@slaman29 @Igetbotz I just felt I had to comment haha. I speak of Southeast Asia, only because that's where I'm from and most familiar with. I agree with Slam I lived/worked for years in South Asia (India, PK, Afghan, Sri Lanka) and cricket is 100 times bigger there than football. They play games in cricket stadiums and hockey stadiums, and even now the Indian league is struggling with attendances. These guys who do watch football don't play it, and support European teams.
In defence of AFC football:
YesFootball quality and commercial value in Southeast Asia is probably among the worst in the world. No one plays professionally, salaries are often below minimum wage and development is bottom priority. In my state, literacy is at a record high 50%, we still have more than half the population only reachable by river or air, health is shit, so you get where financial priorities are (not sports).
YesMost people outside of Even in the biggest football nation of Indonesia, where you have probably 20 big teams, they will only dream of a regional appearance to meet the bigwigs of East Asia and Middle East in AFC Cup, so of course you'll never hear about these teams. Also because AFC (to include Australasia) is the lowest-funded of all the football associations, they simply don't broadcast internationally.
However, I have to disagree about passion and fan base @Igetboz
Scottish and South Africa league are B class leagues with real fans base. None of the Asian league are on the C level.
South Africa's league is biggest on the continent and one of the biggest in the world, with a greater fans base. Football is not an Asian culture; they are only now starting to feel relevant and are paying outrageous amounts to recruit players and supporters.
I'm from Borneo, where there are 3 countries, and football is probably the worst quality but I grew up watching football every week with my family (yes, even mom and sisters but mainly with dad, granddad, classmates). Our city only had 150k people but stadium capacity of 10k was filled beyond belief every match, even though we were shit. In 1999 we got to our only cup final played abroad against Brunei. But everyone who could afford it took planes or even 3-day ferry trips to see it. That night, we lost, but I remember the entire game. 100% local lads who never left the country vs a squad who had import European players. The stadium was filled, people were camping outside, riot police were busy all night, the match ended and everyone was just brawling with police haha.
Later in life, I understood these were the ultras. And Southeast Asian ultras have been around since at least the 1970s, this is when most nations became independent. You have to understand that 10 nations in SEA all warred with each other for centuries, before they all warred against Europe and US (as colonial powers). Unlike the Second World War, our civil wars etc wasn't fought too long ago. Our parents went to war, most of us in my generation have decorated war vets as uncles and dads. So when we play football with each other, so much rivalry and national pride was at stake.
You lived in Southeast Asia @Igebotz, I'm surprised you didn't experience our ultras. Indonesia has the "best" -- Malaysia and Thailand,has pretty loud contingents who travel.
Malaysia-India 2 months ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxdN3QyjrYIBali United (Indonesia), I had the pleasure attending a game in 2014 but this is a recent video:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_KfwWusE9RwI realise Youtube has so few videos but you have to really be there. The electric, the noise, the smell of sweat and piss haha.
All this for teams who know they will never see fame on the international stage. Indonesia has been for years the most dangerous football scene in the world (yes, even beating our friends in South America).
Watch this one, Jakarta's most famous ultras:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gprXc_gBmg. They are so rabid they collect fees from members and are their club's main sponsors! These even have women ultras, and are playing in 2nd division! These are not "Real fan base" enough for you?
I know Algerian and Morocco ultras are the best (I love their chants too) but these are guys who will regularly see good regional and international football, with pretty good coverage. I really think you're doing Asian football a disservice. Yes it's low quality. Yes even the pitches are like cow farms when it rains. Yes it's shit.
But fan culture and passion? You have to recognise football in our unknown corner of the world is at least as big and passionate as in Europe.