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@igehhh That's a lot of things for anyone to be aware of!

Call me a fool and you the superfan but the Club changing their icon temporarily to Senegal colours, posting a full Banner of Mane saying congratulations minutes after he won, and me reading the Mane man of tournament report on our official website... were they supposed to fly a plane and banner and build a statue for him?

I'm really not aware of social media stuff, and I'm happy to be completely ignorant and unaware as I enjoy my life and enjoy my football.

Anyway, moot point, there's tribalism but there's clubism (I made the word up) and everything else is just noise. Glad there are people reading more into stuff than there is =)
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Also, you should watch the AFCON scenes, Mane and Salah as victor/loser, that's where you see the true brotherhood. They had their bad times, as all brothers-in-arm do. I even seen Hendo get worked up with Trent, or with Fabinbo or Thiago, but I would never go so far as to say there was bad blood. In the end, it actually worked for the team rather than against.
Are you aware of how Liverpool treated Mane after he won Salah and became AFCON champion? Are you aware that Liverpool never congratulated Mane, Salah is placed above every other player on the team, and his opinion is superior to the other players'.

Are you also aware that the entire Senegalese community wanted Mane to leave the club? And Mane confirmed it, saying he would do whatever his country wanted! Mane was not receiving the same amount of love and energy he was giving to the club.

Liverpool broke the bank to make Salah the highest-paid player in club history, but couldn't raise Mane's salary by a few percent?

Mane and Salah were never brothers; they were simply professional teammates on the field.

 Bayer first tweet was to congratulate Mane for winning AFCON. A dip at Liverpool.



Chelsea has signed Raheem Sterling and Koulbaily, Todd Boehly is cooking!

I want every Liverpool and Manchester United fan's apologies to be as loud as your disrespect was!  Grin when the time is right
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Now Salah has all the possibilities to become Golden Boot of the Premier League running undisturbed from competition to score as many goals as he can.The team now without Mane will most probably be playing heavily to assist Salah and score goals to win the games.This is normal behavior from any team when you have a star player like Salah playing for you,Liverpool bypassed all limits and borders when offered him the new contract at 400.000 Pound weekly so I believe it is a sure thing the team will focus heavily to assist Salah.

Most of the time when a team has two star players,they usually end up not winning the league because of misunderstandings from both the players,while in Premier League this is not so common,trust me in Italy this is a massive phenomena which has cost the title to Inter Milan several times.

I am not really sure about this to be honest. When Liverpool played with Firmino, Salah and Mane were the actual strikers. Same was with Jota - but it was already seen last season with Mane centrally that he occupied a part of the space where Salah wants to be.

Nunez is a proper no. 9 player. He is a pure striker that will want that space for himself and Salah will be forced to play more like a winger and less like the main target man. We'll see how he'll adapt to the role, hopefully he'll be better than he was at the end of last season.

I know but isn't it right for him to be the main man of Liverpool as he is being paid the biggest amount that Liverpool has ever spent for a player in their history in contract,that 400.000 Gbp weekly.They will want to make good use of it and not let Salah adapt but let others adapt in the favor of Salah.If I were the coach this is what I would be doing,trying to find the harmony of all team members but especially I would be concerned more about the harmony of the main player of Liverpool which in these last couple of years has always been Salah.This is just my opinion,Nunez maybe a great striker and maybe Salah can play really comfortably as a wing man but if they do like that,I am afraid they have to forget the title fight against Manchester City.
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Salah: a selfless player? Nah Mane believes otherwise; they had a collision earlier last season, and Mane claimed Salah was too selfish in games; Buwaytress can you attest to this? I didn't get the whole story, but I knew they were having problems.
I remember writing about that Mane/Salah relationship here on the forum in that season when they were both gunning for golden boot award. It really looked like they don't want to assist each other in some lower importance games or when result is already heavily in LFC favour.

When they played though important games it was not evident from TV coverage. So I say there was some bad blood there for sure, but nothing that really had impact on club results.

