🌍⚽Sportsbet AFCON prediction pool discussion thread - page 19.

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Quote from: casperBGD on January 02, 2024, 04:02:21 PM

Quote from: Harkorede on January 02, 2024, 02:45:30 PM

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Free for those particpating in at least two Sportsbet pool or $50 is also fine by me, I'm not just so sure about how engaged I'll be with this as additional pool, but you I'm always down for whatever and whenever.
I remember Tomahawk9 being a very active participant of the last AFCON tournament, but it's been quite a very while he was active on here.

agree that free category should be properly defined, maybe should be free for those that are participating in three pools, not two (not sure what difference will make now, but will probably make it in the summer to have more participants in La Liga and Calcio pools

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yeah, tomahawk9 is not active anymore, hope that he is ok

I strongly agree on the 3 pools or more, because giving it a second thought, Sportsbet have at least 4-5 active sponspored pools, and there but a few people that join just one or two, I understand it could be down to interest and personal decision, but having a free pool for users playing in 3 already paid pools once in a while like this should drive more participants towards the upcoming seasons, that being said, I would also like an all inclusive pool, so if there will be a fee for others it should be highly moderate, maybe something in the range 0.5 mBTC which is currently a bit over $20, or around ~$30 would be fair, given that it's the start of a new year and quite a number of us (myself inclusive Grin

), might be on a tight budget for this month.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on January 02, 2024, 11:43:30 AM

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50$ sounds ok, I think 2mbtc is the sweet spot. Whatever the others decide is fine with me though.

IMO, 2 mBTC is a bit too much, considering current BTC price, but planning to join the pool

Quote from: Harkorede on January 02, 2024, 02:45:30 PM

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Free for those particpating in at least two Sportsbet pool or $50 is also fine by me, I'm not just so sure about how engaged I'll be with this as additional pool, but you I'm always down for whatever and whenever.
I remember Tomahawk9 being a very active participant of the last AFCON tournament, but it's been quite a very while he was active on here.

agree that free category should be properly defined, maybe should be free for those that are participating in three pools, not two (not sure what difference will make now, but will probably make it in the summer to have more participants in La Liga and Calcio pools

)

yeah, tomahawk9 is not active anymore, hope that he is ok

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Good to see more pools starting in new year but I am not sure I will make it for AFCON pool this time because of my busy upcoming schedule.
Maybe things change in next few days for me, but I have to organize my time better than last year and correct some mistakes I made.
Best of luck to all participants.

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As I won the last AFCON prediction pool I need to rejoin to retain my title. Tongue

I hope that Egypt get eliminated quickly surprisingly and Salah returns to the Premier League immediately. Just as they were 2 years ago it is quite nice that Sportsbet.io have sponsored the pool this year as well. I need to tell that I'm still wearing the jerseys I won 2 years ago.

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If the sponsor prize will be enough to cover for the SB pool participants then why not? ( this is if I fall into the free slot category) Cheesy

Quote from: cryptofrka on January 02, 2024, 02:13:45 PM

Will there be one for the Asian cup as well?
Maybe we can combine both and add points together at the end.

I doubt we can have both sponsored separately - and I doubt there would be much interest as well.

Lol honestly nobody cares about the Asian cup why?

1. Unfavourably timezones

2. Shitty players nobody want to watch.

I can't remember how I performed in the last edition but this sounds like something I will like to be part of. Not sure yet.

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Quote from: Trofo on January 02, 2024, 06:43:35 AM

*still deciding on buy ins, let me know if you have some opinion, free for participants of other sportsbet pools or buy in around 50$ in BTC or USDT over TRON for transactions

Free for those particpating in at least two Sportsbet pool or $50 is also fine by me, I'm not just so sure about how engaged I'll be with this as additional pool, but you I'm always down for whatever and whenever.

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I remember Tomahawk9 being a very active participant of the last AFCON tournament, but it's been quite a very while he was active on here.

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You can count me in.

Out of all the pools we've had the chance to play in over the last few years, the AFCON was the one where i recorded my worst performance ever, despite watching over 90% of the matches. I'm hoping to improve on that in some way...lol

As for the fee, i'm fine with whatever the majority decides, but i can't pay in USDT Tron (my exchange simply does not support it), it has to be BTC or one of the other major alts (if it comes to that).

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Will there be one for the Asian cup as well?
Maybe we can combine both and add points together at the end.

