most complaints are invalid, then they probably did something that they know that the casino will catch them for sooner or later? 🤔

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It's an illustration of a Sybil Attack. Add them to your ignore list.


It's invalid accusation attack, not Sybil attack. I know you want to use "Sybil attack" in purpose but it can be misleading, let "invalid accusation attack" as it is.


If an entity or a group of people work together and pretend that they are many different people, then it's a Sybil Attack. Although sure, there should probably a scale/size that decides when it actually becomes an actual Sybil Attack, but the point is the same.

BitcoinTalk might also be under a threat of this sort of attack for nefarious entities to control the narrative and the flow of ideas.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
hero member
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I got my phone stolen back in may, and as a result a lot of my crypto casino accounts were compromised.. but I was able to get a lot of accounts back on different sites… but not shuffle, shuffle sided with the hacker as they set up 2fa and I haven’t been able to log in. I tried emailing them off my email I signed up with, several times now asking me questions I wouldn’t know how to answer unless I logged in to my account which the answers I provided weren’t good enough. I asked them if I could send them my Id to match my name and address I provided on the site and they said they couldn’t help me. I’ve tried multiple times to get my account back and over the course of this time, the hackers been using my account. The last time I tried they just all out suspended my account like really? With stake I was easily able to get my account back by sending them a selfie with ID and IP address of my last official login, shuffle on the other hand seemingly purposely sided with the hacker and let them use my account for months and didn’t want to help me at all. I lost a lot of money over this so thank you shuffle really there for your players. I’m telling everyone I can about this because it’s bs.
I don't know if this is a made-up story? It sounds like nonsense... especially when no evidence is shown.

You lost your mobile means you are responsible, don't blame the casino.
And was your shuffle account KYC before the mobile was stolen? If not then the casino can't do it for fear that you will be considered a fraudster.

This is the first time I've seen a case that is different from the others. Grin
I hate cases like this because it's very hard for casinos to solve them and people often mistreat casinos. There are many people who try to cheat casinos and then sue them, there are many machinators in this world.

C0vid19shuffle, they sent you questions and you should be able to answer them without logging in to your account. They usually ask you what happened recently, what slot you played, and what bet you made. If you don't remember anything, I'm sorry but you have to understand that it's hard for them too to trust you easily. Btw it's strange that they didn't let you send them your ID screenshot with a verified address. Btw in cases like that, you should immediately visit Bitcointalk and open a scam accusation thread. There are so many complaints in casinos that their staff is sometimes tired from everything but when you open a thread here with valid claims, they usually take it more seriously and the problem gets solved soon.
hero member
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
I got my phone stolen back in may, and as a result a lot of my crypto casino accounts were compromised.. but I was able to get a lot of accounts back on different sites… but not shuffle, shuffle sided with the hacker as they set up 2fa and I haven’t been able to log in. I tried emailing them off my email I signed up with, several times now asking me questions I wouldn’t know how to answer unless I logged in to my account which the answers I provided weren’t good enough. I asked them if I could send them my Id to match my name and address I provided on the site and they said they couldn’t help me. I’ve tried multiple times to get my account back and over the course of this time, the hackers been using my account. The last time I tried they just all out suspended my account like really? With stake I was easily able to get my account back by sending them a selfie with ID and IP address of my last official login, shuffle on the other hand seemingly purposely sided with the hacker and let them use my account for months and didn’t want to help me at all. I lost a lot of money over this so thank you shuffle really there for your players. I’m telling everyone I can about this because it’s bs.
I don't know if this is a made-up story? It sounds like nonsense... especially when no evidence is shown.

You lost your mobile means you are responsible, don't blame the casino.
And was your shuffle account KYC before the mobile was stolen? If not then the casino can't do it for fear that you will be considered a fraudster.

This is the first time I've seen a case that is different from the others. Grin
Perhaps you're being too harsh and quick to call his shared story a nonsense without you having much to prove it so either. And about losing phones, I think it' something common and no one is above it, and that shouldn't mean that one can't have access to his account anymore by having to use another phone provided they made considerable requirements available while they try to access the account.

We're talking about money here and what I had expected you to maybe asked from him before making conclusions would have been for him to make available screenshots of the replies and messages he claimed to have had with the casino just to substantiate his claims. At least everyone should be given equal and fair hearing before execution. Right?
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What's up with all the rising scam accusations by newbies on this thread recently? Only one seemed legitimate while the rest seemed fake to me, but the timing doesn't seem like a coincidence at all.

Anyway, whether legitimate or fake, focus on the site customer support or the scam accusation section of this forum instead of focusing on this thread people.


