Topic: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread - page 253. (Read 140819 times)

Yeah, I just looked it up, and yes, I'm impressed with Liverpool's business since Klopp took over. With the way they're buying players, it's easy to think they're overspending without realizing they're getting more than they're paying for. My club, Chelsea, is one of the top five clubs in terms of net spending, and as the club with the most loaned out players, I believe it is time to focus more on cashing in on them rather than loaning for free. In any case, only 3% of them make it back to our main squad.

Manchester United, the English club with the most debt, has spent the most money since 2017 with nothing to show for it. One of England's worst-run clubs.

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Chelsea and Raheem Sterling reached an agreement on personal terms worth £300k/week. This would make him the club's highest-paid player. he's one of the league's best wingers, we needed someone with his pace and 1v1 dribble success.


Here We Go!!
Igehhh will be on board for the first time.
CLS63 & Harkorede - time for revenge!! Both of you dumbed on me @AFCON pool. 

Sportsbet.io acted generously as always. I'd like to thank Steve, jeremypwr, hilariousandco and all the sportsbet.io workers. Besides I'd like to thank Hhampuz for free slots. We are definitely going to be over 50 people this year. I'm also going to try to make the payment until August 6.


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Hup hup! Just saw the invite and accepted, Harko got ahead of me, the fast bastard. Just sent my dues so will update in the payment thread presently.

Once I see an update of the list of people paying (I'll do so by end of week) I'll go poking around to stir past participants. Awesome of Sportsbet and jeremypwr and co for putting up such a prize. BTC = 100k in 2023, right? And thanks to Hhampuz for putting up free slots (!).

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I got the invite from my email already, I'll definitely be joining in, I'll should send my payment later during the day or tomorrow.

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Got the 0.2 from Sportsbet so huge thanks to them and jeremypwr for sorting that out. It's 0.0025 to join and first place will be a guaranteed 0.1. The rest of the money will be split between 2nd to 10th places like last year. There will again be a free $50 bet to every weekly winner who scores the most points that round so that's 38 chances to win a free $50 bet. All you need to do is win one round and you've pretty much got your money back.

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North London is just where all the clubs to go are is why the player was picked up there so party clubs not football clubs

also igehhh net spend for Liverpool was still outside top 10, and even less than Everton and Villa and Arsenal in last 10 years, I remember because they were just a few million more than my club Spurs, which made me feel quite ashamed  

This was end of last season before they got Darwin of course but they balance it out also with all their sales I think.

So you could say they have spent 500 but only because they got in a lot of money. I think there is a difference of spending with borrowed money (bank loan or owner money like United and City) and with revenue (like Arsenal or Liverpool). This is like saying I spend $5 and you spend $5, but I have $5 in my pocket from my job, you borrowed $5 to spend it.

This is the center of what makes fans angry with spending.

Still very envious Liverpool bought players and manage to sell so far almost everyone more than what they paid for. Very good businessmen at their transfer shop. How you can sell even players like Minamino for profit is amazing. Though that is not as important as market value.

But the news I read do not say north London club, they just say that the player is arrested at north London. So it could be a club from there but it could also be a player living there or just being there when cops picked him up.

not in UK, but looking at Spurs squad, could be Son (Korea), Ben Davies (Wels) and Lucas Moura (Brasil), not sure that Moura is secure for WC anyway
all 29 years, Kane is few days short, still 28 years (now I know his birthday )

since there is no news about name, and a lot of sensationalism, I would bet on Davies or Moura, if Hotspur player is in question

looking at Arsenal, there are Xhaka (Swiss) or Partey (Ghana) - he is actually injured

AFAIK, Chelsea is not considered north London club, it is from West

@uk residents

You guys have any info what player has been arrested yesterday? From what info I managed to find, he is very famous, plays for national team in upcoming world cup, 29 years old and he got arrested in north London on rape charges.

I am sure local papers are full off it.

Klopp has always been that kind of guy! In the 2019 Champions League final, Becker Alisson was named Man of the Match, and Klop stated that his team was the best in the world, with GK Alison being the best player in the world. Last year, when Real Madrid's GK Cortious put in a world-class performance against them in the Champions League final and was named Man of the Match, Klopp went to their media and lamented, saying, "When the GK is Man of the Match, something is wrong for the other team." Klopp has always been bitter with other teams and found himself doing the same thing.

When he first arrived, he complained about how Manchester City were buying the league with money, as if the EPL was a Budesliga where you could take a few Academy players and go to war. After a few years, Klop was the first to buy the most expensive GK and defender.

Are you still spending Countinho's money, Liverpool fans? This has been the excuse of Liverpool fans for many years! Countinho left nearly 8 years ago, and your team has spent over £500 million on players with no good player sales? 

He's quite smart with it. He knows what to say and when and he always has enough room to wiggle out of some of it. He'll say that Nunez has way lower salary and agent fees and that the deal is nowhere near Haaland's, although we all know it is close.
He's been doing it for a while but he's so charismatic that he gets away with it. A great trait to have - a lot can be done through the media if you know how to play that game.

@Trofo: Haha I think Klopp is just like most managers, absolutely human and absolutely some people and teams get to him (Pep and City, Simeone and Atletico, come to mind).

What he says isn't as solid as what club policy will evolve to be (FSG are hard to read really) -- and yeah personally I didn't think we'd ever pay for Salah, but there's a slew of data and experts club's hired to eke out cost-efficiency and I guess the numbers must tally.

The big buys and the big wages will run through those data again end of season and if they don't work out, we go back to the drawing board.

Oh and Jesus is a Gunner. Next Sterling I thought but suddenly Silva wants away too. Trouble in paradise?


