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Quote from: Reatim on October 19, 2024, 07:28:43 PM

Anyway, my prediction tomorrow is that Norris will not be able to hold on to his P1 for much longer. Probably by the end of lap 1, Max is the one leading already.

Looking back, I pretty got it quite accurate lol.

Except it was Leclerc who took advantage of the gap and dominated the race from then onwards. Pretty happy about today’s race honestly. I did expect Ferrari to be on the podium because of their good race pace from the sprint but also track performance in previous years. Didn’t expect it to be a 1-2. Now moving on to next tracks, Ferrari are also notably has been very good tracks with the next two tracks especially Las Vegas. I’m already expecting a good few weekends from Ferrari.

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Quote from: famososMuertos on October 20, 2024, 04:56:24 PM

Congrats to Jayce for that YC!

Colapinto almost gave me 2.5 points, I had selected him for position 10, but I decided only on the fastest lap, which he lost on the penultimate lap.

Notes aside, the trucks...!!
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Magnificent race from Colapinto, and making the "real" fastest lap, Alpine head was very smart on cutting that point from williams and making one of his driver to put the soft to steal the fastest lap.

About the race.... a good one. But for me it was not a penalty for Norris Verstappen as always forcing the other drivers and playing the victim card.... boring to see that behavior.

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Congrats to Jayce for that YC!

Colapinto almost gave me 2.5 points, I had selected him for position 10, but I decided only on the fastest lap, which he lost on the penultimate lap.

Notes aside, the trucks...!!
They seemed like candidates for queen of Texas Cheesy

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Quote from: Koal-84 on October 20, 2024, 01:46:15 AM

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They are only 30 or so points behind. Everything is still open, teams had time to work on the cars, whoever did the best ob will be the champion - even Ferrari has an outside chance.
I hope it will be McLaren, a change is needed. But way too early to say Red Bull is out of the race.

In the drivers' race Verstappen's probably just a bit too far ahead for Norris to have a chance.

Yes they are not far behind, but there is a big problem, at RedBull only one driver scores points, at McLaren two drivers score continuously, that makes a big difference.

Like yesterday in qualifying for the race, where is Perez? But congratulations to Norris, he just snatched pole position from Verstappen.

It will be a very nice race this one and can't wait for these hours to pass very soon, we are 5 hours away from the race now, Norris were extremely lucky to get the pole and knock one point out of my prediction as I had Verstappen on pole and Verstappen was doing a much better lap compared to what Norris was doing in the final moments of Q3 yet the huge amount of bad luck for me that guy Russell goes and crash into the wall, he has done so more than any other drivers from the line up that we have here. Verstappen is playing for the driver title and all Redbull is behind him supporting that title, they know don't stand big chances against McLaren in the constructors title so they are all doing anything they can for Max and even Perez can be sacrificed to achieve this goal.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on October 19, 2024, 04:29:58 AM

They are only 30 or so points behind. Everything is still open, teams had time to work on the cars, whoever did the best ob will be the champion - even Ferrari has an outside chance.
I hope it will be McLaren, a change is needed. But way too early to say Red Bull is out of the race.

In the drivers' race Verstappen's probably just a bit too far ahead for Norris to have a chance.

Yes they are not far behind, but there is a big problem, at RedBull only one driver scores points, at McLaren two drivers score continuously, that makes a big difference.

Like yesterday in qualifying for the race, where is Perez? But congratulations to Norris, he just snatched pole position from Verstappen.

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Quote from: swogerino on October 19, 2024, 06:06:20 PM

I think though it would be quite difficult for Norris to hit a win tomorrow night on the race because the Redbull under Max Verstappen driving style seems the best car out in this track, the sprint showed it too so I think Max despite this huge amount of bad luck

I must say I’m surprised by Mclaren’s performance. They are the team that has been consistently good in almost all tracks but now with Piastri not being able to get higher, it seems like something changed with the Mclaren car. I mean they did bring an enormous amount of upgrades this weekend. Not sure if it’s helping them.

