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Mandatory or not, KYC thing actually already old thing on gambling site. As long as you didn't broke any rules (i.e playing with multiple accounts, use VPN on banned country to pass the site (if site doesn't allow VPN), Faucet abuse) you shouldn't worry about KYC thing.

Bitsler has paid more than you can imagine because i've seen there are lot of whales on this site.

Simple thing, before you make a deposit to a site, always read their TOS first about KYC.

I am not implying Bitsler will do it but Terms and Conditions always state the website operators can do anything they like if they suspect fraudulent activity but the problem is many casino and gaming websites have used this clause as an excuse to selective scam users.

Reading TOS in most cases will not be helpful because the clause that allows casinos and gaming websites to freeze accounts and seize funds supersedes all other clauses and that makes it easy for users to be made victims of scam website operators.

Simple thing, before you make a deposit to a site, always read their TOS first about KYC.

You know what's the problem with that? The fact is that, bitsler could have faced with a "must" situation if they are asking for it, and that could be true, maybe providers wanted it, maybe something else, maybe government personally sent them a mail, doesn't matter why but they may end up being forced to ask for it.

However that doesn't matter to gamblers like me, I do not care what happened to them, I do not care what's the reason for it, the fact is that they are asking for it and there are other places not asking for it, that's good enough reason to not play here and gamble somewhere else. That's the problem bitsler facing right now, no matter how reasonable their reason could be, it's still fact that they are asking for it and other places are not asking for it, and that makes things complicated for them.

So for players who is okay in doing KYC with Bitsler: aside from the hassle, and having to trust bitsler with some personal information, it would be an advantage if you would like to be sure that the games you played are legal for you, thus you wont be a victim of casinos not giving wins especially "BIG WINS" to players just because they can argue about the legality of playing a certain game.

-So imagine you win 100 BTC on a game by 3rd-Party provider, and you find that your winnings are forfeited because you shouldn't be playing that game in the first place.
-For me that would be a real disappointment.
-Better be safe than sorry.

This is a guess!

Some third-party providers, depending on where they are situated, and the constitution in which they are bounded to comply, which might include having to strictly know who uses their service. (Example: The place where that 3rd party provider is situated have some government policy that will not allow services to be offered to "select-locations", because of whatever special condition yada yada yada.)

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It may look like a hassle and disadvantage but as much as we would like to be out of the grip of govts, for us to do what we want, when we want and how we want.

So for players who is okay in doing KYC with Bitsler: aside from the hassle, and having to trust bitsler with some personal information, it would be an advantage if you would like to be sure that the games you played are legal for you, thus you wont be a victim of casinos not giving wins especially "BIG WINS" to players just because they can argue about the legality of playing a certain game.

-So imagine you win 100 BTC on a game by 3rd-Party provider, and you find that your winnings are forfeited because you shouldn't be playing that game in the first place.
-For me that would be a real disappointment.
-Better be safe than sorry.

In fact there are still many crypto casinos that provides the same 3rd party providers but they do not ask their players for KYC just to play the games. Of course there must be a valid reason why Bitsler decide to make KYC is mandatory for their players in order to play those 3rd party games but I can say that it can be a disadvantage because there are still many crypto players who wants to play anonymously.

In fact there are still many crypto casinos that provides the same 3rd party providers but they do not ask their players for KYC just to play the games. Of course there must be a valid reason why Bitsler decide to make KYC is mandatory for their players in order to play those 3rd party games but I can say that it can be a disadvantage because there are still many crypto players who wants to play anonymously.

As for the KYC part many members are commenting on, this probably is a legal requirement from the providers. Most of the brands I'm seeing like Betsoft and Evolution hold multiple licenses (MGA, UKGC, etc.) that demand they verify players. These are all measures to prevent money laundering and underage gambling they must comply with. So, I'm guessing it wasn't Bitsler's choice.

Simply sifting through potential bugs/issues before making announcements.

Important updates will always be shared here.

1 February 2020

Bitsler Flash Roulette Provably Fair Seeding Event
We will soon release our new game Flash Roulette! To make this game provably fair, we announce our methods here. A chain of 1 million SHA512 hashes was generated (starting with a server secret.) The final hash is:

4c28a546da313d86a9ca42c59e833c179275ae0397893e92685ff414a17fe1ee963623a18c67317 1e0ee77204252c8fa0b7f629630861f53ea7b94a13f205e9b

Bitsler will go through the hashes (in reverse order) and use each hash to determine the roulette result. So the hash of our first game's hash is the same as our published final hash. To ensure we didn't pick a hash chain that has some advantage for us, we will use a future bitcoin block hash as "client seed" to generate the final roulette results. We will use the block hash of bitcoin block https://btc.com/block/668720 (around 8 AM GMT at Feb 2, 2020.)

