^I think it sucks because mostly new releases are high volatility, so you can have that amount of losing streak. I personally play more medium volatility nowadays (which translates to older games) to avoid ugly play session. Luckily you only lost 750k IDR which is not a big deal I believe. Imagine you play $20 bonus buy, it'll be more sad.
Newer releases are usually more aggressive because the majority of players seem to like it, or worse, have lower RTP (except Pragmatic Play which stays on ~96.5 range).
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Anyway, last week I was lucky:
It's a very old game, and I didn't expect it!
It's a very old game, and I didn't expect it!
Should we move to pragmatic old games now because I can say that most new games by pragmatic sucks lately?
Many people including me are getting very bad result in new pragmatic games.
Few days ago, I did 50 buys on FP2 and another 50 buys on Gates of Olympus but the biggest payout was 3.6x on Gates.
I can say more than 50% of result was less than 1x, some other percent 1x-2x.
Fortunately it was all cheap buy 20k IDR each and I lost around 750k IDR
^God Gamer shared a big win #applause
I'll wait for your 40k multiplier!
I think for bonus buy lovers like you, Rise of Giza PowerNudge (Pragmatic) instead can be a great option.
Anyway, last week I was lucky:
It's a very old game, and I didn't expect it!
I'll wait for your 40k multiplier!
Play'N Go has released some new games, have you tried that? Sisters of the Sun is a nice one
Yeah, the mechanic is like Moon Princess and Rise of Olympus. I think I wasted 100 spins there. A lot of small wins, but in the end, it eats up my balance. I think for bonus buy lovers like you, Rise of Giza PowerNudge (Pragmatic) instead can be a great option.
Anyway, last week I was lucky:
It's a very old game, and I didn't expect it!
Recently I like the game "Hippo POP" by YGGdrasil, doing Normal spins or Buy feature has the same good result. Cherry POP is already boring 
RTP: 96.1%
Max win: 48150x
@mu_enrico Play'N Go has released some new games, have you tried that? Sisters of the Sun is a nice one
RTP: 96.1%
Max win: 48150x
@mu_enrico Play'N Go has released some new games, have you tried that? Sisters of the Sun is a nice one
Master, you can buy feature in fun mode if you play directly on Pragmatic's website: https://www.pragmaticplay.com/en/
Ah yeah, but we can't do that on the platform How to activate this cheap spins (play with IDR) master? I'm interested...
Looks like I have shared some of my buy bonus with IDR with you just like as Panjul said, change your currency into Fiat (IDR)
How to activate this cheap spins master? I'm interested...
Open the games and you'll see an option to change what currency to be shown in your playing balance https://prnt.sc/1qi5c40
Choose IDR if you want to bet as low as 200 perak
Bear in mind that you cant do it in all games but I'll give you some pragmatic games where you can bet 200IDR per spin on Stake:
- FP2, 5Lion Megaways, Hot Fiesta, Buffalo King Megaways, Chicken Drop, Empty the bank, Juicy Fruits.
That's the games that I tried last night with so cheap min bet.
we know in the fun mode we can't use the buy feature option on Pragmatic
Master, you can buy feature in fun mode if you play directly on Pragmatic's website: https://www.pragmaticplay.com/en/How to activate this cheap spins (play with IDR) master? I'm interested...
@roycilik: What do you think with the new system on Stake where you can bet on pragmatic play games as low as Rp.200,- per spin?
With that low amount per spin, buy feature cost Rp.20,000 ($1.4) only which is nice for those who were not dare enough to risk $20 for the buy feature.
It is now more affordable but ufortunately not all games are available to be played with such low amount.
Yeah I just found out from you and tried it With that low amount per spin, buy feature cost Rp.20,000 ($1.4) only which is nice for those who were not dare enough to risk $20 for the buy feature.
It is now more affordable but ufortunately not all games are available to be played with such low amount.
that's not a bad idea in my opinion, especially for those who want to try to "Buy feature" in Pragmatic
we know in the fun mode we can't use the buy feature option on Pragmatic
@roycilik: What do you think with the new system on Stake where you can bet on pragmatic play games as low as Rp.200,- per spin?
With that low amount per spin, buy feature cost Rp.20,000 ($1.4) only which is nice for those who were not dare enough to risk $20 for the buy feature.
It is now more affordable but ufortunately not all games are available to be played with such low amount.
With that low amount per spin, buy feature cost Rp.20,000 ($1.4) only which is nice for those who were not dare enough to risk $20 for the buy feature.
It is now more affordable but ufortunately not all games are available to be played with such low amount.
Yeah, thanks but I am not as great as you and your useless strategies. 
Do you know his strategy or do you know how he plays slot and have you tried his strategy?
If you do not know or if you have not tried his strategy, how can you say it is useless?