Red bull or at least Max seems to have found their pace from the start of the season. Perez is going to cost them the constructors’ just how he did during 2021. He is just miles away from Max and it’s very damaging to the team.

Anyway, my prediction tomorrow is that Norris will not be able to hold on to his P1 for much longer. Probably by the end of lap 1, Max is the one leading already.

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Quote from: darbitmobilerecovery on October 19, 2024, 04:16:09 PM

Seems incredible how Lando Norris keeps giving advantage and words to spoke against him to his detractors or haters, because this people point uout that Norris is not so top because he made silly mistakes in crucial moments and....... today he make another one.

Luck is totally on his side though. I had Verstappen in pole and in the last minute of Q3 where he clearly were making a pole lap that idiot of Russell which has done this a lot of times now shunt himself into the wall which gave Lando the pole position for this race.I think though it would be quite difficult for Norris to hit a win tomorrow night on the race because the Redbull under Max Verstappen driving style seems the best car out in this track, the sprint showed it too so I think Max despite this huge amount of bad luck from that Russell guy which is doing from bad to worse or maybe is Mercedes doing so, Max I am sure is happy starting from the front row, he just needs to be calm and I am sure he can win this race and makes it difficult to McLaren driver Norris to win. Tomorrow Norris should give it all otherwise he can say goodbye to the Championship.

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Seems incredible how Lando Norris keeps giving advantage and words to spoke against him to his detractors or haters, because this people point uout that Norris is not so top because he made silly mistakes in crucial moments and....... today he make another one.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on October 19, 2024, 02:07:54 PM

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Norris screwed it up in the end against Ferrari when he locked up and is now finished third in the sprint race, he lost 2 or 3 points against Verstappen, also I got enough info for what to place as the pole winner, race winner and so on, Ferrari seemed a massive upgrade in performance and let's see how do in tomorrow race. I am extremely disappointed for McLaren, not showing what they are capable or maybe their driver ability is less than that of Verstappen, it will be a very difficult race to predict, one thing I know for sure is that Aston Martin sucked really really big in here and I don't see them doing any further improvement to enter points unless a lot of Safety Car incidents will happen.

Bad outcome of sprint for Norris and Max managed to increase his lead a bit. Norris was close to fall off the podium and for me that straight braking in front of Leclerc looked interesting, Charles almost crashed into him.
Ferrari looked great, but IMO they wasted too much time and tyres fighting between each other.
And both Haas finishing in points is impressive stuff.

Since Haas is based on a Ferrari engine it really means that the Ferraris are doing well here, however the thing is I doubt in the race they will be able to do so like they did in the sprint for a longer time, overall the strategies in the race depending also on how people will qualify is that most likely they won't be able to climb in a podium, I see McLaren doing better in a longer distance and the focus will be much higher from Norris and Piastri during the long race rather than in this sprint or at least I hope they do otherwise we call it a day regarding the title of the drivers being won by Max Verstappen and why not we also re-open the title for the constructors seeing how well the Redbull upgrades have been put in place during this long break of 3 weeks.

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Quote from: swogerino on October 19, 2024, 01:41:29 PM

Norris screwed it up in the end against Ferrari when he locked up and is now finished third in the sprint race, he lost 2 or 3 points against Verstappen, also I got enough info for what to place as the pole winner, race winner and so on, Ferrari seemed a massive upgrade in performance and let's see how do in tomorrow race. I am extremely disappointed for McLaren, not showing what they are capable or maybe their driver ability is less than that of Verstappen, it will be a very difficult race to predict, one thing I know for sure is that Aston Martin sucked really really big in here and I don't see them doing any further improvement to enter points unless a lot of Safety Car incidents will happen.

Bad outcome of sprint for Norris and Max managed to increase his lead a bit. Norris was close to fall off the podium and for me that straight braking in front of Leclerc looked interesting, Charles almost crashed into him.
Ferrari looked great, but IMO they wasted too much time and tyres fighting between each other.
And both Haas finishing in points is impressive stuff.

