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Quote from: roycilik on August 21, 2021, 04:45:07 PM

Quote from: Silberman on August 21, 2021, 04:26:07 PM

When it comes to slots there is not really much to analyze, whatever strategy that you can come up is something the developers would have thought already and the payouts should be lower than the odds to win

So do you think every player who plays slots will end up just losing a lot of their money?
Stake is one of the gambling platforms that has the most slot games. Looks like you are not decent to say like that

He thinks the same as I do. That slots are EV-games and therefore people who play they lose in the long run, even though in the short run they may win a jackpot or have a winning streak. It overwhelms me how this thread can have 25 pages of supposed "strategies" to win with slots when it is a game that mathematically gives you less money than you bet. For every $1K that goes into a slot machine, it returns $700 in prizes (depending on the type of machine and game). This means that for every $1 you bet, the potential return is negative, -$0.30. As much as you can win a jackpot or have a winning streak of several prizes in the short term, the more you play the closer the total bet will be to the total potential return, which will be what you wagered minus 30%.

The so-called "strategies" for winning at slots are simply garbage.

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Quote from: Silberman on August 21, 2021, 04:26:07 PM

When it comes to slots there is not really much to analyze, whatever strategy that you can come up is something the developers would have thought already and the payouts should be lower than the odds to win

So do you think every player who plays slots will end up just losing a lot of their money?
Stake is one of the gambling platforms that has the most slot games. Looks like you are not decent to say like that

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Quote from: panjul07 on August 19, 2021, 11:38:28 AM

Quote from: oHnK on August 19, 2021, 11:14:56 AM

Lately I really want to go deeper into slot games and others. Moreover, seeing the duelbit competition that is won by you very often, makes me curious about the strategy to win each game. I didn't have a good knowledge base in slots until I studied slowly in the thread the OP made. To my knowledge, playing in gambling is just pure luck and there is no winning strategy. and does it have to be big to win big bets too?

You have answered about your curiosity yourself, it is pure luck based game and luck is the only deciding factor but you can try to push your luck by keep playing as long as possible.
Your bet amount has nothing to do with your luck, but it is obvious that bigger bets will give you bigger wins but it requires you bigger bankroll to start.
If you want to beat him, you need to have bigger luck and maybe bigger bankroll or at least equal bankroll to his bankroll.

When it comes to slots there is not really much to analyze, whatever strategy that you can come up is something the developers would have thought already and the payouts should be lower than the odds to win, the only ones that I have seen that have ever made money in those games are the one that play for a chance to a big prize, obviously the chances to win this are very low but it is the only way to actually win more money than what we put in it.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on August 20, 2021, 11:06:44 AM

Quote from: oHnK on August 20, 2021, 08:54:26 AM

Is it really more profitable to play slots in gambling site competitions or without competition? I've tried fun play on several sites and next time I really need some guider to become better at gambling. Please help me, next bro.

In theory, yes, it's more profitable with competition since competition prize means more RTP (Return to Player), but only if you can get at least last prize. Even if you lose money playing slots but manage to win the competition, you can end up in profit. Here's some scenario:
- You lose all your deposit scoring no win (worst scenario, this is often happen if you play with a small bankroll);
- You lose all your deposit but scoring some decent win (multiplier etc.) you can end up in profit depend on how much your wager vs competition prize (@roycilik called this as a loss back);
- You win some profit from playing, but your score isn't big enough for the competition. It's still profit;
- You win big from playing and at the same time you win the competition. Best scenario.

However, I can't encourage you to gamble. If you aren't a gambler, maybe you will be better to stay that way because:

Quote from: mu_enrico on May 18, 2020, 12:52:13 PM

Disclaimer: gambling is for adults who understand the risks involved with this game. Plus, OP wouldn't take responsibility whatsoever if you then become slots addict and lose lots of money after reading this thread.

In other words, it's risky Wink

Yup, I understand the risks in the world of gambling but because of a very high curiosity it attracted me to this thread. Based on your experience while playing in slots, is the probability of winning measurable? Because I was taught by a friend of mine, even in the competition it is not always possible to cover the losses suffered by the players, so I have to be wise to take steps. Is it really like that?

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Quote from: mu_enrico on August 19, 2021, 12:53:15 PM

Quote from: oHnK on August 19, 2021, 11:14:56 AM

To my knowledge, playing in gambling is just pure luck and there is no winning strategy. and does it have to be big to win big bets too?

