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Quote from: Hhampuz on October 23, 2022, 08:20:04 AM

Fuck me, been backing Villa throughout more or less and this day I decide to back Brentford since they sacked gerrard and all and then this happens LOL

I guess that can only mean that Gerrard lost the dressing room and players weren't able to give their best. They really looked awful in last few games and then this rhapsody today.

I am watching Arsenal game though and hoping they can score a late winner. Nobody except for City fans wants City to win the league and Arsenal seems like the only club able to give them a proper title challenge run. It is very important to pick all three points in games like this. Seems to me Arsenal lost a bit of steam, they should have dropped points in last game and today they aren't looking the best either.

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Well, glad I stuck with Villa win, but 3-1 and 3-0 predictions did not foresee this 4-goal haul (as of now). Not fun to only get 1 point despite predicting so many goals haha.

Quote from: Hhampuz on October 23, 2022, 08:20:04 AM

Fuck me, been backing Villa throughout more or less and this day I decide to back Brentford since they sacked gerrard and all and then this happens LOL

Same here, but I stuck with them. New manager bounce not quite, since they only have a caretaker. Poor Gerrard!

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on October 22, 2022, 01:09:11 PM

I didn't know much about Gerard until I heard the news of him getting axed. But I am surprised by this discussion. Isn't a bit premature to talk about Klopp's successor? Am I unaware of something Klopp said that makes people think he's going to step down? Because I really can't see LFC ownership forcing him out after one bad season.

Klopp signed one extension, when there were concerns he was going to take a sabbatical, so he will stay a couple more seasons but a lot happened during Covid (he lost a family member and he has been giving signs in past that he will not take a new role after Liverpool), and of course, at the club succession plans are already being discussed. Gerrard is not so much a current or even near future plan but there is a lot of support for him to some day come.

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Quote from: Hhampuz on October 23, 2022, 08:20:04 AM

Fuck me, been backing Villa throughout more or less and this day I decide to back Brentford since they sacked gerrard and all and then this happens LOL

Yes I am extremely surprised at Aston Villa 3-0 win so far while Brentford got a draw against Chelsea in the last game.The Gerrard drama is another thing I thought would have impacted them and not get an easy win today but Brentford looks like a non existent team on the field.

Also surprised at Leicester win away against Wolves when I thought Wolves should win this game as they are mostly a home team and Leicester if I remember correctly they have not won so far when playing away but we are early into such games.This is going to be my new worst week in the pool regarding the results.

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Fuck me, been backing Villa throughout more or less and this day I decide to back Brentford since they sacked gerrard and all and then this happens LOL

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Quote from: casperBGD on October 23, 2022, 02:52:24 AM

Quote from: Harkorede on October 22, 2022, 10:27:46 PM

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This is something I'd slightly agree with, Liverpool would have been with Mane without Salah, than with Salah no Mane, Mane have always had the best work rate and ethic between both players and often he lifts the club in attack while Salah gets most of the credit as the golden boy,

this is why I do not like FPL scoring system, Salah get much more points being executor, but Mane is the one that kept things together, and IMO more important
but it one things for FPL not to get them credit, and competely different thing is when Klopp make that mistake, he should know that - leading to maybe he just had luck to have Mane, and now lady luck leaved for Munich, to serve CL to Bavarian giant

and we stormed Palace 3:0, great

Since 2000, football has been all about statistics; a player can flop for 90 minutes and score the winning goal and be nominated for player of the week; work rate, passes, and tackles no longer matter, which is why Lampard, Xavi, Iniesta, Terry, and Puyol finished their careers without a Ballon d'or award; those of us/you who watched the game in the 1980s can tell how important defenders were duly appreciated.

Liverpool were probably more concerned about Mane's age, and the coach failed to recognize that he was the engine in his direct attacking game plan.

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Quote from: Harkorede on October 22, 2022, 12:31:53 PM

Man United vs Chelsea is still pretty much even, and it could be anyone's game.

