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So you guys think Leicester can get a goal in vs City or is there some value in City win to nil at 2.32?

The odds look good in terms of value, but I'd gladly pass on it, because I think are easily going to concede a goal or two, Haaland is likely not to start, so I'm sure Guardiola tactical ingenuity might come to hunt him again because I'm quite looking forward a couple of tweaks if Haaland doesn't start then it's likely we'll have De Bruyne play further forward while I like the calm he and composure he brings when playing deeper.

Well i think Leicester will score at least one goal in this match. They picked up form lately and always o most score a goal so i think Man City will have a really difficult match plus if Haaland dosent play that will make things even harder for City because they dont have a second striker similar to Haaland.
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Newcastle is playing great football and that is mainly thanks to Eddie Howe, he was the one that turned this team upside down after signing last season. They bought some new players but it wasn't anything extravagant so far. I read some statements from the owners and it seems they understand football and know that you can't buy Premier League title in one transfer window. Better to raise the quality of the club trough few seasons and then challenge for highest honors.

Bruno Guimaraes was an excellent transfer and he is second in line behind Howe when merits are awarded for Newcastle good performances.

Well, they bought Chris Wood for 30 million when they were in the relegation fight - and spent like 100 million in that winter window alone.
I do agree that Howe is doing a great job, I said it a few times already. But 200 million invested in 2 windows is serious money, no matter the fact that they did invest it in a really smart way.

Newcastle is overachieving so far and we have to remember when things go south for them (and they probably will) that this season their goal should be to finish in the top half of the table, everything else would be a big bonus.

Yes, but we have here to make a statement, everyone knows the EPL teams has tons of moneys compared to the rest of europe, so a lot of european teams when has a negotiation with EPL team wants more money because they know they can pay.

So because of that and in addition i think when the news of Newcastle being owned by the Saudis was spread all the teams when Newcastle ask for a transfer can say, "yes this X player can cost to you 80 millions" because everyone knows they are full of cash.

So i think they are going slow to make down a little for lower the pompadour, and dont be a easy easy prey in the market and dont overspend in players.

After i also think they learn about P$G and City and know you cant win only by buying top stars, you need a real team and a complete structure of football behind, so i think like trofo, when he say they are doing solid foundations first.
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So you guys think Leicester can get a goal in vs City or is there some value in City win to nil at 2.32?

The odds look good in terms of value, but I'd gladly pass on it, because I think are easily going to concede a goal or two, Haaland is likely not to start, so I'm sure Guardiola tactical ingenuity might come to hunt him again because I'm quite looking forward a couple of tweaks if Haaland doesn't start then it's likely we'll have De Bruyne play further forward while I like the calm he and composure he brings when playing deeper.
That is just not the match I will play at all, no value to be found for me. City is of course a big favorite but Leicester toughened up their defense in recent weeks and City will probably be without Haaland. This could even finish as 0:0 or 0:1 for City. Then on the other hand Leicester at home with Maddison in form can score against anybody and if game opens up it could be a goal fest.

Too many unknowns, maybe I will place some bet after line ups are available or after 20 minutes of play when I see how the game looks.
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So you guys think Leicester can get a goal in vs City or is there some value in City win to nil at 2.32?

The odds look good in terms of value, but I'd gladly pass on it, because I think are easily going to concede a goal or two, Haaland is likely not to start, so I'm sure Guardiola tactical ingenuity might come to hunt him again because I'm quite looking forward a couple of tweaks if Haaland doesn't start then it's likely we'll have De Bruyne play further forward while I like the calm he and composure he brings when playing deeper.
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^  I haven't really been watching a lot of the EPL but I kinda expected Newcastle to do a bit better than they did during seasons prior as they're being backed financially by Saudi oilers now.  And they're manager is decent.  I've always rooted for Eddie Howe and have said that he's gonna be a manager of a bigger club in the coming years.  I guess this is his big break.

I think they're doing a lot better than they're getting credit for, just because they have a blank cheque which haven't been put to a full use yet and their biggest signing have barely been of much use too, meanwhile the team seem to be highly motivated.

They've lost just only one game (to Liverpool, which was a 98th minute goal, as well) despite having played against teams like Manchester City, Liverpool, Tottenham, Manchester United and even this season's somewhat impressive at the early stage's Brighton, I'd say that deserves some commendation to say the least, and despite all of these aforementioned fixtures, they've conceded the least amount of goals compared to any other team in the league, only City, Chelsea and Arsenal comes joint second in the aspect, meanwhile they've all played a fixture less than Newcastle.