There is some common knowledge about how to win the contest (at least in theory).
1. For multiplier, go for at least 5,000x max-win because you can't win multiplier contest if you play 500x or 1,000x max-win games.
2. For max hit, you can play medium volatility with higher bet, $1 for example since you don't need a massive multiplier.
3. For bonus buy, go for minimum buy, $10 previously.

That's about it, and you need decent bankroll if you aim for #1. If only for last place, or for fun, I deposit only ~$80.

That is great advice.I also managed to be a winner of Play n Go tournament in Sportsbet and I managed to win by playing with 0.5 Usd to 1 Usd bet in games where the bonus round falls often on the reels.So to add to your advice I would also say playing games where the bonus round falls often on the reels gives you some sort of advantage.

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Quote from: Bitinity on August 20, 2021, 07:12:32 PM

Typical hacksaw game, most of their games are brutal indeed. Do you remember when I told you that I lost $1,500 in a week? Half of that amount was a lost in Chaos Crew.

Yeah that's so bad
If you look at the RTP of Chaos Crew it would make sense, RTP 92% will get you busted faster (if you don't get a big win at the beginning)

Quote from: Bitinity on August 20, 2021, 07:12:32 PM

I havent tried Xpander, I'll put it on my "waiting list" slot to play. Grin

Xpander is better than Chaos Crew regarding the RTP
but I didn't recommend Xpander, good for me not necessarily good for you Grin

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Quote from: roycilik on August 20, 2021, 11:28:09 AM

Btw, I have made a new record from the previous 8738.60x and now I have reached 10000x (Max Win) Grin

From what game? Xpander by Hacksaw Grin

Buy Feature? of course...

Replay https://replay.hacksawgaming.com/?roundid=254758623&partner=609&language=en

WTF man...your have unstoppable luck. Is it a proof of "the more you give, the more you get back"?

Quote from: roycilik on August 20, 2021, 11:28:09 AM

But, I don't recommend this game especially if you don't have a good bankroll. This game is so brutal, I have lost around $300 in a short time before getting Max Win

Typical hacksaw game, most of their games are brutal indeed. Do you remember when I told you that I lost $1,500 in a week? Half of that amount was a lost in Chaos Crew. I havent tried Xpander, I'll put it on my "waiting list" slot to play. Grin

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Quote from: Bitinity on August 19, 2021, 08:50:36 PM

Hope everything goes well soon and I can come back, my main priority now is in my family.

Yeah that's the most important thing

Quote from: Bitinity on August 19, 2021, 08:50:36 PM

The new competitions are up, good luck for you as always and hope you are still holding your luck.

Looks like Hh still hasn't had time to change the rules for Bonus Buy and Max Hit

Btw, I have made a new record from the previous 8738.60x and now I have reached 10000x (Max Win) Grin

From what game? Xpander by Hacksaw Grin

Buy Feature? of course...

Replay https://replay.hacksawgaming.com/?roundid=254758623&partner=609&language=en

But, I don't recommend this game especially if you don't have a good bankroll. This game is so brutal, I have lost around $300 in a short time before getting Max Win

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Quote from: oHnK on August 20, 2021, 08:54:26 AM

Is it really more profitable to play slots in gambling site competitions or without competition? I've tried fun play on several sites and next time I really need some guider to become better at gambling. Please help me, next bro.

In theory, yes, it's more profitable with competition since competition prize means more RTP (Return to Player), but only if you can get at least last prize. Even if you lose money playing slots but manage to win the competition, you can end up in profit. Here's some scenario:
- You lose all your deposit scoring no win (worst scenario, this is often happen if you play with a small bankroll);
- You lose all your deposit but scoring some decent win (multiplier etc.) you can end up in profit depend on how much your wager vs competition prize (@roycilik called this as a loss back);
- You win some profit from playing, but your score isn't big enough for the competition. It's still profit;
- You win big from playing and at the same time you win the competition. Best scenario.

However, I can't encourage you to gamble. If you aren't a gambler, maybe you will be better to stay that way because:

Quote from: mu_enrico on May 18, 2020, 12:52:13 PM

Disclaimer: gambling is for adults who understand the risks involved with this game. Plus, OP wouldn't take responsibility whatsoever if you then become slots addict and lose lots of money after reading this thread.