How long have you been playing on Duelbits?
If you asked it to me then I'd answer it gently "NOT YET"
When it comes to slots there is not really much to analyze, whatever strategy that you can come up is something the developers would have thought already and the payouts should be lower than the odds to win
So do you think every player who plays slots will end up just losing a lot of their money?Stake is one of the gambling platforms that has the most slot games. Looks like you are not decent to say like that
Stake.com is the best platform and I've only been there playing dice a lot but winnings are pretty much the same as slots so until now there's been a fair amount of payout odds on that.
But I agree with @roycilik's statement.
Based on your experience while playing in slots, is the probability of winning measurable?
It depends on the definition of "winning," if it's max-win the help section of some provider states the probability of getting a max-win. Let's say 1/1,000,000 spins (one in a million). But, it doesn't mean that you will definitely get a max-win if you spin 1 million times. It's only on average after x billion simulation. That said, you can get a max-win even with one spin and get none even after one million spins.I think we can't calculate winning (if you mean profit) probability without knowing the math inside the slots software, and how many spins you want to do. I only know that more people are losing than winning.
I was taught by a friend of mine, even in the competition it is not always possible to cover the losses suffered by the players, so I have to be wise to take steps. Is it really like that?
Yes, if you are often unlucky (like me). I think this week alone I burned more than $200 without getting any good result. So -$200 for me this week, so the worst scenario for me.So do you think every player who plays slots will end up just losing a lot of their money?
Nope, it is based on your LUCK, and some dudes are luckier than other.He thinks the same as I do. That slots are EV-games and therefore people who play they lose in the long run, even though in the short run they may win a jackpot or have a winning streak.
You know that's only in theory (and on average), right? Like in theory, your chance to win lottery is slim, slimmer than getting struck by lightning, EV- for sure in the long run. But for those who are lucky, they win and get EV+++.It overwhelms me how this thread can have 25 pages of supposed "strategies" to win with slots when it is a game that mathematically gives you less money than you bet.
Please read the content first before commenting, that should be the golden rule of this forum. There are no 25 pages of strategy here, but this thread is for slots players to share their experience, bragging their winning, informing contests, discussing their favorite games, etc.And what is the strategy for, then?
Please, read the content first.Well, there is no "strategy" per se for this one click spin and pure luck-based game. However, you can use several playing styles for various scenarios you may encounter in this game.
Let's say you deposit $100 and want to play slots. "Strategy" here is just to give you some scenario on how to play the game.You can do $20 x 5 spins -> not a good strategy IMO, but you can win big depends on your luck.
Or you can do $0.25 x 400 spins, or progressive $0.25 x 200 and then followed by $0.5 x 100.
It depends on what you play for. If you expect to get rich, yes, you are wasting your time. If you expect to be entertained or have fun, having the opportunity to win money in that session, but being aware that it is a game in which the odds are against you, no, you are not.
True, don't play poker as well, it's just a waste of time and money. Work harder and smarter! LuLYeah, thanks but I am not as great as you and your useless strategies.
At least I'm actually playing the game and not just theoryAnd what is the strategy for, then?
You already gave the answer here:If you expect to be entertained or have fun, having the opportunity to win money in that session
Knowing about the RTP and Volatility of a game is part of the strategy, if you just choose a game randomly without knowing the RTP and Volatility of course it will burn your money quickly if you don't have a good bankroll. Each slot game has a different RTP and Volatility (even low RTP up to %60), this is why you need to have a strategy in choosing a game
How about Duelbits? There are so many slots games, do I just lose my money there if I play slots there?
Much better than rollbit, that's for sure. In Duelbits you are going to have a better user experience, which is what I was talking about before. Gambling occupies an important part of the entertainment sector, and for that it is key how the player feels, and not to deceive him with false promises that he is going to get rich with games that are of negative potential return in the long run. How long have you been playing on Duelbits?
@Poker Player Owh man, Thanks for your explanation, your mathematically is so cool, you're great
Yeah, thanks but I am not as great as you and your useless strategies.
So you think I'll only wash my time for playing Slot games?
Do you mean waste?
It depends on what you play for. If you expect to get rich, yes, you are wasting your time. If you expect to be entertained or have fun, having the opportunity to win money in that session, but being aware that it is a game in which the odds are against you, no, you are not.
Here discussing strategy does not mean it is the key to winning a game
And what is the strategy for, then?
How about Duelbits? There are so many slots games, do I just lose my money there if I play slots there?
Much better than rollbit, that's for sure. In Duelbits you are going to have a better user experience, which is what I was talking about before. Gambling occupies an important part of the entertainment sector, and for that it is key how the player feels, and not to deceive him with false promises that he is going to get rich with games that are of negative potential return in the long run.
