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Time for me to shake off the dust and try again this season, I made a small spot late on and feel so much regret for a few game selections that would have enabled me to get top 2 but in the end, we must be grateful for winning.

Anyway I already paid, and so looking forward to all of you fighting it out like last season Smiley
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however, if he can score 15 goals in his debut season, we can say he had a fantastic season.

For a club like Manchester City that would eventually score lots of goals even when they put almost any striker upfront, 15 goals is a little bit on the low side. Something around 20 would be called as having a fantastic season, I mean he is one of the current top striker right now though so alot of expectation for him even in his debut season
Werner, who came to the premier league and underperformed expectations, had a better goal ratio in the Bundesliga than Halaand. I don't trust strikers from the Bundesliga. I'm not sure if Halaand would score above or up to 20 goals in his first season because G. Jesus, who spent six years at Manchester City, never scored more than 17 league goals per season; his highest total was 16.

He would be up against good defenders and not some random part-time farmers in Bundesliga.
You sure about that goal ratio? Because if you are thinking on goals scored in his last Bundesliga season, than sure. If you are talking about goal involment per actual games or minutes played I don't think that is true. Haaland missed a lot of games last season due to injury, otherwise his numbers would be way higher.

Haaland is much better finisher than Werner, Werner was missing heaps of chances in bundesliga as well but he had enough of them to still score often. Not the case in England.

That is another concern, he is injury prone due to his build and explosiveness and Pep could manage his minutes.
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however, if he can score 15 goals in his debut season, we can say he had a fantastic season.

For a club like Manchester City that would eventually score lots of goals even when they put almost any striker upfront, 15 goals is a little bit on the low side. Something around 20 would be called as having a fantastic season, I mean he is one of the current top striker right now though so alot of expectation for him even in his debut season
Werner, who came to the premier league and underperformed expectations, had a better goal ratio in the Bundesliga than Halaand. I don't trust strikers from the Bundesliga. I'm not sure if Halaand would score above or up to 20 goals in his first season because G. Jesus, who spent six years at Manchester City, never scored more than 17 league goals per season; his highest total was 16.

He would be up against good defenders and not some random part-time farmers in Bundesliga.
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however, if he can score 15 goals in his debut season, we can say he had a fantastic season.

For a club like Manchester City that would eventually score lots of goals even when they put almost any striker upfront, 15 goals is a little bit on the low side. Something around 20 would be called as having a fantastic season, I mean he is one of the current top striker right now though so alot of expectation for him even in his debut season



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He has demonstrated twice that he has no loyalty to any club. He left Real Madrid when they were in trouble and trying to rebuild the team. He then went to the reigning champions Juventus and left them when they were in trouble. Now, he is doing the same thing with Manchester United, leaving when they need him. He does not want to play in the Europa League and does not mind playing for rivals.

Can't argue with that, I guess what I meant to say was that he doesn't seem selfish on the field.  Grin
He is! His assist statistics speak for themselves; last season, he played 30 matches, scored 18 goals, and only had 3 assists. Every club where he has played, he consistently ranks last in assists. He is only knows how to score.

Lol. He still aims to catch Messi for the Ballon d'Or, so he won't be leaving Europe anytime soon.

What do you really think are the odds of Renaldo matching or passing Messi's number of Ballon d'Or awards?  I mean, he's never played for PSG!
Due to his age, the odds of matching Messi's Ballon d'Or awards are almost nonexistent. They have both past their prime and won't ever compete for the prize again.

He must not play in PSG mate. Angry


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best and worst signings you ask? I think Kalvin Phillips will be a flop. He's the most overrated english player right now imo, paying almost 50M for him is a daylight robbery... best sigining, Haaland. He'll prolly score like 30+ goals or something if he can stay injury free (big if).

The price is outrageous, but Kalvin Philips plays with a lot of confidence for England, so I don't think he would struggle at Manchester City. In addition, he is a back-up DM, so we won't be seeing him much. As for Halaand, there is no way he will score 30 goals in the EPL; however, if he can score 15 goals in his debut season, we can say he had a fantastic season.
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I believe that clubs these days too barely cares about players and are only in good terms when it beneficial to them, and when it gets to certain stage they keep offering them barely a year deal, so I really don't blame players while chasing their career, they should also ensure their getting the best deal financially and achieve the best feat they can too with what whatever club is able to provide with such opportunities.