It's a cycle that's in fact very noticeable in Bitcoin and crypto. If a service starts becoming more popular in BitcoinTalk, the scam accusations start to come one after another made by "brand new accounts and newbies". It's becoming very obvious that there's some probability that either it's the same person behind those accounts, or it's a group people who know each other and who are working together.

It's an illustration of a Sybil Attack. Add them to your ignore list.

Kind of unfair don’t you think? I only made an account on this forum because people told me this is where I could go to get help with my issue…. Obviously I’m going to be a newbie…
sr. member
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legendary
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Yes, I'm an asshole
If you've been following my posts, I want to write one thing. The site paid me. No claims. The only thing that on the rate a little lost. Withdrew 2200$ and now at the rate it turned out 1500$. Thank you all.

I'm glad that it got resolved in a positive note. As I previously stated, it's just a routine check following a big win, which they'll most likely will release [evidently] if they found nothing fraudulent being involved.

I am sure the rest of the dwellers of this thread will welcome you very warmly and with open hand if you have further topic to discuss about their features and games and promo.

If you experienced other issue in the future, though, that seemingly more fitted if it's posted on the scam accusations board, please do... I insist. Writing it here will make your post OOT, not to mention that people overseeing your situation will find it hard to follow as the development were riddled by excitement about the platform's feature and other platform-related discussion.

Scam accusations, I'll be there.
newbie
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If you've been following my posts, I want to write one thing. The site paid me. No claims. The only thing that on the rate a little lost. Withdrew 2200$ and now at the rate it turned out 1500$. Thank you all.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Out of interest how many of people in here have stacked their SHFL for the lottery?

There are >70M of tokens total stacked for lottery and it's growing, but it could still take a lot of time for jackpot to hit.
So i am starting to see the point of it. If it grows to 100M or something like that, more people want their ticket just to have their changes to participate.

But i am still unconviced how this would be in any way more organic way to price growth, then using same money for buyback and burn. It's literally same money, now used for incentive for speculative growth.

Difference is that now we are trusting that people create "scarcity" by leaving it out from circulation, ignoring that they might dump their tokens immediately after first big jackpot. Other way was using that money to grow scarcity slowly, and immutable way.
hero member
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It's a cycle that's in fact very noticeable in Bitcoin and crypto. If a service starts becoming more popular in BitcoinTalk, the scam accusations start to come one after another made by "brand new accounts and newbies". It's becoming very obvious that there's some probability that either it's the same person behind those accounts, or it's a group people who know each other and who are working together.
Sometimes people can complain about services, platforms that don't have announcement threads in Bitcoin forum, but mostly they complain about platforms with announcement threads and representatives here.

Anyway they need to know that Bitcoin forum is not their main places for complaints. They must complain it mainly on that platform, like in chat box with customer support staffs, or with support tickets in email, or social media of that platform.

Most of complaints from newbies are invalid.

Quote
It's an illustration of a Sybil Attack. Add them to your ignore list.
It's invalid accusation attack, not Sybil attack. I know you want to use "Sybil attack" in purpose but it can be misleading, let "invalid accusation attack" as it is.
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1823
What's up with all the rising scam accusations by newbies on this thread recently? Only one seemed legitimate while the rest seemed fake to me, but the timing doesn't seem like a coincidence at all.

Anyway, whether legitimate or fake, focus on the site customer support or the scam accusation section of this forum instead of focusing on this thread people.


It's a cycle that's in fact very noticeable in Bitcoin and crypto. If a service starts becoming more popular in BitcoinTalk, the scam accusations start to come one after another made by "brand new accounts and newbies". It's becoming very obvious that there's some probability that either it's the same person behind those accounts, or it's a group people who know each other and who are working together.

It's an illustration of a Sybil Attack. Add them to your ignore list.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
What's up with all the rising scam accusations by newbies on this thread recently? Only one seemed legitimate while the rest seemed fake to me, but the timing doesn't seem like a coincidence at all.

Anyway, whether legitimate or fake, focus on the site customer support or the scam accusation section of this forum instead of focusing on this thread people.
Lol, best thing to do is to pay no attention to any scam accusation against shuffle being posted on this thread, any user who has a legitimate case with the casino (I believe) should know the right board to post such case.

When newbies all swam on this thread with scam accusation, most especially in the same period, I see it as nothing but spam, and maybe also there is a campaign somewhere against shuffle, some one possibly have experienced a bad loss, and is out to get back at shuffle, with as many accounts as possible.

So just ignore them all, and only take accusations posted in the right board serious, so far the accuser provide all the necessary evidence/proofs.
legendary
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Yes, I'm an asshole
What's up with all the rising scam accusations by newbies on this thread recently? Only one seemed legitimate while the rest seemed fake to me, but the timing doesn't seem like a coincidence at all.

