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Just confirming if there was any update for the deadline to buy in?
I will be interested in joining and will come around to this in a couple of days, so want to be sure what my eligibility status would be.

If I join after the tourney starts, will my predictions be moved over to the pool as usual?

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This is a bit shorter tournament that usual leagues. I can tolerate a small delay but I would prefer if everyone joins before first game kicks off. One week in tournament like this is 1/4 of the competition. If it is about payment we can always agree on something, either I pay for you or you pay with small delay but promise to play before the deadline.
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- Jay -
Just confirming if there was any update for the deadline to buy in?
I will be interested in joining and will come around to this in a couple of days, so want to be sure what my eligibility status would be.

If I join after the tourney starts, will my predictions be moved over to the pool as usual?

- Jay -
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Whenever an Asian team other than Japan and South Korea plays an African team I assume you'll give me odds of over 2 on Asian team to win, correct?
For example, Australia - Mozambique. Or Iran - Tanzania. Saudi Arabia - Angola?

Really can't wait to bet on these things against you.

Lol. You stated that your Asian teams are superior to African teams, yet you are requesting for an handicap betting. This was all I needed to hear.

Well, jokes aside, Asian football is gaining popularity, and several of its stars, such as Son, Mitoma, and Heew Chan, are also leading their respective clubs in Europe.




Anyway! Back to AFCON. I want Salah to win so Egypt it is. I just hope they actually play football this time!

Deep down in your heart you will be praying he got eliminated early to return back to your title running campaign. Don't Jinx it.

@Harkorede - DSTV will not broadcast AFCON, hope you guys are happy now? Subscribing to a fraudulent TV service.
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Got you Igebotz. Just having a go at you, I know what you mean but I do think you slightly underestimate watchability of football in Asia.

Anyway! Back to AFCON. I want Salah to win so Egypt it is. I just hope they actually play football this time!

Also, adding to Trofo's offer to help with payments from Woodie, anyone who has trouble making BTC or USDT payments before the tourney starts, I'm willing to consider almost any other option, on almost any network. Just DM me to work something out, I can easily pay upfront on behalf for any veteran pool, forum, or Sportsbet user. Membership has its privileges.
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I wonder why this pool has stayed under my radar considering am in the know with Sportsbet sponsored contest's thanks to the announcements and invites but this one almost  passed me Tongue

Anyway whats the last day of payments... and I know you said prizes can only be determined depending on pool size but roughly depending on attendance how is the pot likely to be shared??

And @cro2 from my Newcastle-UEFA prize $$ can that be put here as my entry fee , **hoping  for a yes** Grin
For share of the prizes check my La liga or Serie A pools. It will be somewhere on the line on those percentages. Maybe 5 paid spots with no.1 getting a big chunk 30-45%. Really though to work it out before I know how many people will play.

Unfortunately we can't use your Newcastle prize to pay the pot directly since it will be sent too late but if you don't have other nice ways to pay for it. Contact me in the PM and I will pay for you and later deduct that 1 mBTC from your reward and add it to mine.
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I wonder why this pool has stayed under my radar considering am in the know with Sportsbet sponsored contest's thanks to the announcements and invites but this one almost  passed me Tongue

Anyway whats the last day of payments... and I know you said prizes can only be determined depending on pool size but roughly depending on attendance how is the pot likely to be shared??

And @cro2 from my Newcastle-UEFA prize $$ can that be put here as my entry fee , **hoping  for a yes** Grin

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Comparing the Scottish and South African leagues to some random Asian leagues is a heinous crime. With a gun to my head, I can name more than ten Scottish and South African clubs, along with their star players and upcoming fixtures. The same cannot be said for the most popular Asian league (China).

You do understand I wasn't comparing that, right? For a sheriff, you should pay more attention.

You said Asian Cup isn't interesting enough to be there, I said that they have Scottish league and South Africa one.
I am sure that the Asian Cup will have a bigger audience than Scottish Prem - I was not speaking about the local leagues of Vietnam and Singapore, but the biggest Asian football tournament.

Only South Korea and Japan can compete with Cape Verde, and for the record, Cape Verde is one of Africa's worst football nations.