In other words, it's risky Wink

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Quote from: mu_enrico on August 19, 2021, 12:53:15 PM

There is some common knowledge about how to win the contest (at least in theory).
1. For multiplier, go for at least 5,000x max-win because you can't win multiplier contest if you play 500x or 1,000x max-win games.
2. For max hit, you can play medium volatility with higher bet, $1 for example since you don't need a massive multiplier.
3. For bonus buy, go for minimum buy, $10 previously.

That's about it, and you need decent bankroll if you aim for #1. If only for last place, or for fun, I deposit only ~$80.

Thanks for ur explanation, honestly I don't interest to join the competition because I know that I'm still a newbie but overall I am interested to know more about slot strategies. Is it really more profitable to play slots in gambling site competitions or without competition? I've tried fun play on several sites and next time I really need some guider to become better at gambling. Please help me, next bro.

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Quote from: roycilik on August 18, 2021, 03:37:19 PM

Quote from: Bitinity on August 18, 2021, 01:31:15 AM

Really miss the time when I was dominating the duelbit's competitions, hopefully I can be there again soon and compete with you all.

Yeah I hope you get better now and back on the track Wink

Thanks mate, you are my best friend that I have never met Wink

. Hope everything goes well soon and I can come back, my main priority now is in my family. I have to spend more time as well as money for them now till everything back to normal like before. The new competitions are up, good luck for you as always and hope you are still holding your luck.

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@oHnK In theory, mu_enrico has been explained to you

Quote from: oHnK on August 19, 2021, 11:14:56 AM

Moreover, seeing the duelbit competition that is won by you very often

You need to know, winning the competitions isn't the main target for me, I consider the prize (If win) as a reserve fund when I lose
I play slots because I like that game, not just for the reward. Sometimes I burn a lot of funds (more than the prize pool)

Quote from: oHnK on August 19, 2021, 11:14:56 AM

I didn't have a good knowledge base in slots until I studied slowly in the thread the OP made.

The slot game also has a Demo mode, which you can try first before using real money

Quote from: oHnK on August 19, 2021, 11:14:56 AM

To my knowledge, playing in gambling is just pure luck and there is no winning strategy.

Yeah, anything needs Luck and I believe everyone has luck
let's say there are 2 players in the competition:
Player 1: Being lucky
Player 2: Being lucky + Strategy (or knowlage)
Who has a greater chance of being the winner?

it's all about chance

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Quote from: oHnK on August 19, 2021, 11:14:56 AM

To my knowledge, playing in gambling is just pure luck and there is no winning strategy. and does it have to be big to win big bets too?

There is some common knowledge about how to win the contest (at least in theory).
1. For multiplier, go for at least 5,000x max-win because you can't win multiplier contest if you play 500x or 1,000x max-win games.
2. For max hit, you can play medium volatility with higher bet, $1 for example since you don't need a massive multiplier.
3. For bonus buy, go for minimum buy, $10 previously.

That's about it, and you need decent bankroll if you aim for #1. If only for last place, or for fun, I deposit only ~$80.

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Quote from: oHnK on August 19, 2021, 11:14:56 AM

Lately I really want to go deeper into slot games and others. Moreover, seeing the duelbit competition that is won by you very often, makes me curious about the strategy to win each game. I didn't have a good knowledge base in slots until I studied slowly in the thread the OP made. To my knowledge, playing in gambling is just pure luck and there is no winning strategy. and does it have to be big to win big bets too?

You have answered about your curiosity yourself, it is pure luck based game and luck is the only deciding factor but you can try to push your luck by keep playing as long as possible.
Your bet amount has nothing to do with your luck, but it is obvious that bigger bets will give you bigger wins but it requires you bigger bankroll to start.
If you want to beat him, you need to have bigger luck and maybe bigger bankroll or at least equal bankroll to his bankroll.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on August 18, 2021, 01:04:40 PM

Yep, the legendary 2500x Cheesy

The good news is I have broken a new record for my highest win, "Xpander" by Hacksaw provider
8738.60x from the base bet Cheesy

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Lately I really want to go deeper into slot games and others. Moreover, seeing the duelbit competition that is won by you very often, makes me curious about the strategy to win each game. I didn't have a good knowledge base in slots until I studied slowly in the thread the OP made. To my knowledge, playing in gambling is just pure luck and there is no winning strategy. and does it have to be big to win big bets too?

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