Newcastle also have one of the best goal difference +10 or goal scored to goal conceded ratio 2:1 in the league currently as well, also only just Man City and Arsenal (slightly) have done better in that aspect.

For what it's worth, I think their season so far is nothing short of a brilliant success, considering the fixture they've played so far and what's left for the first half of the season, it probably can only get better, however, that's just my personal opinion and it's solely based on an informed guess..

It's hard to disagree with you there with how good they're running so far.  I'm rooting for them to finish top 4 and I guess they could steal some more points in the reverse fixtures from some of the supposed most likely clubrs to finish top 4 like City, United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Tottenham and Arsenal.

But yeah..  This round of matches looks like it's easier to predict than the last couple match days.  Good luck to everybody.

So you guys think Leicester can get a goal in vs City or is there some value in City win to nil at 2.32?
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(except as cryptofrka points out, Wood, really, I have no idea what that was about).
Wood was perfectly logical solution at that time, somewhat proven not overly expensive striker that doesn't need adaptation to the league. At that moment they were in relegation fight and their only proper striker Willson had injury problems. They needed quick fix to bring somebody to play next bunch of games, not long term solution. Now they brought Isak who can cover for Willson or play on wing when Willson is fit.

Willson is one of my favourite strikers in PL, but he is very injury prone and you have to have somebody to cover almost half of the season.
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Newcastle is playing great football and that is mainly thanks to Eddie Howe, he was the one that turned this team upside down after signing last season. They bought some new players but it wasn't anything extravagant so far. I read some statements from the owners and it seems they understand football and know that you can't buy Premier League title in one transfer window. Better to raise the quality of the club trough few seasons and then challenge for highest honors.

Bruno Guimaraes was an excellent transfer and he is second in line behind Howe when merits are awarded for Newcastle good performances.

Yeah to be honest I was really really surprised they got Howe and didn't blow away the wallet with an expensive team.

Aware of how much spent but relative to market, it is not a lot... which also reminds us how little Leicester and Villa spent relative to market and why they were pretty helpless. Only Potter being brilliiant survived selling and still fighting.

I really like Guimaraes and St-Maximin, but Toon Army favourite Almiron has also been enjoying such a season so far (I always enjoyed him on occasion but the games I've watched this year he's amazing on the left flank)...

I'm not sure about Howe after a few seasons though, he lost his team effect after a few years it felt like, but this turned out to be a good move from owners (except as cryptofrka points out, Wood, really, I have no idea what that was about).
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Newcastle is playing great football and that is mainly thanks to Eddie Howe, he was the one that turned this team upside down after signing last season. They bought some new players but it wasn't anything extravagant so far. I read some statements from the owners and it seems they understand football and know that you can't buy Premier League title in one transfer window. Better to raise the quality of the club trough few seasons and then challenge for highest honors.

Bruno Guimaraes was an excellent transfer and he is second in line behind Howe when merits are awarded for Newcastle good performances.

Well, they bought Chris Wood for 30 million when they were in the relegation fight - and spent like 100 million in that winter window alone.
I do agree that Howe is doing a great job, I said it a few times already. But 200 million invested in 2 windows is serious money, no matter the fact that they did invest it in a really smart way.

Newcastle is overachieving so far and we have to remember when things go south for them (and they probably will) that this season their goal should be to finish in the top half of the table, everything else would be a big bonus.
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They are closer to the league than they have been in the past 50 years lol  Grin, so maybe it's time to use the blank cheque. They have a very tactical coach, and if they must stay in the top 10, at the very least, they need squad depth. Sooner or later, the pressure of being in the top four will start getting to the players' heads.

I believe the new buyers understand football, like someone here already mentioned and building an efficient squad takes more than just an all out buy, which often almost never works immediately for any team, they've got a really decent coach that can identify what's needed to make the team better and I believe that's quite evident with every transfer they made so far, I believe If they club retains Howe for at least 3-4 seasons with the kind of budget he's got, there will be another big team to worry about for the likes of Chelsea, City and Liverpool.
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Newcastle is playing great football and that is mainly thanks to Eddie Howe, he was the one that turned this team upside down after signing last season. They bought some new players but it wasn't anything extravagant so far. I read some statements from the owners and it seems they understand football and know that you can't buy Premier League title in one transfer window. Better to raise the quality of the club trough few seasons and then challenge for highest honors.

