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I hope Todd Boehly's model works out for the better because we don't have any reason not to compete given what we've spent so far.
It is not looking like it will at all and the owner seems to be more of a businessman than a football fan who is passionate about the results on the pitch.

I'd say he's passionate about building for the long term; the results may not be evident right now, but the money he's spent on young players may turn out to be exactly what we needed in 3-4 years. We had been used to buying players for short-term gain, which is what has led to where we are today (total revamp). The future is great.

Caicedo seems to be a trick from Liverpool, they knew Chelsea wanted him so they left the bid lol I doubt they ever pay that much for 2nd rate urgent need.

Liverpool leaving the bid after being rejected was a dumb idea. They ruined the market for us and for future plans.
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Chelsea and Liverpool both lost on this transfer if you ask me. Liverpool needed the player but lost him and in process managed to remove a hefty amount from Chelsea pocket. I know you don't want to hear it but Chelsea transfer policy is criminal, you guys spent so much on frankly mostly mediocre players. I said the same in that transfer window when Boehly decided to buy everything and I will say it again now. Only difference is you have better coach now so maybe he will manage to salvage something.

Liverpool had the best transfer only a few seasons ago but I believe this time they were surprised of losing almost all midfield, and then no choice but pay high fees.

Caicedo seems to be a trick from Liverpool, they knew Chelsea wanted him so they left the bid lol I doubt they ever pay that much for 2nd rate urgent need.

Pochettino will be a difference maker though, if Boehly gives him time. I'm afraid time is not something Chelsea likes to give.
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I hope Todd Boehly's model works out for the better because we don't have any reason not to compete given what we've spent so far.
It is not looking like it will at all and the owner seems to be more of a businessman than a football fan who is passionate about the results on the pitch.

The big winners here are the smaller clubs who groom or buy the young talents for cheap and then sell them off to much bigger clubs and it only seems fitting cause there is an an obvious imbalance in available resources between clubs and this is the only way to bridge that gap and allow clubs to compete more evenly.

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Brighton has done a great job, no doubt about it.

Chelsea and Liverpool both lost on this transfer if you ask me. Liverpool needed the player but lost him and in process managed to remove a hefty amount from Chelsea pocket. I know you don't want to hear it but Chelsea transfer policy is criminal, you guys spent so much on frankly mostly mediocre players. I said the same in that transfer window when Boehly decided to buy everything and I will say it again now. Only difference is you have better coach now so maybe he will manage to salvage something.

No, you are right; we have spent over a billion pounds and yet our midfield and attack still seem average; the Chelsea I know only throw money at experienced and proven players rather than investing £100m, £70m on random U24 players.

Half of these billions were spent on random Brazilian kids and loaned out right away. I hope Todd Boehly's model works out for the better because we don't have any reason not to compete given what we've spent so far.
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Brighton losing their top midfielders and being top of the league after the first two games (still too early), with a total of 8 goals scored (which is the highest so far by any club) is a great feat. The club is one of the best managed in the league with the little resources available to them.
And now resources are coming as well, that transfer fee for Caicedo was a real robbery and I don't understand why would Chelsea ever agree to deal like that.

Chelsea only agreed to pay an £80m package for Caidedo; everyone knows he's not a £100m player; but, Liverpool's owners believe he's worth more than Brighton's £100m asking price and gave them £110m. We only paid that much because Liverpool refused to withdraw their bid after the player rejected them. Why isn't Liverpool accepting full responsibility for inflating the entire transfer package?

The next Brighton robbery train is Mitoma and Estu- I'm sure these players do not have a release clause in their contracts.
Brighton has done a great job, no doubt about it.

Chelsea and Liverpool both lost on this transfer if you ask me. Liverpool needed the player but lost him and in process managed to remove a hefty amount from Chelsea pocket. I know you don't want to hear it but Chelsea transfer policy is criminal, you guys spent so much on frankly mostly mediocre players. I said the same in that transfer window when Boehly decided to buy everything and I will say it again now. Only difference is you have better coach now so maybe he will manage to salvage something.
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Brighton losing their top midfielders and being top of the league after the first two games (still too early), with a total of 8 goals scored (which is the highest so far by any club) is a great feat. The club is one of the best managed in the league with the little resources available to them.
And now resources are coming as well, that transfer fee for Caicedo was a real robbery and I don't understand why would Chelsea ever agree to deal like that.