Anyway, whether legitimate or fake, focus on the site customer support or the scam accusation section of this forum instead of focusing on this thread people.

I actually only found two that's added as new entries in my list, that share the same theme [airdrop situation] and I am currently inquiring more info from my contact, I think it can be easily sorted out after I understand the mechanism better, I have a strong feeling that it's just a small misunderstanding.

So, two... with exception the other two on this thread raised by pavelmarty [which currently being handled] and C0vid19shuffle that's yet to be substantiated so I am not escalating it to my contact on Shuffle yet.

Is there other cases that I missed? It'll be very much appreciated if you can point me out to those situation so I can perhaps lend my hand to get them resolved too.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
What's up with all the rising scam accusations by newbies on this thread recently? Only one seemed legitimate while the rest seemed fake to me, but the timing doesn't seem like a coincidence at all.

Anyway, whether legitimate or fake, focus on the site customer support or the scam accusation section of this forum instead of focusing on this thread people.

There is no way to stop anyone not to posting any scam accusations here if they feel like it. However, if most of the scam accusations are false, these will eventually fade away and will have no bad impact on the gambling site. Only the true scam accusation can be a problem for the site.

And about the fact that a lot of newbies coming up with lots of false scam accusations on the thread may be a bad attempt by any competitor  Shocked
hero member
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What's up with all the rising scam accusations by newbies on this thread recently? Only one seemed legitimate while the rest seemed fake to me, but the timing doesn't seem like a coincidence at all.

Anyway, whether legitimate or fake, focus on the site customer support or the scam accusation section of this forum instead of focusing on this thread people.
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1823
I got my phone stolen back in may, and as a result a lot of my crypto casino accounts were compromised.. but I was able to get a lot of accounts back on different sites… but not shuffle, shuffle sided with the hacker as they set up 2fa and I haven’t been able to log in. I tried emailing them off my email I signed up with, several times now asking me questions I wouldn’t know how to answer unless I logged in to my account which the answers I provided weren’t good enough. I asked them if I could send them my Id to match my name and address I provided on the site and they said they couldn’t help me. I’ve tried multiple times to get my account back and over the course of this time, the hackers been using my account. The last time I tried they just all out suspended my account like really? With stake I was easily able to get my account back by sending them a selfie with ID and IP address of my last official login, shuffle on the other hand seemingly purposely sided with the hacker and let them use my account for months and didn’t want to help me at all. I lost a lot of money over this so thank you shuffle really there for your players. I’m telling everyone I can about this because it’s bs.
I don't know if this is a made-up story? It sounds like nonsense... especially when no evidence is shown.

You lost your mobile means you are responsible, don't blame the casino.
And was your shuffle account KYC before the mobile was stolen? If not then the casino can't do it for fear that you will be considered a fraudster.

This is the first time I've seen a case that is different from the others. Grin
Regardless of what the story is about, as long as he covid19shuffle could convey a possible reality story it means this should be given a special attention, because I'm the case of account hack at least when an individual complain through the registered email it should be given close attention of genuine possibilities, and at that the team can go further to ask for more verification is possible ask the customer to provide the selfie with the document used for verifying the account to prove it authentication.

He sold the account. I know the person he sold it to and he tried to get it back the day the token launched which locked the account.


How do you know that person? Do you know him personally, in real life?

Plus what's this you're telling us that "he sold" the account? For what purpose does a person sell his account which has already gone through KYC verification? Is the something illegal being done with the account? Moving money from nefarious sources through the casino to launder it for a percentage of the money perhaps?

  🤔
sr. member
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I don't know if this is a made-up story? It sounds like nonsense... especially when no evidence is shown.

You lost your mobile means you are responsible, don't blame the casino.
And was your shuffle account KYC before the mobile was stolen? If not then the casino can't do it for fear that you will be considered a fraudster.

This is the first time I've seen a case that is different from the others. Grin
Regardless of what the story is about, as long as he covid19shuffle could convey a possible reality story it means this should be given a special attention, because I'm the case of account hack at least when an individual complain through the registered email it should be given close attention of genuine possibilities, and at that the team can go further to ask for more verification is possible ask the customer to provide the selfie with the document used for verifying the account to prove it authentication.
It's hard to believe... if there's no evidence and all you can do is support, whatever the decision is then support can know the truth.
Here can't help much if the story is like this.
Because it is rare to hack a casino account unless it is your own negligence.

He sold the account. I know the person he sold it to and he tried to get it back the day the token launched which locked the account.
Hmmm is that so?
Maybe he won't come back here again after the above post. Lol
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