Bruno Guimaraes was an excellent transfer and he is second in line behind Howe when merits are awarded for Newcastle good performances.
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Of course I agree that Newcastle has been doing really well in Premiership during this year despite their questionable start with a couple of lost games against weak opponents.

they are playing solid football, and have great table position so far (with six draws from 12 rounds, it is hard to expect to fight for title, but they lost just once), better winning ratio would see them fight for CL in the end
nevertheless, it is expected to see money in-flow in their team, in larger amounts than so far, since they are just playing on higher morale now, not on new players, not to mention star players

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I think this Newcastle team deserves some respect, because asides of them were owned for the saudis now, they didnt sign any big player until now. So basically its the same team as before season with really normal reinforcements doing really great in the pitch.

I think if they can clasified to a European competition they can start signing stars for the next season.

I am pretty sure they will go big in the January transfer,Saudis have money which they don't know where to spend them so they will go all in by buying and signing some big names in the January window,not the best players as they are already signed but what comes after them I am sure they will be signed.

Of course I agree that Newcastle has been doing really well in Premiership during this year despite their questionable start with a couple of lost games against weak opponents.It can only be good for them,for the Premier League and European competitions if the Saudis sign these players mentioned above as it will only add to the competition.
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^  I haven't really been watching a lot of the EPL but I kinda expected Newcastle to do a bit better than they did during seasons prior as they're being backed financially by Saudi oilers now.  And they're manager is decent.  I've always rooted for Eddie Howe and have said that he's gonna be a manager of a bigger club in the coming years.  I guess this is his big break.

I think they're doing a lot better than they're getting credit for, just because they're have a blank cheque which haven't been put to an full use yet and their biggest signing have barely been of much use, meanwhile the team seem to be highly motivated.

They are closer to the league than they have been in the past 50 years lol  Grin, so maybe it's time to use the blank cheque. They have a very tactical coach, and if they must stay in the top 10, at the very least, they need squad depth. Sooner or later, the pressure of being in the top four will start getting to the players' heads.

 The Newcastle owners, who have been seen at more of our home games than usual this season, are rumored to own a small stake in Chelsea.

I think this Newcastle team deserves some respect, because asides of them were owned for the saudis now, they didnt sign any big player until now. So basically its the same team as before season with really normal reinforcements doing really great in the pitch.

I think if they can clasified qualitfy to a European competition they can start signing stars for the next season.

they did signed but they need more than they have now to make the european competition cult.
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I think this Newcastle team deserves some respect, because asides of them were owned for the saudis now, they didnt sign any big player until now. So basically its the same team as before season with really normal reinforcements doing really great in the pitch.

I think if they can clasified to a European competition they can start signing stars for the next season.
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^  I haven't really been watching a lot of the EPL but I kinda expected Newcastle to do a bit better than they did during seasons prior as they're being backed financially by Saudi oilers now.  And they're manager is decent.  I've always rooted for Eddie Howe and have said that he's gonna be a manager of a bigger club in the coming years.  I guess this is his big break.

I think they're doing a lot better than they're getting credit for, just because they have a blank cheque which haven't been put to a full use yet and their biggest signing have barely been of much use too, meanwhile the team seem to be highly motivated.

They've lost just only one game (to Liverpool, which was a 98th minute goal, as well) despite having played against teams like Manchester City, Liverpool, Tottenham, Manchester United and even this season's somewhat impressive at the early stage's Brighton, I'd say that deserves some commendation to say the least, and despite all of these aforementioned fixtures, they've conceded the least amount of goals compared to any other team in the league, only City, Chelsea and Arsenal comes joint second in the aspect, meanwhile they've all played a fixture less than Newcastle.

Newcastle also have one of the best goal difference +10 or goal scored to goal conceded ratio 2:1 in the league currently as well, also only just Man City and Arsenal (slightly) have done better in that aspect.

For what it's worth, I think their season so far is nothing short of a brilliant success, considering the fixture they've played so far and what's left for the first half of the season, it probably can only get better, however, that's just my personal opinion and it's solely based on an informed guess..
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^  I haven't really been watching a lot of the EPL but I kinda expected Newcastle to do a bit better than they did during seasons prior as they're being backed financially by Saudi oilers now.  And they're manager is decent.  I've always rooted for Eddie Howe and have said that he's gonna be a manager of a bigger club in the coming years.  I guess this is his big break.

Congrats to Darbit and LFC_Bitcoin on the yellow cap,we are sharing this prize so pretty happy with the week. Didnt expect in the end three yellow caps but thats how intresting it was. Also too bad Bournemouth didnt score at least one goal they were playing so good in the end of the match but not much chances for them.