Wow looks like the 1-1 draw I sort of requested from the game happened but what is more wow is that United probably deserved to win the game, something Potter even admitted, and yet managed to somehow rescue 1 point in the dying moments of the game.

Was it a great game if anybody managed to watch??

Yes, I watched it, and I must say that we were awful in the first half; our midfield was outnumbered for 45 minutes, and yet United failed to score; that was a good chance to end the game, but their attack was just as ineffective as our midfield. Overall, they outperformed us and deserved the point.

Manchester United and Totteham celebrate a draw against us this season, shows how far both teams have fallen.

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on October 22, 2022, 01:09:11 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on October 21, 2022, 07:15:23 AM

Anyway, I'm close to giving up. It's getting closer to a point where making my predictions at Superbru is starting to be a waste of time. Good luck to the guys at the top.

NOOooo, that's not good news for me, lol. I'm 7 places behind you at the moment, but realistically two or three good weeks could put either one of us in contention for a prize. Not that winning anything is the whole point, it's just fun to gauge my predictions against others. I hope you change your mind.

Our pool is insanely competitive this season, I make a bunch of good predictions I rise 5 places, I make like mediocre predictions and i fall 15 places. That being said I am not giving up at any point. If I fall lower in the table I will just try to gun for yellow cap instead for overall ranking.

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Quote from: Harkorede on October 22, 2022, 12:31:53 PM

Man United vs Chelsea is still pretty much even, and it could be anyone's game.

Wow looks like the 1-1 draw I sort of requested from the game happened but what is more wow is that United probably deserved to win the game, something Potter even admitted, and yet managed to somehow rescue 1 point in the dying moments of the game.

Was it a great game if anybody managed to watch??

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on October 23, 2022, 03:25:26 AM

No excuse for Liverpool. It's better to keep the mouths shut. 🤔

Quote from: Harkorede on October 22, 2022, 12:31:53 PM

Man United vs Chelsea is still pretty much even, and it could be anyone's game.

I was having this weird feeling that Chelsea match will be a draw. After seeing their last four head to head I was almost convinced that it will be a draw. Then I thought the chances for Chelsea is higher since they are in their home. Decided to go with a small margin win for them. When they scored I was happy to see I am getting 3 points until at the last minute it all turned out to be a regret LOL. When are these two teams are going to break their drawing streak 🤣?

Yes I thought that since Chelsea scored in the 88th minute it was game over and I was going to get the points in the pool only to be surprised for the worst when I saw that 94th minute goal.Chelsea has now two consecutive draws under the new coach,perhaps the magic of the new coach just ended as Manchester to tell the truth played somewhat better overall yesterday night despite them being in a scandal with Cristiano Ronaldo,they managed to get a precious point.

Yesterday results were really bad for most of the pool participants so I hope the favorites are going to win in today games.

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Quote from: Harkorede on October 22, 2022, 12:31:53 PM

Man United vs Chelsea is still pretty much even, and it could be anyone's game.

I was having this weird feeling that Chelsea match will be a draw. After seeing their last four head to head I was almost convinced that it will be a draw. Then I thought the chances for Chelsea is higher since they are in their home. Decided to go with a small margin win for them. When they scored I was happy to see I am getting 3 points until at the last minute it all turned out to be a regret LOL. When are these two teams are going to break their drawing streak 🤣?

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Quote from: Harkorede on October 22, 2022, 10:27:46 PM

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This is something I'd slightly agree with, Liverpool would have been with Mane without Salah, than with Salah no Mane, Mane have always had the best work rate and ethic between both players and often he lifts the club in attack while Salah gets most of the credit as the golden boy,

this is why I do not like FPL scoring system, Salah get much more points being executor, but Mane is the one that kept things together, and IMO more important
but it one things for FPL not to get them credit, and competely different thing is when Klopp make that mistake, he should know that - leading to maybe he just had luck to have Mane, and now lady luck leaved for Munich, to serve CL to Bavarian giant

and we stormed Palace 3:0, great

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Quote from: arallmuus on October 22, 2022, 05:04:48 PM

Quote from: Igebotz on October 22, 2022, 03:55:39 PM

When Salah looks lost in games like this, Mane makes a difference, and the decision to let Mane leave was a terrible idea, Even if some of their fan base refuses to admit it, the club would regret the priest decision at the end of the season.