I doubt we can have both sponsored separately - and I doubt there would be much interest as well.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on January 02, 2024, 12:09:45 PM

$50 is ok for me, but it may be a bit too much for others, not sure.

It will be paid pool, same fee for all. Chances of anybody joining that isn't already part of Sportsbet sponsored competition are minimal for sure. Still waiting to see how much will we get from Sportsbet exactly and then I will decide on the fee. Problem is BTC transactions are quite high at the moment and anything less than 1 mBTC sounds silly. That is also the reason why I am thinking about USDT over tron but not sure how popular it is and it will be a headache to do the prizes with funds mixed in two cryptocurrencies.

Even mempool.space is down at the moment. Afraid to even look what tx fee is at the moment then Grin

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I was surprised when I got email from Superbru with invitation to AFCON pool. Didn't expected that we will have pool for AFCON this time. Not really sure how much I will follow it as previous time I managed to watch not so many games, mainly just in decisive stages. But offcourse that I'm in - how I can miss football prediction pool here Cheesy

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I agree that it should be paid pool - it just will make pool more fun and attractive. But not sure what fee we should have. $50 is ok for me, but it may be a bit too much for others, not sure.

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That's a very good news to start the year! But I'm afraid there will be a huge number of participants for a small number of prizes if anyone participating in one other pool is able to join for free. I'm not against a smaller fee for people participating elsewhere though.

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I'm in, would like it to be paid - it's a lot more serious that way.

50$ sounds ok, I think 2mbtc is the sweet spot. Whatever the others decide is fine with me though.

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Quote from: Trofo on January 02, 2024, 06:43:35 AM

*still deciding on buy ins, let me know if you have some opinion, free for participants of other sportsbet pools or buy in around 50$ in BTC or USDT over TRON for transactions

Both can work. Free for participants of other pools but open at a rate of $50 or any other agreed fee for those who want to participate, but are not on any current pool.

Will the sponsor amount be able to cover the expected reward for the winners?

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Hey guys, not necroposting. I am making this one live again. Details will follow during the day but here are some main particulars:
*we will be Sportsbet sponsored, details soon
*still deciding on buy ins, let me know if you have some opinion, free for participants of other sportsbet pools or buy in around 50$ in BTC or USDT over TRON for transactions

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Quote from: Trofo on February 09, 2022, 11:22:44 AM

Messi is nowhere near best penalty takers, he is just taking them to build up his personal stats and the team is going with it since he brings so much with his other qualities. I have a feeling Ronaldo is a bit better on penalties but I firmly believe he is the worst free kick taker in the world in the last couple of years

Check Matt Le Tissier stats for some really incredible numbers.

Messi is a clinical penalty taker, but he doesn't take as many as Ronaldo. Ronaldo loves the penalty taker game; he has about 50+ PK goals, which is more than any current footballer. Messi takes it whenever he feels like it; both of them are good, but not near the best. Mario Balotelli remains the only player with 100 percent conversation, despite playing only 8 times. His run and hoop technique is one of the best PK techniques after Jorginho If I had a gun on my head, I'd choose Jorginho to take a PK in order to save my life.

Ronald knows he's terrible at freekick, but he keeps playing anyway. That's one thing I don't like about his game; he's been taking freekicks to the birds for two years, so why keep taking? Why not give it to someone else?

Quote from: Trofo on February 09, 2022, 11:22:44 AM

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Taking penalties takes mental strength, nothing to do with how good player is otherwise. I am sure all professional players score almost all penalties on training but when the stakes are high it becomes a different story.

Lol.. The bad ones also miss at training as well, which is why they rarely make the top five takers in a PK shootout; they are chosen according on their training results.

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Quote from: Trofo on February 08, 2022, 04:00:44 AM

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Quote from: Trofo on February 08, 2022, 02:48:32 AM

Don't know why teams must give the list of penalty takers before they start. Why wouldn't they just take the penalties as situation demands. Ref can just write down each taker as he takes it so there is no double takers.

How can you not know or learn to know your team's good PK takers? How can you let them take it at random when the players already know who is good at PK and who isn't? Even if they take it at random, those who don't know how to take PK will always make room for the team's best takers. You should have a list of the top five takers and a list of the next best five in case the PK advances to the second round.

