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Quote from: CLS63 on November 06, 2024, 08:49:02 AM

It is now very difficult for Ferrari to catch McLaren because they performed very badly in the last race, but I still think Ferrari has a chance for the championship. Perez has been very bad for two seasons, and this is probably his last season in F1.

Yeah, Ferrari still have a chance, but it's very little.
If we talk about last season in F1, it looks that it may be last season in F1 for Bottas. Today Sauber confirmed 2025 driver lineup with F2 champion Gabriel Bortoleto and Nico Hulkenberg, it means that Bottas and Zhou Guanyu ends without seat in F1. Only Racing Bulls didn't confirmed their second driver. And most likely Perez is out too, but they're not interested in Bottas.
Will miss him in F1. Hulkenber is good driver for mediacore team, but personally I would choose Bottas over him. For the first time since 1989 there won't be driver from Finland in F1

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Quote from: LTU_btc on November 05, 2024, 03:49:20 PM

If we talk about drivers championship, only miracle can help Norris. 62 points difference with 3 races and 1 sprint remaining. Max have to end without points maybe at least twice, and Norris needs wins for such miracle. Now I'm just wondering how realistic his chances would be if not that win that he gave away to Piastri.
About constructors championship, I don't believe that Red Bull can reach Ferrari. Verstappen just can't carry whole team alone, he needs help from Perez. But Checo doesn't looks capable to do anything.

It is now very difficult for Ferrari to catch McLaren because they performed very badly in the last race, but I still think Ferrari has a chance for the championship. Perez has been very bad for two seasons, and this is probably his last season in F1.

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Quote from: darbitmobilerecovery on November 05, 2024, 01:37:52 PM

What do you gonna think if you are a Mclaren owner and you see how for minor bad decission you ended up losing the drivers championship and also the constrcutor championship when you have enought car to win both of them?.

I know someone is gonna say, "well at the start of the season this was not even in our horizon" and i take it, but if you recall some mistakes mades by the team and both drivers..... seems very diferent.

Is like this situations where you have to look the empty half or the full half.

This is the plain truth and very hard for McLaren to have thrown it away in some key moments I am willing to remind here and despite everyone saying Piastri is a good team mate he is not, he may be a good driver but not a good team mate. First it starts at Hungary where Lando paid the price of the McLaren mechanics error by giving the first place to Piastri (never understood why, maybe McLaren wanted to tell Piastri he is not a second driver as we have not a second driver in the team) and there it started all. Second we come to Monza soon after where an attack from Piastri to Lando costed Lando a lot of points lost here and we come to this final error of this very race where Piastri is not at fault but McLaren team is, they were the most stupid team to not notice that it was reading VSC ending in all big monitors and that costed them the race. All credit due to Max as he is alone at Redbull and Redbull is winning only thanks to his driving skills but this season is lost by McLaren in the drivers rather than Redbull winning it.

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Quote from: notblox1 on November 05, 2024, 01:59:11 PM

Quote from: CLS63 on November 05, 2024, 11:09:50 AM

Mathematically, Max Verstappen is not yet the champion, but I still think he can be. Even if Verstappen scores 0 points in the remaining 3 races, I don’t believe Norris will be able to gather enough points to overtake him.

I am not sure about that, but it is going to be much more interesting in next races if Norris manages to win races.
They are not competing only for individual titles, but also for constructor titles and McLaren with Ferrari is ahead of team Red Bull.
That means that Verstappen have to take more risks to win points, in last race it paid off but it is a risky game to play.

McLaren 593 pts
Ferrari 557 pts
Red Bull 544 pts

If we talk about drivers championship, only miracle can help Norris. 62 points difference with 3 races and 1 sprint remaining. Max have to end without points maybe at least twice, and Norris needs wins for such miracle. Now I'm just wondering how realistic his chances would be if not that win that he gave away to Piastri.
About constructors championship, I don't believe that Red Bull can reach Ferrari. Verstappen just can't carry whole team alone, he needs help from Perez. But Checo doesn't looks capable to do anything.