Salah - Mane > KDB - Haaland

Things would have gone way differently for Liverpool if Mane stay this season. Salah needs someone to really pull up those defenders to another side while he runs in from another side just like what Mane usually did, they both done pretty much the same thing to one another but currently Salah has to do all those by himself

Imagine losing to Nottingham Forest that only scored 7 goals out of the last 12 games prior to this

This is something I'd slightly agree with, Liverpool would have been with Mane without Salah, than with Salah no Mane, Mane have always had the best work rate and ethic between both players and often he lifts the club in attack while Salah gets most of the credit as the golden boy, Mane really deserve more credit than he got at Liverpool and that's got to do the with Salah preference even by the fans, Mane covers the whole of his flank and help Robertson in defend the left flank, TAA and Salah wings weren't really exposed due to VVD and Matip being at the top of their, so it was more about defensively how good VVD and Matip plus Allison were and not which easily gets exposed to those attacking breaks.

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Quote from: swogerino on October 22, 2022, 11:15:17 AM

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Quote from: Trofo on October 22, 2022, 09:43:08 AM

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Watched second half of the game and I must say Liverpool did not impress me at all. They had some possession but Alisson was their best player and only one they can thank they did not loose 3:0. Seems like this will be a season to forget and maybe try to do something in Champions League.

Yes, statistically it is already a completely lost season. If I remember correctly, the English champions can afford to lose 20-25 points in a season. In rare cases, you can become a champion by losing a little more than 30 points. Liverpool have already lost 17 points in 11 games - less than a third of the league. Even if they use some magic and start winning every game, they literally have no right to make any mistakes.

It looks like there is no magic left for them if you see against which teams they are losing or drawing,the fact that Liverpool has lost so many points in just 11 games says a lot about them.I as a fan am not happy at all with Klopp and I think the team management needs to take serious measures to bring Liverpool at the top level again,even if it costs the replacing of the coach.

I think klopp can still do a lot for the club,liverpool really need a solution where they can deliver their magic like we’re used to.Frankly,mane’s departure for the club has left a huge, irreplaceble void.
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Liverpool must look for player who can help salah in the front line to open the defender’s gaps.
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Quote from: Igebotz on October 22, 2022, 03:55:39 PM

When Salah looks lost in games like this, Mane makes a difference, and the decision to let Mane leave was a terrible idea, Even if some of their fan base refuses to admit it, the club would regret the priest decision at the end of the season.

Salah - Mane > KDB - Haaland

Things would have gone way differently for Liverpool if Mane stay this season. Salah needs someone to really pull up those defenders to another side while he runs in from another side just like what Mane usually did, they both done pretty much the same thing to one another but currently Salah has to do all those by himself

Imagine losing to Nottingham Forest that only scored 7 goals out of the last 12 games prior to this

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Quote from: buwaytress on October 22, 2022, 12:41:33 PM

Quote from: Igebotz on October 22, 2022, 11:34:23 AM

What happened? Salah only made four successful passes all game. Another Sanchez and Hazard-type player? incoming? Liverpool made Forest look like a prime Barcelona team.

And missed first-time attempts. Many games in a row he's done that if my memory doesn't have holes. Same reason I've been saying since start. We haven't rested our boys, and I mean actual holiday/vacation time. We did that really dumb Thai thing for sponsors of course, understandable, but we played all possible games last season, everyone's just too bloody tired to regain sharpness.

Forest weren't good, we were just poor. It's a bit of a problem we're also experimenting a lot with different formations, but anyway, no excuse, we're just poor, making okay teams look good.

Champions League glory, hopefully, and/or cup progress. Just hope Arsenal don't falter as I expect because City winning again is boring.

When Salah looks lost in games like this, Mane makes a difference, and the decision to let Mane leave was a terrible idea, Even if some of their fan base refuses to admit it, the club would regret the priest decision at the end of the season.

