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For instance Egypt knows their best taker is Salah and they can use him when they deem most necessary. This way he did not take the penalty since he was written as 5th, my way he would have taken let's say 3rd penalty when it started to go wrong.
It makes no difference when he takes; we've seen situations where the first and last takers both missed it, and how confident are you that Salah would have scored? There will always be that one person who ruins the team. GK, not the players, usually decides who wins. The PK taker list is strategically designed so that if the first person mess up, the second person cannot make a mistake, which is why you rarely see a team make two consecutive double misses.
I have no clue if Salah would have scored but I am sure both he and his manager were expecting him to take a penalty. My way would allow for "best" penalty takers to almost always have opportunity to take the most demanding penalty. GK are learning about opposition players before the match so the list does not matter to them. When he sees who is taking the kick he just adjusts to that.
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For instance Egypt knows their best taker is Salah and they can use him when they deem most necessary. This way he did not take the penalty since he was written as 5th, my way he would have taken let's say 3rd penalty when it started to go wrong.
It makes no difference when he takes; we've seen situations where the first and last takers both missed it, and how confident are you that Salah would have scored? There will always be that one person who ruins the team. GK, not the players, usually decides who wins. The PK taker list is strategically designed so that if the first person mess up, the second person cannot make a mistake, which is why you rarely see a team make two consecutive double misses.

agree, that giving the list is probably not the best tactics
but, having decision one-by-one could add pressure to takers and coach as well, since you need to think before each penalty who will take it, and this could add tension to the team as well
Another disadvantage of not keeping a list of PK takers, and another reasons why submitting a list is a good idea, is that the GK will have a better understanding of who is taking the penalty.
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You know who your best takers are but if you miss the first 2 penalties you want your best guy to take the next one, and he is on the list you submitted on the 5th spot, meaning that he will probably not shoot at all. Or you have a lead already and the next penalty can be a winning one, you again want your best player to take that one.

agree, that giving the list is probably not the best tactics
but, having decision one-by-one could add pressure to takers and coach as well, since you need to think before each penalty who will take it, and this could add tension to the team as well (maybe not in situation where you have one star, as Salah in Egypt, but think about Ronaldo and Bruno in Manchester United, and coach that have to decide before the penalty, when things go wrong (would be interesting to watch))

nevertheless, it would be too much to win over with three penalty roulette
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Don't know why teams must give the list of penalty takers before they start. Why wouldn't they just take the penalties as situation demands. Ref can just write down each taker as he takes it so there is no double takers.

Yep, makes no sense at all.

How can you not know or learn to know your team's good PK takers? How can you let them take it at random when the players already know who is good at PK and who isn't? Even if they take it at random, those who don't know how to take PK will always make room for the team's best takers. You should have a list of the top five takers and a list of the next best five in case the PK advances to the second round.

You know who your best takers are but if you miss the first 2 penalties you want your best guy to take the next one, and he is on the list you submitted on the 5th spot, meaning that he will probably not shoot at all. Or you have a lead already and the next penalty can be a winning one, you again want your best player to take that one.
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Don't know why teams must give the list of penalty takers before they start. Why wouldn't they just take the penalties as situation demands. Ref can just write down each taker as he takes it so there is no double takers.
How can you not know or learn to know your team's good PK takers? How can you let them take it at random when the players already know who is good at PK and who isn't? Even if they take it at random, those who don't know how to take PK will always make room for the team's best takers. You should have a list of the top five takers and a list of the next best five in case the PK advances to the second round.
Of course you know. My point is that the list does not need to be given to referee. For instance Egypt knows their best taker is Salah and they can use him when they deem most necessary. This way he did not take the penalty since he was written as 5th, my way he would have taken let's say 3rd penalty when it started to go wrong.
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Don't know why teams must give the list of penalty takers before they start. Why wouldn't they just take the penalties as situation demands. Ref can just write down each taker as he takes it so there is no double takers.
How can you not know or learn to know your team's good PK takers? How can you let them take it at random when the players already know who is good at PK and who isn't? Even if they take it at random, those who don't know how to take PK will always make room for the team's best takers. You should have a list of the top five takers and a list of the next best five in case the PK advances to the second round.
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As usual, he wanted to be in the spotlight, and he always wanted to be the one that came in and went out as your best manager. Penalty takers must either be the first to take to boost team confidence or the last to take to determine the final kick. My finest taker will be the final taker if I become a manager.