I've always said this about forwards: you do need to be selfish, at the right times. If you've watched enough games where you're getting 10 chances and they're trying to pass it into goal rather than just shoot, then you know how frustrating it can be. I loved Firmino because he was a foil, but if you play him alone, he's just trying to get everyone else to score instead of trying. That's where/why Salah and Mane were so good, they were selfish enough, and competitive.

So yes, the "downside" is you can get at each other, both trying to score. Anyone who plays also knows the frustration of seeing someone miss when the seemingly obvious option was you -- and that happened with Mane/Salah.

But it's the right kind of selfishness. The assists they both got speak for themselves, and btw, Mane/Salah assist-goal tally was the highest in the league for the 5 years they played together. Only Son/Kane got more in the last 2 seasons, but they operate as a front-two, whereas Mane/Salah are (usually) wingers.

Also, you should watch the AFCON scenes, Mane and Salah as victor/loser, that's where you see the true brotherhood. They had their bad times, as all brothers-in-arm do. I even seen Hendo get worked up with Trent, or with Fabinbo or Thiago, but I would never go so far as to say there was bad blood. In the end, it actually worked for the team rather than against.

Now Salah has all the possibilities to become Golden Boot of the Premier League running undisturbed from competition to score as many goals as he can.The team now without Mane will most probably be playing heavily to assist Salah and score goals to win the games.This is normal behavior from any team when you have a star player like Salah playing for you,Liverpool bypassed all limits and borders when offered him the new contract at 400.000 Pound weekly so I believe it is a sure thing the team will focus heavily to assist Salah.

Most of the time when a team has two star players,they usually end up not winning the league because of misunderstandings from both the players,while in Premier League this is not so common,trust me in Italy this is a massive phenomena which has cost the title to Inter Milan several times.

The minute Klopp sees this as a problem, he'll fix it. He's not afraid to take players down a peg or two or give them time to cool their head.
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Now Salah has all the possibilities to become Golden Boot of the Premier League running undisturbed from competition to score as many goals as he can.The team now without Mane will most probably be playing heavily to assist Salah and score goals to win the games.This is normal behavior from any team when you have a star player like Salah playing for you,Liverpool bypassed all limits and borders when offered him the new contract at 400.000 Pound weekly so I believe it is a sure thing the team will focus heavily to assist Salah.

Most of the time when a team has two star players,they usually end up not winning the league because of misunderstandings from both the players,while in Premier League this is not so common,trust me in Italy this is a massive phenomena which has cost the title to Inter Milan several times.

I am not really sure about this to be honest. When Liverpool played with Firmino, Salah and Mane were the actual strikers. Same was with Jota - but it was already seen last season with Mane centrally that he occupied a part of the space where Salah wants to be.

Nunez is a proper no. 9 player. He is a pure striker that will want that space for himself and Salah will be forced to play more like a winger and less like the main target man. We'll see how he'll adapt to the role, hopefully he'll be better than he was at the end of last season.
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Due to his age, the odds of matching Messi's Ballon d'Or awards are almost nonexistent. They have both past their prime and won't ever compete for the prize again.

I thought Messi was too old last year, tbh, but he still won it, which is why I made the quip about PSG.  I know it's the most prestigious of soccer awards, but honestly I don't know how it's judged.  All I know is that Salah wasn't even in consideration a couple of years ago when he had more goals than anyone else in Europe, and if there ever was a selfless player on the pitch, he's one.
Measi had a good year in 2021, winning the Copa America and Copa derel, scoring over 40 goals and winning all individual awards at the Copa America tournament, Lewandaoski and Jorginho also had a good season, but Salah went trophyless.

Salah: a selfless player? Nah Mane believes otherwise; they had a collision earlier last season, and Mane claimed Salah was too selfish in games; Buwaytress can you attest to this? I didn't get the whole story, but I knew they were having problems.
I remember writing about that Mane/Salah relationship here on the forum in that season when they were both gunning for golden boot award. It really looked like they don't want to assist each other in some lower importance games or when result is already heavily in LFC favour.