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Quote from: CLS63 on October 19, 2024, 01:32:11 PM

So far in the sessions, there have been quite different results. At first, Ferrari looked strong in practice. But later on they couldn't show the same effort in sprint qualifying.

Currently there is a sprint race going on. Ferrari can't be competitive for the lead again. Verstappen has a decent gap against Norris in the lead. If he finishes ahead of Norris here, will Norris' chance for the title be still on? Huh

Norris screwed it up in the end against Ferrari when he locked up and is now finished third in the sprint race, he lost 2 or 3 points against Verstappen, also I got enough info for what to place as the pole winner, race winner and so on, Ferrari seemed a massive upgrade in performance and let's see how do in tomorrow race. I am extremely disappointed for McLaren, not showing what they are capable or maybe their driver ability is less than that of Verstappen, it will be a very difficult race to predict, one thing I know for sure is that Aston Martin sucked really really big in here and I don't see them doing any further improvement to enter points unless a lot of Safety Car incidents will happen.

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So far in the sessions, there have been quite different results. At first, Ferrari looked strong in practice. But later on they couldn't show the same effort in sprint qualifying.

Currently there is a sprint race going on. Ferrari can't be competitive for the lead again. Verstappen has a decent gap against Norris in the lead. If he finishes ahead of Norris here, will Norris' chance for the title be still on? Huh

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Quote from: Koal-84 on October 19, 2024, 03:17:10 AM

RedBull's updates seem to be working reasonably well, Verstappen get pole position for the sprint race, McLaren didn't perform so well after the break, could be a step forward for RedBull for the world championship, even if the constructors title is lost I think.

Yeah I was surprised by seeing the qualifying results yet I think that it is mostly thanks to Max bravery than the Redbull upgrades, in such track the driving skill absolutely distinguishes between drivers and cars, in here having the best car is not enough to do well so I think it is mostly due to Max bravery. For this reason I have not put my predictions yet, I need to see the race at 20 PM European time and then decide how to go for tomorrow race as in our time the qualification starts at 00.00 AM so it is in the same date as the race Grin

on 20 October. I need this information before blasting my picks in, it is essential I think to anyone to get this info before deciding how to go and this can also tell us for real if the Redbull upgrades can make a difference which would lead most of us to change our picks that we have already in mind.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on October 19, 2024, 03:17:10 AM

RedBull's updates seem to be working reasonably well, Verstappen get pole position for the sprint race, McLaren didn't perform so well after the break, could be a step forward for RedBull for the world championship, even if the constructors title is lost I think.

They are only 30 or so points behind. Everything is still open, teams had time to work on the cars, whoever did the best ob will be the champion - even Ferrari has an outside chance.
I hope it will be McLaren, a change is needed. But way too early to say Red Bull is out of the race.

In the drivers' race Verstappen's probably just a bit too far ahead for Norris to have a chance.

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RedBull's updates seem to be working reasonably well, Verstappen get pole position for the sprint race, McLaren didn't perform so well after the break, could be a step forward for RedBull for the world championship, even if the constructors title is lost I think.

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Yes i think we talk so much about Newey moving away to a new team but we dont talk so much about how RedBull is gonna replace him and how much is gonna hurt the team this movement, this can lead into a very bad spiral for RedBull, because they are so adapted to work with him and no matter who is the new guy who replace him is gonna be another kind of work and philosophy.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on October 17, 2024, 06:33:59 AM

Quote from: famososMuertos on October 16, 2024, 09:08:52 PM

While it is true that this guy (Checo) has had a terrible year, sometimes the way the media or some fans rate Checo is hiting the bullets that should go to Red Bull, or to Max himself, in fact Helmut Marko* said it, any other driver could be more or less at the same pace as Checo, but there is no difference in getting another driver, unless they put another world champion as a teammate.

