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Topic: Slot Games' RTP, variable?? - page 6. (Read 1317 times)

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February 21, 2022, 06:17:53 AM
#9

To add, if I'm not mistaken, online casinos' RTP on both DEMO and ACTUAL slot can be different, in which they add more RTP on the DEMO mode. Not sure if it's absolutely true, my experience on both gambling with real money and playing demo modes, in demo, I'm winning a lot. So I guess it is somewhat true.

RTP on DEMO & ACTUAL slot SHOULD be the same. For an obvious reason, player should experience the same play on free play and real-money mode. Otherwise, it's not a fair deal to player. But, yeah, I have seen sample of a different RTP for a free & real money mode.
legendary
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February 21, 2022, 05:49:18 AM
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I'm not sure but I remember reading a similar discussion back then as the player tried to point out there was one casino that had a slightly higher payout compared to another casino even though the game is the same.

I think one of the slot providers that lets you do this is Booming or Betsoft, not sure if it's both of them but i'm sure that the name of the provider is starting with the letter "B" since these are the providers that most casinos have back then.


 I think Betsoft do, drastical difference frome one casino to another !
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February 21, 2022, 05:41:29 AM
#7
I'm not sure but I remember reading a similar discussion back then as the player tried to point out there was one casino that had a slightly higher payout compared to another casino even though the game is the same.

I think one of the slot providers that lets you do this is Booming or Betsoft, not sure if it's both of them but i'm sure that the name of the provider is starting with the letter "B" since these are the providers that most casinos have back then.
I remember someone created a topic just like this before. Further discussions also is about if casinos can change the slots' RTP. Which most of the providers offers.

To add, if I'm not mistaken, online casinos' RTP on both DEMO and ACTUAL slot can be different, in which they add more RTP on the DEMO mode. Not sure if it's absolutely true, my experience on both gambling with real money and playing demo modes, in demo, I'm winning a lot. So I guess it is somewhat true.
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February 21, 2022, 04:25:56 AM
#6
I'm not sure but I remember reading a similar discussion back then as the player tried to point out there was one casino that had a slightly higher payout compared to another casino even though the game is the same.

I think one of the slot providers that lets you do this is Booming or Betsoft, not sure if it's both of them but i'm sure that the name of the provider is starting with the letter "B" since these are the providers that most casinos have back then.
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February 20, 2022, 06:00:32 PM
#5

 Hi

 Si it is true that RTP of slot games can be adapted to the casinos preferences ??


Hi Danydee,

Yes, casino can choose, or better say request different RTP settings, if the game provider has multiple RTP settings available. And the bad news is that in the last year and so, it's a trend amongst the online casinos, including some big names in the industry.
 
do all providers do this ?

No - there are software providers with a  fix RTP for every slot/casino game. But many of them offer multiple RTP versions.
Some of the providers that actually have ONE fix RTP version of the game(s) are:

Big Time Gaming
Relax Gaming
YGGDRASIL
Elk Studios
Iron Dog Studios
Nextgen Gaming
Kalamba Games

And what about when slots are accessed directly on the casino website, here anything can happen, things like avoiding use of RNG too.

In the case that games are hosted on different servers (not official servers of the game provider), then those are "fake" slots, and yes, anything can happen. Here I am talking about industry software providers (Pragmatic, Microgaming, BTG, NLC....etc).
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February 20, 2022, 04:39:31 PM
#4
RTP is some like the payment tolerance, the slot should have the RTP assigned ever. This would vary according to each provider and casino, but in general it is the same.

In any case there is a fairly well known thread here, where you can find more details and actually funnel your question into an existing discussion thread.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59307710
well, of course if you like it.

 
legendary
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February 20, 2022, 02:25:48 PM
#3
Hello Danydee

I don't think the casinos can make public this information because a variable RTP would mean they are rigged because if you increase the RTP the user will lose more times.
 You surely mean decrease!




To be honest, I'm not sure if the RTP is variable, but what I know is that we can search slots by RTP and this way play with better odds. just google rtp-slots and you will find a huge list.
 Not all casinos do this,  and on top some do not even provide the RTP info !




Most of the slots are provided by gambling agencies that develop these games, and they rent them as a service. They don't have to prove the fairness of each roll because they have a verified license. And this means we shouldn't care about what happens in the backend and we should trust them because if they do something nasty then they will lose their license.
 Here's the point,
 I've read somewhere here ( https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/top-5-slots-games-to-play-in-2022-5383777 ) that RTP may vary from casino to another and can be adapted to the casinos wants !  In addition in some casinos software is executed under (the website/casino URL), normally it should redirects to the game provider servers, so you know you are running the game from the original makers,  but running the game under another (Interface if we could say) there's no more, or any insurance there, and everything can happen.










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Yeah, with PnG slots it can be seen in the code, while Pragmatic, NLC and others on info page. Play 'n GO can be brutal at some sites, as they have 5 different RTP models (96%, 94%, 91%, 87% and 84%). Not arguing that online casinos can't increase/decrease RTPs, it's just that it's not an easy click of a button from their side. They need to contact game provider and request change from provider's side.

legendary
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February 20, 2022, 12:16:09 PM
#2
Hello Danydee

I don't think the casinos can make public this information because a variable RTP would mean they are rigged because if you increase the RTP the user will lose more times.

Most of the slots are provided by gambling agencies that develop these games, and they rent them as a service. They don't have to prove the fairness of each roll because they have a verified license. And this means we shouldn't care about what happens in the backend and we should trust them because if they do something nasty then they will lose their license.

To be honest, I'm not sure if the RTP is variable, but what I know is that we can search slots by RTP and this way play with better odds. just google rtp-slots and you will find a huge list.
legendary
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February 20, 2022, 11:09:03 AM
#1
 
 Hi

 Si it is true that RTP of slot games can be adapted to the casinos preferences ??
 
 do all providers do this ?


 And what about when slots are accessed directly on the casino website, here anything can happen, things like avoiding use of RNG too.



 Thanks to everybody
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