That's a shame! Consider putting in picks way early, like I did for several rounds. Gut's pretty reliable if you're following the games enough, and you can always just follow bookmaker odds for 2/3 games ahead. I might even do like others have in the past and "sponsor" some free slots.

I have been in a self-imposed gambling slowdown (not break, just a lot less frequent and a lot lower amounts) for the past couple of months or so. Also not sure I'll resume "normal" levels in the new season. Real life also getting hectic and while I don't necessarily spend a lot of collective hours paining over my bets, they're still a sort of distraction that eats into my real life. Which has never been an issue until recently, taking on more responsibilities.


I really enjoyed his games for us too, he and Henderson (though latter not so much last season I felt), great at breaking up, setting rhythm, calming influence. Hendo's legs are clearly going though so our midfield is actually most problematic area now. The youngins trying to break through, none have really convinced me, Elliott maybe, Jones not so much, but you know they're young still.

he is probably counting on fan approval, and not remembering every word that he is saying, and that would certainly work until there are results
but will probably fall apart when results are bad

nevertheless, it is good to see any team that can fight with City, but it will much harder without Mane, now it will be seen what Salah can do on his own, he is much more prominent star than Mane, but Mane got him twice on National team level, where they were not together, maybe he will take him in Bayern clash too

If they let Salah go by not offering that wage he wanted then Liverpool would have been in big trouble fighting for the title,Salah is one of the key players and yes they absolutely did the right thing to offer that kind of wage about 400.000 Sterlings weekly for Salah,something never done before at Liverpool if I recall correctly.

That is the only way they can keep hopes up to fight for the title,their overall structure is still great and a Championship winning one even with the move of Mane to Bayern Munchen.They need to just do one thing better this upcoming season and that is to not lose points with weaker teams.

@all you Liverpool supporters here

What do you say about Klopp contradictory statements? I am now writing from my head so I am sorry if I misquoted but the gist should be correct.

Klopp when Pep buys Grealish, "We will never pay 100M for the player", buys Nunez for 100M  

Klopp about contract wage, "We will never break our wage structure ", Salah signs new deal and breaks it with something to spare  

Don't get me wrong, I still think they did the right thing and it is difficult, if not impossible, to fight with City without spending those amounts but it is funny how much he changed narrative in one year.

I read all details about superbru and feeling comfortable with this now waiting for your announcement about fees and happy for my first season in this entertaining competition good luck.

Hate to say it, but Gini was brilliant for breaking up play, and holding onto the ball when needed. Obviously, that meant at times we weren't as attacking, but there's a balance. We leak goals because of our high line. I don't think its the quality of the midfield per say, its just that high line can get caught out from time to time. However, it works most of the time.

City, are especially good at breaking our high line, and anyone with a decent play maker. I actually think that's partly the reason we lost so heavily against Aston Villa. There was obviously other reasons at play there too.

As for a new signing. I'm not sure. Bellingham would be the one for the future, but he's a little bit raw at the moment.

Well, I had one heck of an abysmal performance in the pool. I think I'll take a break from it next year to focus on other things I need to clear out in 2022.


Exactly! The midfield is the big reason why we did not get enough points to beat City to the title (we kept leaking goals).

I am actually not so sure who they should sign for that, but they really should sign a left midfielder right now. Hendo is starting to get rusty, and Ox is not trusted enough to start there. (I wouldn't be surprised if he is sold this year).

I have no clue honestly. Any guesses here?

Pep prefers to have a CF striker and a ST striker in his squad; at Bayern Munich, he had Muller as ST and Lewandowski as CF; when he arrived at Manchester City, they only had Aguero as a CF, so he brought G. Jesus as ST, and now that Aguero and G. Jesus (who is leaving for Arsenal) are gone, I can see why he bought Haaland, who is more of a CF, and Julian Alvarez, who is more of a ST, as perfect replacements for the upcoming season.


Haaland may face difficulties because he is more of a target striker than a ball-playing striker; he was never Pep's first choice striker, but they needed to fill in for Aguero. Harry Kane was his first choice.

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Sure. Thank you.

No pitch forks from me, I had my doubts about Pulisic, Werner, Havertz (and at least 2 of them seemed destined for Liverpool too), Bundesliga is tough, but EPL is just different.

Haaland, I like the guy, actually! A bit of a showboat, but actually with a dash of humility and fun so I know he's just enjoying himself as a young lad, nothing more. See, Haaland made sense when you had City doing the same old "spray passes up and down the wing until there's space, cutback to centre, someone scores". He'd be getting goals served up to him over and over.

And I think he'll do well, but as Trofo says, I'm just not sure Pep's the right coach to do that.

Happy to be proven wrong and see him thrive, cause I really like him.

But absolutely, I'm not worried about him. And actually a lot less worried about City this season than the past few. That's not arrogance in Liverpool's superiority (City are still the better overall team at collecting points), just a lingering memory of how badly they played a lot of games last season.


Sterling, Jesus (they're leaving, just don't know the details as of yet). And if they somehow end up staying, then we know we have unhappy players and Pep, if I know him, refuses to play unhappy players. He'll want them out because they want out. He won't play them if they're stuck around, so he can force them out by January.

You're right about Pep and strikers, but I feel like Pep/Klopp want to change things around this season.

Crazy that 2 top teams who play the most modern styles now both went for all-out strikers each huh?

Klopp also hasn't had one in a long time and doesn't seem to like them since coming to Liverpool (admittedly I don't know much about his Mainz or BVB days but Lewie was probably the last striker Klopp formed a squad around to my recent memory? After Auba?). I actually can't name any striker Klopp brought in to Liverpool apart from Nunez... Firmino was already there when he arrived and he turned him into something of a shadow striker haha.