Throughout the game, Forest had only one assignment (fall deep and play on counter), which paid off.

Is the Premier League really that difficult? Or the teams are inconsistent; it's been two months and Totteham, Chelsea, and Manchester United are still struggling.

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Quote from: Woodie on October 20, 2022, 11:53:13 PM

Finally, my first yellow cap and it didn't even bump me several places up as I thought it would Roll Eyes

, I guess the competition in this pool is outrageous and needs one to be on top of their game to be among the top.

Congrats on the yellow cap, I hope to get one some day, lol. This is my third year participating, and I have yet to even come close.

Quote from: buwaytress on October 22, 2022, 06:35:13 AM

I still think Gerrard wasn't quite ready, as I am sure I mentioned last season. I was of course happy for him when he took Villa, and it seemed initially pretty much a match made in heaven, and I know Klopp also eyes him as a successor (if not immediately, then spiritually).

Him helming Liverpool I believe is what the fans and club want, but they all know it's not going to be for a while more. Experience, wisdom, you can only buy those with time.

I didn't know much about Gerard until I heard the news of him getting axed. But I am surprised by this discussion. Isn't a bit premature to talk about Klopp's successor? Am I unaware of something Klopp said that makes people think he's going to step down? Because I really can't see LFC ownership forcing him out after one bad season.

Quote from: tokeweed on October 21, 2022, 07:15:23 AM

Anyway, I'm close to giving up. It's getting closer to a point where making my predictions at Superbru is starting to be a waste of time. Good luck to the guys at the top.

NOOooo, that's not good news for me, lol. I'm 7 places behind you at the moment, but realistically two or three good weeks could put either one of us in contention for a prize. Not that winning anything is the whole point, it's just fun to gauge my predictions against others. I hope you change your mind.

Well, this weekend's predictions have been rather difficult for me. So many potential upsets, including MU keeping Chelsea from scoring at home. It feels like any correct prediction I come up with this weekend is pure luck.

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Quote from: Igebotz on October 22, 2022, 11:34:23 AM

What happened? Salah only made four successful passes all game. Another Sanchez and Hazard-type player? incoming? Liverpool made Forest look like a prime Barcelona team.

And missed first-time attempts. Many games in a row he's done that if my memory doesn't have holes. Same reason I've been saying since start. We haven't rested our boys, and I mean actual holiday/vacation time. We did that really dumb Thai thing for sponsors of course, understandable, but we played all possible games last season, everyone's just too bloody tired to regain sharpness.

Forest weren't good, we were just poor. It's a bit of a problem we're also experimenting a lot with different formations, but anyway, no excuse, we're just poor, making okay teams look good.

Champions League glory, hopefully, and/or cup progress. Just hope Arsenal don't falter as I expect because City winning again is boring.

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Nottm Forest vs Liverpool, Let it not surprise us please.

I wouldn't mind a surprise, in a different way, I went for a Liverpool win of course but if I lose and everyone else loses (like what happened with brighton lol) then I don't mind.

United vs Chelsea is the one everyone needs to surprise us though, and not with 0-0!! I have BTTS and since we have no Ronaldo playing I think the team will be very very different style.

What else can I say, they've won at City twice this season, but they've lost more than that to teams way worse from City, I wouldn't say Nottingham deserve to win the game but it's just hard a loss to after just winning against Man City a few days ago.

Man United vs Chelsea is still pretty much even, and it could be anyone's game.

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Quote from: swogerino on October 22, 2022, 11:15:17 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on October 22, 2022, 10:41:48 AM

Yes, statistically it is already a completely lost season. If I remember correctly, the English champions can afford to lose 20-25 points in a season. In rare cases, you can become a champion by losing a little more than 30 points. Liverpool have already lost 17 points in 11 games - less than a third of the league. Even if they use some magic and start winning every game, they literally have no right to make any mistakes.

It looks like there is no magic left for them if you see against which teams they are losing or drawing,the fact that Liverpool has lost so many points in just 11 games says a lot about them.I as a fan am not happy at all with Klopp and I think the team management needs to take serious measures to bring Liverpool at the top level again,even if it costs the replacing of the coach.