Reminds of Dani Alves who has reportedly left Barcelona yet again, meanwhile he came back especially just help the club out during the crises and was more a back room player and leader, he's treatment wasn't ideal to be honest and the same fate befall Rakitic. Iniesta and Xavi were rather intellingent enough to know when it was the right time to leave. I really don't can't blame Ronaldo is a bailing on the club, it wasn't as they did they were doing him any favour by signing him back to begin with and he's getting to his later stages already.

There's nothing unique about that, every club or team in every major sport has conducted themselves in similar ways.  Here in the SF bay area people are still bitter about the way the 49ers handled Joe Montana's departure, and that was 33 years ago, lol.  The head coach at the time, Bill Walsh is famous for saying "it's better to move on from a player a year too soon than a year too late."  More recent example is the way Tom Brady and the Patriots parted ways.

It can be hard for the fans, who's loyalty often extends not only to the team but also the contributing players.  But as it is, professional sports are a business, and sentiment can often degrade revenue.
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He has demonstrated twice that he has no loyalty to any club. He left Real Madrid when they were in trouble and trying to rebuild the team. He then went to the reigning champions Juventus and left them when they were in trouble. Now, he is doing the same thing with Manchester United, leaving when they need him. He does not want to play in the Europa League and does not mind playing for rivals.

Can't argue with that, I guess what I meant to say was that he doesn't seem selfish on the field.  Grin


I believe that clubs these days too barely cares about players and are only in good terms when it beneficial to them, and when it gets to certain stage they keep offering them barely a year deal, so I really don't blame players while chasing their career, they should also ensure their getting the best deal financially and achieve the best feat they can too with what whatever club is able to provide with such opportunities.

Reminds of Dani Alves who has reportedly left Barcelona yet again, meanwhile he came back especially just help the club out during the crises and was more a back room player and leader, he's treatment wasn't ideal to be honest and the same fate befall Rakitic. Iniesta and Xavi were rather intellingent enough to know when it was the right time to leave. I really don't can't blame Ronaldo is a bailing on the club, it wasn't as they did they were doing him any favour by signing him back to begin with and he's getting to his later stages already.


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I was waiting for if I could trick DireWolfM14 about if I'm a U.S.A citizen or not but I have given up.  Cheesy

It wouldn't take much to trick me, but I have a couple of tricks of my own to figure out if I'm being lied to.  All I really have to do is ask a silly trivial question about American Football.  If you're an American sports fan, you're either into football or there's something seriously wrong in your head.  Either way you ain't getting my spot!  Cheesy


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best and worst signings you ask? I think Kalvin Phillips will be a flop. He's the most overrated english player right now imo, paying almost 50M for him is a daylight robbery... best sigining, Haaland. He'll prolly score like 30+ goals or something if he can stay injury free (big if).
I am not so sure about Haaland, Pep does not tolerate proper strikers no matter how much he cries for them. I feel like he has some image of a striker in his head that is very different from rest of the managers. Hell Ibrahimović and Aguero in their prime were not good enough for him. Haaland is good, but is he "Pep" good, I am not sure.

I can see this going two ways:
1. Haaland hits the ground flying and scores 40 goals in the season and Pep rewards that with game time
2. Haaland starts a bit slowly and Pep adds to frustration by managing his minutes. It gets into spiral of death where nobody ends up happy.

My bet would be case 2 probably, even if I hope for case 1.

I like Haaland, I noticed him a couple of years ago during one of the EUFA competitions.  I don't keep up with the Bundesliga so he hasn't been on my radar the last couple of years, but I expect he'll do great in the Premier League, but yeah, it might not be under Guardiola's management.

As for my favorite move, it still hasn't been finalized, but I like Raheem Sterling going to Chelsea.  Chelsea is so much closer to the championship than most teams in the top ten, certainly closer than they appeared last year.  Adding Sterling's speed would make a world of difference, in my opinion.
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See many missing names, guys what are you waiting for? Go and join, the more we have, the more money I win  Grin
will pay and join this week  Smiley 
best and worst signings you ask? I think Kalvin Phillips will be a flop. He's the most overrated english player right now imo, paying almost 50M for him is a daylight robbery... best sigining, Haaland. He'll prolly score like 30+ goals or something if he can stay injury free (big if).
I am not so sure about Haaland, Pep does not tolerate proper strikers no matter how much he cries for them. I feel like he has some image of a striker in his head that is very different from rest of the managers. Hell Ibrahimović and Aguero in their prime were not good enough for him. Haaland is good, but is he "Pep" good, I am not sure.