The code to generate each roulette result is:

$hash = hash_hmac('sha512', $gameHash, $blockHash);
$config_multipliers = 
[ 
    [ 
        "150" => 3, 
        "100" => 8, 
        "50" => 5 
    ], 
    [ 
        "350" => 1, 
        "250" => 1, 
        "200" => 1, 
        "150" => 1, 
        "100" => 2, 
        "50" => 2, 
        "29" => 8 
    ], 
    [ 
        "350" => 1, 
        "250" => 1, 
        "200" => 1, 
        "150" => 1, 
        "100" => 2, 
        "50" => 2, 
        "29" => 8 
    ], 
    [ 
        "350" => 1, 
        "250" => 1, 
        "200" => 1, 
        "150" => 1, 
        "100" => 2, 
        "50" => 2, 
        "29" => 8 
    ] 
];    $offset = 0; 
do { 
    $number = substr($hash, $offset, 5); 
    $number = hexdec($number); 
    $offset += 5; 
} while ($number > 999999); 
$number = $number % 37;    $multipliers = []; 
for ($i = 0; $i < count($config_multipliers); $i++) { 
    do { 
        $multiNumber = substr($hash, $offset, 5); 
        $multiNumber = hexdec(($multiNumber)); 
        $offset += 5; 
    } while ($multiNumber > 999999 || isset($multipliers[$multiNumber % 37])); 
    $multiNumber = $multiNumber % 37; 
    // multiplier 
    $amount_number = hexdec(substr($hash, $offset, 1)); 
    $offset += 1; 
    // Loop multipliers 
    $multiplier_number = 0; 
    foreach ($config_multipliers[$i] as $multiplier => $range) { 
        $multiplier_number += $range; 
        // If the end of range is more than generated number, we use current multiplier 
        if ($multiplier_number > $amount_number) { 
            $multiplier = floatval($multiplier); 
            break; 
        } 
    }        // return 
    $multipliers[$multiNumber] = $multiplier; 
}   
print_r(["result" => $number, "multipliers" => $multipliers]);
!Important
This blog post will be shared on our social media channels and archived by several archive websites. Therefor we cannot edit the final hash (and therefor hash chain) nor the future bitcoin block number anymore. This makes our new game Flash Roulette completely provably fair.

Simply sifting through potential bugs/issues before making announcements.

Important updates will always be shared here.

5 Stages to complete KYC.

At first, it looks like a pain-in-the-*ss, but after convincing myself to finish these 5 stages, it was very easy and the verification team approved the docs I submitted really fast. Same day verification, it took about 2-3 hours, compared to other platforms where KYC takes a day or two or even longer..

One thing that I find, not very happy about is Bitsler do not offer something like a boost on reward or something for completing the KYC process. Most of the other platforms that implements KYC(optional), would offer some kind of "upgraded" boost. For example: Stake.com, offers double the amount of telegram challenge rewards for verified users.

I feel this would have deserved some sort of news post.

No other popular providers such as Play'n Go, No Limit, Pragmatic, PushGaming, Relax?

I also notice that they are no longer active here in the forum

Honestly KYC is no longer a shocking thing in world of crypto and we should not be really caring about it. I actually have a "kyc folder" in my computer, I have all sorts of documents and their pictures and me holding stuff all the time and even with that I need to take new pictures with ID all the time but aside from that I really do not care about KYC anymore, we should be beyond this.

I get that there are a lot of people who still want to stay as anon as possible and who would love to not share any information with anyone but crypto world runs via KYC and that's it, there is no other path to full crypto experience. This is why I do not care about it anymore. However I agree about the announcement thing, they were active here back in the day but they have decided not to care about here anymore I suppose, when you have such a huge update, you do announce it here, hell some places even do signature campaigns just on the new updates, so it is weird that they decided not to.

There is a good reason why mixers, blenders, and true privacy coins are still on demand.

Crypto world doesn't run via KYC and it's not necessary for full crypto experience. You just convinced yourself that that's the case. I am pretty sure online casinos like Bitsler knew the importance of not imposing identity verification right off the bat.

Perhaps you never really cared as long as you earn money in the first place.

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Honestly KYC is no longer a shocking thing in world of crypto and we should not be really caring about it.

I get that there are a lot of people who still want to stay as anon as possible and who would love to not share any information with anyone but crypto world runs via KYC and that's it, there is no other path to full crypto experience.

This is why I do not care about it anymore.

It is very unfortunate if KYC is mandatory for players in order to play that 3rd party games while many other sites let players play the same games without KYC.

Thanks. I just figured my seeds changed but I can't remember doing so. and by the way for those who did not want to change their Client Seeds but had to, I was just informed that they would ask you to change your Client Seed after 90 Days.
~snip