This team is really volatile and with such high volatility good things usually do not happen.For the moment they are doing some what better in Champions League but once out the group stages chances are high Liverpool to get eliminated there and more weight will be emphasized in the Premier League,I am one that thinks better take measures early in where something can be saved of the season rather than taking measures when everything have ended.

Even in the Champions League, I would say that 1-4 from Napoli is an unacceptable result. But in general, it is too early to think about changing Klopp - the team is still playing in a suboptimal line-up and we need to look at the results when the team is in the "planned" composition. On the other hand, you can't wait until the situation comes to a situation like with Atlético Madrid, where it seems to me that Simeone has already exhausted all his ideas and the team is slowly but steadily degrading from year to year. Even good coaches need to be fired sometimes, this is an unpleasant reality.

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Quote from: buwaytress on October 22, 2022, 06:35:13 AM

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So, what happens to Countinho now that Steven Gerrard has left? Steven was the only one who remained hopeful and attempted to resurrect his career, and he turned down offers from other clubs to play for Villa because of S. Gerrard.

No idea, but yeah they kind of ran him ragged at Villa, he was not only hard running, he was twisting all over the place way too often and way too desperately. Felt so bad for him.

He was desperate for a permanent contract and to show that he was still relevant in Europe; he played well in his few games last season but has fallen off this season ( for the few times I have watched him this season)

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Quote from: swogerino on October 21, 2022, 07:37:23 AM

Who knows what Gerrard can bring to Liverpool?As an ex player I am sure his motivation to managing Liverpool would be at least several times higher than managing Aston Villa,for him Aston Villa was a learning experience which lasted as it lasted but a few things I am sure Gerrard has learned there.

In fact I would like to see someone from Liverpool managing the team,and I would not be sad if Gerrard took over,I think Klopp era has ended in the sense that he has got nothing more to give to the club,for this year this comes especially more true than ever.

I still think Gerrard wasn't quite ready, as I am sure I mentioned last season. I was of course happy for him when he took Villa, and it seemed initially pretty much a match made in heaven, and I know Klopp also eyes him as a successor (if not immediately, then spiritually).

Him helming Liverpool I believe is what the fans and club want, but they all know it's not going to be for a while more. Experience, wisdom, you can only buy those with time.

I hope Liverpool does not make the same mistake that Chelsea did with Lampard. Steven is not ready for the bigger challenge and pressure of managing a team like Liverpool right now, and he lacks the experience to manage a large group of players. Staying with the Rangers might have been a better option for gaining more experience.

What happened? Salah only made four successful passes all game. Another Sanchez and Hazard-type player? incoming? Liverpool made Forest look like a prime Barcelona team.

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 22, 2022, 10:41:48 AM

Quote from: Trofo on October 22, 2022, 09:43:08 AM

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Watched second half of the game and I must say Liverpool did not impress me at all. They had some possession but Alisson was their best player and only one they can thank they did not loose 3:0. Seems like this will be a season to forget and maybe try to do something in Champions League.

Yes, statistically it is already a completely lost season. If I remember correctly, the English champions can afford to lose 20-25 points in a season. In rare cases, you can become a champion by losing a little more than 30 points. Liverpool have already lost 17 points in 11 games - less than a third of the league. Even if they use some magic and start winning every game, they literally have no right to make any mistakes.

It looks like there is no magic left for them if you see against which teams they are losing or drawing,the fact that Liverpool has lost so many points in just 11 games says a lot about them.I as a fan am not happy at all with Klopp and I think the team management needs to take serious measures to bring Liverpool at the top level again,even if it costs the replacing of the coach.

This team is really volatile and with such high volatility good things usually do not happen.For the moment they are doing some what better in Champions League but once out the group stages chances are high Liverpool to get eliminated there and more weight will be emphasized in the Premier League,I am one that thinks better take measures early in where something can be saved of the season rather than taking measures when everything have ended.

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