When they played though important games it was not evident from TV coverage. So I say there was some bad blood there for sure, but nothing that really had impact on club results.

Now Salah has all the possibilities to become Golden Boot of the Premier League running undisturbed from competition to score as many goals as he can.The team now without Mane will most probably be playing heavily to assist Salah and score goals to win the games.This is normal behavior from any team when you have a star player like Salah playing for you,Liverpool bypassed all limits and borders when offered him the new contract at 400.000 Pound weekly so I believe it is a sure thing the team will focus heavily to assist Salah.

Most of the time when a team has two star players,they usually end up not winning the league because of misunderstandings from both the players,while in Premier League this is not so common,trust me in Italy this is a massive phenomena which has cost the title to Inter Milan several times.
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Due to his age, the odds of matching Messi's Ballon d'Or awards are almost nonexistent. They have both past their prime and won't ever compete for the prize again.

I thought Messi was too old last year, tbh, but he still won it, which is why I made the quip about PSG.  I know it's the most prestigious of soccer awards, but honestly I don't know how it's judged.  All I know is that Salah wasn't even in consideration a couple of years ago when he had more goals than anyone else in Europe, and if there ever was a selfless player on the pitch, he's one.
Measi had a good year in 2021, winning the Copa America and Copa derel, scoring over 40 goals and winning all individual awards at the Copa America tournament, Lewandaoski and Jorginho also had a good season, but Salah went trophyless.

Salah: a selfless player? Nah Mane believes otherwise; they had a collision earlier last season, and Mane claimed Salah was too selfish in games; Buwaytress can you attest to this? I didn't get the whole story, but I knew they were having problems.
I remember writing about that Mane/Salah relationship here on the forum in that season when they were both gunning for golden boot award. It really looked like they don't want to assist each other in some lower importance games or when result is already heavily in LFC favour.

When they played though important games it was not evident from TV coverage. So I say there was some bad blood there for sure, but nothing that really had impact on club results.
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Due to his age, the odds of matching Messi's Ballon d'Or awards are almost nonexistent. They have both past their prime and won't ever compete for the prize again.

I thought Messi was too old last year, tbh, but he still won it, which is why I made the quip about PSG.  I know it's the most prestigious of soccer awards, but honestly I don't know how it's judged.  All I know is that Salah wasn't even in consideration a couple of years ago when he had more goals than anyone else in Europe, and if there ever was a selfless player on the pitch, he's one.
Measi had a good year in 2021, winning the Copa America and Copa derel, scoring over 40 goals and winning all individual awards at the Copa America tournament, Lewandaoski and Jorginho also had a good season, but Salah went trophyless.

Salah: a selfless player? Nah Mane believes otherwise; they had a collision earlier last season, and Mane claimed Salah was too selfish in games; Buwaytress can you attest to this? I didn't get the whole story, but I knew they were having problems.
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Yeah, United is giving us a proper spanking, it's never nice to see that.

Lol, that's a cheap way of getting revenge for having a shitty season last year.  Grin
Has Rashford played for United or not, if he did, did he look ok, or? I know he did not score. I am wondering since he has great price in Fantasy and if we could get Rashford from two seasons before it would be a bargain. Last season was very poor for him and even though I am not United supporter, I really hope he will get back on right track.
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Can't argue with that, I guess what I meant to say was that he doesn't seem selfish on the field.  Grin
He is! His assist statistics speak for themselves; last season, he played 30 matches, scored 18 goals, and only had 3 assists. Every club where he has played, he consistently ranks last in assists. He is only knows how to score.

You make a good point.  

Lol. He still aims to catch Messi for the Ballon d'Or, so he won't be leaving Europe anytime soon.
What do you really think are the odds of Renaldo matching or passing Messi's number of Ballon d'Or awards?  I mean, he's never played for PSG!
Due to his age, the odds of matching Messi's Ballon d'Or awards are almost nonexistent. They have both past their prime and won't ever compete for the prize again.