Conclusion: Perhaps the only way Checo is not or leaves Red Bull is if Max is not at Red Bull.

They were fine with him when they were dominant and he was a perfect 2nd guy who doesn't even try to challenge Max.
Now when the dominance is gone, they would really like to have somebody better than him.

Max might get the driver's title, but they will probably lose the constructor one. Blame cannot be on Max of course, it will be on Perez - but should realistically be on the guy that's keeping him there.

I think that they lose the constructors title because of everyone being at fault in the team there and honestly it is because of Newey moving away from the team. In the beginning of the season Redbull was still doing fine, once Newey got away we saw them going down drastically in performance and this led to Redbull already losing their constructors title. It is of course thanks to Max who has been able to come 2nd or 3rd in races where this Redbull car has been a shit car in the true meaning of the word. So this is one of those rare cases where Perez is not the main guilty of such happening.

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Quote from: famososMuertos on October 16, 2024, 09:08:52 PM

While it is true that this guy (Checo) has had a terrible year, sometimes the way the media or some fans rate Checo is hiting the bullets that should go to Red Bull, or to Max himself, in fact Helmut Marko* said it, any other driver could be more or less at the same pace as Checo, but there is no difference in getting another driver, unless they put another world champion as a teammate.

Conclusion: Perhaps the only way Checo is not or leaves Red Bull is if Max is not at Red Bull.

They were fine with him when they were dominant and he was a perfect 2nd guy who doesn't even try to challenge Max.
Now when the dominance is gone, they would really like to have somebody better than him.

Max might get the driver's title, but they will probably lose the constructor one. Blame cannot be on Max of course, it will be on Perez - but should realistically be on the guy that's keeping him there.

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What can be said after a break is that Haas has a new look and that Alpin will race like McClaren, at least in the colours of their car. Undecided

Quote from: nil_krokodil on October 16, 2024, 10:33:45 AM

I agree, RedBull fighting with only one driver is a big disadvantage for Max Verstappen.
Perez is doing a bad job to fight for Max Verstappen and put pressure on McLaren.
Oscar Piastri is a good driver who can take points away if he finishes in front of Max Verstappen.

While it is true that this guy (Checo) has had a terrible year, sometimes the way the media or some fans rate Checo is hiting the bullets that should go to Red Bull, or to Max himself, in fact Helmut Marko* said it, any other driver could be more or less at the same pace as Checo, but there is no difference in getting another driver, unless they put another world champion as a teammate.

Conclusion: Perhaps the only way Checo is not or leaves Red Bull is if Max is not at Red Bull.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on October 16, 2024, 10:36:56 AM

It was a long break so I'm really looking forward to the race - let's see if Red Bull can restore some of the early dominance.
Shame it is in the USA, I won't be staying awake - a morning replay will have to do. Shame I'll already know the results.

Where do you guys watch F1? I watched it on the regular TV channels and found it a bit boring, then one time went to a friend's house and he's an F1 fanatic. He showed me the official app where you can change the cameras constantly and after that F1 became 10x more interesting to me.
If you like F1 and still don't have it, I highly recommend it. The camera from driver's view is amazing.

Yeah, finally F1 is back! Grin

It has been such a long time since we saw the last race. I always say this, there should only be one long break which is in the summer in a season. No more than that. But we got another break of one month a short time after the last one. Who is preparing this calendar for real? Anyway I hope we have fun rather than a boring race.

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Where do you guys watch F1? I watched it on the regular TV channels and found it a bit boring, then one time went to a friend's house and he's an F1 fanatic. He showed me the official app where you can change the cameras constantly and after that F1 became 10x more interesting to me.
If you like F1 and still don't have it, I highly recommend it. The camera from driver's view is amazing.

I thought of purchasing a subscription on F1 TV. However it was really expensive in my country so I chose a local broadcaster subscription instead. Tongue

But I really love F1 TV Pro. I had the chance to try it once and it was so fun to watch the races in a detailed view.

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