Of course you know. My point is that the list does not need to be given to referee. For instance Egypt knows their best taker is Salah and they can use him when they deem most necessary. This way he did not take the penalty since he was written as 5th, my way he would have taken let's say 3rd penalty when it started to go wrong.

we don't know what was going through Carlos Queiroz's mind so that he had to put Mohamed wrong to the last kick in the penalty shootout lineup even though many other teams put many of their main kickers at the start rather than having to be decisive in the penalty shootout process, and it was felt by Muhammad that it was wrong where he couldn't be an executor when there were so many failures made by Egyptian players in the high-fived drama, it should be an evaluation considering that of the 3 African cup penalty shootout dramas.Mohamed Salah only got one time. in the process

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Quote from: Marykeller on February 09, 2022, 11:02:30 AM

Your best guy can miss a penalty kick. A penalty kick is not about having your best guy take the first spot of the pk or the last spot pk. Anybody can miss a penalty. Even Messi and Ronaldo have all missed a pk when all hopes are on them to win a match through pk.
I don't believe that pk is best played by the best players.

Messi is nowhere near best penalty takers, he is just taking them to build up his personal stats and the team is going with it since he brings so much with his other qualities. I have a feeling Ronaldo is a bit better on penalties but I firmly believe he is the worst free kick taker in the world in the last couple of years

Check Matt Le Tissier stats for some really incredible numbers.

Taking penalties takes mental strength, nothing to do with how good player is otherwise. I am sure all professional players score almost all penalties on training but when the stakes are high it becomes a different story.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on February 08, 2022, 04:02:41 AM

Quote from: Trofo on February 08, 2022, 02:48:32 AM

Don't know why teams must give the list of penalty takers before they start. Why wouldn't they just take the penalties as situation demands. Ref can just write down each taker as he takes it so there is no double takers.

Yep, makes no sense at all.

Quote from: Igebotz on February 08, 2022, 03:50:59 AM

How can you not know or learn to know your team's good PK takers? How can you let them take it at random when the players already know who is good at PK and who isn't? Even if they take it at random, those who don't know how to take PK will always make room for the team's best takers. You should have a list of the top five takers and a list of the next best five in case the PK advances to the second round.

You know who your best takers are but if you miss the first 2 penalties you want your best guy to take the next one, and he is on the list you submitted on the 5th spot, meaning that he will probably not shoot at all. Or you have a lead already and the next penalty can be a winning one, you again want your best player to take that one.

Your best guy can miss a penalty kick. A penalty kick is not about having your best guy take the first spot of the pk or the last spot pk. Anybody can miss a penalty. Even Messi and Ronaldo have all missed a pk when all hopes are on them to win a match through pk.
I don't believe that pk is best played by the best players.

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Quote from: Igebotz on February 08, 2022, 12:51:40 PM

Salah was expected to make the game-winning kick; he's the team's most trusted and clinical penalty taker; he decided the Quarterfinal and Semifinal shootouts, and they were anticipating the same thing this time; but, penalty shootouts are always a 50-50 game.

Salah and the manager did everything they were intended to do, but things didn't go as planned.

Actually not really. He decided the Round of 16 game against Ivory Coast and then did not shoot against Cameroon in the semifinal - Cameroon missed 3 penalties and Egypt needed only 3 penalty takers. Their Quarter final game was Morocco - they won in overtime before the penalties.

He did not shoot again in the final so he took only 1 penalty in their 3 shootouts.

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Quote from: Trofo on February 08, 2022, 12:29:46 PM

Quote from: Igebotz on February 08, 2022, 05:45:42 AM

It makes no difference when he takes; we've seen situations where the first and last takers both missed it, and how confident are you that Salah would have scored? There will always be that one person who ruins the team. GK, not the players, usually decides who wins. The PK taker list is strategically designed so that if the first person mess up, the second person cannot make a mistake, which is why you rarely see a team make two consecutive double misses.

I have no clue if Salah would have scored but I am sure both he and his manager were expecting him to take a penalty. My way would allow for "best" penalty takers to almost always have opportunity to take the most demanding penalty. GK are learning about opposition players before the match so the list does not matter to them. When he sees who is taking the kick he just adjusts to that.

Salah was expected to make the game-winning kick; he's the team's most trusted and clinical penalty taker; he decided the Quarterfinal and Semifinal shootouts, and they were anticipating the same thing this time; but, penalty shootouts are always a 50-50 game.

Salah and the manager did everything they were intended to do, but things didn't go as planned.

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