I thought Messi was too old last year, tbh, but he still won it, which is why I made the quip about PSG.  I know it's the most prestigious of soccer awards, but honestly I don't know how it's judged.  All I know is that Salah wasn't even in consideration a couple of years ago when he had more goals than anyone else in Europe, and if there ever was a selfless player on the pitch, he's one.


Yeah, United is giving us a proper spanking, it's never nice to see that.

Lol, that's a cheap way of getting revenge for having a shitty season last year.  Grin
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I don't trust strikers from the Bundesliga.
oh i hear ya, i know a thing or two about Bundesflop strikers, especially after Real Madrid signed Luka FlopJovic  Grin
It never ends well! When Michy Batshauyi, a Chelsea flop went to Dortmund and became the Messiah and scored 7 goals in his first 9 games before getting injured, I knew the league was in shit. Grin

Yeah, United is giving us a proper spanking, it's never nice to see that.

Still - their lineup was way stronger (basically all seniors while we had 5 kids in the team) and they are a week ahead in their physical preparation due to their season being way shorter than ours.

A friendly game so no harm done, but still - it's United and I wish that it did not happen.

Whether friendly or not, banter MUST be served  Grin! At least they stopped Liverpool supporters from saying, "We won United with our B team."

Were Liverpool supporters anticipating ETH to start with a young team? Nah! He is under a lot of pressure to prove himself unlike Klopp. Liverpool, however, fielded a full squad after falling behind 3-0.
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if you can't beat them in regular season, do that in friendly match, new United moto
nevertheless, will be interesting to see United in the season, can they repeat this one, I do not think so, but as already said, City is top, and Liverpool is better than the rest, but closer to them than to City
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Yeah, United is giving us a proper spanking, it's never nice to see that.

Still - their lineup was way stronger (basically all seniors while we had 5 kids in the team) and they are a week ahead in their physical preparation due to their season being way shorter than ours.

A friendly game so no harm done, but still - it's United and I wish that it did not happen.
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I don't trust strikers from the Bundesliga.
oh i hear ya, i know a thing or two about Bundesflop strikers, especially after Real Madrid signed Luka FlopJovic  Grin

Very underrated player imho.  And what do you mean by 'big if'.  Is Haaland prone to injuries?  I think it's still too early to say he's injury prone.  He's still so young.
to me Rodri is easily one of the best in his position, world-class, right up there with the likes of Casemiro and Fabinho
And yeah, Haaland is injury prone, or at least that what it looked like last season. I remember Pep saying that the Man City medical staff was aware of it when they signed him and that they're confident it's not a big issue, but we'll see
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New kid Carvalho, fullbacks I never heard of before (shame on me) and Bobby leading the line in Thailand, started seeing when down 1-0 to a Sancho goal but we're playing much better (passes, accuracy, attempts). We're now 3-0 down though haha but United playing a proper first eleven!

We do have an entire squad more than United on the bench, so this is going to be some kind of musical chairs game I bet!

Also, didn't realise actually I'd not joined up the pool yet (didn't click on the link Capt'n sent to me till now), though had paid much earlier. #15 to join, hope to see the rest of you gentlemen in there -- only weeks to the first game!

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best and worst signings you ask? I think Kalvin Phillips will be a flop. He's the most overrated english player right now imo, paying almost 50M for him is a daylight robbery... best sigining, Haaland. He'll prolly score like 30+ goals or something if he can stay injury free (big if).

Yup, same gut feeling here.  He's gonna be something like the Nathan Ake signing from Bournemouth.  I think Ake's transfer fee was over 40m GBP?  Could be wrong.  But yeah... 

Another great move that Man City did was extend Rodri's contract.  That guy is the unsung hero of the club.  Very underrated player imho.  And what do you mean by 'big if'.  Is Haaland prone to injuries?  I think it's still too early to say he's injury prone.  He's still so young.
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There is pre-season match-up coming up in about 30 minutes from now between Manchester United and Liverpool.
Friendly of course since we have around 24 days until the season officially starts so can't wait for that day to finally come.
Wouldn't have known about this match if it wasn't on a youtuber's channel and received the notification just now that his stream will be starting in 15 minutes.
He also did a friendly between Arsenal vs Numberg last week where the german squad went up 1-0 to the gunners.
We'll see how a Pobga less red devils squad will fair against a Liverpool team who probably won't put on their best players for this match. But we will see. Their next match is against Melbourne Victory from the Australia football league.