I can see this going two ways:
1. Haaland hits the ground flying and scores 40 goals in the season and Pep rewards that with game time
2. Haaland starts a bit slowly and Pep adds to frustration by managing his minutes. It gets into spiral of death where nobody ends up happy.

My bet would be case 2 probably, even if I hope for case 1.
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best and worst signings you ask? I think Kalvin Phillips will be a flop. He's the most overrated english player right now imo, paying almost 50M for him is a daylight robbery... best sigining, Haaland. He'll prolly score like 30+ goals or something if he can stay injury free (big if).
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Even though we seem to be not many people I'm predicting that we are going to reach 50+ people this year. It is going to be a really very tough pool.

i think that it will be more than 50 members as well, there is almost a month left, and people will join, cannot see why all members from last season would not join again

this will be a very interesting season, having cut in the middle due to WC, some teams could use that period for a better start in second part

although I think that City will won without issues, fight for CL could be more than interesting, as last season
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I just joined the pool invite already,,, as the 10th member Smiley

See many missing names, guys what are you waiting for? Go and join, the more we have, the more money I win  Grin


I was waiting for if I could trick DireWolfM14 about if I'm a U.S.A citizen or not but I have given up.  Cheesy I made my payment a short time ago and I have got my place in the pool. Even though we seem to be not many people I'm predicting that we are going to reach 50+ people this year. It is going to be a really very tough pool.
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I just joined the pool invite already,,, as the 10th member Smiley

See many missing names, guys what are you waiting for? Go and join, the more we have, the more money I win  Grin

BTW Spurs is in South Korea for preseason,,, and I saw Manchester United and Liverpool are in Thailand. Those two always seem to go together IIRC last 2 seasons also they were in same place. Is that not weird for enemies?

Who do you guys think will be the best and worst signing for 2022/2023? I hope Richarlison is in this list,,, but obviously not as the worst!!
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He has demonstrated twice that he has no loyalty to any club. He left Real Madrid when they were in trouble and trying to rebuild the team. He then went to the reigning champions Juventus and left them when they were in trouble. Now, he is doing the same thing with Manchester United, leaving when they need him. He does not want to play in the Europa League and does not mind playing for rivals.

Can't argue with that, I guess what I meant to say was that he doesn't seem selfish on the field.  Grin


Lol. He still aims to catch Messi for the Ballon d'Or, so he won't be leaving Europe anytime soon.

What do you really think are the odds of Renaldo matching or passing Messi's number of Ballon d'Or awards?  I mean, he's never played for PSG!
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I think that's a fair assessment.  They definitely appeared incohesive most of the year, and firing Ole didn't help, in my opinion.  Obviously Renaldo is a great player and could have made a huge contribution on with a confident and coherent squad, he was only slightly behind Salah and Son in terms of goals.  Contrast the cohesion of LFC or the Spurs, and it becomes abundantly clear this is a team sport.  I've never thought of Renaldo as a selfish player, so it would be hard for me to blame their lack of success last season on him.
He has demonstrated twice that he has no loyalty to any club. He left Real Madrid when they were in trouble and trying to rebuild the team. He then went to the reigning champions Juventus and left them when they were in trouble. Now, he is doing the same thing with Manchester United, leaving when they need him. He does not want to play in the Europa League and does not mind playing for rivals.

No way he's downgrading to a less competitive league  Grin

No, certainly not at his current level of play.  And even if he did cross the pond to the MLS, a bottom-of-the-table team that can't fill a stadium with only 18k seats won't be his destination, lol.
Lol. He still aims to catch Messi for the Ballon d'Or, so he won't be leaving Europe anytime soon.
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I'm not sure who is to blame, but the team was in shambles when he joined last season. I believe they were a much better team before he arrived; they qualified for the Champions League without Ronaldo but were unable to do so with him on the roster. I believe Ronaldo was the reason Ole was fired. He was unable to blend the team with Ronaldo, and at some point, every player started to lose confidence because they were relying solely on Ronaldo to work his magic rather than as a cohesive unit.