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Before the race began, I couldn’t have imagined Max Verstappen winning, but he delivered an epic performance in the rain. There are only 3 races left in the season. I can say this year has been much more thrilling than the last two. I’m still holding onto my second place in the pool, but hsh1 is still right behind me with 11.5 points.

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Quote from: CLS63 on November 05, 2024, 11:09:50 AM

Mathematically, Max Verstappen is not yet the champion, but I still think he can be. Even if Verstappen scores 0 points in the remaining 3 races, I don’t believe Norris will be able to gather enough points to overtake him.

I am not sure about that, but it is going to be much more interesting in next races if Norris manages to win races.
They are not competing only for individual titles, but also for constructor titles and McLaren with Ferrari is ahead of team Red Bull.
That means that Verstappen have to take more risks to win points, in last race it paid off but it is a risky game to play.

McLaren 593 pts
Ferrari 557 pts
Red Bull 544 pts

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What do you gonna think if you are a Mclaren owner and you see how for minor bad decission you ended up losing the drivers championship and also the constrcutor championship when you have enought car to win both of them?.

I know someone is gonna say, "well at the start of the season this was not even in our horizon" and i take it, but if you recall some mistakes mades by the team and both drivers..... seems very diferent.

Is like this situations where you have to look the empty half or the full half.

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Quote from: notblox1 on November 04, 2024, 04:27:15 PM

Are you sure about that?

Mathematically, Max Verstappen is not yet the champion, but I still think he can be. Even if Verstappen scores 0 points in the remaining 3 races, I don’t believe Norris will be able to gather enough points to overtake him.

Quote from: goodpunt on November 05, 2024, 03:36:25 AM

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and a question regarding the highest yellow cap points prize since there are currently three of us with 20.5 points will there be a tiebreaker or will it be shared between all three if nobody tops the current score?

If the pool concludes like this the prize is going to be shared among 3 people.

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Quote from: jeremypwr on November 03, 2024, 01:59:06 PM

Congrats to goodpunt for winning the São Paulo Grand Prix Yellow Cap @ Superbru and the São Paulo GP Challenge

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Quote from: CLS63 on November 04, 2024, 12:20:28 PM

Also, congratulations to goodpunt for his double win!

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and a question regarding the highest yellow cap points prize since there are currently three of us with 20.5 points will there be a tiebreaker or will it be shared between all three if nobody tops the current score?

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Verstappen Champion!
He was like a gazelle all these races previous waiting for the opportunity to secure his 3.5th world championship.

The race director had a tough time... I think he helped a few and hurt many with his decisions... but it's part of the game, right?

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Quote from: CLS63 on November 04, 2024, 12:20:28 PM

With this victory in Brazil, we can now say that Verstappen has secured his 4th world championship.

Are you sure about that?
There are three more grand prix races left and Verstappen has only 62 points more than Noris, with 86 more than Leclerc.
First place in race wins 25 points so math is saying that Noris can win maximum 75 points.
I think Verstappen needs to win few more points in next races to secure his title in the end of the season.

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Nobody is gonna talk about another super shit performance made by the FIA marshalls? What a Pontius Pilate they do yesterday with all the possible sanctions.

About constructor championship, yes it seems like for Mclaren suits better because is one less race, but also they can have missed the chance of sealed the tittle considering how better they were against Ferrari in this track.

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Before the race, I expected Verstappen would have a fantastic performance, but I didn’t think he could actually win it. With this victory in Brazil, we can now say that Verstappen has secured his 4th world championship. Also, congratulations to goodpunt for his double win!

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Quote from: cryptofrka on November 04, 2024, 04:58:06 AM

A magnificent performance from Verstappen to clinch the Drivers title.
Everything went his way in this race but he took advantage of it in a way in which a champion does.

Both McLaren and Ferrari won't be happy with the constructors points, but with 1 less race to go it is McLaren that is happier with this outcome. Ferrari needed this race to go differently for them.