I understand the spotlight - but it is also important to be able to get the chance to be in the spotlight.

My best shooter would probably shoot as either number 3 or 4, I understand the argument to have him as a 1st as well but there are always at least 2-3 good takers in any team so the 1st taker can usually be a good taker without the need for him to be your main man.

Egypt went to penalties 3 times in this year's AFCON, Salah took only 1 penalty. That one was a winning one though.
Don't know why teams must give the list of penalty takers before they start. Why wouldn't they just take the penalties as situation demands. Ref can just write down each taker as he takes it so there is no double takers.
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As usual, he wanted to be in the spotlight, and he always wanted to be the one that came in and went out as your best manager. Penalty takers must either be the first to take to boost team confidence or the last to take to determine the final kick. My finest taker will be the final taker if I become a manager.

I understand the spotlight - but it is also important to be able to get the chance to be in the spotlight.

My best shooter would probably shoot as either number 3 or 4, I understand the argument to have him as a 1st as well but there are always at least 2-3 good takers in any team so the 1st taker can usually be a good taker without the need for him to be your main man.

Egypt went to penalties 3 times in this year's AFCON, Salah took only 1 penalty. That one was a winning one though.
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Wow, my shirts pack from the MM will never get old- congratulations to the TOP 3 and CLS63

Thank u so much  Cheesy
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Salah paid the price of being the 5th penalty kick taker, I would never choose my best taker to be last. Yes, if it comes to the 5th, you want your best guy there - but too often it doesn't because someone who is a worse taker screws up before that.
As usual, he wanted to be in the spotlight, and he always wanted to be the one that came in and went out as your best manager. Penalty takers must either be the first to take to boost team confidence or the last to take to determine the final kick. My finest taker will be the final taker if I become a manager.


nevertheless, in the end finished 2nd in the leader-board, 0,5 points below CLS63, did not expect that, but forcing 0:0 on Egypt pushed me up
Only three users got the 0-0 right and I glad I ended my pool with a 3 points and a Hat( don't know how that go on my head lol.

edit: just got info from Steve, it will be a Arsenal/Southampton shirt for top3 in the competiton

Wow, my shirts pack from the MM will never get old- congratulations to the TOP 3 and CLS63


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Noted!!! I will get through to CLS63 as promised. Thank you trofo
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but forcing 0:0 on Egypt pushed me up
That same 0:0 pick from my side was also enough to propel me into free bet territory and give me another 50$ free bet in 4-3 promo. Needed something like this to make my AFCON balance closer to the green.

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Did we really expect a different game? I did, and was disappointed. All the same, watched everything to the end. It just had to go to penalties, Mane will forever wish he put his one in early on. But still, Egypt's penalty luck finally ran out.

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yeah, this game was expected
it is interesting that penalty came on same minute as Morocco game, maybe Egyptian are lacking stability in minute 7, and that is it, after that you cannot score against them in kick-out matches (Morocco used penalty, Senegal did not, but Morocco lost in the end, and Senegal won, irony?)

nevertheless, in the end finished 2nd in the leader-board, 0,5 points below CLS63, did not expect that, but forcing 0:0 on Egypt pushed me up

edit: just got info from Steve, it will be a Arsenal/Southampton shirt for top3 in the competiton
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I think Senegal are worthy winners of this year's AFCON. Although they were slow in the group phase (goal difference 1-0 in 3 games), they were really good in the knockouts and were a better team in the final as well.