I think that's a fair assessment.  They definitely appeared incohesive most of the year, and firing Ole didn't help, in my opinion.  Obviously Renaldo is a great player and could have made a huge contribution on with a confident and coherent squad, he was only slightly behind Salah and Son in terms of goals.  Contrast the cohesion of LFC or the Spurs, and it becomes abundantly clear this is a team sport.  I've never thought of Renaldo as a selfish player, so it would be hard for me to blame their lack of success last season on him.


No way he's downgrading to a less competitive league  Grin

No, certainly not at his current level of play.  And even if he did cross the pond to the MLS, a bottom-of-the-table team that can't fill a stadium with only 18k seats won't be his destination, lol.
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Looking at the Manchester United situation, I think they'll be even worse than last year. They at least had Ronaldo banging in a ton of goals, but if he is to leave or worse yet refuse to train, and gets dropped I think they could be in some real trouble, because quite frankly he bailed them out last year multiple times. We also play them within the first couple of rounds, so we could maybe compound that pressure on them by beating them convincingly.

Cristiano bailed them out, and they let him down in my opinion.  The way MU finished the 2020/2021 season, and adding Renaldo before last season every one really expected more from them.  I was pretty sure they would take the league, or at least give City and LFC a more trouble than they did.  It was quite a disappointing season, and I'm sure Cristiano feels betrayed.  I don't know what they payed him, but at the time it was rumored that it had to be less than what City could offer.  What's crazy is he could probably still play at an above-average level.
I'm not sure who is to blame, but the team was in shambles when he joined last season. I believe they were a much better team before he arrived; they qualified for the Champions League without Ronaldo but were unable to do so with him on the roster. I believe Ronaldo was the reason Ole was fired. He was unable to blend the team with Ronaldo, and at some point, every player started to lose confidence because they were relying solely on Ronaldo to work his magic rather than as a cohesive unit.

Manchester City agreed to pay him £400k per week but wanted him free, and Juventus insisted they must pay a €25m release clause.

Anyway, if he doesn't stay in Manchester next year I hope he signs with the San Jose Earthquakes!  Grin
No way he's downgrading to a less competitive league  Grin

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Would I suggest however that we update the thread title and OP to include instructions because I had to look for it,,, or maybe I could not see it easily being a mess in my head.

For us repeat players that is easy but newbies would never know I think if they visit this place. I quote again for anyone who missed.

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The Premier League starts on the 6th of August so we've got a month to get people signed up and paid. Please spread the word so we can hopefully get 50+ users and add to the pot.
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 I'm sure he's conflicted with wages though as he might have to take a cut so there's that to weigh up. Not seeing him in the CL is kinda tragic. Maybe he should just go back to Real.

did not follow all the news, but I heard that options are Chelsea and Bayern, and Ronaldo is closer to Bavarians, but Chelsea is offering more money to him
and as it is, Ronaldo is ready to take wage cut, to join Bayern

not sure is that all true, or just rumors, but there was some interview, with him stating that he will certainly retire with one season in Sporting, but it is still early for retirement, and Bayern could be a CL trophy top contender with him in line-up

If he goes to Bayern I am sure he will score a huge number of goals there as compared to if he goes to Chelsea where obviously he could not score that number of goals because of the quality and difference between the leagues.I have heard many Juventus fans writing him in Instagram asking him to get back to Juventus,but I have not seen any real offer from the Juventus club so far,nothing is off the table obviously.Personally I would like him to go to Bayern as there he would add so many goals to his name which would make him an even better player,in statistics which is important when one person is near the end of his career.
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 I'm sure he's conflicted with wages though as he might have to take a cut so there's that to weigh up. Not seeing him in the CL is kinda tragic. Maybe he should just go back to Real.

did not follow all the news, but I heard that options are Chelsea and Bayern, and Ronaldo is closer to Bavarians, but Chelsea is offering more money to him
and as it is, Ronaldo is ready to take wage cut, to join Bayern

not sure is that all true, or just rumors, but there was some interview, with him stating that he will certainly retire with one season in Sporting, but it is still early for retirement, and Bayern could be a CL trophy top contender with him in line-up
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