Chelsea only agreed to pay an £80m package for Caidedo; everyone knows he's not a £100m player; but, Liverpool's owners believe he's worth more than Brighton's £100m asking price and gave them £110m. We only paid that much because Liverpool refused to withdraw their bid after the player rejected them. Why isn't Liverpool accepting full responsibility for inflating the entire transfer package?

The next Brighton robbery train is Mitoma and Estu- I'm sure these players do not have a release clause in their contracts.
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Arsenal make sure they are keeping up, but relying on penalty for win, and losing their player for red card now looks like they are facing difficult times.
For the last 10 minutes Arsenal did not have any known forward player. If they would concede a goal then there were no way for them to comeback, they needed to settle with a draw. They were a headache for me though. It was stressful because one of my 6 fold was depending on their win.



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Arsenal make sure they are keeping up, but relying on penalty for win, and losing their player for red card now looks like they are facing difficult times.

Tables lie of course at such early start of season. City had 1 tough opponent, Chelsea and Liverpool had 1 tough one, Spurs look like the winner for Top 5. New UCL format is Top 5 right?
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Moisés Caicedo is actually a very fantastic player but he's definitely worth nothing near half the price Chelsea had to pay for him, and Brighton aren't looking like a team who misses him anyway, while having an heavy fortune in bank for him.
And he now has to play to that price tag cause the media is going to constantly put him under pressure to justify the money Chelsea spent on him, even if he is playing "decent" it will not be good enough.
The coach has a big job to manage the players and maintain their confidence while keeping them on their toes to perform to par.

as it looks now, Everton can be saved only by Sheffield, Wolves and Luton being worse than them, they don't want to be better
They have started some previous seasons good but ended up terribly. Maybe a bad start could turn good for a change.

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Yeah casper, tough luck for Everton really. Great escapes are only nice if they're the springboard for success a la Leicester City but you've got to question why they'd fight so hard to keep  barely staying up.

Chelsea, Caicedo, yeah. Schadenfreude at its finest. I'll enjoy every loss they make. Not much skin for me in tonight's game but it's something to watch on Monday!
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Everton is going to have a worse season than the last one I think.


as it looks now, Everton can be saved only by Sheffield, Wolves and Luton being worse than them, they don't want to be better

but as Villa lost 1:5 in first round, to return 4:0 in second round, Everton can be back after two loses in opening rounds
first round wasn't bad, just unlucky, yesterday team was really down in second half, and DCL is now out again
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I think that this second round made the pool even more beautiful,just 6 points difference in near 20 places excluding the first place which is 8 points ahead,still distances that are easily recovered if we keep playing consistently with 13-15 points for a single round.

Chelsea was the biggest surprise for me yesterday as it was a completely different Chelsea team than the one we saw against Liverpool in the first week of the season.Let's see what Arsenal can make tonight but I think most likely it will be an easy win for them.
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Money can buy you players but can't buy you points was what we learned from Chelsea today their 2nd most expensive transfer of all time missed a penalty to put them ahead, and the game surely could have turned out differently had Enzo scored the penalty, while their most expensive player of all time was the one that gave away the penalty that ensured Chelsea stood no chance of getting any point from the match. Moisés Caicedo is actually a very fantastic player but he's definitely worth nothing near half the price Chelsea had to pay for him, and Brighton aren't looking like a team who misses him anyway, while having an heavy fortune in bank for him.

Chelsea actually does need a couple of attacking variations, especially with Nkunku's injury, not C(D)Ms, Lavia and Caicedo were just misplaced priorities imo, why fix something, when it's not faulty?

Let us stop pretending that Klopp didn't take more than four years to rebuild the whole Liverpool team before challenging for titles despite spending fortunes in his first two seasons. Pep likewise went blank in his first rebuild season, and it took Arteta two seasons and a lot of money to get it right. The Chelsea team is rebuilding, with 80% of the players playing together for the first time. As a fan, I expected this rebuild to take at least two seasons to complete. Expecting instant success will not work anywhere.

I'm not sure what you mean by misplaced priorities; Caidedo and Lavia have always been on our list. We almost signed Caicedo in 2020 before Brighton did, and we made a late bid for Lavia last season but were unsuccessful. These two have always been on our short list to replace Kante and Kovasic. Our DM was broken and needed to be fixed.
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I was expecting Chelsea to win today. However they couldn't even manage to equalize the score after the opponent started to play with 10 players.