Whenever an Asian team other than Japan and South Korea plays an African team I assume you'll give me odds of over 2 on Asian team to win, correct?
For example, Australia - Mozambique. Or Iran - Tanzania. Saudi Arabia - Angola?

Really can't wait to bet on these things against you.
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But fan culture and passion? You have to recognise football in our unknown corner of the world is at least as big and passionate as in Europe.

I never said the fans ultra chants ain't good enough, I was only trying to make a point that the Asians are more into athletic sports, cricket and baseball and not much into football. They are good at what they do.

I must admit I am not watching African football and while they have some top talent those matches I watched almost always leave me disappointed. There were so many poor games and tactical errors in last AFCON, I really hope this one will be much better.

The last edition was the only boring AFCON with less goals because it was played under horrible conditions, as I have explained, so you can't use it as a benchmark. There is no top European team without a top African player; the biggest issue in African football is corruption, as well as the poor condition of most stadiums, which makes some matches unwatchable. Only a few African countries have nice and standard stadiums; the most are dreadful.

Who are you guys supporting for the AFCON trophy?
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How to participant in for AFCON 2024 prediction? I have pick Morocco is favorite team for winning AFCON regarding their performance in World Cup 2022, indeed have Egypt with Mohamad Salah and Victor Osimhen with Nigeria I think Morocco have more solid composition for winning AFCON 2022. Lets me know with rule and how to participants if our favorite national teams lead until semifinal or final stage but not be the winner will get chance to win this event or not?

Many controversial with AFCON 2024 hold on the early years when competition have many busy matches, Napoli and Liverpool have losses their favorite players but all teams have already with plan B when main players get injury or playing with their national teams.
Read the OP first. All important info is there.

I did not expect to see somebody completely new to our pools so here is some more info that isn't mentioned in the pools. I can see English is not your first language so maybe someone from your local can help you even more if necessary.

All the predictions are done on Superbru site and we are predicting correct scores in all AFCON games. 3 points for correct score, 1 point for ML and 1.5 points for close score. It is all explained on Superbru site in more detail. Your chance to actually win something is depending on how good all other participants here do as well. You can sign up to Superbru and see how it looks than later on if you decide to join, send me a pm with tx confirmation and I will send you the link to our pool.
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How to participant in for AFCON 2024 prediction? I have pick Morocco is favorite team for winning AFCON regarding their performance in World Cup 2022, indeed have Egypt with Mohamad Salah and Victor Osimhen with Nigeria I think Morocco have more solid composition for winning AFCON 2022. Lets me know with rule and how to participants if our favorite national teams lead until semifinal or final stage but not be the winner will get chance to win this event or not?

Many controversial with AFCON 2024 hold on the early years when competition have many busy matches, Napoli and Liverpool have losses their favorite players but all teams have already with plan B when main players get injury or playing with their national teams.
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Only South Korea and Japan can compete with Cape Verde, and for the record, Cape Verde is one of Africa's worst football nations.
Not gonna comment for the rest but Japan is a top team and I would watch them over any African team anytime. They play just the kind of football I like and are in top form at the moment. They were freely scoring against many top European countries and they have much better tactical awareness then African teams.

I must admit I am not watching African football and while they have some top talent those matches I watched almost always leave me disappointed. There were so many poor games and tactical errors in last AFCON, I really hope this one will be much better.
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exactly this, because there is probably more fan based money in Women Premier league than in whole Asian leagues combined, with players included
Scottish also, I know almost all clubs in top4 Scottish divisions, and would have hard time to list 10 teams from whole Asia, South Korea and Japan excluded

not sure about South Africa, but it is commonwealth as well, so probably that is the reason (or Superbru founders have some connections there, and that would explain AFCON as well)

Comparing the Scottish and South African leagues to some random Asian leagues is a heinous crime. With a gun to my head, I can name more than ten Scottish and South African clubs, along with their star players and upcoming fixtures. The same cannot be said for the most popular Asian league (China).

I agree it doesn't make sense businesswise but many people including myself believe Iran vs Palestine is more interesting than Ghana v Cape Verde, sorry but it may be more commercial but our football is more exciting Tongue

Only South Korea and Japan can compete with Cape Verde, and for the record, Cape Verde is one of Africa's worst football nations.