It was a terrible week for me in the pool, I was able to rack up just 4 points in total and I dropped by 5 places all the way to 15th, Kudos to all of you guys sharing the yellow cap because It wasn't an easy week and and 10.5 points as the joint best also shows how tough the week was on an average.

I was also rooting for Bournemouth to score a goal, I had BTTS on a bet slip and I also went with 2-1 in the pool, so it could have been a win-win situation had that happened.

It was a terrible week for most. I was one point away from my second wooden spoon of the season. Lots of upsets. Nobody predicted Liverpool losing and only one person backed the Arsenal/Southampton draw. Only one person backed Newcastle to beat Spurs as well. The chubby chipmunk-faced cunt that is Casemiro caused me from losing the exact score in injury time. Anyone who got more than a handful of points from this week did very well.

...  Checks the results...

Wasn't me.  Lol.  But decent.  Still not enough to break top 20 tho.  I just need a couple of lucky weeks.
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It was a terrible week for me in the pool, I was able to rack up just 4 points in total and I dropped by 5 places all the way to 15th, Kudos to all of you guys sharing the yellow cap because It wasn't an easy week and and 10.5 points as the joint best also shows how tough the week was on an average.

I was also rooting for Bournemouth to score a goal, I had BTTS on a bet slip and I also went with 2-1 in the pool, so it could have been a win-win situation had that happened.

It was a terrible week for most. I was one point away from my second wooden spoon of the season. Lots of upsets. Nobody predicted Liverpool losing and only one person backed the Arsenal/Southampton draw. Only one person backed Newcastle to beat Spurs as well. The chubby chipmunk-faced cunt that is Casemiro caused me from losing the exact score in injury time. Anyone who got more than a handful of points from this week did very well.

Lol, I'm a Chelsea fan, and Casemiro's last-minute goal gave me a 1-1 correct score. I wasn't sure if I should be happy or not, because it could have been a lot worse without those three points for me in the pool, but I was disappointed after Tottenham and Arsenal both dropped points the next day.

Newcastle United is currently in the top 4. I haven't been following their games this season. Looks like another jackpot team this season, so keep an eye on the odds.
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Congrats to Darbit and LFC_Bitcoin on the yellow cap,we are sharing this prize so pretty happy with the week. Didnt expect in the end three yellow caps but thats how intresting it was. Also too bad Bournemouth didnt score at least one goal they were playing so good in the end of the match but not much chances for them.

It was a terrible week for me in the pool, I was able to rack up just 4 points in total and I dropped by 5 places all the way to 15th, Kudos to all of you guys sharing the yellow cap because It wasn't an easy week and and 10.5 points as the joint best also shows how tough the week was on an average.

I was also rooting for Bournemouth to score a goal, I had BTTS on a bet slip and I also went with 2-1 in the pool, so it could have been a win-win situation had that happened.

It was a terrible week for most. I was one point away from my second wooden spoon of the season. Lots of upsets. Nobody predicted Liverpool losing and only one person backed the Arsenal/Southampton draw. Only one person backed Newcastle to beat Spurs as well. The chubby chipmunk-faced cunt that is Casemiro caused me from losing the exact score in injury time. Anyone who got more than a handful of points from this week did very well.
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 I mean I'm liking what I see and yeah I think Arsenal is a title contender but sometimes we should hold our horses for a bit.

agree on this, also like Arsenal in the title chase, but I do not think that they will have enough power to hold there
it would be great to see them within top4 and CL next season, everything more than that will be a great success, not to comment on eventual title, that would be big surprise IMO, one of the biggest since Leicester took title

City is going to be champion in the end, and IMHO, they will secure title long before end
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Emery back in England, taking over from Gerrard at Villa, didn't think they could pull off something like that so quick. From Villareal to Villa, IIRC he was interested in the Newcastle job before deciding to stay but them yellows have not been getting good results this season.

Remember when Rodgers was favourite to get the sack first, and 4 have already been fired this season before him? Marsch look like next... and while I agree Gerrard wasn't doing his job, clubs without deep pockets have not learnt their lesson about giving managers time (look at Arteta). Where are Bournemouth and Wolves now after firing Scott and Bruno? No better results, player acquisitions that may need to be offloaded at losses, and sacking compensation on their books.




I like Emery back at the EPL and sorry to say, he's a better manager than Gerrard atm.  Can't speak for the future cos who knows.  Gerrard could still improve.  On the other hand, it could also be the same for Arteta but on the opposite side.  How can we really know if he's good?  What if Arsenal finishes 7th in the league next year?  I mean I'm liking what I see and yeah I think Arsenal is a title contender but sometimes we should hold our horses for a bit.
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