I have to give it to him. Really really wanted Norris to win, to keep the title exciting, I even thought Leclerc would have a big chance I guess many of us also did but if you see how he won, from so low on the grid, to claim the lead just halfway, who can say he doesn't deserve it? Like you said, the chances happened just directly for him but it takes a champion to take those chances.

3 more races to go, and I believe the last 2 are straightforward

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A magnificent performance from Verstappen to clinch the Drivers title.
Everything went his way in this race but he took advantage of it in a way in which a champion does.

Both McLaren and Ferrari won't be happy with the constructors points, but with 1 less race to go it is McLaren that is happier with this outcome. Ferrari needed this race to go differently for them.

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Quote from: boltz on November 03, 2024, 07:21:39 PM

Quote from: darbitmobilerecovery on November 03, 2024, 05:17:48 PM

Yes superlong and in some ways boring weekend, so many changes in the way, and so much rain and bad decissions from everybody from FIA teams,drivers,etc.

When i see the rain i was hoping to see a super fun race with changes of tyres and some crazy overtakes results and strategy but this happen in a non so good way.

Verstappen today shows why he deserves to be the champion and not Norris, Norris today was again "Blando" instead of Lando. The word Blando in sapnish is soft.

Norris cannot convert poles into race wins and that itself is enough to not be a champions. However , even if I don't admire Norris , he at least tasted what is necessary to become a champion and hopefully he will learn a lot and comeback stronger because it's not easy mentally to start P1 from 6 or 7 races and only being able to convert 1 into a win.

Max is truly a genius on rain and he proved it in a majestic way today and also I think he secured his title with this win. Cool

It is one of the days where Norris was absolutely not at fault and the only one to blame is McLaren who followed the wrong move of Mercedes. This mean that they greatly compromised the race there especially as they were not careful to notice that when they enter the pit stop it read in all monitors that Virtual Safety Car ending. Another blow of worse luck was the red flag which gave the possibility to people like Verstappen a free change on tires. This was it pure pure bad luck for McLaren and one of the rare cases where Norris was not at all at fault.

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Quote from: notblox1 on November 03, 2024, 04:22:25 PM

Congrats to hsh1 goodpunt for winning most points in Superbru.

Thanks notblox1

Very much needed points for me after winning the wooden spoon in Mexico Cheesy

Very eventful race Verstappen's odds for the win must have been very tasty.

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Quote from: darbitmobilerecovery on November 03, 2024, 05:17:48 PM

Yes superlong and in some ways boring weekend, so many changes in the way, and so much rain and bad decissions from everybody from FIA teams,drivers,etc.

When i see the rain i was hoping to see a super fun race with changes of tyres and some crazy overtakes results and strategy but this happen in a non so good way.

Verstappen today shows why he deserves to be the champion and not Norris, Norris today was again "Blando" instead of Lando. The word Blando in sapnish is soft.

Norris cannot convert poles into race wins and that itself is enough to not be a champions. However , even if I don't admire Norris , he at least tasted what is necessary to become a champion and hopefully he will learn a lot and comeback stronger because it's not easy mentally to start P1 from 6 or 7 races and only being able to convert 1 into a win.

Max is truly a genius on rain and he proved it in a majestic way today and also I think he secured his title with this win. Cool

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Yes superlong and in some ways boring weekend, so many changes in the way, and so much rain and bad decissions from everybody from FIA teams,drivers,etc.

When i see the rain i was hoping to see a super fun race with changes of tyres and some crazy overtakes results and strategy but this happen in a non so good way.

Verstappen today shows why he deserves to be the champion and not Norris, Norris today was again "Blando" instead of Lando. The word Blando in sapnish is soft.

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I cant believe Verstappen won this crazy race in impossible weather conditions! Shocked

Norris was my number one pick to win but I think he is not that good in wet conditions, and he missed a big chance today.
But biggest surprise for me was Ocon and Gasly with Alpine team being on podium.
Congrats to hsh1 goodpunt for winning most points in Superbru.

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