I'm really happy for Mane - he scored the winning penalty after missing the one in regular time and has won the Player of the tournament award.
Salah paid the price of being the 5th penalty kick taker, I would never choose my best taker to be last. Yes, if it comes to the 5th, you want your best guy there - but too often it doesn't because someone who is a worse taker screws up before that.
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group stage was a borefest, half of the Round-of-16 was fine, but after that it's been really entertaining... and we've got one of the "dreams final", Senegal v Egypt, Mane v Salah, arguably the two biggest stars in african football. all in all, 8/10 tournament for me, hope we see an epic final tonight... would not mind if the game goes to the penalty shootout tho, the more dramatic the finale, the better  Grin

Dream final indeed, and dream result for Senegal and neutrals, I was counting on Egypt to replenish my Sportsbet balance but I guess it means I have to deposit this week  Grin

I agree too, I am happy with finals that go to penalties, longer action and longer drama. I just wish these big finals do not happen in the evening, which is like at 4am for me,,,

@Trofo my Sportsbet username is almost same as here (leea1334 without the dash). I do not mind people seeing it here in public,,, since it would be difficult to hide there anyway on Clubhouse Talk  Cheesy
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Did we really expect a different game? I did, and was disappointed. All the same, watched everything to the end. It just had to go to penalties, Mane will forever wish he put his one in early on. But still, Egypt's penalty luck finally ran out.

Well done to me for winning the outright =p Senegal have their first ever!

And aye guys, thanks to sponsor and admin for putting this together. A nice bonus to have that we really didn't deserve, and a great addition to the forum itself. Thanks hugely, and keep them coming! Gentlemen, I enjoyed everything we had here.

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Senegal will definitely win this match because they will not joke with their opportunity to defeat Egypt 2:0 to win  this AFCON title 2022. The both team has performed wonders in this tournament that made them to qualify for final.
Salah need to play well to make his fans believe he so much in this final battle. But Senegal goal keeper will do everything possible to make sure their team imagine winner.
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There is 0.5 mBTC free bet for first 10. First 3 will get something more, not 100% sure what so I would appreciate if you guys drop here and let us know. I hear there could be some merchandise involved as well.


thanks for this tournament, it is almost free free-bet, considering total number of participants
nevertheless, I am still in for top three, if finish in, will drop here what the prize is

regarding final, not sure that I will watch it, have something to work-on and maybe will just put play in the background, but after all I will be with Egypt tonight, not sure why, both teams played on under goals until now and defensively
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Thank you for your good wishes @tomahawk9 and @buwaytress. Even though I wasn't able to collect the amount of points I expected in the Premier League, the AFCON has been really good for me. And I would like to thank @Trofo who has created this pool and our sponsor sportsbet.io also. Tonight, the winner of the pool is going to be determined by the result of the final game. Good luck @Harkorede.

It's been one a hell of a tournament, and you never know what to expect, but It was a real good competition in the pool from start to finish..

Not the competition we all expected at first, but the pool competition made it look interesting and entertaining. I started to lose interest when Nigeria was knocked out, so I only watched a few matches, but the competition ends today, and it was well worth watching!

Between Harkorede and CLS63, today's game will determine who wins the Pool.

Hey man, I need your Sportsbet username for the awards, please send it to me over pm. Same goes for @leea-1334, @LFC_Bitcoin, @igehh and @darbit. Rest of you I should have from before. If you send it tonight I believe you could have free bets on the account tomorrow.

Thank you trofo and Sportsbet.io for a fantastic tournament; I was thrilled to be a member of the Sportsbet family once more, and I'm sorry I wasn't able to participate in the other pools; this was fantastic!
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Thank you for your good wishes @tomahawk9 and @buwaytress. Even though I wasn't able to collect the amount of points I expected in the Premier League, the AFCON has been really good for me. And I would like to thank @Trofo who has created this pool and our sponsor sportsbet.io also. Tonight, the winner of the pool is going to be determined by the result of the final game. Good luck @Harkorede.
Hey man, I need your Sportsbet username for the awards, please send it to me over pm. Same goes for @leea-1334, @LFC_Bitcoin, @igehh and @darbit. Rest of you I should have from before. If you send it tonight I believe you could have free bets on the account tomorrow.

There is 0.5 mBTC free bet for first 10. First 3 will get something more, not 100% sure what so I would appreciate if you guys drop here and let us know. I hear there could be some merchandise involved as well.

Always glad to run these pools. They are so much fun and more that worth the effort for me. Hope to catch you all in the La Liga and Serie A next season.
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