Edit: buwatress I will reply you shortly, didn't see your post. I'm driving.
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@slaman29 @Igetbotz I just felt I had to comment haha. I speak of Southeast Asia, only because that's where I'm from and most familiar with. I agree with Slam I lived/worked for years in South Asia (India, PK, Afghan, Sri Lanka) and cricket is 100 times bigger there than football. They play games in cricket stadiums and hockey stadiums, and even now the Indian league is struggling with attendances. These guys who do watch football don't play it, and support European teams.

In defence of AFC football:

Yes
Football quality and commercial value in Southeast Asia is probably among the worst in the world. No one plays professionally, salaries are often below minimum wage and development is bottom priority. In my state, literacy is at a record high 50%, we still have more than half the population only reachable by river or air, health is shit, so you get where financial priorities are (not sports).

Yes
Most people outside of Even in the biggest football nation of Indonesia, where you have probably 20 big teams, they will only dream of a regional appearance to meet the bigwigs of East Asia and Middle East in AFC Cup, so of course you'll never hear about these teams. Also because AFC (to include Australasia) is the lowest-funded of all the football associations, they simply don't broadcast internationally.

However, I have to disagree about passion and fan base @Igetboz

Scottish and South Africa league are B class leagues with real fans base. None of the Asian league are on the C level.

South Africa's league is biggest on the continent and one of the biggest in the world, with a greater fans base. Football is not an Asian culture; they are only now starting to feel relevant and are paying outrageous amounts to recruit players and supporters.

I'm from Borneo, where there are 3 countries, and football is probably the worst quality but I grew up watching football every week with my family (yes, even mom and sisters but mainly with dad, granddad, classmates). Our city only had 150k people but stadium capacity of 10k was filled beyond belief every match, even though we were shit. In 1999 we got to our only cup final played abroad against Brunei. But everyone who could afford it took planes or even 3-day ferry trips to see it. That night, we lost, but I remember the entire game. 100% local lads who never left the country vs a squad who had import European players. The stadium was filled, people were camping outside, riot police were busy all night, the match ended and everyone was just brawling with police haha.

Later in life, I understood these were the ultras. And Southeast Asian ultras have been around since at least the 1970s, this is when most nations became independent. You have to understand that 10 nations in SEA all warred with each other for centuries, before they all warred against Europe and US (as colonial powers). Unlike the Second World War, our civil wars etc wasn't fought too long ago. Our parents went to war, most of us in my generation have decorated war vets as uncles and dads. So when we play football with each other, so much rivalry and national pride was at stake.

You lived in Southeast Asia @Igebotz, I'm surprised you didn't experience our ultras. Indonesia has the "best" -- Malaysia and Thailand,has pretty loud contingents who travel.

Malaysia-India 2 months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxdN3QyjrYI
Bali United (Indonesia), I had the pleasure attending a game in 2014 but this is a recent video: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_KfwWusE9Rw

I realise Youtube has so few videos but you have to really be there. The electric, the noise, the smell of sweat and piss haha.

All this for teams who know they will never see fame on the international stage. Indonesia has been for years the most dangerous football scene in the world (yes, even beating our friends in South America).

Watch this one, Jakarta's most famous ultras: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gprXc_gBmg. They are so rabid they collect fees from members and are their club's main sponsors! These even have women ultras, and are playing in 2nd division! These are not "Real fan base" enough for you?

I know Algerian and Morocco ultras are the best (I love their chants too) but these are guys who will regularly see good regional and international football, with pretty good coverage. I really think you're doing Asian football a disservice. Yes it's low quality. Yes even the pitches are like cow farms when it rains. Yes it's shit.

But fan culture and passion? You have to recognise football in our unknown corner of the world is at least as big and passionate as in Europe.
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Well, surely, if Asian Cup isn't even on Superbru it complicates things too much.
It was just an idea, considering that the last few Asian Cups were more interesting (football-wise) than AFCON.

Man Superbru is a business, and they are not going to put a bunch of low-interest tournaments on their website. Nobody who cares about football is watching the match between Iran and Palestine.