@Poker Player Owh man, Thanks for your explanation, your mathematically is so cool, you're great
So you think I'll only wash my time for playing Slot games?
there are many slot games, it allows you not to stay in just one game
How about Duelbits? There are so many slots games, do I just lose my money there if I play slots there?
So you think I'll only wash my time for playing Slot games?
there are many slot games, it allows you not to stay in just one game
The so-called "strategies" for winning at slots are simply garbage.
If you find this thread useless to attract many players to play slots, simple just ignore this thread. Here discussing strategy does not mean it is the key to winning a gameHow about Duelbits? There are so many slots games, do I just lose my money there if I play slots there?
When it comes to slots there is not really much to analyze, whatever strategy that you can come up is something the developers would have thought already and the payouts should be lower than the odds to win
So do you think every player who plays slots will end up just losing a lot of their money?Stake is one of the gambling platforms that has the most slot games. Looks like you are not decent to say like that
He thinks the same as I do. That slots are EV-games and therefore people who play they lose in the long run, even though in the short run they may win a jackpot or have a winning streak. It overwhelms me how this thread can have 25 pages of supposed "strategies" to win with slots when it is a game that mathematically gives you less money than you bet. For every $1K that goes into a slot machine, it returns $700 in prizes (depending on the type of machine and game). This means that for every $1 you bet, the potential return is negative, -$0.30. As much as you can win a jackpot or have a winning streak of several prizes in the short term, the more you play the closer the total bet will be to the total potential return, which will be what you wagered minus 30%.
The so-called "strategies" for winning at slots are simply garbage.
When it comes to slots there is not really much to analyze, whatever strategy that you can come up is something the developers would have thought already and the payouts should be lower than the odds to win
So do you think every player who plays slots will end up just losing a lot of their money?Stake is one of the gambling platforms that has the most slot games. Looks like you are not decent to say like that
Lately I really want to go deeper into slot games and others. Moreover, seeing the duelbit competition that is won by you very often, makes me curious about the strategy to win each game. I didn't have a good knowledge base in slots until I studied slowly in the thread the OP made. To my knowledge, playing in gambling is just pure luck and there is no winning strategy. and does it have to be big to win big bets too?
You have answered about your curiosity yourself, it is pure luck based game and luck is the only deciding factor but you can try to push your luck by keep playing as long as possible.
Your bet amount has nothing to do with your luck, but it is obvious that bigger bets will give you bigger wins but it requires you bigger bankroll to start.
If you want to beat him, you need to have bigger luck and maybe bigger bankroll or at least equal bankroll to his bankroll.
Is it really more profitable to play slots in gambling site competitions or without competition? I've tried fun play on several sites and next time I really need some guider to become better at gambling. Please help me, next bro.
In theory, yes, it's more profitable with competition since competition prize means more RTP (Return to Player), but only if you can get at least last prize. Even if you lose money playing slots but manage to win the competition, you can end up in profit. Here's some scenario:- You lose all your deposit scoring no win (worst scenario, this is often happen if you play with a small bankroll);
- You lose all your deposit but scoring some decent win (multiplier etc.) you can end up in profit depend on how much your wager vs competition prize (@roycilik called this as a loss back);
- You win some profit from playing, but your score isn't big enough for the competition. It's still profit;
- You win big from playing and at the same time you win the competition. Best scenario.
However, I can't encourage you to gamble. If you aren't a gambler, maybe you will be better to stay that way because:
Disclaimer: gambling is for adults who understand the risks involved with this game. Plus, OP wouldn't take responsibility whatsoever if you then become slots addict and lose lots of money after reading this thread.
In other words, it's risky Yup, I understand the risks in the world of gambling but because of a very high curiosity it attracted me to this thread. Based on your experience while playing in slots, is the probability of winning measurable? Because I was taught by a friend of mine, even in the competition it is not always possible to cover the losses suffered by the players, so I have to be wise to take steps. Is it really like that?
To my knowledge, playing in gambling is just pure luck and there is no winning strategy. and does it have to be big to win big bets too?
There is some common knowledge about how to win the contest (at least in theory).1. For multiplier, go for at least 5,000x max-win because you can't win multiplier contest if you play 500x or 1,000x max-win games.
2. For max hit, you can play medium volatility with higher bet, $1 for example since you don't need a massive multiplier.
3. For bonus buy, go for minimum buy, $10 previously.
That's about it, and you need decent bankroll if you aim for #1. If only for last place, or for fun, I deposit only ~$80.
That is great advice.I also managed to be a winner of Play n Go tournament in Sportsbet and I managed to win by playing with 0.5 Usd to 1 Usd bet in games where the bonus round falls often on the reels.So to add to your advice I would also say playing games where the bonus round falls often on the reels gives you some sort of advantage.
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