Probably this match is exactly as being in a training session of each team,but now they are doing it together by playing against each other.I doubt this event will be spectacular and most likely both teams will try all the players as that is what friendlies are for in the beginning.They are made to test all the players even those who has not played many matches.I think it will end in a draw if the game is quiet but if for some reason one of the teams scores the first goal that can spark the other team response and we can see a friendly game with a lot of goals.

For the next game with the Australian league team I think there is no need for comment here  Grin.
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There is pre-season match-up coming up in about 30 minutes from now between Manchester United and Liverpool.
Friendly of course since we have around 24 days until the season officially starts so can't wait for that day to finally come.
Wouldn't have known about this match if it wasn't on a youtuber's channel and received the notification just now that his stream will be starting in 15 minutes.
He also did a friendly between Arsenal vs Numberg last week where the german squad went up 1-0 to the gunners.
We'll see how a Pobga less red devils squad will fair against a Liverpool team who probably won't put on their best players for this match. But we will see. Their next match is against Melbourne Victory from the Australia football league.
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Werner, who came to the premier league and underperformed expectations, had a better goal ratio in the Bundesliga than Halaand. I don't trust strikers from the Bundesliga. I'm not sure if Halaand would score above or up to 20 goals in his first season because G. Jesus, who spent six years at Manchester City, never scored more than 17 league goals per season; his highest total was 16.

He would be up against good defenders and not some random part-time farmers in Bundesliga.
You sure about that goal ratio? Because if you are thinking on goals scored in his last Bundesliga season, than sure. If you are talking about goal involment per actual games or minutes played I don't think that is true. Haaland missed a lot of games last season due to injury, otherwise his numbers would be way higher.
Werner led Leipzig to the champions league on his own, and he is currently Leipzig's all-time leading scorer with 95 goals. I believe Werner had a greater impact in the Bundesliga than Halaand did. In his last two Bundesliga seasons, he had strike rates of 0.57/90 minutes and 0.9/90 minutes, respectively.
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Haaland is much better finisher than Werner, Werner was missing heaps of chances in bundesliga as well but he had enough of them to still score often. Not the case in England.
You're right, but Werner is a better team player than Halaand, and I'd rather have that on my team than someone who can only attack. If Werner improved the accuracy of his shots, by the time he gets to 30 he would be among the best.


Who would have thought that a relegation bond Raphinha would be the talk of every single day like he's Messi or Ronaldo? The Chelsea vs. Barcelona Raphinha saga is getting boring. Just because most players want to play for Barcelona the broke club is creating a nuisance in the transfer market.
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best and worst signings you ask? I think Kalvin Phillips will be a flop. He's the most overrated english player right now imo, paying almost 50M for him is a daylight robbery... best sigining, Haaland. He'll prolly score like 30+ goals or something if he can stay injury free (big if).

I honestly never watched him play but City would not be buying him if he was not decent right? I tend to really not look much at English players who are overrated,,, like even my own player Kane, they seem to perform worse when rated. Though for players not really rated like Trent (Liverpool rate him high but can you imagine no club wants to buy him or even Southgate does not like him???) I really think they are awesome.

Haaland I think can do 15-20 goals but he does have to score 30+ for him to not be a flop, at his price tag! Same about Nunez!

I was waiting for if I could trick DireWolfM14 about if I'm a U.S.A citizen or not but I have given up.  Cheesy I made my payment a short time ago and I have got my place in the pool. Even though we seem to be not many people I'm predicting that we are going to reach 50+ people this year. It is going to be a really very tough pool.

Haha this makes my day,,, I would play the offer for others but I doubt there are many people from my country on this forum, or I never met them. Not even on Sportsbet chat!!
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