I agree it doesn't make sense businesswise but many people including myself believe Iran vs Palestine is more interesting than Ghana v Cape Verde, sorry but it may be more commercial but our football is more exciting Tongue

You seem to have read my mind, no doubt the Asians are among the most active users here, but how many of them are part of an active pool?  How many of them actually watch football or talk about it? Only a small fraction of Asians watch football, and half of those who do are not members of Bitcointalk. I've been in Asia, so I'm more familiar with the culture. But it unfair to not have the competition on Superbru at least.

Trofo - Girona and ATM ruined my ticket last night, I should have gone with BTS. Deduct from my signature payment if I don't send in USDT before pay day.

Yes, I think I was the only one who 'complained' about timezone issues of promotions in SB and other casinos. All others from my area in general don't contribute. I know I'm gambling minority so I accept it, therefore favor Afcon. At least Africa timezone is couple hours earlier than UK, so I can watch many games.

Asian football is big but excluding South (India, Pakistan etc) and I think middleclass only watch foreign football. Numbers wise though its actually even bigger than many Europe countries.

Last one was so boring though I watched almost all Egypt games but my god, not even Salah can light it up.
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Yup, that's why they have A-League, Scottish Premiership, South Africa league and women's Prem.

exactly this, because there is probably more fan based money in Women Premier league than in whole Asian leagues combined, with players included
Scottish also, I know almost all clubs in top4 Scottish divisions, and would have hard time to list 10 teams from whole Asia, South Korea and Japan excluded

not sure about South Africa, but it is commonwealth as well, so probably that is the reason (or Superbru founders have some connections there, and that would explain AFCON as well)
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Man Superbru is a business, and they are not going to put a bunch of low-interest tournaments on their website. Nobody who cares about football is watching the match between Iran and Palestine. It will be nothing more than supporters using it as a platform to play politics as usual.

CAF increased the AFCON prize by 40% to $7m


Yup, that's why they have A-League, Scottish Premiership, South Africa league and women's Prem. Cause everybody wants to watch Dundee - Motherwell and Swallows - Golden Arrows.

I understand it's not that significant, but top Asian teams can easily go head to head with the top african ones. We don't need to play it, they don't need to have it, but you make it sound like it's way worse than it is.

Scottish and South Africa league are B class leagues with real fans base. None of the Asian league are on the C level.

South Africa's league is biggest on the continent and one of the biggest in the world, with a greater fans base. Football is not an Asian culture; they are only now starting to feel relevant and are paying outrageous amounts to recruit players and supporters.

Top Asian clubs? Who are they ?
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Man Superbru is a business, and they are not going to put a bunch of low-interest tournaments on their website. Nobody who cares about football is watching the match between Iran and Palestine. It will be nothing more than supporters using it as a platform to play politics as usual.

CAF increased the AFCON prize by 40% to $7m

Yup, that's why they have A-League, Scottish Premiership, South Africa league and women's Prem. Cause everybody wants to watch Dundee - Motherwell and Swallows - Golden Arrows.

I understand it's not that significant, but top Asian teams can easily go head to head with the top african ones. We don't need to play it, they don't need to have it, but you make it sound like it's way worse than it is.
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Depending on Osimhen's performance it wouldn't be a surprise for me if Nigeria progress until the finale this year. I don't think Senegal have the same power from 2 years ago. Especially after Senegal's star Mane left Liverpool his performance declined quite much.

I made my payment in USDT and sent the txid by PM.
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Well, surely, if Asian Cup isn't even on Superbru it complicates things too much.
It was just an idea, considering that the last few Asian Cups were more interesting (football-wise) than AFCON.

I hope AFCON turns out good this year, there are too many good players there for it to be so boring.

Man Superbru is a business, and they are not going to put a bunch of low-interest tournaments on their website. Nobody who cares about football is watching the match between Iran and Palestine. It will be nothing more than supporters using it as a platform to play politics as usual.

CAF increased the AFCON prize by 40% to $7m
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Well, surely, if Asian Cup isn't even on Superbru it complicates things too much.
It was just an idea, considering that the last few Asian Cups were more interesting (football-wise) than AFCON.

I hope AFCON turns out good this year, there are too many good players there for it to be so boring.

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