Chelsea were at some point very good today, but especially after going a goal down, but after the restored parity they couldn't find away back before West Ham was finally able punish them for the inconsistencies with the ball and creativity in the final third. I think the Chelsea team are still pretty much unstable, but they will find their rhythm at some point as the season progresses, Pochettino still doesn't have a first choice starting eleven yet, so until he does arrive at it, you can still expect this level instability from the team.

Couldn't have Liverpool and Chelsea convinced Jude Bellingham in some way instead of paying these numbers for Caicedo?

Money can buy you players but can't buy you points was what we learned from Chelsea today their 2nd most expensive transfer of all time missed a penalty to put them ahead, and the game surely could have turned out differently had Enzo scored the penalty, while their most expensive player of all time was the one that gave away the penalty that ensured Chelsea stood no chance of getting any point from the match. Moisés Caicedo is actually a very fantastic player but he's definitely worth nothing near half the price Chelsea had to pay for him, and Brighton aren't looking like a team who misses him anyway, while having an heavy fortune in bank for him.

Chelsea actually does need a couple of attacking variations, especially with Nkunku's injury, not C(D)Ms, Lavia and Caicedo were just misplaced priorities imo, why fix something, when it's not faulty?
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Couldn't have Liverpool and Chelsea convinced Jude Bellingham in some way instead of paying these numbers for Caicedo? Bellingham is absolutely a player who can make difference and help his team level up whatever team he goes to. I was expecting Chelsea to win today. However they couldn't even manage to equalize the score after the opponent started to play with 10 players.
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but it seems that it will not be without proper fight on the pitch
I didn't expect such an easy win for Aston Villa either. In fact, no one did. Everyone in the pool predicted a 2-1 or 2-0 win for Aston Villa but they really made it far easier. Everton is going to have a worse season than the last one I think.

Will West Ham make the Blues cry today? lol. West Ham against Chelsea was always a dangerous opponent at home if we check the last few years' history. Chelsea is already down 1-0. Well, my only bet in this match is for both teams to score so, it's fine for me until now although I picked a 2-1 win for the Blues.
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Everton is about to face Villa, in a longest team fixture in a English top flight league, they will face 211 times in top flight
DCL is back, chances are we will lose this one, but it seems that it will not be without proper fight on the pitch

it is a history in this match after all
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You can't blame the 19-25 age group players for picking Chelsea over Liverpool; they weren't alive when Liverpool dominated the league in the 1970s and 1980s, but they all watched Chelsea dominate the league in the 2000s. Having said that, I'm confident that our L.F.C midfield will break every other midfield this season. Our title charge will begin tomorrow.

Bournemouth are shit!

I wasn't alive or aware of Liverpool either and saw Chelsea emerge in my youth with petrol money... Still thought it was impressive to see not rich clubs get better football playing but of course, I get the point. Chelsea means immediate chances of titles... Liverpool even after the last period of success still play and sct like perennial seeded underdogs.

Our red card means new boy starts so that is silver lining...

Brighton,  bright spot. They are a credit to the league. I took Mitoma off my fantasy but not because I don't like the guy... He and others in Europe proving Japan was no fluke in the last WC.
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And now resources are coming as well, that transfer fee for Caicedo was a real robbery and I don't understand why would Chelsea ever agree to deal like that.
They know how to drive a hard bargain and wait long enough for it to turn to a bidding battle between top clubs driving one to make a decisive move. Just as WestHam did with the Declan Rice sale.

Brighton plays really good football and they are a joy to watch. That being said they had maybe the easiest opening 3 fixtures in the league but then they fixtures turn really bad. We shall see how will they be able to handle those opponents that are on their level or better.
Momentum is great early on in the season, cause those easy fixtures could turn difficult once those clubs pick up some steam or are into relegation battles.

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Brighton losing their top midfielders and being top of the league after the first two games (still too early), with a total of 8 goals scored (which is the highest so far by any club) is a great feat. The club is one of the best managed in the league with the little resources available to them.
And now resources are coming as well, that transfer fee for Caicedo was a real robbery and I don't understand why would Chelsea ever agree to deal like that.

Brighton plays really good football and they are a joy to watch. That being said they had maybe the easiest opening 3 fixtures in the league but then they fixtures turn really bad. We shall see how will they be able to handle those opponents that are on their level or better.
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